Redrosalie1

He might as well wear butt chaps too! Every time I picture him with that beard, I picture him in that episode of Eric' Christmas ghost. *shudders*

I have a S8 question and I'm sorry to ask this dumb question. Did Hyde ever mention or allude to he loves the stripper? Or has Jackie been the only girl he's spoken that word to?

Kendra Luehr

Since she was 14 at the time, I can't say I'm too surprised. I don't remember much from my younger teen years either, and maybe for good reason, lol. Yep, I finished rewatching that ep not too long ago! Maybe she remembers it that way because Jackie and Kelso had that solo dance at the end. Either way, I always find it funny how hardcore fans quiz actors on the nit-pickiest things, and then they get this "help me" look on their face cuz they don't know how to respond. I remember for a Dark Shadows con (1960s gothic soap opera), someone pointed out to the one actress how in episode *insert number here* she was wearing a dress in one timeline, but it was improbable because of what happened in the present, and she had this deer in the headlights look, cuz wow. That show was on in the 60's/early 70's, for starters, and two, they had over 1,000 episodes and it filmed live 5 days a week. There's no way they're going to remember everything, but it's always fun to quiz them.

I wondered! I mean, Netflix has some great shows, and because of DM and AK I WANTED to give it a chance, but I'm also lazy and my connection is awful, so I've been putting it off. I was thinking of jumping in and just watching WM's eps to see if it improved at all.

It's funny, because I'd honestly forgotten about the beard, so it clearly didn't affect me one way or the other. Like, I remember him shaving it for Jackie, but I can't really picture it outside of that episode. Poor Mila, though!

MistyMountainHop

Yeah, that's where I took the reference from. "It's a Wonderful Life" (4x01).

Short answer: Hyde doesn't say, "I love you," to Sam.

Longer answer: The writers try to put Hyde's love for Sam in the subtext.

The last episode with Sam in it steals from "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You" (5x14):

SAM: Hyde, for what it’s worth, I don’t love Larry [my legal husband]. I love you.
HYDE: Oh, great. You love me more then you love your grandfather.

That scene is similar to J/H's fight about her feelings for Kelso vs. her feelings for Hyde.

Hyde and Sam's last scene together:

SAM: Hyde, I'm really sorry how things worked out.
HYDE: Yeah, me too. But I like to think if our paths ever cross again that I'll be able to give you twenty dollars, and you'll be able to dance for me, and it wouldn't be awkward.

The episode also steals from "On with the Show" (7x16) and "Take It or Leave It" (7x23) in the following scene between Hyde and Donna:

DONNA: Well, all I know is, she makes you happy. And the only other time I've seen such a big smile on your face was when you got Fez and Kelso to smash their heads together when you threw a peanut on the floor.
HYDE: It's a tough decision, man. I'm gonna let the [basket] ball decide. If I make the shot, I stay with Sam. If I miss, I say goodbye.

In this same episode, Jackie and Fez's romantic story arc starts. Not a coincidence. The showrunners didn't want fans to think now that Hyde is single again, he and Jackie can repair their relationship. They had to show she was no longer available (because she'd developed romantic feelings for Fez).

S8 really is like a badly written fanfic that puts Hyde with an OC. The writers couldn't even come up with anything original for Hyde and Sam. They had to steal from his story arcs with Jackie.

Kendra Luehr

msstock87

Love that tumblr!

Ughh season 8, just needs to die.

MistyMountainHop

Thanks for the link, Kendra!

Colleen, I know. It's terrible.

To cleanse the palate:

Redrosalie1

Thank you MistyMountainHop for the information! Oh goodness, that is pretty lame that the writers couldn't come up with lines. Ugh, it's sad really.

msstock87

Thanks for the cleansing Lisa.

MistyMountainHop

You're welcome! It really is lame. Not only does S8 make the characters behave against their own natures, but it steals from earlier in-character episodes in order to do it.

You're welcome!

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So what kind of gifts do you think Jackie and Hyde exchanged on Christmas?

officialgamora

Ideally? Wedding vows

But really i think Hyde would've gotten her something really sentimental (kind of like he did with the shirt or even Donna's gift in the first season). As for Jackie well I got nothing...

Redrosalie1

I think Hyde would probably give Jackie his evil eye ring that's usually on his pinkie as a promise ring because it's his favorite and he wanted her to have it. Jackie would get Hyde the stereo that he didn't end up getting at the car show because of the whole funnel cake fiasco with Kitty and Red lol!

Grazzhopper

While I absolutely support them exchanging wedding vows, I feel like it'd be a little bit too cheesy for these two. Might just be me, though.

MistyMountainHop

Clever play on words! . If only.

Yeah, Hyde really does put thought into his gifts. He doesn't have a lot of money (at least before S7), but his gifts from the heart are worth so much more.

I like the trope of Hyde giving Jackie his eyeball ring. I, among others, have written that into a fanfic.

Ooh, nice! Yeah, he didn't end up getting anything at the car show, did he? No new tires, either.

msstock87

Wedding vows would be nice. I can see Hyde giving Jackie something important to him like his eyeball ring or maybe an album that means a lot to him.

MistyMountainHop

Or how about Hyde agreeing to do something with Jackie she's always wanted him to do, like those ballroom dancing lessons. That could be considered a gift; although Hyde would be miserable during those lessons, so maybe not so much of a gift, after all.