Fan Forum
Remember Me?
Register

  Request a Forum   |     View New Forums

 
 
Forum Affiliates Tags Thread Tools
Old 12-18-2014, 06:50 AM
  #76
Fan Forum Hero

 
MistyMountainHop's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 58,246
FuriosityShell, it really is a shame Kelso's character got screwed over so many times. In "Prom Night," Kelso's grateful to have gotten Jackie back, but the next episode he makes out with Laurie. Not good. Then in S3, he apologizes to Jackie with a true understanding of his behavior and takes responsibility for it. Then in S4, he takes it all back by saying some horrifically misogynistic BS. His character gets worse and worse from there. Season 5 is just awful for him.

If we want to continue the Kelso conversation, I suggest we take it to either http://www.fanforum.com/f27/ashton-k...blah-62973492/ or http://www.fanforum.com/f27/ice-brea...ckie-63025085/

Colleen, It's a fun episode.

Nancy, Hyde being hot enhances almost everything -- except S8. Even his pre-pornstache physical hotness couldn't make up for his OOC-personality-ugliness.
__________________
You Keep Using that Word.
I Do Not Think It Means
What You Think It Means.

Last edited by MistyMountainHop; 12-22-2014 at 05:33 AM
MistyMountainHop is offline  
Old 12-21-2014, 11:44 PM
  #77
Fan Forum Star

 
msstock87's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 248,976
I need to watch all the Christmas episodes now.
msstock87 is offline  
Old 12-22-2014, 05:34 AM
  #78
Fan Forum Hero

 
MistyMountainHop's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 58,246
Quote:
Originally Posted by msstock87 (View Post)
I need to watch all the Christmas episodes now.
Except for "Winter". Hyde's OOC-ness is just awful.

---

Interesting (and funny) moment from "Beast of Burden" (704):

Hyde: I thought I was cool flipping burgers. Then I met the night-shift guy who's been doing it for thirty years. He's got no eyebrows and lives in his own car. I don't want to be that guy.

Jackie: And you won't be if you follow the plan I gave you, okay? We get a job as a local weather team, then go national as morning talk show hosts, and then star in our own Ice Capades!

Hyde: Jackie, I've told you: I don't capade.

---

Man, Hyde had no ambition whatsoever. But that's because the best he thought he could hope for was staying out of prison. He really needed Jackie.
__________________
You Keep Using that Word.
I Do Not Think It Means
What You Think It Means.

Last edited by MistyMountainHop; 12-22-2014 at 06:14 AM
MistyMountainHop is offline  
Old 12-23-2014, 12:09 AM
  #79
Fan Forum Star

 
msstock87's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 248,976
Winter doesn't count for me. When I get to it, I just skip over it and pretend it didn't happen. I cover my ears and eyes and act like a little kid. "Lalalala, I can't hear or see you horrible episode".

Sorry, I'm a bit sleepy and excited because after work later today I have a 5 day weekend for the holiday.
msstock87 is offline  
Old 12-23-2014, 12:34 AM
  #80
Passionate Fan

 
hanselnext's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,561
Quote:
Originally Posted by MistyMountainHop (View Post)

Man, Hyde had no ambition whatsoever. But that's because the best he thought he could hope for was staying out of prison. He really needed Jackie.
He really didn't. It's a good thing he had Jackie and the Formans pushing him to do better.
hanselnext is offline  
Old 12-23-2014, 07:33 AM
  #81
Fan Forum Hero

 
MistyMountainHop's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 58,246
Quote:
Originally Posted by msstock87 (View Post)
Winter doesn't count for me. When I get to it, I just skip over it and pretend it didn't happen. I cover my ears and eyes and act like a little kid. "Lalalala, I can't hear or see you horrible episode".
Yeah, it's the same for me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by msstock87 (View Post)
Sorry, I'm a bit sleepy and excited because after work later today I have a 5 day weekend for the holiday.
No apologies necessary. for 5-day weekend!

Quote:
Originally Posted by hanselnext (View Post)
He really didn't. It's a good thing he had Jackie and the Formans pushing him to do better.
Makes me wonder if he wasn't a tad depressed. He's passionate about music, though, and about certain causes. I think he needed to know the possibility for happiness existed for him. That every path for him didn't lead to some horrible end.


***

Hyde's so annoyed by Kelso's attempt to lure Jackie away with a higher SAT score. He should've visibly relaxed when Jackie said, "Yes, but Steven has my heart." Maybe that's why he said he saw a future for them.
__________________
You Keep Using that Word.
I Do Not Think It Means
What You Think It Means.

Last edited by MistyMountainHop; 02-11-2019 at 04:12 PM
MistyMountainHop is offline  
Old 12-23-2014, 11:59 PM
  #82
Fan Forum Star

 
msstock87's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 248,976
I think he just needed somebody to show him he could be more than his parents. Thank goodness for Jackie and the Formans!
msstock87 is offline  
Old 12-24-2014, 07:32 AM
  #83
Fan Forum Hero

 
MistyMountainHop's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 58,246
I wonder what direction Hyde would've gone in had W.B. not been in the picture. He probably would've worked with Red at Forman & Son. Maybe he'd end up opening a garage that customizes cars and motorcycles.
__________________
You Keep Using that Word.
I Do Not Think It Means
What You Think It Means.
MistyMountainHop is offline  
Old 12-24-2014, 02:19 PM
  #84
Fan Forum Star

 
msstock87's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 248,976
I could see that happening for sure.
msstock87 is offline  
Old 12-25-2014, 06:59 AM
  #85
Fan Forum Hero

 
MistyMountainHop's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 58,246
I don't think Jackie would be grossed out once Hyde brings home the $$ he makes from that business. Plus, she'd love the car(s) he'd customize for her.
__________________
You Keep Using that Word.
I Do Not Think It Means
What You Think It Means.
MistyMountainHop is offline  
Old 12-26-2014, 01:55 AM
  #86
Passionate Fan

 
hanselnext's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,561
Quote:
Originally Posted by MistyMountainHop (View Post)
I don't think Jackie would be grossed out once Hyde brings home the $$ he makes from that business. Plus, she'd love the car(s) he'd customize for her.
She would be supportive. In the end she just wants him to be happy.
hanselnext is offline  
Old 12-26-2014, 07:30 AM
  #87
Fan Forum Hero

 
MistyMountainHop's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 58,246
Quote:
Originally Posted by hanselnext (View Post)
She would be supportive. In the end she just wants him to be happy.
One of her best moments in season 7 when she tells Hyde that. I've decided just now that her OOC line to him afterward, "Oh, Steven, you’ve had the hardest life. You know, I should probably be more generous and considerate with you ... but I am what I am," is her way of deflecting from the truth. That she's picked up some of Hyde's self-protection mechanisms, and she doesn't want to appear too sweet in front of Red. And Hyde understands that this is what she's doing, which is why he smiles at her and takes her hand.

Consistent characterization head!canon ftw! \o/
__________________
You Keep Using that Word.
I Do Not Think It Means
What You Think It Means.

Last edited by MistyMountainHop; 02-11-2019 at 04:12 PM
MistyMountainHop is offline  
Old 12-28-2014, 01:58 AM
  #88
Fan Forum Star

 
msstock87's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 248,976
That is how I figure it to be too Lisa. Besides that line, it really was a cute moment between them.
msstock87 is offline  
Old 12-28-2014, 07:09 AM
  #89
Fan Forum Hero

 
MistyMountainHop's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 58,246
Quote:
Originally Posted by msstock87 (View Post)
That is how I figure it to be too Lisa. Besides that line, it really was a cute moment between them.
Giving the line that subtext is the only way it makes character-sense. Otherwise, it contradicts everything we've seen of Jackie -- with Hyde and with Kelso.
__________________
You Keep Using that Word.
I Do Not Think It Means
What You Think It Means.
MistyMountainHop is offline  
Old 12-28-2014, 09:13 PM
  #90
Fan Forum Star

 
msstock87's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 248,976
At this point we are used to making some of our own head cannon.
msstock87 is offline  
Fan Forum  |  Contact Us  |  Fan Forum on Twitter  |  Fan Forum on Facebook  |  Archive  |  Top

Powered by vBulletin, Copyright © 2000-2024.

Copyright © 1998-2024, Fan Forum.