Sibs (Laurie & Eric) #2: Because Two Lauries Would've Sent Eric Running for the Hills
 

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From the last thread:

I could totally see Eric trying to push his running-away thing as much as he could, like discussing it with Kelso and Hyde about how often he should do it -- how far he should go each time to up the ante, etc. If he told Donna, though, I think she might tattle on him. Either that, or she'd try that with her parents and be sorely disappointed they didn't react the way Kitty does to Eric.

Laurie probably couldn't pull off running away regularly. Red would eventually put his foot down and tell her to cut it out: "If you want a new toy, sweetheart, all you gotta do is tell me. You don't have to run away."

Eric: I tell you when I want new toys all the time, and you tell me to do chores then give me a nickel!

Red: Well, maybe you should run away then.

Eric: Maybe I should!

Red: See ya!

I can see that happening. Red would especially cave into Laurie when she was younger.

Thanks for the new thread! :)

Thanks for the new thread! :)

That would be an interesting conversation; Red telling Laurie she doesn't need to run away and then telling Eric to run away. Red definitely showed more tough love toward Eric than he did Laurie.

You're both welcome! :D

Red definitely had different expectations for his kids -- and I think he didn't have enough for Laurie. Maybe if he expected more from her, she would've tried harder in school instead of coasting on her sexual relationships.

I think Red should have had more tough love on Laurie too. She could have gotten farther maybe in school or found her career goals earlier.

:lol: Poor Eric.

Red was tougher on Eric but he was a great role model for Laurie. I can't understand why she was so promiscuous. Maybe if Red had been a little tougher on her and put an emphasis on getting a career and school then maybe she wouldn't of been sleeping around so much. There was that episode where Red told her that he wasn't worried about her be she would find a man to take care of her. I didn't really like that. I wish he would've of told her to focus on getting a career and encourage her to rely on herself instead of another man to take care of her. But that could've just been the mindset of people in the 70s.

Exactly, exactly, exactly. :nod:

I was thinking about Laurie's original, S1 characterization. She became 1) less complex as the show went on 2) a cliche and 3) someone whose behavior doesn't really fit the way she was raised. But her original characterization fit being raised by Kitty and Red far more. I'll explain (der :D).

Hyde initially characterized Laurie as "the earth-mother whore type". "Earth mother" is a 1970s feminist ideal -- that some feminists embraced and others reviled -- of a woman as a maternal, nurturing goddess. Laurie seemed quite into new-age-y concepts in S1 (as in "Grandma's Dead") and was a dedicated college student. She treated Eric like an annoying little brother and Kelso would only score with her in "[his] dreams," but maybe she was more loving toward her friends.

She was also probably more into the "free love" of the '60s sexual revolution than getting off on being a devious homewrecker, which is why Hyde said in "Eric's Birthday" that her being the earth-mother whore type "work[ed] for him". But once her character shifted into being malicious and more loose than Pam Macy, Hyde's's reaction to her was disgust, not attraction.

If Laurie hadn't been transformed into a full-on antagonist, Pam Macy might've become a more prominent character, becoming Kelso's full-time other woman.

I always thought that about Laurie's characterization in season one as well. She seemed to become devious as the series went on.

After season 1, T7S phased out exploring the political aspect of the '70s, and I think the change in Laurie's character went along with that. I'm curious how the show would've been different had they kept in more of the '70s stuff.

She did seem more like a daughter Kitty and Red raised in S1 than in later seasons. :nod:

I would have liked to see how Laurie turned out if she had been more like season one Laurie too. Some storylines may have not happened.

Eric might've actually gone to Laurie for advice about Donna had Laurie been S1!Laurie. Could've been interesting.

I would have liked to see that actually.

Me, too. :nod: I like devious!Laurie, but I would've liked to see how things on the show might've been different had S1Laurie's characterization stayed intact. How would her relationship with Hyde have developed? So many questions. :sigh: