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Old 06-21-2016, 07:29 AM
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That '70s Show DVD and Blu-Ray Discussion: 2016 (and Beyond)

Hi, everyone! This is the place to discuss the That '70s Show DVDs and Blu-rays. Write reviews of the content and extras. Post links to other people's reviews (as long as they're not from non- message boards).

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I reached S6 this weekend in my T7S rewatch on my Blu-ray set. And I noticed that episode 6.01, "The Kids Are Alright" was oddly sped-up on my set. I didn't really notice it until the theme song which was faster than it was usually was and kind of higher-pitched. It's extremely weird. Luckily, I still have my S6 DVD, so I put that in and saw that the runtime for "The Kids Are Alright" was 21:56 and on the S6 Blu-ray disc the episode clocked in at 21:05. There's no content missing, but it's sped up. The characters don't sound like chipmunks or anything like that, and it's not too noticeable (except for the opening credits) but it does run much faster. It may be just my set that has this issue, but I just thought I should give the head-ups in case anyone is browsing this thread or considering getting the Blu-ray set. I will go back and edit my original review of the set and add this.
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Old 06-22-2016, 04:37 PM
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Furiosity, that's an interesting bit of info. Thanks! Weird how that happened -- and how "That '70s Musical" isn't in widescreen.

I hate when TV stations broadcast the show speeded up to give more time to advertisements. The actors' voices sound ridiculous.
Oh yeah, I hate that too. I remember when That '70s Show aired on Nick at Nite, they extended the timeslot. So for example, if T7S came on at 10, instead of a regular half-hour 10:00-10:30 time slot, it'd be from 10:00-10:40 for more advertisements. You'd think with more time, they'd at least air the uncut versions of the episodes. But nope. They still aired the syndicated episodes with footage missing even with more time.

T7S is owned by Fox, and they're very stingy with releasing their TV shows on Blu-ray, especially non-current shows. It took them forever to release The X-Files on Blu even though there was a huge demand, and I'm still waiting for a release of another one of my favorite shows, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. So I'm grateful that Mill Creek were able to get the rights to T7S to put it out on Blu-ray. But I wish they could have put more effort into it. The menu typos, the SD musical episode and the sped-up 6.01 take away from it. But I can't complain since it was so cheap. My brother-in-law said he got it for only $60 on Amazon, which is rather cheap for a show as long-running and popular as T7S on Blu-ray.
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:28 AM
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Oh yeah, I hate that too. I remember when That '70s Show aired on Nick at Nite, they extended the timeslot. So for example, if T7S came on at 10, instead of a regular half-hour 10:00-10:30 time slot, it'd be from 10:00-10:40 for more advertisements. You'd think with more time, they'd at least air the uncut versions of the episodes. But nope. They still aired the syndicated episodes with footage missing even with more time.
Whoa. Extending the time just for ten minutes of commercials?

RE: The T7S Blu-rays. What happened to quality control?

I would've loved some deleted scenes (especially J/H ones I know were filmed).
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:43 PM
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I wish they would release seasons 3-7 on blu ray individually.
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:47 PM
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I would've loved some deleted scenes (especially J/H ones I know were filmed).
Really? I didn't think a show like T7S would have much in the way of (shot) deleted scenes. I know that awful British version of T7S had extended bits that were most likely from the same script, and I know there were lines cut from episodes, but actual scenes? Could you share some, or what episodes they were from?
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Really? I didn't think a show like T7S would have much in the way of (shot) deleted scenes. I know that awful British version of T7S had extended bits that were most likely from the same script, and I know there were lines cut from episodes, but actual scenes? Could you share some, or what episodes they were from?
Sure.

From "Kelso's Serenade" =

Jackie: But I thought we said you were alone, and I'm alone--

Hyde: Look, Jackie, you're rebounding. Deep down, you know you don't really want to be with me. (THEN, COAXING) C'mon, it's me. You hate me.

Jackie: That might not be true.

Hyde: Look, I'm trying to help you here, so just listen to me, okay? Jackie, you have to realize you can do better than Kelso.

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^^^ In the episode, you can tell where the cut is. I always noticed it and wondered what the lines were, and then I saw the script for the ep, and voila!

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In "Celebration Day," Jackie says, "I’m kind of cold. I'll reward whoever gets more firewood by ... letting them feed me marshmallows."

We never see the follow-up to that, but they shot a scene where Hyde's obviously won, and he feeds Jackie marshmallows.

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In "I'm Free," Jackie and Hyde make-out in the driveway after Jackie's line, "Oh, Steven, you're sensitive to this because your father ditched you, too. That is so foxy."

^^^ The make-out was DM and MK's idea. Too bad it was cut from the ep.

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In "Oh, Baby (We Got a Good Thing Goin')," there's a scene where we learn Hyde made sure Jackie's funnel cake got extra sugar because he knows she likes that.
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:23 PM
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Thanks for those scenes Lisa.
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Old 06-26-2016, 07:50 AM
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You're welcome, Colleen!
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Yeah thanks, Lisa. There are probably some more deleted tidbits for many other episodes. So yeah, you're right, I wish we could have gotten to see them. I once heard a rumor that "Celebration Day" actually aired as a much longer episode in its original airing, but for some reason, it's just a regular-length episode on DVD, Blu-ray and Netflix. Do you know if that's true?
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Yeah thanks, Lisa.
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I once heard a rumor that "Celebration Day" actually aired as a much longer episode in its original airing, but for some reason, it's just a regular-length episode on DVD, Blu-ray and Netflix. Do you know if that's true?
It's not a rumor. It's true. During my read-through of this board (from the very first post archived), I discovered posts where fans talked about the differences. Some people had taped the episode when it originally aired, and they compared what was on that tape to what ended up on the DVD.
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This is all interesting. It's making me want to see all this additional footage.
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Yeah. It would've been great had the DVDs included it.
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Hi I am fairly new to the board so I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned before but I can't get used to the different music from when it originally aired. Especially season 1 and 2 had the most amazing music choices from the 70s and they are changed to generic sound-a-like substitute. I know there is copyright and budget issues and all, but i think it really affects the overall quality.
Just wanted to state my opinion and get it out of my system.
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I understand.

I'm actually more used to the music used in the syndicated eps/versions on the DVDs. I recently watched this:



The episode clips it shows has the original music, and it was jarring to me. Further, when I first started posting here, I saw that people associated Elton John's "Tiny Dancer" with Jackie and Hyde, and I had no idea why. Then they told me that it's the song that originally played during Jackie and Hyde's Valentine's dance and in "Street Fighting Man" when Jackie cries against the pillar outside the football arena (and Hyde finds her).

This site That '70s Show Music Soundtrack - TuneFind has an incomplete listing of songs played during T7S eps' original airing.
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Thank you so much for sharing that, Lisa! While deleted scenes would have been great, I would have also liked to see cast commentaries. They got along so well, and had real opinions on their characters (as we see DM and MK improvising Jackie/Hyde scenes) that I would have loved to hear them. I tried to listen to a couple of David Trainer's commentaries and they were really slow. He falls into the trap of a lot of commentators of having awkward pauses and just describing what's happening on-screen instead of saying something really insightful. I also loved seeing Topher talk about the show in that clip. It makes me happy to see that because he seems to have this unfair reputation among some fans as not loving his co-stars or time on the show because of that stupid E! True Hollywood special. I loved the Top 10 Episode countdown.

When I first started watching the series, I only ever really saw most of S1-S4. I don't why, but I rarely saw episodes from later seasons, and I'll never forget the experience of flipping the channel and catching a S7 episode and wondering why the hell Donna was blonde and why Jackie was sitting on Hyde's lap, and then learning T7S went on a LOT longer than I had thought. So watching that 100th episode special reminded me of how much I LOVED the Eric/Donna relationship when I first started watching before they were overshadowed by my later love for Jackie/Hyde. The reason I loved Eric/Donna so much and the reason Eric is my favorite character (well, along with Jackie) is because I was, and still am, Eric. I'm a smart-mouth, skinny white kid with tiny wrists. My best friend was similar to Hyde in the sense that his home life wasn't stellar, and he was a honorary member of my family (and later an official one when he married my sister). So I always identified with Eric and the Eric/Donna relationship was a wonderful wish fulfillment thing for me. I WISH I had had a girl-next-door love interest who looked like Laura Prepon when I was 17, but alas, I didn't.

So I'm extremely happy "The Promise Ring" was on that list because it's one of my favorite episodes of the show, and my #1 favorite episode for Donna's character. While I'm not one of those fans who hate Donna for getting mad at Eric, I do understand why fans would be frustrated because the writers didn't really do much with her in S3 besides have her get mad at him nearly every episode. "Too Old To Trick or Treat, Too Young to Die", "Hyde's Father", "Baby Fever", "Eric's Panties", "Jackie Bags Hyde", "Ice Shack", "Donna's Panties", "Radio Daze", "Who Wants It More", "Romantic Weekend" and "Backstage Pass" all feature Donna getting really upset with Eric. Her reasons for getting mad at Eric range from unjustified ("Backstage Pass") , totally justified ("Donna's Panties") to hilarious ("Eric's Panties"), but it is a big portion of the season. So while I don't agree with fans who hate Donna with a passion and I think they exaggerate things, I do understand why fans would be tired of her. That's why I'm glad for the break-up at the end of S3 because it seemed like the writers had been in sort of a holding pattern with the Eric/Donna relationship and with Donna herself. I'm grateful for "The Promise Ring" because I feel like it's one of the few episodes that really explores things from Donna's point of view. I love the parallel with the Bob/Midge relationship as Donna clearly loves and wants to be with Eric but at the same time, she's only 17. She doesn't know what'll happen and she's still trying to figure out what she wants for HERSELF, and he doesn't know how to handle it. So even though their break-up at the end of the episode breaks my heart, I still love the scene because it is completely true to the characters and I don't blame Donna one bit. It's interesting that Hyde and Jackie face essentially the same problem in S7 but the writers completely drop the ball with it. So I'm glad "The Promise Ring" made it on there because it never struck me as an episode that was extremely beloved even though I really love it. I don't know why, maybe it's Jackie/Hyde being a more interesting couple or just the quality of the writing in later seasons, but the Eric/Donna relationship isn't as interesting or dear to me in S5-S7 as it was in S1-S4. I mean, I still enjoy them together in S5-S7, it just doesn't touch me or pull at my heartstrings like it did in S1-S4. Though I do love the ending scene with them in "The Seeker" (despite hating Eric standing her at the wedding) and another reason I am able to tolerate the S8 finale is because I also love the reunion scene between them due to the way Topher and Laura play it.

Oh wow, that was really rambly. I didn't intend to go on that long. But there were some good picks for that list. But... "A New Hope"! Really? "A New Hope" is a least favorite episode of mine because of the ending scene where Eric just totally disrespects Donna by saying that the only reason he's with her is to get into her pants. It's an incredibly disgusting scene and reminiscent of S8's character assassinations. I don't know Donna didn't just break up with him on the spot, but the writers did a good thing by totally ignoring it because I don't know if Eric could have came back from saying that.
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