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Old 03-19-2019, 08:42 AM
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Beverly Hills 90210 –– Dylan and Kelly : Can we trace the current onslaught of infidelity plotlines back to the 90s when we were all hooked on nighttime soaps like Melrose Place and Beverly Hills 90210? This Season 3 plotline, where Dylan and Kelly hook up over beach bonfires and Casablanca while Brenda (his girlfriend, her best friend) is away in Paris, is the show at the height of its powers. The love triangles eventually get much more complicated (Kelly, you’ll recall, decides at one point to choose herself), but at this point the audience was clearly divided into Team Brenda and Team Kelly. I guess we know which team Dylan decided to play for.
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Haha, yes we do.
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Geeez. What were we watching?
I only just realized how funny that lasagna line may have sounded with no context I know you will remember it Mel but for the sake of anyone else who may not remember (this is from memory so may be slightly off)
Kelly's kitchen
Jake: "that smells great"
Kelly: "yeah...I love lasagna"
Jake: "I wasn't talking about the lasagna..."*smile* and cue sax

so it's still funny but also so hot! haha I initially thought Jake seemed like an older version of Dylan...and then he really did have something to do with Dylan and Kelly together... Kelly heartbroken, Dylan said he warned Jake not to hurt her etc

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Perfectly paused out commercials, huh? I gave up taking the risk and figured the ads were a part of history too. I'll remember every old cell phone and cereal commercial from the mid-90s on some level.
some of the old commercials are great! It was very RISKY this pausing business! I actually remember forgetting to re-pause on not 90210 but other shows and being so furious at myself (I started my serious recording vhs business at about 8 years old too ) so then i made sure I would really really not forget, saying "unpause, unpause!" over and over in my head through the commercial break I figured out there were exactly 6 commercials and the last one would always be a promo for a tv show coming up...plus you had to allow about a 2 second delay from when you hit record again so you really had to be on your game!


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The way I figure it, we got sound, the official discs have picture. … Most of the picture.
There was actually a Roswell fan who combined the extra clear picture from the DVD release with the audio from the tv recordings to capture original music.....really impressive!! and not even to make any money etc but for the pure love of the show! The original versions I have, do have pretty decent picture and I'm not one to be overly fussed about "high sharpness" anyway etc. But I just really want them re-released so they are easily accessible for everyday fans. It's just people are missing out on so much when watching it the altered way.

I've been trying more podcasts again (to find some hidden D/K behind the storylines info)....and it's just getting depressing some are just very crass, the whole tone of just "mocking" practically everything... It's like the extra features on the dvd's, the season 3 one where those 2 guys talk, I found that actually funny and yes they do mock but it's only like I don't know 10 min? so short, sweet and kind of fun (especially the paper hat thing ) But a podcast is literally over an hour of this mocking....and insensitivity to a lot of the characters "ugh so and so is upset for no reason...." if you actually pay attention there is a reason etc.....Of course there are things I find funny in the show, Steve's bad advice etc, some of David's songs etc (I'm talking about seasons 1 - 4 specifically) but there is such interesting depth to be discussed too! And I really worry that the serious guests they have on podcast who actually worked on the show will think this is what all fans are like...they love the show but they think of it as just a whole big joke to be laughed at.... Which I do understand that lots of people do that but not all of us...
I actually found a different podcast and thought that may be better and it was even worse I couldn't get through 5 min.
I know there are so many fan made things of lots of movies/tv shows and they have this mocking vibe etc and I always try to remember well if they did put this much time and effort into it then they must really love it etc so it comes from a good place but ugh some of it just makes me nauseous Can someone please do an intelligent based 90210 podcast with a few jokes of course but actually try to cover some depth?

until then... I'm gonna stick to surfing...I mean reading about it

I need some more D/K love to make me feel better

Oh I keep forgetting I came across a real script with a little D/K tidbit between the lines you may all like....I'll try to scan it this week.
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:27 AM
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Thanks for this forum guys.

Luke Perry’s death upset me more than I expected. I’ve been catching up on your forum since then and it’s been a balm of flashbacks, info and great memories!

I’ll start by placing myself firmly in the Dylan & Kelly camp.

Not only did they look physically good together (I love the contrast in their colouring and the height difference) but their chemistry was ………woah!

I 100% believe that Luke and Jennie did date on/off during pretty much all of 90210 and it shouldn’t be a surprise no story ever came out about them.

Shannen Doherty alluded a few years back, to Luke & Kelly’s very special on-set connection when she appeared on Bravo’s Watch What Happens Live. (Though the video’s now unavailable)
Considering Luke pushed for the Dyaln & Kelly storyline, it’s likely the cast was aware of how they felt about each other.

In love scenes of Kelly and Dylan. it’s clear to me that Luke’s besotted with Jennie.
He practically undresses her with his eyes frame for frame.
As you guys correctly stated he ‘breathes her in’

When Luke appeared on WWHL he was offered the Shag, Marry, or Kill option with Tori, Jennie & Shannen and of course he chose to shag Jennie!! What a surprise. NOT!

Jason Priestley wrote in his memoirs that the 90210 cast pretty much dallied with each other freely. He never named names.
But of course, Tori Spelling outed that she, Tori, & Jason had a fling.
Jason was pissed (and I believe embarrassed) that Tori outed them.
See I would NEVER have expected that pairing and no one would have ever known about this if Tori didn’t talk. TBF Tori only outed her own relationships and no other cast mates.
I think the cast have correctly decided to keep their on-set secrets tight.

There were even rumours that Luke and Jennie dated post-divorces, but in the long term decided it best to stay friends.
I think they both felt official coupledom will poison the friendship, especially if it was an ugly break up and considering how jealous both Luke & Jennie are, it would definitely have been an ugly split!!

Jason Priesley was asked if it was true that Luke and Jennie were finally dating and his response “ I hope so”. https://people.com/tv/jennie-garths-...son-priestley/
I think even Jason knew of their history together!
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Welcome Arami and I love your post. I always thought there was something between them but thought that it never got to fruition b/c of Jennie's marriage (the Daniel B. Clark one).
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Totally agree with this Jaime..I always felt like he was so annoyed with Brenda (maybe b/c I was.. ) But he definitely showed more love to Kelly.

It just felt more like acting with all the other couples to me. There was something more to me with Dy/K & I think it's b/c Luke/Jennie had a real connection.



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Thanks for this forum guys.

Luke Perry’s death upset me more than I expected. I’ve been catching up on your forum since then and it’s been a balm of flashbacks, info and great memories!

I’ll start by placing myself firmly in the Dylan & Kelly camp.

Not only did they look physically good together (I love the contrast in their colouring and the height difference) but their chemistry was ………woah!

I 100% believe that Luke and Jennie did date on/off during pretty much all of 90210 and it shouldn’t be a surprise no story ever came out about them.

Shannen Doherty alluded a few years back, to Luke & Kelly’s very special on-set connection when she appeared on Bravo’s Watch What Happens Live. (Though the video’s now unavailable)
Considering Luke pushed for the Dyaln & Kelly storyline, it’s likely the cast was aware of how they felt about each other.

In love scenes of Kelly and Dylan. it’s clear to me that Luke’s besotted with Jennie.
He practically undresses her with his eyes frame for frame.
As you guys correctly stated he ‘breathes her in’

When Luke appeared on WWHL he was offered the Shag, Marry, or Kill option with Tori, Jennie & Shannen and of course he chose to shag Jennie!! What a surprise. NOT!

Jason Priestley wrote in his memoirs that the 90210 cast pretty much dallied with each other freely. He never named names.
But of course, Tori Spelling outed that she, Tori, & Jason had a fling.
Jason was pissed (and I believe embarrassed) that Tori outed them.
See I would NEVER have expected that pairing and no one would have ever known about this if Tori didn’t talk. TBF Tori only outed her own relationships and no other cast mates.
I think the cast have correctly decided to keep their on-set secrets tight.

There were even rumours that Luke and Jennie dated post-divorces, but in the long term decided it best to stay friends.
I think they both felt official coupledom will poison the friendship, especially if it was an ugly break up and considering how jealous both Luke & Jennie are, it would definitely have been an ugly split!!

Jason Priesley was asked if it was true that Luke and Jennie were finally dating and his response “ I hope so”. https://people.com/tv/jennie-garths-...son-priestley/
I think even Jason knew of their history together!
I like the way you think.


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Shannen Doherty alluded a few years back, to Luke & Kelly’s very special on-set connection when she appeared on Bravo’s Watch What Happens Live. (Though the video’s now unavailable)
Yes! We got a bit around here when that interview hit. Now I forgot what she said. It's in some post.

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I think Jennie pretty much said this around the time of the 2012 speculation when she admitted there was a physical attraction between them, admitted Luke was one of her best friends, that they could talk about anything, but then … something about how it would be like dating her Uncle?

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Jason Priesley was asked if it was true that Luke and Jennie were finally dating and his response “ I hope so”
Damn, I was so excited to click on this article again, lol. Basically, it was when he mentioned that everyone in the cast had pretty much hooked up with one another that it became a real possibility to me, because what are the chances that Luke and Jennie would be the exception to a situation like that? But then, yes, there's their marriages to think about. So, probably a lot of unrequited feelings on Luke's part and fear/distance on Jennie's, until forced to move on … much like their show characters.
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He practically undresses her with his eyes frame for frame.

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January: Yeah, context is not doing the 'lasagna' line any favors either. At least it belongs to Kelly/Jake, not Dylan/Kelly. They had to crank out a lot of episodes in short order.

No sentimentality about Kelly and Jake, but they did set us up for understanding where Kelly was at before she began to wish her and Dylan could be something more. It had taken a while for her walls to come down, for her to crave a real relationship, and we had never really seen what it was like when passion ran deep for Kelly and she was weak in the knees (save that one S2 episode with Cousin Bobby, but even that wasn't on par with this).
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so then i made sure I would really really not forget, saying "unpause, unpause!" over and over in my head through the commercial break I figured out there were exactly 6 commercials and the last one would always be a promo for a tv show coming up...plus you had to allow about a 2 second delay from when you hit record again
Um … wow. We were ALL just nuts about nuts! I came to expect 6 commercials too, and of course the promo at the end. But I messed up on hitting record one too many times for my liking and then only tried to condense things if I was running out of room on the tape - but overall, very up on my pausing game, lol. I recorded episodes in SP quality first, then EP when they ran again. And again whenever they aired because why not? Preservation of history and all that. 'It's history, dad.' Boy, you learned how to use your VCR super young, though. I had to wait till S4 - which was perfect, because that was like peak obsession time. Then, the next year, syndication started.
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There was actually a Roswell fan who combined the extra clear picture from the DVD release with the audio from the tv recordings to capture original music
That was the plan. But I think full episodes would be too ambitious. We just need scenes where the music mattered, and anything cut out. It does pain me to think of new generations missing the true spirit of the show, missing actual information and context when scenes are cut, and binging the hell out each season at lightning speed because it's not the same experience. It's not what I can vouch for. If I waited six months for something to happen and you had to wait three and half hours, lol. Funny you mention "Roswell" because I've been missing that show lately. Like BH90210, it had heart and was unapologetic about it.

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some are just very crass, the whole tone of just "mocking" practically everything... […] "ugh so and so is upset for no reason...." if you actually pay attention there is a reason etc.
Ugh, I know. There's definitely a difference between mocking with an underlying love and appreciation, genuinely 'loving to hate' a show from the get-go, and making fun of everything 24/7 as a way to pander to an audience who you think expects exactly that (because, let's face it, most people in the general population think they have the show and its appeal completely understood, on a surface level, without even being a viewer). The same well-meaning people who might turn to very affected fans in the wake of Luke's death and say, "Aw, that's sad. He was cute." Or, "I know he was the Cool One". These are real life examples. I heard these. And it's like … how to explain more?

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Thanks for the welcome guys.

I recently watched this 90210 reunion video and I’m sure y’all have discussed it in the past, but we’re looking at the Jennie/Luke relationship through the lens of history now, so I wanted to give my opinion.

O/T - Why was Vincent Young there?

https://hollywoodlife.com/2016/11/12...n-panel-watch/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI-RscoNkP8&t=199s (Sorry I tried and failed to embed video).

OK, there’s so much to unpack.

When Luke says Brenda /Dylan were the couple of the show – as to be expected, their coupling was the most famous by far - I was taken aback by Jennie’s reaction to Luke giving props to D & B.
She looked pissed and Tori looked kinda stunned.
It was funny & revealing that Tori tried to quickly give props to Dylan & Kelly after Luke's remarks.
I mean Tori’s Jennie’s closest and oldest friend, so she knew how Jennie would feel about the remarks. (Which is also very telling IMO )

Now here’s my question, since Jennie’s always giving props to Brandon & Kelly coupledom, why was she bothered Luke name checked Dylan & Brenda? Why?

I mean IMO, anytime Jennie gave interviews declaring Jason was a better kisser than Luke, I felt it so disrespectful to a guy who clearly adores her.
She could just say no comment, or that Brenda/Colin was the best kisser!
I also think it’s disingenuous considering in early interviews, Jennie gave the highest props to Luke as a wonderful kisser, before doing a 180 in the last couple of years.

So, in the video, Luke knew Jennie was pissed as he tries to walk it back any hurt, by out of nowhere giving a monologue on Jennie’s great acting skills. (Was Luke's way of an apology I guess )

Jennie clearly forgave him considering the backrubs she intermittently gave him for the rest of the session.

I find that video and interesting insight into the dynamics of their real-life relationship.
Tori’s reaction – as the person who knew them both soooooo well – is also telling.

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Now I forgot what she said. It's in some post.
I vaguely remember the host asks Shannen about cast hookups or something and she says something like well everyone knew about Luke and Jennie...or something like that? I wish that video was still online somewhere!

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But then, yes, there's their marriages to think about. So, probably a lot of unrequited feelings on Luke's part and fear/distance on Jennie's, until forced to move on … much like their show characters.
I remember somewhere Jennie admitted that she may have rushed into her marriage with Dan because her father wasn't well and she really wanted to make sure he could walk her down the aisle.
Aw the unrequited feelings on Luke's part.....that's definitely easy for me to imagine

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That's the look! exactly! The way he look's at her sooo many times in the show and that was a behind the scenes pic wasn't it....although maybe they were "rehearsing"?

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In love scenes of Kelly and Dylan. it’s clear to me that Luke’s besotted with Jennie.
He practically undresses her with his eyes frame for frame.
You hit the nail on the head with that Arami, I always use the term he's mesmerized with her, but it's definitely something...I can't remember him looking at anyone else with that same look, but I will be checking on any episodes I watch from now on

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and we had never really seen what it was like when passion ran deep for Kelly and she was weak in the knees (save that one S2 episode with Cousin Bobby, but even that wasn't on par with this).
Funny you should mention Cousin Bobby, I just watched Leading from the heart yesterday, such a sweet episode I had forgotten about. I kept thinking Kelly's dress is the same from their High School graduation? I have to check. Anyway I did notice when they are playing charades and Kelly is describing "The Naked Gun" and showing her shoulder to describe naked, everyone is "woo-ing" etc and Luke/Dylan seems to be very much enjoying it and encouraging

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Um … wow. We were ALL just nuts about nuts! I came to expect 6 commercials too, and of course the promo at the end. But I messed up on hitting record one too many times for my liking and then only tried to condense things if I was running out of room on the tape - but overall, very up on my pausing game, lol. I recorded episodes in SP quality first, then EP when they ran again. And again whenever they aired because why not? Preservation of history and all that. 'It's history, dad.'
glad to know I wasn't the only kid taking this so seriously! I didn't even know there was such a thing as SP, LP etc so everything was SP, 4 hour tapes were the max and yes that means a hell of a lot of tapes were used

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Funny you mention "Roswell" because I've been missing that show lately. Like BH90210, it had heart and was unapologetic about it.
yes as far as teen dramas go, 90210 was my first and biggest love, then I went onto Dawson's and Roswell (and the short lived young americans) the "heart" of the show, that's what I really miss and haven't been able to find in many other series.

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and making fun of everything 24/7 as a way to pander to an audience who you think expects exactly that (because, let's face it, most people in the general population think they have the show and its appeal completely understood, on a surface level, without even being a viewer).
Exactly At least we have this forum where we can actually discuss the depth of the show too.


The script I have is for "The Real McCoy", I'll try scan this one tidbit soon. I mentioned years ago that I kind of gave up on the show at the beginning of season 5, as a young girl it was just far too devastating for me to see Dylan on this downward spiral, and the entrance of Valerie really made me upset, I just couldn't handle it and pretty much said "I'm out" and stopped regular watching, just caught bits and pieces here and there, then you guys here told me I should give it another chance as there was more Dy/K stuff to come so I did revisit the rest of the show a couple years ago but I admit I don't know it well at all compared to the first 4 seasons, as I've only seen each episode from s5 onwards once. So I don't even remember how close this script is to what was shot for The Real McCoy but I plan to re-watch this weekend. Anyway I think you'll all like it

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https://hollywoodlife.com/2016/11/12...n-panel-watch/
Arami! Thank you SO SO much for this link of the full talk! 45 minutes! Just a few days ago I was searching like crazy hoping there was a full video as I only saw the 5 minute one on youtube where they talk about Shannen so I had given up Thank you so much for this!
I just watched it and so many great moments! I loved that Luke said he was there on set even though he wasn't working that day, and he watched Jennie's performance in the slumber party episode and said she knocked it out of the park!

My take on Luke saying his favorite couple was Brenda/Dylan, I think really was his way to say something nice about Shannen while she was sick, they were clearly worried about her and even feeling slightly guilty about the negative things said about her in the past, so he really wanted to send lots of love to her and say anything that sends love her way. If someone asked him a few years before his favorite couple I'm not sure he would have said that, but who knows.

I'll let the rest of you analyze the rest of what was going on in that interview
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Arami! Thank you SO SO much for this link of the full talk! 45 minutes! Just a few days ago I was searching like crazy hoping there was a full video as I only saw the 5 minute one on youtube where they talk about Shannen so I had given up Thank you so much for this!
I just watched it and so many great moments! I loved that Luke said he was there on set even though he wasn't working that day, and he watched Jennie's performance in the slumber party episode and said she knocked it out of the park!

My take on Luke saying his favorite couple was Brenda/Dylan, I think really was his way to say something nice about Shannen while she was sick, they were clearly worried about her and even feeling slightly guilty about the negative things said about her in the past, so he really wanted to send lots of love to her and say anything that sends love her way. If someone asked him a few years before his favorite couple I'm not sure he would have said that, but who knows.

I'll let the rest of you analyze the rest of what was going on in that interview
First you're very welcome.

Secondly I 100% get why Luke said it. My question was to Jennie's reaction.
And my bemusement as to how Tori was trying to do obvious 'clean up' for Luke.
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Hi again, everyone! Been a while.

Had some free time and I ended up watching DK vids. I am loving all the conversation here especially in the last few pages.

Dylan & Kelly were my first OTP and I remember how at that time spoilers weren't much of a thing and our local TV station would air episodes months late. Oh, the nerves I had in S3 were plain funny. So glad it worked out for them in the end. As far as I'm concerned they're still together.
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