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Bandits (Brenda/Dylan) #98: "Your relationship with Dylan isn't over. This is just one moment in a very long lifetime."

welcome to the bandits: dylan & brenda appreciation thread
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Once upon a time, in a town called Beverly Hills, the original bad boy and bad girl got together and created the first supercouple of 90210. They are considered "the most passive-aggressive, co-dependent, enabling" relationship of the 90’s decade. They're also considered to define the show, but if there's one thing that's definite about them, it's that they were intensely in love and always there for each other. They are Dylan and Brenda.

official song: "losing my religion" by r.e.m.
official favorite kiss: first one from first date.
official favorite episode: "the spring dance".
fansite: I Love You More Than Anyone | The Best Couples in the History of Television



001. Little Angel (Tracey)
002. Jordan23 (Pat)
003. loveslullaby (Mikela)
004. DingBat (Amy)
005. *Brenda* (Antonella)
006. Emelie
007. scarett
008. blueschild007
009. Jaime Bee (Jaime)
010. somewhere87
011. True Daisy lover (Tiana)
012. ~Unfaithful~ (Sarah)
013. Princess67895
014. *Lucie* (Lucie)
015. Undeniable (Camilla)
016. Honey06
017. liltashaq
018. bbcountry (Belinda)
019. NtnLilo (Vanessa)
020. sabriras (Maria)
021. Pickles4dawson (Anji)
022. ellie_dakota
023. myla84
024. yulan (Esma)
025. Leneoth (Lene)
026. Brathanfan27
027. starsprite (Jen)
028. Belka
029. Crack Of Doom
030. Swamy
031. Hell on Heels (Miranda)
032. foxybabygirl
033. lildeskee (Desiree)
034. Black mamba (Mel)
035. Callina (Carin)
036. BrownEyes1980 (Eva)
037. hearts that kill (Caro)
038. Casey1010
039. Mirella (Mirella)
040. JULES24
041. Mayberry
042. Pickel-weasel!
043. Luckystarz
044. Alpal206
045. tragedy
046. watchmebleed
047. brookiez69
048. natehaley23 (Kimberly)
049. EvaBlue
050. angel_wings05 (Ashley)
051. *Stacy* (Stacy)
052. SexyBrucas
053. Hermione Granger
054. The truth hurts (Emma)
055. Gracie (Gracie)
056. abbeyroad6282 (Janet)
057. Ruby_Slippers (Ruby)
058. Toscane
059. Dreamer 4 Ever
060. FaLL oUT giRL 0X
061. nessa24
062. Dorkodancer147 (Alex)
063. Giuly
064. I Have A Brain
065. antisocial
066. amberlm2403
067. izziejames
068. angelface211
069. Virtue (Mel)
070. thegoodbyegirl
071. hjj48jc42
072. ROCKSTAR
073. NikNak (Nikki)
074. ale-la-pazza1
075. angeLica_mattheu
076. Moonlight~Pixie (Britney)
077. xburningbrightx
078. x-Jenzy-x (Jen)
079. ciano17
080. vivianaley23 (Vivian)
081. sandy88 (Sandy)
082. pandy17
083. killed the lights (Shanna)
084. - Terrie - (Terrie)
085. DanceWithLife
086. *Dominique* (Dominique)
087. autumn hope
088. lamagamorgana (Fra)
089. ~*Isa*~
090. othanaleyalwaysforever
091. semmanclana
092. GrhmLz (Heather)
093. affinity
094. Centerfinn
095. bhills90210
096. kiss paradise
097. -diana- (Diana)
098. Scarlet's Walk (Caro)
099. ima_roqstar
100. justlikeheaven. (Brenda)
101. KellAndSteve4Ever (Amy)
102. The.Rebel.
103. ILoveOTH23
104. she.is.not.you (Nes)
105. janie23 (Janie)
106. -Sonia-
107. lovesophia
108. brendadylan1984 (Miriam)
109. IloveGizzy (Debra)
110. Forever Young
111. Stubborn White (Malin)
112. breaking silence
113. UsagiMamoru
114. 4brathanandbrucas (Gwen)
115. Jenndeve
116. Titch22 (Fay)
117. CheEsecAKe&BRUCAS (Hiba)
118. ricc88 (Lisa)
119. SwettyMa (Emma)
120. bigtimefan (Michelle)
121. flyingnicole (Nicole)
122. Emanfan642
123. ~carnival-heights~ (Shanti)
124. JBOO46
125. Brenda Walsh (Kaelyn)
126. rainy days
127. Denise (Denise)
128. claudypritz (Claudia)
129. charmingbrenda (Maricris)
130. stormsoflife (Kristen)
131. SJT1204 (Steph)
132. ~Audrey Hapburn~
133. :Kat:
134. vicious_boy
135. SmashinglySweet
136. 80sBabygirl
137. Abby2*
138. cranny_fan
139. Leyton_4ever(Nnenna)
140. atem
141. Cmtaylor531 (Crystal)
142. pattyweck
143. Kelly_Dylan
144. Italy74 (Alessia)
145. - carcrashes
146. ML4ever (Kristen S.)
147. falling slowly
148. ღRose♦Nylundღ
149. andbreathme
150. BananaPudding
151. Jackie85
152. NBalways
153. brazilian_fan
154. Jax527
155. JiannaRene
156. -Terri-
157. Dims
158. those_butterflies
159. **confessa
160. ~Phoenix~
161. Stefani
162. Deiaa
163. John015
164. dylanandbren
165. Catherine90210
166. tv-fan189
167. donnaanddavidx3 (Mela)
168. AgentS
169. Frenchnerd
170. Polish Princess
171. natural_disaster (Amy)
172. anyone_but_you
173. snowfalkes11
174. Semperance
175. Primal_Slayer
176. CrAshaholic
177. MissSullivan
178. BridgeChick
179. Nikkycoly
180. B.Chambers
181. ItsMartinBitch
182. lauriedavis
183. schenn
184. Marianne86
185. KellyChoseBrandon
186. buffygirl_uk
187. Priscilla.
188. MandaShipsBD
189. Chastidy
190. Rachel2091
191. brandonobsessor
192. keleidocat (Nicole)
193. Ciiisu
194. Bangellover001
195. maskedamsel
196. DYLANANDBRENDAFANATIC
197. laliXD
198. NateBlairlover
199. star77
200. KateShephard
201. xkellyx
202. Vixen in Violet
203. pedalinginhummus
204. upthemorning
205. halcyon7
206. cardinalfan06
207. total_overdose
208. BreanBamonFan
209. ~Endless Summer~
210. xbrittnoel21x
211. Brucas_Is_Love
212. Xelphia Kenny
213. lisegurl
214. lovehurts38
215. crashparcypemmafan4life
216. memory91
217. Jermaine
218. ღshewasn'tjustany♦girlღ
219. LoVe09bRuCaS
220. coachmurray
221. Naty L. Potter


001. They are each other's first love.
002. Because their chemistry was there from the beginning.
003. Because even though he said he preferred blondes, he was checking Brenda out.
004. Because he always made eye contact when he told her loved her, something he didn't do with most of his love interests.
005. Because he actually told her he loved her, another thing he never did with most of his love interests.
006. Because he loved her more than he ever thought he could love anybody.
007. Because she would always love him and would never stop.
008. Because the way they got together was incredibly intense, classic and memorable.
009. Because his mom and sister were on 'Team Brenda'.
010. Because she tried to dye her hair blonde and looked hideous just to impress him.
011. Because even though her hair looked horrible, he flirted with her anyways, and took her to get it fixed.
012. Because "Hey...beautiful."
013. Because "Hey, handsome."
014. Because he spent most of season 4 with her.
015. Because they always stuck by and believed in each other.
016. Because she wouldn't be just a girl he knew in highschool. "Not after everything."
017. Because she sat next to him during his dad's funeral.
018. Because they were close friends after they broke up. "The closest."
019. Because they needed each other.
020. Because at one point in time she was the only one he trusted.
021. Because she professed her love to him during her last scene.
022. Because they had their own song.
023. Because Jason considered their first time was considered the most romantic thing ever done on show.
024. Because she gave him her virginity.
025. Because he went to her after his wife died.
026. Because he knew she didn't sleep with Roy because he knew her.
027. Because he was never afraid to show his vulnerability to her, which was something his rarely showed to the majority of his love interests.
028. Because she was happy for him getting married even though she still loved him.
029. Because he was a surrogate member of her family.
030. Because "No...no." nough said.
031. Because their relationship was never just physical. He was there because he loved her.
032. Because their relationship went beyond and was 3 times more intense than a typical highschool, puppy love relationship.
033. Because she's his real soulmate.
034. Because we all know he didn't call her dorm from France just to wish her good luck.
035. Because even Kelly knew Brenda was the great love of his life. And said that they were "meant for each other."
036. Because she had a fantasy of marrying him.
037. Because he had a fantasy of being married to her.
038. Because she saved him from drinking and saved him from himself.
039. Because "Brenda, what am I gonna do without you?"
040. Because if he can't do it, who can?
041. Because "You can depend on me."
042. Because they would never forget Baja as long as they lived even though it set off the end of their relationship.
043. Because he was the hardest thing she ever had to try to stay away from.
044. Because "I have the best boyfriend in the world."
045. Because her family was the only one he had.
046. Because he always wanted to spend the holidays with her (Christmas, Thanksgiving, Halloween exc.)
047. Because they're the most iconic couple on the show.
048. Because people who spend their time reading Baudelaire and searching for Balsac's house just have to end up together.
049. Because they shared love for literature and movies.
050. Because he read a poem by Jack Grapes to her.
051. Because poetry reminds him of her.
052. Because for them, the earth was bed of grass and they slept in it like two seeds.
053. Because her mouth made everything possible.
054. Because with her, he was more than he was.
055. Because they burned with love they lost when they lost each other.
056. Because she was the first one who heard how he got his scarbrow.
057. Because she was the first who listened to him.
058. Because when her hormones got mad, he was the first to know!
059. Because Brenda didn't get a farewell party, but she had her own "party" with Dylan!
060. Because Mr. Walsh goes to Washington and Ms. Walsh goes back to Dylan's arms.
061. Because they were planned to have the original happy ending. And even though they didn't, the majority of fans still prefer them.










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"Dylan deflowering Brenda at the Spring Dance. With that, the 90210 phenomenon was born."- Entertainment Weekly



First Love
Teen Love
Teen Sex
Teen Angst
Animal Crackers
The Spring Dance
Pregnancy Scares
Losing My Religion
Secret Make-outs
Longing
Camping
Wicked Games
Bonnie & Clyde
Horseback Riding
Violin Recitals
Dancing
Half Heart Neclaces
Hot Make-out Sessions
Blood Donations
Love Letters
Baja
Feelings
Wedding Fantasy
Forbidden Romance
Romeo and Juliet
Beach
Roomates
Dances
Christmas Kiss
Neck Crying
Moments Of Love
Closure
Fishing
Romantic Poetry Class
Love Poems
Defending Each Other
Late Night Pick-ups
Don't Dream It's Over
Cheek Kisses
Good Luck Medallions
Plays
Ferris Wheels
Declaration of "I Love You" Goodbyes
Passionate Falling-To-The-Floor-Kisses

"I can't help but think that you'll always be the one he remembers as the great love of his life."- Kelly (to Brenda)


001. "Losing My Religion" by R.E.M.
002. "Wicked Game" by Chris Isaak
003. "Moments Of Love" by Cathy Dennis
004. "Don't Dream It's Over" by Crowded House
005. "Beautiful Disaster" by Kelly Clarkson
006. "I Hate Myself For Losing You" by Kelly Clarkson
007. "Where Is Your Heart" by Kelly Clarkson
008. "Always Be My Baby" by Mariah Carey
009. "And You Don't Remember" by Mariah Carey
010. "Circles" by Mariah Carey
011. "Mine Again" by Mariah Carey
012. "Subtle Invitation" by Mariah Carey
013. "Bringin' On The Heartbreak" by Mariah Carey
014. "Breakdown" by Mariah Carey
015. "Forever" by Mariah Carey
016. "Still" by Jennifer Lopez
017. "Comfortable" by John Mayer
018. "Torn" by Natalie Imbruglia
019. "Farewell" by Rosie Thomas
020. "Fix You" by Coldplay
021. "The Scientist" by Coldplay
022. "Wonderwall" by Oasis
023. "Chasing Cars" by Snow Patrol
024. "How To Save a Life" by The Fray
025. "Iris" by Goo Goo Dolls
026. "You Were Meant For Me" by Jewel
027. "Weak" by Skunk Anansie
028. "Flinch" by Alanis Morisette
029. "Linger" by The Cranberries
030. "Better Than Me" by Hinder
031. "Nothing Compares To You" by Sinead O'Conner
032. "Enjoy the Silence" by Depeche Mode
034. "Precious" by Depeche Mode
035. "Like a Friend" by Pulp
036. "Maybe" by Kelly Clarkson
037. "Be Still" by Kelly Clarkson
038. "The Reason" by Hoobastank
039. "No Ordinary Love" by Sade
040. "By Your Side" by Sade
041. "Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)" by Green Day
042. "Slow Dancing In A Burning Room" by John Mayer
043. "Broken" by Seether
044. "A Sorta Fairytale" by Tori Amos
045. "It's Been Awhile" by Staind
046. "Swallowed" by Bush
047. "The Engine Driver" by Decemberists
049. "Come Home" by One Republic
050. "Apologize" by One Republic
051. "All We Are" by One Republic
052. "Gravity" by Sara Bareilles
053. "Where I stood" by Missy Higgins

ET; What else will you remember?
Luke; I miss working with Shannen Doherty from time to time. You know, Shannen and I mixed it up pretty good- both on-camera and off. She was always very lively. It was always very real with us. I thought that early on we did some really strong work on the show.










{credit to: she.is.not.you.}

"Now Luke and I don't even mind kissing each other once in a while, do we?"
"Watch!" Luke gives Shannen a brotherly kiss on the lips that shades into something a little less platonic.






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Bandits (D/B) #97: Because they found each other in a town of 15 million, if you include the outlying areas.
Bandits (D/B) #96: Because everytime she calls, he comes running.
Bandits (D/B) #95:"Don't get any ideas, ok? 'Cause you're taken." *kiss*
Bandits (D/B) #94: Because "I still think you should be with Brenda"- Erica.
Bandits (D/B) #93: Because they're everything you never experienced in highschool.
Bandits (D/B) #92: Because I am never going to dance again the way I danced with you.
Bandits (D/B) #91: Because they put bathroom meetings in the map!
Bandits (D/B) #90: For never was a story of more woe, than this Brenda Walsh and her Romeo
Bandits (D/B) #89: Because "they were supposed to be in Love Letters" - Mama Doherty
Bandits (D/B) #88: Because when it comes to Brenda, he can move.
Bandits (D/B) #87: Because he would drive all night to get her.
Bandits (D/B) #86: Because their chemistry put censors into overload.
Bandits (D/B) #85: "Please don't think I didn't care. I did. I do."
Bandits (D/B) #84: "The hardest thing I ever had to do was try to stay away from you."
Bandits (D/B) #83: Because he went to five hospitals looking for her.
Bandits (D/B) #82: "You're making me all that I was meant to be."
Bandits (D/B) #81: "It's Brenda. She's very important to me."
Bandits (D/B) #80: "Love is not love, which alters, when alteration finds."
Bandits (D/B) #79: Because one whiff of her hair made him believe again.
Bandits (D/B) #78: Because "There's that voice I missed so much."
Bandits (D/B) #77: "Bren, you don't have to convince me. I'm on your side."
Bandits (D/B) #76: Because she gave him a better outlook on life and on himself.
Bandits (D/B) #75: "I'm counting the steps to the door of your heart."
Bandits (D/B) #74: "Time can't erase a feeling this strong."
Bandits (D/B) #73: Because Brenda's performance gave Dylan goosebumps.
Bandits (D/B) # 72: "Once Dylan's had a woman she stays had."- Luke Perry
Bandits (D/B) # 71: Because he'll never give himself to another the way he gave it to her.
Bandits (D/B) #70:: "They always used to bust me and Shannen on gropin' each other".- Luke Perry
Bandits (D/B) #69: Because they redefined the gentle art of touching.
Bandits (D/B) #68: "You're the only one I trust."
Bandits (D/B) #67: "The notion always was that we were going to bring them back together."
Bandits (D/B) #66: Because their love always bordered on criminal.
Bandits (D/B) #65: Because Luke and Shannen understood the subtext.
Bandits (D/B) #64: They did conceive that night at the dance: The teen soap.
Bandits (D/B) #63: Because even in the darkest times, their love never wavered.
Bandits (D/B) #62: Because they are the romance that launched a thousand imitations.
Bandits (D/B) #61: Because they were always so subtle, yet so loud.
Bandits (D/B) #60: Because they always go out with a bang, not a whimper!
Bandits (D/B) #59: Because Brenda always did hang on. But Dylan didn't exactly let go.
Bandits (D/B) #58: Because they did not judge each other. They enjoyed each other.
Bandits (D/B) #57: Because the schoolyard was their bed of grass.
Bandits (D/B) #56: Because they are worth a long distance phone call between Esma and Maria.
Bandits (D/B) #55: Because "Trust me, they're meant for each other."
Bandits (D/B) #54: Because it STILL isn't over.
Bandits (D/B) #53: Their relationship may have been questioned, but their love wasn't.
Bandits (D/B) #52: "I'd take another chance, take a fall, take a shot for you."
Bandits (D/B) #51: Something always leads me back to you. It never takes too long.
Bandits (D/B) #50: She may have been out of the picture, but never out of his heart.
Bandits (D/B) #49: Because she loves his butt...urgh his bike.
Bandits (D/B) #48: Because she treats his ribs so fine.
Bandits (D/B) #47: Because Brenda hooked Dylan's sweatshirt...and his heart.
Bandits (D/B) #46: Because they got out of the zip, didn't want to live by the code.
Bandits (D/B) #45: Because she didn't have a goddess complex, that's why he adored her.
Bandits (D/B) #44: Because "Whatever it takes to get you back...it's worth it."
Bandits (D/B) #43: Because they were each other´s strongest weakness.
Bandits (D/B) #41: Game of charades. Dylan pointing to his heart? Obvious answer: Brenda.
Bandits (D/B) #40: Because they are together even when they are not together.
Bandits (D/B) #39: Because EVERY GIRL wanted to go out with him, BUT he wanted JUST ONE.
Bandits (D/B) #38: Because "It was easy... I believed in you.
Bandits (D/B) #37: Because Dylan saved the last dance for her.
Bandits (D/B) #36: They are both into literature. Having their own language of love.
Bandits (D/B) #35: "It's hard to love him, but we sure do, don't we."
Bandits (D/B) #34: Because they are the supercouple of 90210!
Bandits (D/B) #33: Because meeting Brenda = End of loneliness.
Bandits (D/B) #32: Because she was the first one who heard about the origin of his scars.
Bandits (D/B) #31: Because he gave her his heart for Christmas!
Bandits (D/B) #30: Because they were there for each other when no one else was.
Bandits (D/B) #29: Because they were close friends. The closest.
Bandits (D/B) #28: Because with her he could forget just about everything.
Bandits (D/B) #27: First loves, Romeo & Juliet, Bonnie & Clyde, They're so meant to be.
Bandits (D/B) #26: "Married with children? Well, hey, little lady, we'll take it one step at a time."
Bandits (D/B) #25: "If there is somebody calling me she's the one."
Bandits (D/B) #24: "I'd cheat destiny just to be near you."
Bandits (D/B) #23: "Entwined...All that we are is defined by each other."
Bandits (D/B) #22: "For all my life, I'll feel it."
Bandits (D/B) #21: "Our love was so comfortable and so broken in."
Bandits (D/B) #20: "It always comes around...back to you."
Bandits (D/B) #19: "Baby, you're the only light I ever saw."
Bandits (D/B) #18: "A place in time still belongs to us."
Bandits (D/B) #17: "I'd give up forever to touch you."
Bandits (D/B) #16: Because all roads lead back to them.
Bandits (D/B) #15: Because no one made him smile like she did.
Bandits (D/B) #14: Because she will always be his pretty woman.
Bandits (D/B) #13: Because "Do you know how lucky we were to have found each other?"
Bandits (D/B) #12: Because of them we learned how sassy classic music can be.
Bandits (D/B) #11: Because even The Louisiana Purchase could turn them on.
Bandits (D/B) #10: Because Don't Dream It's Over We Didn't Lose Our Religion.
Bandits (D/B) #09: True love doesn't have a happy end, it never ends.
Bandits (D/B) #08: Because they danced all night. Well not ALL night. *Raises Eyebrows*
Bandits (D/B) #07: "Even an ocean between us, I will always love you."
Bandits (D/B) #06: "We were so right when we were at our high."
Bandits (D/B) #05: Because she's seen that look before, so has he.
Bandits (D/B) #04: "Nobody stands between me and my man."
Bandits (D/B) #03: Because he loved her more than he thought he'd ever love anybody.
Bandits (D/B) #02: Because she will always be the great love of Dylan's life.
Bandits (D/B) #01: Because the only one who could save him was a Walsh.


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New thread, finally Thanks, Rachel! I love that Iris was a Bandit

But...didn't the whole quote fit?
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New thread, finally Thanks, Rachel! I love that Iris was a Bandit

But...didn't the whole quote fit?
Yeah, I was confused by that. I thought you want to rephrase it. I'll change it right now. Do you want me to leave the "Because" in there? Or just fit the entire quote as is? Thanks. Sorry, I'm still learning.
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yay! TFTNT! And I'm dragging this over from the other thread...

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I think they used that one week to make up for "lost" time. And I think everything went downhill for Dylan after that week was over. He lost all that money and later on found out that Brenda's not coming back. But the good thing was that he went to her.
Notice that he mentions to Brandon in early S5 that everyone except for Brandon and Kelly seem like "just people he knew in high school" when not even two years prior he made a point to tell Brenda that she wouldn't be "just another girl he knew in high school"? Do you think this was done on purpose? Kind of as a way to hint at how hurt Dylan was by Bren not coming back from London? Like he knew she wasn't there to hear it, but saying it somehow made him feel better? IDK. Does that make sense to anyone? It's late here.
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Ohh, no need to be sorry, Rachel I just thought it would be best to have the whole quote, just to remember those were Iris's exact words I think you'll have to leave "because" out, though, 'cause it doesn't fit....but that's ok, it's not necessary

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Ohh, no need to be sorry, Rachel I just thought it would be best to have the whole quote, just to remember those were Iris's exact words I think you'll have to leave "because" out, though, 'cause it doesn't fit....but that's ok, it's not necessary
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Notice that he mentions to Brandon in early S5 that everyone except for Brandon and Kelly seem like "just people he knew in high school" when not even two years prior he made a point to tell Brenda that she wouldn't be "just another girl he knew in high school"? Do you think this was done on purpose? Kind of as a way to hint at how hurt Dylan was by Bren not coming back from London? Like he knew she wasn't there to hear it, but saying it somehow made him feel better? IDK. Does that make sense to anyone? It's late here.
I think that statement was just one more proof of how hurt he was at that point and especially, how alone he felt. BD probably spent one amazing week together, she promised to come back and then, when he's in a desperate need of a friend to trust, she's not there. One more thing to add to the pile of Dylan's disappointments. You just have to see his face when he hears that Brenda will be staying in England: "I won't be in London forever Dylan...riight". Everything at that point makes him feel everyone turned their backs on him...again. After that, I think he mentioned Kelly because he probably thought she'd be there for him even after they broke up, considering they had broken up before and reconciled. And Brandon, well, he's there...so of course Dylan is going to mention him.

But since he went to her in London and they lived together for 2 years, to me it's obvious that Brenda is way beyond "another high school girl" for Dylan.
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I think that statement was just one more proof of how hurt he was at that point and especially, how alone he felt. BD probably spent one amazing week together, she promised to come back and then, when he's in a desperate need of a friend to trust, she's not there. One more thing to add to the pile of Dylan's disappointments. You just have to see his face when he hears that Brenda will be staying in England: "I won't be in London forever Dylan...riight". Everything at that point makes him feel everyone turned their backs on him...again. After that, I think he mentioned Kelly because he probably thought she'd be there for him even after they broke up, considering they had broken up before and reconciled. And Brandon, well, he's there...so of course Dylan is going to mention him.

But since he went to her in London and they lived together for 2 years, to me it's obvious that Brenda is way beyond "another high school girl" for Dylan.
Agreed. That's how I meant it. As if he was hurting, so he (maybe even only subconsciously) wanted to hurt her, too. Even though she wasn't there to hear it. kwim? I think that's why the choice of wording was so similar to what was said in S3 before Jack's funeral.

He brings her up quite a few times around that point (to Brandon with the "Brenda's got guts" tirade, to Val when he calls her out on trying to jump into Brenda's place...), and he just seems to be so hurt and angry about the fact that she stayed in London.
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You just have to see his face when he hears that Brenda will be staying in England: "I won't be in London forever Dylan...riight". Everything at that point makes him feel everyone turned their backs on him...again.
I agree. I think the only bright side of his summer was that he thought Brenda was coming back. By the way, who was that guy who called Dylan telling him about Brenda? It was a guy, wasn't it? I forgot.


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After that, I think he mentioned Kelly because he probably thought she'd be there for him even after they broke up, considering they had broken up before and reconciled. And Brandon, well, he's there...so of course Dylan is going to mention him.
I always consider Kelly to be nothing more than Dylan's backup. I think in S3, when Dylan chose Kelly over Brenda, he used the line, "It's always been you, Kel." I don't know what Dylan's definition of "always" was but it surely wasn't the same one I was thinking of. If Kelly was "always" the one, he would've picked her before first going out with Brenda. Also if it was always "Kelly", he would've tried to convince Kelly to runaway with him. Technically he could've since Kelly wasn't with Brandon S6. So there wasn't really anything getting in his way, except for Collin. But instead, he ran to Brenda.

I agree with you on Dylan expected Kelly to still be there for him after their breakup. He did the same when he returned in S9 after Dylan and Brenda broke up.

Not to offend him in any way but, I wish Dylan could tell the difference between his backup and his true love.
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Hey, guys. It's been awhile but stopping in to show my support for my beloved BD once again. Also, I've been rewatching episodes so some of my nostalgia has returned again ...

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I agree. I think the only bright side of his summer was that he thought Brenda was coming back. By the way, who was that guy who called Dylan telling him about Brenda? It was a guy, wasn't it? I forgot.
I'm pretty certain it was Brandon who left that message for Dylan; however, someone else can correct me if I'm wrong.

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I always consider Kelly to be nothing more than Dylan's backup. I think in S3, when Dylan chose Kelly over Brenda, he used the line, "It's always been you, Kel." I don't know what Dylan's definition of "always" was but it surely wasn't the same one I was thinking of. If Kelly was "always" the one, he would've picked her before first going out with Brenda. Also if it was always "Kelly", he would've tried to convince Kelly to runaway with him. Technically he could've since Kelly wasn't with Brandon S6. So there wasn't really anything getting in his way, except for Collin. But instead, he ran to Brenda.
Very good points.

Also, I think what's indicative of the night he 'chose' Kelly in S3 is the fact that Brenda was not there. That is an important point that can be overlooked, I think. Kelly brings it to Dylan's attention face to face in the pool scene with the 'Did you choose me because Brenda wasn't here tonight' spiel. Dylan even answers with a 'maybe', he never denies it and reinforces that his decision is solely based on her and her alone. In essence, I think Brenda's absence really made it easier for Dylan not to really have to choose at all, if that makes sense. In his mind, Brenda not being there meant he didn't have to reject her face to face in order to choose Kelly over her. He took the easy road out - he was feeling on the outs with Brenda's father (not ever good enough), trying to re-establish a relationship with his own father while Jim didn't want Brenda and Brandon around Jack McKay, he and Brenda had just experienced another rough patch in their own relationship ... with Kelly there were no boundaries nor rules. It wasn't even intense, I think he thought it was freedom ... I mean, the one thing that always struck me on how physical the DK relationship really was, instead of them really bonding on an emotional level, is when he rejects her idea to take things slow with his line about how they knew each other their whole lives and they can't take it any slower than that. With Brenda, he makes it very clear to her many times through his actions and through his words that he was never there for that first and foremost. He waited for her.

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I agree with you on Dylan expected Kelly to still be there for him after their breakup. He did the same when he returned in S9 after Dylan and Brenda broke up.
S9 really leaves me with alot of questions as far as BD/DK is concerned - besides the obvious historical revisionism when it comes to the actual time frame and how long BD were together in London, I would have liked some insinuation into what made Dylan want to leave Brenda in the first place. Did he leave her or did Brenda have enough? Did they part amicably, deciding friendship was just the better route for the time being? I know Dylan told Kelly certain things; however, it has always been pretty easy for me to take for granted that he could have been lying about alot of it, secretive on purpose, especially with the dark path the writers took his character down for that season and beyond.

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That doesn't offend me - I actually don't like who Dylan becomes when he's with Kelly. After what I described a couple paragraphs above, S9 just drove that point home even further for me that Kelly wasn't someone he intended to ever have a functional relationship with. BD had their moments but I never once doubted how Dylan and Brenda really felt for each other in the first two seasons. There was always genuine love present even amongst their mishaps/errors. I could never feel or sense that with DK.
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I'm pretty certain it was Brandon who left that message for Dylan; however, someone else can correct me if I'm wrong.
Ok, thanks. I just re-watch that scene again. The voice doesn't really seem like Brandon but I guess it is. So, thanks!

"Yo dude, August, the 5th, 9 o' clock. Bren asked me to call and let you know that she's not coming home next week. They gave her a full scholarship so she's staying in London for the whole year. She said she'll try you again in the weekend. Am I a good messenger or what? Where are you, dude? Call me sometime, later."

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Also, I think what's indicative of the night he 'chose' Kelly in S3 is the fact that Brenda was not there. That is an important point that can be overlooked, I think. Kelly brings it to Dylan's attention face to face in the pool scene with the 'Did you choose me because Brenda wasn't here tonight' spiel. Dylan even answers with a 'maybe', he never denies it and reinforces that his decision is solely based on her and her alone.
I agree. But in a way, I think Dylan was gonna chose Kelly either way because I think he wanted to continue their "summer fling" together. It's tough for me to say this but I stand by my comment. I think that entire storyline where Dylan has to decide between Brenda or Kelly was too long. Unknowingly to Brenda, I think that Dylan had ALREADY made his choice to pick Kelly.

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In essence, I think Brenda's absence really made it easier for Dylan not to really have choose at all, if that makes sense. In his mind, Brenda not being there meant he didn't have to reject her to her face in order to choose Kelly.
I don't think that Brenda's appearance at the dinner made much difference. As Brenda told Brandon, she never thought Dylan would choose Kelly over her. So, I think that she had won by default. I think he considered both options. If he chose Brenda and somewhere down the line if Brenda found out about DK's summer fling, she would dump him. In turn, he was afraid that Kelly wasn't gonna give him a second chance, thinking that he's just dating for because he's on the rebound.

By choosing Kelly, Dylan cut the stuff in the middle. Since Kelly was part of the fling, they would have no secrets from each other. Therefore, Dylan wouldn't have to hide anything from Kelly. After that, he wouldn't have to reject Brenda alone. I think that's sick and twisted.

After breaking the news to Brenda, it seemed that Dylan wasn't really the one who felt bad. That's one of the only things I don't like about Dylan. He never seems to show and feel any remorse. Instead, Kelly's friendship with Brenda was NEVER the same again. The same thing happened when DK slept together in Mexico in S9. Afterward, Kelly felt guilty but Dylan was like "Why don't you get undress again?" Same thing happened with Brandon in 5x30. After Kelly chose herself, Dylan went on with his life as if it was nothing. Instead, Brandon and Kelly's relationship was never the same. Brandon felt that Kelly would never marry him. Kelly lost the loving relationship he had with Brandon.


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I mean, the one thing that always struck me on how physical the DK relationship really was, instead of really bonding on an emotional level, is when he rejects her idea to take things slow with his line about how they knew each other their whole lives and they can't take it any slower than that. With Brenda, he makes it very clear to her many times through actions and words that he was never there for that. He waited for her.
So true. With Kelly, Dylan had practically no boundaries or obstacles. She was willing to sleep with him. Dylan didn't have to fight off or hide from any parents. With that, they spend practically all their time "doing it." So, to me, they're more like sex buddies. As said in one episode of "Sex and the City," "YOU DON'T DATE A EFF BUDDY. YOU JUST EFF HIM." Please pardon my French. Now, to me, that was fine with Dylan. He admits that when he saw BK together for the first time, "I assume this isn't a physical thing, right? Because Kelly, she's not into that..well, not anymore. Ain't that right, Kel?" I think Dylan didn't want Kelly to mature like she did throughout the series. He wanted the S1 "Don't you think I'm pretty" Kelly. After a while, Kelly was looking for something more in between. She wanted the WHOLE relationship, not just the sex. Otherwise, she wouldn't have ran off to Brandon. Let the record show that Kelly ran away from Dylan to be with Brandon but NEVER the other way around.

From what I can see, Dylan never dated anyone quite like Brenda before. Brenda had limits and conditions to their relationship. She had to be convinced by Dylan that he really loved her for her. In S1, I truly saw that. That's why in a way, I think The Spring Dance was Brenda's 1st time BUT it was also Dylan's 1st time, where the sex meant something. It was something he earned. Therefore, the love was real and not just some recreational sport, where the relationship falls apart in the off season.


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S9 really leaves me with alot of questions as far as BD/DK is concerned - besides the obvious historical revisionism when it comes to the actual time frame and how long BD were together in London, I would have liked some insinuation into what made Dylan want to leave Brenda in the first place. Did he leave her or did Brenda have enough? Did they part amicably, deciding friendship was just the better route for the time being? I know Dylan told Kelly certain things; however, it has always been pretty easy for me to take for granted that he could have been lying about alot of it, secretive on purpose, especially with the dark path the writers took his character down for that season and beyond.
I agree. The S8/S9 writers obviously didn't do their homework. The timeline error can best be described where B/D got together in S6 but broke up sometime during S7. They briefly got back together towards the end of S8, where they claimed they can't make it to Brandon and Kelly's wedding. Shortly after the wedding, they broke up again. So, when Dylan told Kelly that he haven't been together with Brenda for 2 years, he wasn't counting the brief encounter in S8. I got this info from Wikipedia (before the character pages were removed).

I really don't know why B/D broke up. I doubt that Dylan left Brenda for Kelly. He only pursued Kelly because he decided to come back to L.A.

Also, I think that Dylan saw a lot of Brenda in Toni. Just like Brenda, Dylan had issues with Toni's father. In a way, I can't help but picture B/D when Dylan and Toni were together. I think Dylan saw that too.


**Sorry for going off topic a little here and there. I was just trying to prove a point. **

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I am loving everyone's comments. I have always thought that Dylan chose Kelly because it was the easiest and safest route and he always went to her after Brenda broke his heart. Brenda went to Paris, she broke up with him for Rick, she didn't go to the party, she went away to school, she didn't come back from London, they broke up in London, etc. I think Kelly and Dylan brought out the worst in each other.

THey completely changed the timeline too. They mentioned that Dylan and Brenda were still together during the failed wedding but did they mention it in season 9? I always thought Brandon mentioned something in the premiere to Kelly like she should still go to the honeymoon and meet up with them, anyone remember that?

Also, does anyone remember dylan calling her selfish to kelly in season 9? I took it to mean she ended things with him. He always seemed to want to hurt her when she ends things. Like going with Kelly or saying she was just another person he knew in high school because he was mad she didn't come back from London.

Also, does he mention erica or iris at all the last two seasons? Didn't erica go off to live with him and brenda?
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I just came back from a movie night and I'm starting to catch up :wiggle.:...But first of all, Heather, I'm so happy to see you around again! I hope you don't be a stranger anymore

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It was definitely Brandon

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I don't think Erica is mentioned again after S8. I thought she was living with Dylan & Brenda but as far as I remember, we never got an update after Dylan comes back in S9.
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