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Old 04-09-2008, 04:44 PM
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it's been ten years, that's crazy! I can't wait for the new stuff to come out for this movie.
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me either! im excited. ten years seems to have flown by
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yes 10 years.. it seems like forever, I really don't have to feeling it flew by, god they both are gonna be some different in this movie and they are gonna have kids!
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Old 04-11-2008, 06:24 AM
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yeh its gonna be great seeing them with kids im so excited for that, there lucky those children playing the characters
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those childeren are very lucky!
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:24 PM
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I can't wait to see the cute family.
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:45 AM
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Monica Shapiro, Richard Yates's daughter, has written a pretty interesting article about the movie and her father's book. I thought you'd like to read it guys. I love her words, she talks about it with so much passion and admiration. I highlighted my favorite sentence, about Leo and Kate. lol

Here's Hoping

by Monica Shapiro
written for richardyates.org
March 29, 2008


My sister Sharon and I went to the movie set this summer. There in all their Yatesian glory, were Frank and April not understanding each other, understanding each other too well. DiCaprio and Winslet were perfect. Mendes seems to be succeeding in bringing the book to life in this further medium -- non-readers will be able to see the Wheelers, and Howard Givings, and Mrs. Givings, and to contemplate life on Yatesian terms. Brilliant casting, a screenplay that seems to have left well enough alone, and a director who seems to get it, the humor as well as the tragedy.

It is impossible for me to imagine only knowing the film version of a book, and I can't help hoping everybody wants the experience to be available both ways; but how miraculous is it, that an artist's great lifelong desire should be granted; that people should listen to him, and continue to know the people he gave voice to, forever. That is what Hollywood can do for literature.

For all his dismal takes on things, Richard Yates lived on hope. On his best days, he was writing forward to the world. People would hear what he had to say, because he was saying it well and speaking from his open heart. He knew that unglamorous honesty would always interest some in every generation. The present didn't matter.

And to that, Dad's reaction would have been: "That's crazy man's talk. Mental wards are full of guys 'writing forward to the world'"

Yeah yeah. Well then how about this? There was nothing so magical to him as getting it right, putting it exactly. He lived for it. And he had the talent and the strength of mind to achieve it, and to delight in the achievement whenever it occurred. Even there amongst the cockroaches and the cigarette grit, sleeping on dirty sheets, he could experience that, and savor it, and he did.

A neighbor of mine read Revolutionary Road recently. "Did you like it?" I asked.

"I did, I did," she said consolingly. "They certainly were a dysfunctional group of people."

Dad in heaven, gnashing his teeth: "Oh for Christ's sake."

"They never had any happy warm times together."

I wish I'd stuck up for him, and us, all the dysfunctional people Dad wrote about: "Hey! Those drunken conversations were good! They had some laughs! Howard Givings was a real blast, that first time they met."

Of course, he once told me drinking was his only pleasure.

"You need to find some other pleasure."

"Like what? Nature? Exercise?"

"Like waking up without a hangover. Feeling healthy."

"Health's out. Lungs are shot."

Women were mostly out, too, although he kept a light on there and never stopped looking and appreciating, long after actual love affairs were a thing of the past. That's what those grad students in Alabama didn't get. Sure he was condescending towards us females, but he was gallant and kindly about it. Girls and women as charming and exasperating creatures, all their permutations, interested him the way books, and ideas and stereotypes did, and old songs and remarkable conversations and funny intelligent men, bright and tragic moments all along the way to the awful end. He was never bored, nor did he understand the meaning of the word "vacation". "What would I do on a vacation? Not write? How would that be fun?"

I'm glad he was able to get so much of his wit and eye for humanity into those entertaining books. I'm glad they're out there, noticing the things we all notice and often wish we didn't, making us think about what it means to be alive and up against our limitations, even as we're simply turning the pages to find out what happened next. I'm excited to see how far this movie can succeed in extending his reach, and whether, given every chance, his work will appeal to the wider world the way he always believed it could. Here's hoping.

source : Best of Everything: The Richard Yates Archive
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:16 AM
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Thanks so much for posting this. Really sounds like an interesting book and movie. Her fathers views sound a lot like Isak Dinesens (my favorite author). Kind of a detached beauty to the world. Now I'm looking forward to this even more!
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thanks for posting it. I reading it. it was very beautifully written
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thanks for that Cathy, I am glad that Yates' daughter likes the cast and that Sam Mendes is doing such a good job. I wonder what Richard would have thought about the movie if he would have been alive..
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Me too.

that girls lucky if she got to meet Leo and Kate
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Very lucky! Wouldn't it be great to be in her shoes?
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aw, yay thanks for posting that!
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I would love to be in her shoes Art
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me too, she's very very lucky.
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