Previous Threads:

#1: We Don't know what we are yet
#2: We Sparkle all over the V Board
#3: We make Threads Sparkle and Shine
#4: We Illuminate the V Board
#5: Vanessa is G-L-A-M-O-R-O-U-S
#6: There's not a star in heaven that we can't reach
#7: We are so STELLAR
#8: We go through threads faster than we can think of titles
#9: We decorate the thread like stones on the big V
#10: We can talk about bling-bling anything
#11: We're Obviously too cool for a title
#12: We're girls, we like to Talk, You do the Math
#13: Because we'd like to abolish time zones
#14: Because we're getting no sleep tonight!
#15: Because we're so off-topic, that we don't even have a title.
#16: Because being off topic makes us so fantasticalicious
#17: Because we're too sexy for a title
#18: Because Not Even Timezones can Stop Us Talking to Each Other
#19: Get Your Holden-Time Here!
#20: Because none of us have cooties!
#21: Warning: Fangirls closer than they appear
#22: b/c we're like Roadrunner, we zip through threads!
#23: b/c This is the procrastination thread
#24: We're open 24/7
#25: b/c Mama, we're big girls now, so stop calling us
#26: b/c we're making t-shirts
#27: 27 threads? We can't believe it either.
#28: We want to see Holden write!
#29: Can Rachael call you Larry, too?
#30: Wait, HSM university? Where do I sign up?
#31: We all have our Stalkers
#32: b/c we want Tay back full time
#33: 'Cause School is Overrated
#34: Pick a Name, Any Name...
#35: Our Mission: Getting Holden to the Boyfriend Board
#36: B/c Lucas and V want to see Holden at the B/F Board
#37: Zac is calling you Holden!
#38:"I miss you *pout*" - Zac to Holden
#39: First Stop: Peggy's fic Next? BB!
#40: We're brain-dead... but Holden still needs to go to the BF board
#41: Holden, will you just go over there already?
#42: b/c hopefully Holds hasn't gotten an ego with this BB stuff
#43: Jill & Matt FTW....BB Holdy Doll
#44: Waking early or later the 'Stones are still Great
#45: Because Andy is awesome and tired
#46: Because V brought us, the Rhinestones to the TCAs
#47: OMG! WE CANNOT CALM DOWN!
#48: Because in our perfect world...the weekend would never end!
#49: Because Math classes are good for naps
#50: Because we need a week off!
#51: Because stuff happens, we just don't pay attention.
#52: Because FF needs a gangsta smilie, yo!
#53: So long, farewell, auf Weidersehen, goodnight
#54: Because life would be so much better as a musical
#55: Because mint chocolate chip icecream is from heaven
#56: Because dark rooms make us happy
#57: Because we signed up for Ice Cream Addicts Anonymous!
#58: Because we're all Supergirl when it comes to posting
#59: Funny llama, fuzzy llama, llama, llama duck
#60: Because we're making clones!
#61: Because we can't live without internet!
#62: b/c Tay's mission: total RENT domination
#63: b/c Plaid Pants. Leather Jacket. Jeans. Sweatshirt. *drool*
#64: b/c Vanessa as Mimi? SAPRDF!
#65: b/c we wish we had legs as great as Wilson's and Vanessa's
#66: b/c we say "Hallelujah!" for holidays
#67: b/c no one can think of a title
#68: b/c BBV thinks that Pookie should get his own board too
#69: b/c Cap'N Crunch and The Jam...interesting
#69: b/c V Board = No Sleep
#70: Because it's time to get our freak on
*71: b/c we're gonna take over the world
#72: b/c Jimmy's son wants some action *whip*
#73: b/c BARNEY! OMG! I love that creepy guy in the suit! He's my hero!
#74: b/c we wanna visit RCAPWRUMCBOTUAIRWWCAPGARL
#75: b/c Tay's getting everyone leather catsuits and tiaras for Christmas
#76: Because it's Lucas's birthday...Let's party!
#77: Because we can't live without our pasta!
#78: Because this is a bird-FREE zone!
#79: Because Holden demands a new Thread
#80: Because we got Bus!Boy Stories
#81: Because we're a romance novel waiting to happen
#82: b/c we love our smoothies
#83: b/c bow-chicka-wow-wow chicka-wow-wow
#84: b/c we can't wait our presents er turkey
#85: B/C even the Naughty girls got presents!
#86: b/c come new years, we'll be crazier as ever
#87: Who says we need a title?
#88: b/c hey hae yo loked at a kybord? ist cornfusin
#89 b/c titles... title... nope can't think of any
#90: B/c there is nothing hotter than a guy who can sing
#91: Because if only they knew what they were doing to us *sigh*
#92: b/c who needs sleep when you have happy!crack
#93: We're each other's support group
#94: Red & Yellow make Orange
#95: we ♥ The Girl who plays Gabriella, Corrie, TinTin & Sa5m
#96: Cause happy happy joy joy
#97: b/c know a fun game? Loathing Holden!
#98: b/c we like shiny things...and music! Music is fun! And so is....
#99: Because I, Holden, opened this thread
#100: 100 threads of chatterboxness!
#101: b/c you can get sick through the internet! It's true!
#102: Who wants to come to my nudist wedding? Any takers?
#103: Because Holden's brain isn't functioning yet
#104: b/c a sexy picspam cheers up everyone! *nod*
#105: Because my fish is swimming here staring at me
#106: b/c no one is allowed to call Schnookems ugly! THAT MEANS YOU MOMMY
#107: Because indecisiveness rules HERE
#108: Because yay, bacon for breakfast!
#110: because seeing V and Rosa together makes Tay's heart 'splode!
#111: because its almost sushi night for us
#112: b/c Riia made Nikka open the thread without a title
#113: b/c Ed Green and Olivia Benson are having a love child. The end.
#114: b/c I'm intoxicated by my very presence.
#115: Because Holden sucks at coming up with titles
#116: Because the only thing worse than homework is gardening.
#117: Because Andy's mind just went *blank**implode*
#118: Give me a title and I'll put it on here
#119: Nothing makes us hide faster than having to open a thread!
#120: Because bad fanfic is enough to make anyone sleepy!
#121: Witty titles are so overrated.
#122: Adam and Rosa FTW! Tay has spoken!
#123: WARNING! FF addiction can lead to sleeplessness
#124: b/c talking is easier than thinking up titles.
#125: b/c we're the biggest group of fangirls you'll ever meet!
#126: because everybody loves ME, and no, I am not conceited.
#127: Because titles are so not my forte.
#128: Make up your own title. We don't have time.
#129: b/c we're sorry that you can't be us.....we really are
#130: Because every hip fangirl loves a good nail job
#131: Cause people would be offended if I used the other title.
#132: Because yes! I want fries with that!
#133: Because Holden is very commanding
#134: Because blaming holden: VAH board's fave hobby
#135: Funeral planners wanted. Apply within.
#136: If you come here looking for a serious convo, don't bother.
#137: I like watching the bubblies in my Sprite bottle float to the top!
#138: Cause pickles and movies were made for each other!
#139: Because Holden sucks for not giving us a title
#140: WANTED: pumpkin carver for Holden's replacement head
#141: Because one of us groped people...in Kindergarten! Guess who?
#142: Because Becca and her kids like fire
#143: Because you need a surgical mask to be in here.
#144: Because Rachael was no help. *pout*
#145: Because it's never too early to begin the drunkness!
#146: Because Texting & Drawing in class saves our sanity
#147: Exams and Hiatuses suck. The End
#148 - Lizard pee stinks!
#149: b/c Izzy hates slow internet!
#150: Just keep swimming, what do we do? We swim, swim...
#151: Because only cool teachers show Finding Nemo in class
#152: Because Jill needs therapy! Please help! *flowers*
#153 Because we're halfway thru Holden's hiatus! Hooray!
#154: Because seriously, is Holden back yet?
#155: Because here's your title - deal with it
#156: Because it's my dream to live in a van down by the river
#157: because Tay's changing Holden's name to Sexy McSparkypants
#158: Because chocolate covered peanuts make the world go 'round
#159: Because boys are so confusing and LAME and clueless!!!!!!!!!!!
#159: Rhinestones (OT) #160: Because LB is an ass.
Rhinestones (OT) #161: b/c everyone needs a giant clown whistle
#162: Because good taste runs in the family
#163: Because having sticky jelly pants is NOT cool
#164: STOP! Rhinestone time!
#165: Mamma Mia, here we go again!
#166: Just use your imagination
#167: Moo with me! Moooooooo
#168: SPPPEEAAAAKKKK!!!!....it's RENT people, deal.
#169: Coz we cant think of titles so we'll just use Holden's name
#170: Because Kat's too lazy to open and blames it on Holden
#171: Because Kat's making a lot of excuses and Holden disappeared!
#172: Cause Kat shouldn't have made me open.
#173: Cause I'm wondering why Nikka didn't open
#174: bc Kat and Riia are the best at coming up with titles
#175: Coz Holden & Izzy's names are enough to count as title.
#176: b/c Tay demands that Stina & Cookie's names are in the title!
#177: Because Kat, Riia? Thread title war is so on!
#178: B/c Holden wants to know why can't we all be born potty trained
#179: B/c We all need our daily dose of Phelps' butt. Even Holds.
#180: B/C Steph and Riia shouldn't have ganged up on me.
#181: B/C Get down with yo' bad self - thus spake Super Guru *grin*
#182: b/c Michelle doesn't know what she's gotten herself into *smirk*
#183: because Cookie stoled my name, so I ate her. *evil!smirk*
#184: B/C Riia's gone to bed, Steph's not here, and I can't think
#185: because i flove the cool ones named sarah and catch. *hug*
#186: b/c we're Sweet Child&Rocket Queen, and we want a Slaxl reunion!
#187: because we have needs!
#188: B/c you betta checkity check yoself before you wreckity wreck yoself, michelle!
#189: Just opening to avoid having my name in the title.
#190: Now that McGosling's back, we want Adam&Rachel next!
#191: Cookie's flying to China to steal gold medals
#192: Because I want a title without anyone's name in it.
#193: because everyone wants a kiss from Joe Anderson *nods* even michelle
because Steph, Stepanie, Stephy is ultimately dead to me
#195: Enter if you're sexy.
#196: I'm gonna punch Michelle in the ovary :evilsmirk:
#197: Why don't you put on your Raspberry Beret and hop in your Little Red Corvette?
#198: You shut your mouth when you're talking to me!
#199: b/c we hate mean coaches, sprained fingers, and girls who steal our men
#200 b/c 200 threads of annoying the snot out of Holden!
#201: B/c boys are stupid, throw rocks at them!
#202: Because I f'love Steph, Tay, Stina, and Sarah for not opening.
#203: Because everyone but Sarah passes out at the sight of blood Wusses!
#204: You are a smelly pirate hooker!
#205: Because we're all hiding something. A secret brownie recipe, perhaps?
Rhinestones (OT) #206: Take me to Pleasure town!
#207 - Harley will not change the title dammit! *pout*
#208 - Dancing to "Out Tonight" in heels? Nope, not the best idea...
#209 - Catch knows something you dont
#210 - Holden's no help at all, but I'm glad to be posting!
#211: Because Tay left me here with a title that's too long
#212: Because ranting helps our anger mangement
#213: Because Sarah wants everyone to know her name is pasta
#214: because Mel is like a jack-in-the-box, always popping in and out
#215: So we're too lazy to think of a title. Sue us.
#216: because stay away from da bad side, Axl's crazy hair will mess you up!
#217: Because we're drawing a big, fat blank.
#218: Because Harley's a freaky stalker who doesn't want to buy shirts
#219: Don't make me use your middle name!
http://www.fanforum.com/f258/rhinest...ehee-62857105/
#221: Cause SDF is too lazy to figure out how to open a thread
#222: b/c sarah nor riia can't force me into a triple shotgun wedding!
#224: Cause Sarah asked for a title *smirk*/
#225: because you're not allowed to post here unless you help by contributing titles
#226 : B/c strippers, drugs, and pedophiles make for an interesting Tuesday afternoon
#227: being away is getting punished by opening a thread *rolleyes*
#228: Because we should just chain Holden to her computer
#229: Cleaning? Nope, never heard of it.
#230: Effective Immediately: it is illegal to leave us for long periods of time
#231: because we win at life! YAYAYAYAYA!!
#232: because Holden shouldn't wear shorts outside =P
#233: because no Tay isn't violent...now take that back before Tay stabs you! *glare*
#234: Apparently everyone is too lazy to open new threads
#235: b/c a title aint a title without Holden's name in it
#236: Because x-(x*(x-(x-1))) = NYC!
#237: because doing nothing always doing something
#238: cause we rarely have anything else do
#239: Because nobody's here to think of a title, so it'll be this crappy one
#240: "Freddy what do you like to do?" "I dunno, burn stuff?"
#241: "because Tross is the new Zanessa"
#242: because having shinggles is painful
#243: Hey Wildcat! *gigglesmirk* *runs off*
#244: Anyone notice these titles get weirder and weirder?
#245: because NO! We won't make out with you! Ewww!!!
#246: the femur bone's connected to the tibio-fibula bone...frogs and their bones I tell yah.
#247: Fire fire fire fiery fiery fire. Ooh pretty hot fire. It's the bestest toy ever!
#248: because Tay can't tell anyone about Ross until Izzikins gets on MSN! *glare*

#249: ... New thread *tada* ... ohh btw WE ARE SUPER HEROES
#250: Thinking of titles gives me a headache...
#251: b/c everyone loves fried zucchini *wink wink*
#252: Cause diets be damned, we want cookies!
#253: Resisting Cookies & Cheesecake Takes Willpower
#254: There's nothing like a Muppet movie during Christmas
#255: because life sucks and then you die
#256: because apparently biting your siblings is bad, who knew?
#257: because we declare this thread open! {no "real" title needed}
#258: Cause Holden says 09 is sucky already. *pout*
#259: Cause happy name day rii! (only 1.5 months late)
#260: because apparently everyone forget we needed a new thread!
#261: because Rachael made Tay open, haha Pickles haha!
#262: Because the Rhinestones ain't the same without Holden.
Rhinestones #263: Because this thread is slower than molasses, in winter, when Holden is gone
#264: Sorry all cats out there, but you should really stop giving people allergic reactions.
#265: Cause finals suck. End of story.
#266: because life suck. the end.
#267: because some obsessions are like creeper stalkers. Goodbye, Horses.
#268: because I haven't opened a thread in a long time
#269: Because someone has to root for the bad guys
#270: Because time flies when we are having fun
#271: because Hannibal Lecter is my newest BFF, don't mess with me or I'll sic him on you!
#272: Because Pickles is from Texas and loves to eat pickles
#273: Cause Taylor is on a mission to get me into country music
#274: Cause Sarah and Riia are evil. The end.
#275: Coz Holds, I'll be nice and won't put your name here. Whoops.
#276: B/c Holden's in the title for the bajillionth time!
#277: Because Becca wants a new job. Who's hiring?
#278: Because apparently neither Riia or Sarah realized we needed a new thread :-P
#279: Holden + Premiere + Zac Efron + Scissors = Haircut
#280: Because maybe we're really really paranoid
#281: Because even though we both speak English things still get lost in translation! *goof*
#282: Cause I will gladly spend time with my "physical therapist". Just tell me a time and place.
283: Cause Tay was to busy slapping people for others to realize a new thread was needed!
284: Why does doing nothing all day still make you tired?
285: Because that woman on SNL is definitely not my mother LOL
286: Because having vertigo is the worst thing you can ever have!
287: Because 'brownouts' have nothing to do with pants. *goof*
288: Because being a bum is really a full time job!
289: Because... we really needed a title. LOL
290: Because getting her iPhone back was the start of Tamy opening threads! Woo!
291: Because Liv, Dany and Marine are bullying Tamy *sob...
#292: Because craziness is waaaaay better than boredom!
293: because I guess everyone was too lazy to open a new thread && think up a title!.
294: b/c because we should just throw RL in a trashcan and log on to FF!
295: b/c who needs jobs? They are so overrated!
296: b/c clubbing is the best way to end a boring workful week
297 b/c don't be decieved by their cute innocent acts! Little kids = terrors
#298: Because Catch volunteered Holden to open a new thread but Dany had to do it!!!!
#299: b/c life would be so much easier if I were an only child.
#300: b/c some of us think working out is fun,and the others would rather sit on pins than do it
#301: Because Sam is taking us to France... or not *pout*
#302: because not having MTV sucks! *pout* *bawl*
#303: Because everyone loves a HBIC
#304: because no I will not shut up, thank you very much!
#305: Because who needs RL when you can have a Rhinestones party?
#306: Because yes, of course we're awesome! Who else gets to twinkle on a giant V? *smirk*
#307: because Liv sent us a postcard from Prague
#308: because Holden is not around and she really should
#309: because Liv was asking for it. *smirk*
#310: because we just KNOW that Holden will love this title
#311: because we tap dance to entertain
#312: Because Abby, Rini and Holden just deserved it! *runs away*
#313: b/c Tamy&Marine think Liv should stop putting Holden in titles and use Lisa instead*smirk*
#314: b/c Tamyness = a religion that Quel&Ambs, Liv&Holden support!
#315: b/c one title, two title, three title, four... I declare a Holden war!
#316: because you really don't want to lose your title virginity around here!
#317: Because we are definitely not antisocial, we have friends... on here!
# 318: Because if RL is RL then it sucks! If RL is FF then it;s great!
#319: b/c movies are awesome, but they're even better if someone else pays!
#320: b/c losing your sibling isn't that bad, is it?
#321: because Amber should learn how to use her phone calendar
#322: Because I hope Jordyn doesn't regret volunteering to be in the title!
#323: b/c bring the Barbies back! You know you want to!! *smirk* (btw holden is not here right?!)
#324: b/c Liv really should be around when its title time
#325: b/c we come together and unite
#326: b-c lisa wanted her name title shrug
#327: b/c vanessa loves us like she does milkshake fries
#328: b/c California is calling us loud and clear!
#329: b/c least my name isn't in the title! (BTW-Hi Tamy & Dany!)
#330: b/c the doctor prescribed daily visits to FF as well as vitamins
#331: because wiggling is the solution to our boredom
#332: Ice lolly, icey pole, popsicle. Whatever the name, they are gooood!
#333: Because what is wrong with eating pasta everyday?
#334: b/c I am unbelievably, indescribably awesome. Period. *cough* *look*
#335: Because ice cream cake is good for your soul... just not your teeth
#336: b/c we know an Audi could be the solution to reduce car accidents
#337: B/c Quel&Tamy&Abby&Amber&Nel&Holds love Liv so much they cant wait for her to be back!
#338: because lots of little kids running around screaming isn't my idea of fun.
#339: because I don't care if you say hair grows back, I still have to wear it!
#340: b/c why do Aussies wake up when we have to go to bed?
# 341: B/c we're with Vanessa right now, please leave a message after the tone!
#342: B/c Lisa wishes she could take you ALL to Spain...but she can't
#343: B/c we asked the title Guru for titles and he said he didn't have one!
#345: b/c we are going to solve the Australia timezone problem!
#346: Because "can't I make you understand, you're having delusions of grandeur!"
#347: Because Catch is finally opening a new thread..and no, there is no nemo involved
#348: Because Lais, Liisa, and Jess love Ryan Reynolds, and you should too!
#349: Because some people are just so adorable with a ball and bat
#351: because carol said purple grapes are the best not the green ones
#352: b/c we all need a massage from a drunken man, we just don't know it yet.
#353: B/c I don't have a title so HOLDEN - let's make it 47. Aren't you awesome! *smirk*
#354: B/c as tempted as I am... I'd like to think I'm nicer than a certain someone *smirk*
# 355: Because she insists on putting her name in the title, but I'm not going to
#356: Because we are celebrating.....Liv's back! YAY!
#357: Because it's us against the world
# 358: because Tamy should know we love her!
#359: b/c big boobs are not such a good thing. Trust us!
#360: Because Fanforum is a place to stop you from going insane.
#361: b/c smilies wars are the best...especially with Tess smilies
#362: b/c Tamy isn't posting another pic of her, whether it be hair or not! *pout*
#363: b/c Because OT thread or not, Vanessa is still in our hearts, souls & minds! (Detectives FTW!)
#364: b/c it's Lisa's birthday, so we thought we'd give you a special gift. *cough*
#365: Because just about anything works on this thread, so yeah, this is our title
#366: Because everyone disappear when it's time for a new thread
#367: b/c it was title time and nobody came up with something awesome like me!!
#368: because Molly and Bee, how could you be so heartless?
#369: b/c I tried bribing with flowers... and still nothing
#370: b/c Viva la Revolutiona!!!!... or hello ff people!
#371: b/c Rach accidentally threw her sunglasses in the dumpster =(
#372: B/c the new thread problem and who opens is always the first issue which makes people disappear
#373: because Antarctica is where its at
#374: B/c Holden knew what would happen when she logs off (btw a big hug to msn: Tamy,Abby,Carol)
Rhinestones (OT) #375: b/c hurricanes in Halifax? What is the world coming to?
#376: Because Holden wanted 'The Person Who Cannot Be Named' in the title, instead she's in it. *smirk*
#377: because it sucks losing your title!virginty, doesn't it Lissia? *smirk*
#378: Because Tamy is going to harass all of the MODs *smirk*
#379: B/c FF is one hot mess, how are we supposed to function without it?
#380: b/c Boooo, you're all sooo lazy girls! *nono*
#381: because we are who we are and we can't change that...
#382: b/c Waking up at 7am is not acceptable, especially not on vacation
#383: b/c is there such a time as too early to go to bed?
#384: b/c there is no greater torture than having your braces tightened
#385: b/c paper cuts on the forehead are not fun!
#386: because I would never be mean and put somebody's name in the title against their wishes
#387: because we're all GLEEks at heart!
#388: because we were told 'go crazy at Stones'
#389: b/c needing a new thread is the best way to clear an OT thread.
#390: b/c we didn't have a title...again
#391: Cause fangirling is seriously tiring
#392: 'Cause having '500 days of Summer' makes us shine with 'Glee'
#393: because instruction manuals need to give better instructions
#394: because starting work at 7AM on a Saturday is not cool.
#395: because group projects are the devil
#396: because we can't help drooling over guys on movies and be disapointed in the end...They die!!!
#397: b/c Yvonne is back, which makes us happy; it's a day of celebrating in the 'Stones.
#398 ~ Because the task of coming up with a Rhinestones title is... oh a butterfly!
#399 ~ b/c it takes true talent to always be around when a new thread needs to be opened...or bad luck
#400 ~ Because 400 threads of randomness and we're still going strong!
#401 ~ because here happens find awesome people
#402 ~ The more languages to learn, the more headaches we get
#403 ~ Warning : sick people around
#404 ~ again our imagination couldn't bring us to invent an amazing title *eyeroll*
#405: Because we didn't even realise we needed a title! Silly us!
#406: Because Meltem was too lazy and Tess went hyper! Reply to Thread
#407: Because HOW DARE YOU! HOW DARE YOU PASS THE SALT! I'M IN A BOX!
# 408: Because I'm not a title-machine *pout*
#409: b/c why cant every man be like Tom Hanks in Sleepless in Seattle
#410: b/c of course fanforum have to be cruel when I'm opening!*irked*
#411: The only good thing about migraines is getting to skip work because of them!
#412: b/c a dog dressed as a pumpkin is weird, but my sister didn't believe me
#413 because we're suffering from Glee withdrawals! *pout*
#414: because 'RAWR, I'm a fewocious lion' *giggles*
#415: because RL should know that fangirl time is important
#416: because Santa loves us *smirk*
#417: Because the sky is blue and the sun is yellow.
#418: 'Coz 'Four for you Glen Coco! You go Glen Coco!'
#419: b/c old posters need to come and visit us more often
#420: b/c we love when people visit just to be social
#421: Because here we really talk about EVERYTHING
#422: Because people really must not like opening threads.
#423: Because for months no glee seriously tragic
#424: b/c it's Vanessa's 21st b-day
#435: Because there's nothing worse than having work around Christmas time!
#426: b/c Christmas cleaning is stopping us from fangirling! *gasp*
#427: b/c 3 sleeps 'til the big fat man gives you your presents & steals the beer!
#428: Cause work at 5AM on Christmas Eve definitely sounds like a downer to me!
#429: because it's not that we like to own the pages.. *look*
#430: because yes, I love the S6...problem with it?

#431:because-goodbye-2009-hello-2010-a-62932391/index20.html
#432: b/c we want to visit Alabama because Jake is sexy
#433: Because clearly certain people need to visit more often.
#434 Take it from me, grilled cheese when you just got your wisdom teeth out is a bad idea
#435: B/C Sunday is a possibility for fangirls squeal red carpet ZV please
#436: Because FF is a piece of crap, WORK PROPERLY DAMMIT! [/RANT]
#437: Because we all avoid title time like plague.
#438: Because we're waiting for our prince charming, who brings us titles too.
#439: because reading Dear John has gotten us excited for the movie!
#440: because it's not like everybody has the same avi *look*