Battlestar Galactica - BSG 4x09 - "The Hub" Episode Discussion

***Strider*** · 06-05-2008, 08:50 PM

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Episode is scheduled to air on 6/7/08, Friday at 10pm EST on the sci-fi channel. This is episode 9 of 10 in the first part of S4.

Official Sci-fi brief description of The Hub
In pursuit of the enemy's resurrection hub, a misfit team of viper pilots and cylon rebels become uneasy collaborators as they formulate a battle plan. Meanwhile president Roslin remains a captive of the rebel cylons.

**crazy_diamond** · 06-06-2008, 05:13 AM

I CANNOT WAIT to see this eppy

=-Kathy-> · 06-06-2008, 07:47 AM

If you plan to watch the scifi sneak peek it is not 10 min. Only about 3 minutes with commercials, "previously on BSG", etc.

You can see the same 1:43 min video clip outside of North America here:
Battlestar Galactica Clip - Hub

With the video clip and the brief flashes of scenes from the eopside it looks like it's going to be fantastic.

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**~*Nikki*~** · 06-06-2008, 05:50 PM

I'm hoping for Lucy to return tonight. I cannot wait for this one, especially after last week's lackluster episode.

Subject · 06-06-2008, 08:06 PM

I knew it wasn't Roslin!

The only real thing to say is a question. Why was 3 so concerned with the life of Baltar?

Also, next week.....

Looks amazing! Finally everything will be known!

**BehrItAll** · 06-06-2008, 08:43 PM

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Why was 3 so concerned with the life of Baltar?

Because she got attached to him. They had a relationship.
They went to the Eye of Jupitar together.

I was really into Helo's story. Being freaked out that that 8 took his wife memories. Seeing all the 8's bodies in the Hub and then feeling bad about nuking it.

I knew D'Anna was playing a mind game with Laura.
I LOVED when she snapped Cavil's neck

Laura's visions during the jumps were eerie. I was happy to see the scripture lady back. I forgot her name.

Next week's looks frakking awesome!

Subject · 06-06-2008, 09:26 PM

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Because she got attached to him. They had a relationship.
They went to the Eye of Jupitar together.

Right..... but forget the fact that she tortured him like what only 1 episode before they went to the Eye of Jupiter together. Where she saw the faces of the final 5 and said she was sorry to one of them.....

Oh, and Alex... I know you going to go on about how Roslin should have let him die and how sad you are that he survived...

To you! ....hmmm.... This episode also got me thinking maybe Roslin isn't the dying leader but Baltar is....

**crazy_diamond** · 06-07-2008, 05:04 AM

OMG what an eppy, I

, oh I did and also my heart is jumping up and down, A/R

First off I loved seeing Ilosha back, and it was interesting with her being Laura's subconsince, also seeing may be into the future with possibly maybe Laura dying. I did say OMG roughly the same time as Laura did in the teaser. I think I was saying it every couple of minutes during that tease, I didn't know what the hell was going on lol.

So much to discuss, so bare with me as I might go off in a tangent. First off I was

at Balter trying to talk to the hybrid, so funny and Laura completley ignoring him. I really liked the Helo/Laura scenes, mainly because I think we don't see enough of these two on screen together. I did love how Laura called Helo on just because you are married to a cylon, doesn't mean that they are all like that, which I totally agree on. Nice to see Boomer/Athena there, well traces of Athena.

Going back to the flashbacks, it was good to see Kara and Lee there (even though Lee is a tool at the moment). I did love Ilosha's view on what Laura needs/wants, it was realy good to see and I was

at Laura's comment that if Ilosha was her subconscious she has a high opinion of herself.

Good to see Deanna back and she didn't much about much, killing Cavil right off the bat, no what is really intriging is now is she going to blab the final five once she gets back onto Galactica, and will Tigh, Sam, Chief and Tory try to bump her off. I was just shouting NO NO when Deanna said Laura was the final one, but then when she said she wasn't, I just thought Deanna, dont' do that again!!.

I loved the battle sequences, really pucker as per usual, now the Cylons are basically like the good ol' humans. What the heck though will happen to them now, what will the fleet do?

Now I must admit I'm not much a fan of Balter, but I really liked him in this eppy, the talk with the cylon was LOL and the Laura/Balter scenes where he was dying were powerful. Balter finally confessing to Laura what he had done at the very beginning of the show and also Laura realising what she had done and saved Balter's life. Amazing stuff.

Now the end scene, OMG *diez*, I loved that Laura knew that Galactica was her home and Ilosha telling her she should love and then telling her home might be closer than that and then Bill came into view and the basestar jumped back to the co-ordinates where he was and the A/R ending

Amazing eppy and so can't wait til the next eppy, Bill/Laura better get some rack time

and what will Deanna do and more importantly who is the final cylon and what will the 4 do?

This show is the BOMB!!,

lancer1993 · 06-07-2008, 05:56 AM

I'm still waiting for this one as the *cough* was late but I read that we find out the last Cylon, first I don't what to know who it is but I need to know do we find out who it is?

=-Kathy-> · 06-07-2008, 06:50 AM

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I'm still waiting for this one as the *cough* was late but I read that we find out the last Cylon, first I don't what to know who it is but I need to know do we find out who it is?

Yes and no.

D'Anna makes a comment "And you didn't know you were a cylon?" or something like that. Then after the startled look on the person's face D'Anna laughed as if it were a joke. But I think it wasn't.

=-Kathy-> · 06-07-2008, 07:22 AM

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First off I loved seeing Ilosha back, and it was interesting with her being Laura's subconsince, also seeing may be into the future with possibly maybe Laura dying.

I did love Ilosha's view on what Laura needs/wants, it was realy good to see and I was

at Laura's comment that if Ilosha was her subconscious she has a high opinion of herself.

When Eloshia and Laura were in the vision/"place between life and death" it was all gray and washed out of color. Later in the episode we see Laura and Eloshia sitting beside the hybrid when there are a series of short jumps but I don't think they where going into the vision place. I think Eloshia is the latest "head" character/guardian angel.

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Good to see Deanna back and she didn't much about much, killing Cavil right off the bat,

One of the highlights of the episode for me. Cavil was not too smart explaining that there was a cylon civil war between the 1s, 4s and 5s against the 2s, 6s and 8s because the others objected to him boxing D'Anna. Who did he think she would side with? He explained that the others were in the process of attacking and destroying the hub so that no cylon could resurrect. It never occurred to him that D'Anna might prefer not to resurrect again. Then her line "Then this makes it all the more meaningful" (or something like that) as she snaps his neck. What an entrance back into the show. Loved it.

And Roslin was just as stupid as Cavil in her plans for using D'Anna. Roslin has confirmed to any cylons that may have doubted just how underhanded humans can be. They should have remembered that from the very beginning Roslin was a liar and could not be trusted. And it was all for nothing. Who did Roslin think she was dealing with? Not only did D'anna not tell her who the final five are but she showed her what she could do. All D'Anna has to do is tell everyone that Roslin is a cylon. Would the humans then airlock her or put her in the brig? I think D'Anna's comment about "didn't you know you where a cylon" was a threat. It was "you want to mess with me I'll play this card". Loved it.

Of course when they get back to Galactica, as we see in next episode's previews, D'Anna will not have such a position of power, but loved it this episode.

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Now I must admit I'm not much a fan of Balter, but I really liked him in this eppy, the talk with the cylon was LOL and the Laura/Balter scenes where he was dying were powerful. Balter finally confessing to Laura what he had done at the very beginning of the show and also Laura realising what she had done and saved Balter's life. Amazing stuff.

Baltar was fantastic this episode. Loved his preaching to the centurion. Another highlight of the episode for me.

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Now the end scene, OMG *diez*, I loved that Laura knew that Galactica was her home and Ilosha telling her she should love and then telling her home might be closer than that and then Bill came into view and the basestar jumped back to the co-ordinates where he was and the A/R ending

Amazing eppy and so can't wait til the next eppy, Bill/Laura better get some rack time

and what will Deanna do and more importantly who is the final cylon and what will the 4 do?

This show is the BOMB!!,

Loved Bill in this episode. Loved the Bill/Laura scene at the end. He is obviously sincere, hope she is too.

Next week's episode looks like it will be great.

**LilMouse** · 06-07-2008, 10:04 AM

My favorite parts of the night had to be the Baltar/Laura scene. Baltar was hysterical with the hybrid and the centurian.

About time Baltar confess what he did in the miniseries. But I wonder what's going to happen to him now, if Laura is going to take any kind of action.

Laura shaking after Baltar's confession was fantastic.

heroesfan23 · 06-10-2008, 06:53 PM

Yeah, Baltar and the Centurion was the highlight for me

Never really been a fan of him, but he does get some great scenes

***Strider*** · 06-10-2008, 08:13 PM

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Oh, and Alex... I know you going to go on about how Roslin should have let him die and how sad you are that he survived...

To you! ....hmmm.... This episode also got me thinking maybe Roslin isn't the dying leader but Baltar is....

So far my heroes of BSG S4. The guy who tried to cut his throat, the marine that beat the crap out of him, and Laura Roslin...for pulling that band-aid out and letting him bleed. Baltar can not suffer enough as far as I'm concerned.

If there is any justice, he will die before the series ends. If he is somehow made into a "jesus" figure and a good guy, I will burn all my BSG DVD's and resign as mod. Simple as that

How do you like that Mike

Nikki

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I'm hoping for Lucy to return tonight. I cannot wait for this one, especially after last week's lackluster episode.

I think "The Hub" more than made up for "The Episode I could have done without" the week before

Lucy was awesome. I'm glad they got her back for a few episodes

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was really into Helo's story. Being freaked out that that 8 took his wife memories. Seeing all the 8's bodies in the Hub and then feeling bad about nuking it.

Steph, I'm with you. I think in a big episode like this, when you got the battle for D'Anna, struggle between rebel cylons and humans, the whole subplot with Laura and the "Ghosts of Christmas Past moments with Elosha", the re-unification of Adama and Laura, the identity of the final cylon...amongst all of those things...the Helo storyline was my favorite to follow. There is something so fundamentally awesome about Karl C. Agathon. He is just a damn good human being. One that will give you the shirt of his back, just don't try and take it...b/c he's a fighter too

***Strider*** · 06-10-2008, 08:24 PM

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First off I loved seeing Ilosha back, and it was interesting with her being Laura's subconsince, also seeing may be into the future with possibly maybe Laura dying. I did say OMG roughly the same time as Laura did in the teaser. I think I was saying it every couple of minutes during that tease, I didn't know what the hell was going on lol.

Easily one of the best teasers so far in S4.

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So much to discuss, so bare with me as I might go off in a tangent. First off I was

at Balter trying to talk to the hybrid, so funny and Laura completley ignoring him. I really liked the Helo/Laura scenes, mainly because I think we don't see enough of these two on screen together. I did love how Laura called Helo on just because you are married to a cylon, doesn't mean that they are all like that, which I totally agree on. Nice to see Boomer/Athena there, well traces of Athena.

Good observations. It was much needed humor...the shouting scene with the Hybrid, and Baltar talking to the centurion. Such a heavy episode (like most weeks), but they basically exterminated a race (almost) of the cylons. So the light hearted moments were good to see. I enjoyed the special effects with Baltar and the Centurion.

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Good to see Deanna back and she didn't much about much, killing Cavil right off the bat, no what is really intriging is now is she going to blab the final five once she gets back onto Galactica, and will Tigh, Sam, Chief and Tory try to bump her off. I was just shouting NO NO when Deanna said Laura was the final one, but then when she said she wasn't, I just thought Deanna, dont' do that again!!.

D'Anna snapping Cavil's neck was brilliant. Not quite as shocking as it could have been, as we saw it in the teaser the week before.

That's obviously the big question, other than the identity of the final cylon. Will D'Anna reveal to someone on Galactica who the final cylons are and out them to the humans? Knowing D'Anna, you know she will do something damaging.

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I loved the battle sequences, really pucker as per usual, now the Cylons are basically like the good ol' humans. What the heck though will happen to them now, what will the fleet do?

Excellent Special effect shots in the space battle. I would have loved to see more dogfighting, not so much intercut with the emotional stuff going on, but that was the director's choice I guess.

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Now I must admit I'm not much a fan of Balter, but I really liked him in this eppy, the talk with the cylon was LOL and the Laura/Balter scenes where he was dying were powerful. Balter finally confessing to Laura what he had done at the very beginning of the show and also Laura realising what she had done and saved Balter's life. Amazing stuff.

Honestly, I'm glad that Laura didn't kill Baltar b/c it would have done a great disservice to her character. As much as I think Baltar should die and pay the ultimate price for his betrayals and lies, that was not the way to die. Not even for a traitor.

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Now the end scene, OMG *diez*, I loved that Laura knew that Galactica was her home and Ilosha telling her she should love and then telling her home might be closer than that and then Bill came into view and the basestar jumped back to the co-ordinates where he was and the A/R ending

I guess what Laura was missing...was love

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Amazing eppy and so can't wait til the next eppy, Bill/Laura better get some rack time

and what will Deanna do and more importantly who is the final cylon and what will the 4 do?

This show is the BOMB!!,

Agreed. This episode was easily at least a 4 out of 5.

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I'm still waiting for this one as the *cough* was late but I read that we find out the last Cylon, first I don't what to know who it is but I need to know do we find out who it is?

They've been teasing the audience all season long. "All will be revealed"...OK well reveal it!

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D'Anna makes a comment "And you didn't know you were a cylon?" or something like that. Then after the startled look on the person's face D'Anna laughed as if it were a joke. But I think it wasn't.

Ron Moore's cruel joke on all of us, impatiently waiting for the reveal of the last cylon.

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About time Baltar confess what he did in the miniseries. But I wonder what's going to happen to him now, if Laura is going to take any kind of action.

Laura shaking after Baltar's confession was fantastic.

Yes, I was beginning that they were going to give him a "free ride" on that one. Glad they are not. I don't think Laura will remember it, she didn't seem to be herself, sadly. Even if she did, it's his word against Baltar's. No evidence...unless Caprica Six tells the truth.