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To anyone who plans on watching Deadpool 2 in theaters, please stay for the after credits. Not only is it important for the movie, but also for Vanessa's character.
What Happens To Vanessa In 'Deadpool 2'... Says Morena Baccarin, But It Might Not Be Such A Bad Thing
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Spoilers ahead. In the first 10 minutes of Deadpool 2, Vanessa, Wade Wilson's love interest in Deadpool, dies. Shockingly, she's shot by a mobster who escaped Deadpool's wrath and managed to track down his home address, attacking just when Vanessa and Wade decide they want to start a family together. It is her death that motivates Deadpool to help save the young mutant Russell, thus causing the entire plot of Deadpool 2. In other words: Vanessa is fridged, the term for when a female love interest is killed as a way to propel the male hero forward. But while actor Morena Baccarin doesn't deny that's the case for her character — "that's exactly what it is," she says — she believes that Vanessa's fridging in Deadpool 2 might not be such a bad thing.
"It's about [Wade] finding out where his heart is, and without her, he doesn't have that story," says Baccarin, speaking with Bustle over the phone a few days before Deadpool 2's release. "The film doesn't happen without her."
It's true that Vanessa's early death isn't just extra motivation for Deadpool's journey; without her death, there is no journey. Still, the character dying is undoubtedly disappointing, and Baccarin admits she was "bummed" when she first read the script. And fridging is, unfortunately, all too common in the superhero world; X-Men: Apocalypse begins with Magneto watching helplessly as his wife and daughter are murdered, while X-Men: The Last Stand ends with Wolverine killing Jean Grey, which would have undoubtedly led to his future arc if that timeline had continued. Other films, like The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Daredevil, and The Dark Knight, have all killed female love interests in favor of advancing the male heroes' journeys, and many action movies have even used the trope as a plot device (see: Inception, every James Bond movie ever). So, it's no surprise that some audiences are frustrated seeing Vanessa gone so early in Deadpool 2.
But Baccarin points out that Vanessa's death isn't just the catalyst for Deadpool's mission in Deadpool 2. It also paves the way for the film's more emotional moments, as there's only so much over-the-top action, violent deaths, and R-rated jokes one movie can contain. And even in death, Vanessa remains the heart of Deadpool 2, appearing in scenes throughout the film to encourage Deadpool on his journey to create a new family and save a mutant child. It's a far cry from the Holiday sex montage in the first Deadpool, which saw Wade and Vanessa engaging in kinky and fairly acrobatic sex all year long.
In the sequel, Vanessa's scenes with Wade explore a new dynamic of their relationship, one more grounded in reality than the larger than life action of the rest of the film. "Though there's humor in it, it's kind of a moment of respite for the audience. A moment for them to breathe and have a pause from all the action and dive into something real," says Baccarin.
It's the shock of Vanessa's death — which Deadpool 2 naturally capitalizes on with an over-the-top opening credits montage set to Céline Dion's "Ashes" — that, Baccarin notes, sets the sequel apart from other superhero movies. "I think what's great about this movie is that it goes to all these places that people don't dare to usually," she explains. "To strip away the love interest immediately upon them being together is so devastating, and it's kind of the only way to give [Wade] such a genuine arc in the movie. So I'm glad that they were so bold, and also equally as glad that there's a way out."
That "way out" is seen in the Deadpool 2 post-credits sequence, in which Deadpool uses Cable's time traveling technology to save Vanessa from being killed. And despite the chaos and comedic nature of the post-credits sequence, Vanessa, whom Baccarin describes as "a survivor," is definitely alive and well. "Come on, they need to be together, those two. Can't take that away from him, it's too much pain," the actor says. "She's got the time machine, I'm good."
Baccarin is already looking forward to telling more of Vanessa and Wade's unique love story in the future, be it in the rumored Deadpool 3 or the X-Force movie currently in development. "I want to see what kind of super-baby these guys are gonna make," Baccarin says with a laugh. "In the next one it would be fun to jump back into the craziness." Bringing Vanessa back into the action could be a smart move for the next movie, especially if the filmmakers decide to embrace her comic book origins and make her a mutant superhero, Copycat. "I have no idea what the plan is. But it would be fun," Baccarin says of that possibility.
In the event that Vanessa isn't brought back into the action in the next Deadpool outing, Baccarin has her eyes set on another action packed franchise: James Bond. "The formula of 'girl gets taken by evil guy, hero comes rescue girl' is just old now, and people are tired of the same thing," the actor says. "In particular with the James Bond of it all... Angelina Jolie has certainly done quite a few and [there's] Atomic Blonde, where you see the kickass female. I just think that there is more of a market for it and people are anxious to keep that going... I think people are ready to see more diversity in films." And a lot less fridging.
Via: Bustle
Deadpool 2 Writers Defend Treatment of Female Characters
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Spoilers for Deadpool 2 below.
In 1999, writer Gail Simone coined one of the most enduring phrases of modern pop-culture analysis: “women in refrigerators.” Now a beloved comics writer, Simone was, at the time, just a fan and critic, and she was upset about a recent Green Lantern story line. It had featured GL’s girlfriend being murdered and stuffed into a refrigerator by a supervillain. Simone didn’t like writer Ron Marz’s storytelling decision, but also saw it as part of a larger phenomenon in fiction. She and her supporters felt that, all too often, female characters are killed off solely in order to give a male hero the motivation to get even. Since then, despite greater awareness of this trope, the practice of “fridging” women remains prominent in film, television, and print.
Case in point: this weekend’s Deadpool 2. In its opening minutes, the fourth-wall-breaking title character (Ryan Reynolds) watches as his lady love, Vanessa (Morena Baccarin), is killed by a vengeful gangster. The rest of the movie is powered in no small part by DP’s grief over her loss. Later, we learn that time-traveling desperado Cable (Josh Brolin) is similarly motivated, seeking lethal retribution from the person who killed his wife and daughter. Both Deadpool and Cable convey their bereavement in ways that are surprisingly touching, but the fact remains that the plot is fueled by the taking of three female souls, none of whom have much in the way of agency over their fates.
Screenwriters Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick, who co-wrote the script alongside Ryan Reynolds, admit that they could have been more cognizant about those story decisions. When asked whether they worried about being criticized for fridging Cable’s family and Vanessa, Reese tells Vulture, “I would say no, we didn’t even think about it. And that was maybe our mistake, not to think about it. But it didn’t really even occur to us.” Indeed, they weren’t aware of this genre of criticism. “We didn’t know what fridging was,” Reese says.
It didn’t have to be this way. There was a road not traveled, one with less violence toward women. “In the very first drafts of the script, Vanessa didn’t die,” Reese continues. “She ended up breaking up with Deadpool, and he was trying to earn her back. Then I think at some point somebody just said, ‘Y’know, Deadpool kind of works best when he’s had everything taken away from him, when he suffers.’ So the thought was maybe we can really, really engender great suffering for him by having his line of work be the thing that costs Vanessa her life.”
They felt comfortable with these plot points in no small part because they technically get reversed by the end of the final reel. First, Cable succeeds in averting his dark future and learns that his wife and daughter’s lives have been saved, though he has to stay in the present because his time-travel device doesn’t have any juice left in it. In a mid-credits scene, the device is powered up again and DP ventures through the time stream to right various wrongs, including preventing Vanessa’s death.
“We always had in our back pocket that we could always bring [Vanessa] back if necessary,” says Reese. “So, we ran with that. And maybe that’s a sexist thing. I don’t know. And maybe some women will have an issue with that. I don’t know. I don’t think that that’ll be a large concern, but it didn’t even really occur to us.”
Wernick hopes viewers will understand why they made the call that they did. “I would say, in our defense, the only thing that really is important, the only thing that Deadpool cares about, is Vanessa,” he says. “So if you’re doing a movie where you are trying to get Deadpool at his lowest, to take away everything from Deadpool at the very beginning, the only thing to really take away from him is Vanessa.”
He doesn’t see it as a gendered choice. “I know it wasn’t consciously sexist,” Wernick adds. “It may appear that way as the film progresses and Cable loses his family as well, but again, the desire was to give a motivation to both Cable and to Deadpool, and have it be a parallel motivation that they both lost their family, and they’re both trying to kind of find their way in the world without them.”
Both men take comfort in the fact that they think the movie is, on balance, good to its women. “I also think we definitely paid attention to trying to fill the movie with a diverse group of strong female characters, interesting, different female characters,” says Reese. “Whether it’s Domino, or Negasonic Teenage Warhead — and Vanessa, herself, obviously, is certainly that. So we’ve definitely made a point of not having this just be a testosterone-fueled thing.”
Via vulture
Vanessa Could Become Marvel’s Copycat in Future Deadpool Movie
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There are SPOILERS for Deadpool 2 below, so read ahead at your own risk. Morena Baccarin’s Vanessa isn’t in a whole lot of Deadpool 2 since she gets killed off pretty much right away, setting the tone for the sequel. The death is meant to feel real, to keep the emotional stakes high for the Merc with a Mouth. However, during a post-credits scene, Deadpool goes back in time to save Vanessa’s life, leading to a lot of questions from fans who feel that the death was cheapened and the story was jeopardized as a result. Deadpool 2 writers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick now say that she could end up being Copycat somewhere down the line.
As it turns out, Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick wanted to bring Copycat in during the first movie, but decided against it in the end. In the comics, Vanessa is a mutant who can mimic the powers of other mutants, similar to Mystique. She is also a villain, which would make for an interesting twist that could make up for Wade Wilson going back in time after Deadpool 2. Reese had this to say.
“Now we can bring her back as Copycat, and Morena (Baccarin) was very thrilled when she got the call. We got the time machine working, and you’re still alive! I knew it! It was really funny."
Rhett Reese also talked about Vanessa’s future in a separate interview, where he said that they were keeping the option of her coming back after Deadpool 2 open. It appears as if Paul Wernick and Reese have given it a lot of thought in regard to bringing Vanessa back with the powers of Copycat. And Morena Baccarin fully supports the decision. Rhett Reese explains.
“We certainly haven’t made any decisions along those lines. But we always thought that might be a fun twist for her at some point. The question is how to give her those powers without it feeling too coincidental. You have to iron out the logic if we go there. But why not? I think people would love to see Vanessa kicking ass.”
There are SPOILERS for Deadpool 2 below, so read ahead at your own risk. Morena Baccarin’s Vanessa isn’t in a whole lot of Deadpool 2 since she gets killed off pretty much right away, setting the tone for the sequel. The death is meant to feel real, to keep the emotional stakes high for the Merc with a Mouth. However, during a post-credits scene, Deadpool goes back in time to save Vanessa’s life, leading to a lot of questions from fans who feel that the death was cheapened and the story was jeopardized as a result. Deadpool 2 writers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick now say that she could end up being Copycat somewhere down the line.
As it turns out, Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick wanted to bring Copycat in during the first movie, but decided against it in the end. In the comics, Vanessa is a mutant who can mimic the powers of other mutants, similar to Mystique. She is also a villain, which would make for an interesting twist that could make up for Wade Wilson going back in time after Deadpool 2. Reese had this to say.
“Now we can bring her back as Copycat, and Morena (Baccarin) was very thrilled when she got the call. We got the time machine working, and you’re still alive! I knew it! It was really funny.”
Rhett Reese also talked about Vanessa’s future in a separate interview, where he said that they were keeping the option of her coming back after Deadpool 2 open. It appears as if Paul Wernick and Reese have given it a lot of thought in regard to bringing Vanessa back with the powers of Copycat. And Morena Baccarin fully supports the decision. Rhett Reese explains.
“We certainly haven’t made any decisions along those lines. But we always thought that might be a fun twist for her at some point. The question is how to give her those powers without it feeling too coincidental. You have to iron out the logic if we go there. But why not? I think people would love to see Vanessa kicking ass.”
Morena Baccarin could end up as Copycat in the future, but she also has eyes for another character with cat in the name, which is Catwoman. Baccarin has recently expressed interest in portraying Selina Kyle in the upcoming Gotham City Sirens. She’s no stranger to DC as she plays Lee Thompkins in Gotham and has voiced Black Canary in Justice League Unlimited. When asked about the role, she said that she has always wanted to play Catwoman. Nothing has been officially confirmed, but she certainly has the look down from the Arkham video games.
No matter what, Deadpool 2 writers Paul Wernick and Rhett Reese are fully aware of the can of worms that they opened when Deadpool used Cable’s technology to go back in time and save Vanessa’s life. The question now will be if she ends up in the X-Force movie or the next Deadpool installment. Hopefully the events of Deadpool 2 are fully embraced, leading to some weird time travel damage that carries over into the X-Men movies as well as the upcoming X-Force. You can read more about what Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick had to say about Vanessa’s future over at We Got This Covered.
