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Old 10-12-2008, 04:08 AM
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I totally love this episode!

The Rugaru part was gross but it was needed in the overall plot for Sam and Dean. As I’ve said before, this is just like “Heart” Sam believed that they can save the girl by locking her up everytime she’s about to turn into a werewolf. Just like the Rugaru, as long as he stops himself from tasting the human flesh, he also can be saved. And just like Sam, he’s got the demon blood in him, can he be saved? He thought he can make use of it in a good way.

I love how this episode showed the parallelism of Sam’s struggle with knowing he has demon blood inside of him and Jack’s struggle not to give in to his hunger. I felt like I was watching Season 1 and much more… the monster storyline was there but it was linked to their own personal struggles.

I know people will be quick to judge Sam again that he won’t keep his promise and use that power soon. Maybe Sam thought (and with the realization from Jack’s story) if he keeps using his powers, it might get to the point where he can't control them anymore so he wanted to quit it. But the question is, how far was Sam already? We don’t know what happened to him during those agonizing four months without Dean. And I believe that Sam has also been to hell himself – not literally, but his own hell without Dean. After Dean died, all he wanted was to get his hero back, to snatch him from hell. And in vain he had held on.
Sam is so broken, so lost and even if it breaks my heart to admit it, I think he felt so alone. He can’t find solace with Dean since he thinks Dean cannot understand him. So I did like the scene at the sidewalk, when Sam snapped. He thought he’s a freak for having that blood, he tried so much to do something good out of that bad omen/curse and he cannot get any support from the one person he thought he can lean on. He was trying to deal with his powers by trying to save people. Yes, he had a point when if they use the knife they are also hurting the possessed human. Poor Sam! Yes, I liked that scene and Dean couldn’t answer him back – no sarcastic, no blaming comments from him because I think (yes, I have faith in Dean, too) Dean somehow understood him. Though, I wanted to scream at Dean just to shake him to hug his brother and tell him it’s all going to be all right. Sam is scared, too, you know.

As for Dean, nope, I’m not going to side on Sam only. I completely understand Dean as well. Dean is terrified that Sammy is on a slippery slope especially after Castiel threatened to stop Sam if Dean can't. He’s afraid that Sam was just nourishing his demon powers and sooner or later it’ll also consume him (just like the Rugaru again.) And much more, Sam lied about Ruby as well. I’d be pissed as well if I were in Dean’s situation.

“If I didn't know you, I would want to hunt you.” This broke my heart – both for Sam and Dean. This means so much for Dean – which he wouldn’t dare leave him even if everything turns to chaos. And also too painful for Sam because after all, Dean is his hero.

Dean wants to save Sam as much as he can; and Sam wants to save as much people as he can. Sam thought by using his powers he can help more people; Dean thought that the way to evilness is paved with good intentions
Jensen and Jared completely blow me away! Sam’s face when he was dealing with Dean about using his power was so heartbreaking – defenseless, fearful but you could see right through him that he believes what he’s doing is the right thing. And Dean, OMG! Dean… Almost close to tears. His face was of hurt, frustration and furious. He punched Sam! I hate people punching my Sammy but I guess Dean was just too angry and upset about what he found out. Aw these two… they are making me miserable each time I watch them grow apart. But I guess, that is why I love this show - they are so real, so human, so like us – so complex!

Oh by the way, I didn’t feel a little remorse when Jack killed Travis. He’s just too ruthless and so hateful. At least Dean listened to Sammy first.

Did I just write a very long review of the episode? I’m sorry if I bored you. It’s been a while since I wrote this much about an episode of SPN. I just loved it. (And on the side note, no Castiel! after threatening Sammy last week, I’m not particularly fond of him anymore.)
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Gay -- You should write reviews more often! That was a great read! I want to quote and reply to everything! I agree with everything.

I understand Dean's pain too. It was clear he was hurting when he was saying all those things to Sammy. Like you pointed out, the "if I didn't know you, I would want to hunt you" line was OUCH!

And yes, yes, yes!! I really agree about how alone Sam feels. It's just heartbreaking. I wonder if he'll start lashing out.

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I totally agree. Mary's deal set him up for this. No matter what Sam or Dean nothing could change what was already inside him. Ya he can not use his powers but the fact that they are there and that there is demon blood in him will forever change Sam and there is nothing that Dean can do about it.
This is what makes the situation so heated, that Dean can't truly understand, but that Sam is so hard headed that he's closing off and pushing Dean away.
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Thank you Nikki I know you'll understand what I meant more than anyone in the world. I love you for that . And yes, I think Dean wants to reach out and understand him more, but Sam doesn't want to let Dean down. Having the demon blood is already a curse for him, how would he explain it to Dean? How else can he explain that he feels like a freak and that he's probably going to let Dean down just simply because he has that blood in him. It scares the hell out of Sam that somehow he'll do something evil because of it, maybe that's why he wanted to not think about it and just focus on using it for the good of other people.

I'm not saying that Sam is right in what he's doing. I'm scared for him, too. It can consume him, it's a demon blood after all. But people (and Dean) should also understand that there are people who essentially wanted to do good, and it's in their humanity even though everything around them is telling them otherwise. Say Robin Hood, say Ned Kelly... yes, these two do bad things for the good of others. Sammy is trying to do something good out of something bad. You must give props to the boy instead of hate and passing judgment too quickly. We must give the boy a break, he needed it!
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Thank you Nikki I know you'll understand what I meant more than anyone in the world. I love you for that . And yes, I think Dean wants to reach out and understand him more, but Sam doesn't want to let Dean down. Having the demon blood is already a curse for him, how would he explain it to Dean? How else can he explain that he feels like a freak and that he's probably going to let Dean down just simply because he has that blood in him. It scares the hell out of Sam that somehow he'll do something evil because of it, maybe that's why he wanted to not think about it and just focus on using it for the good of other people.

I'm not saying that Sam is right in what he's doing. I'm scared for him, too. It can consume him, it's a demon blood after all. But people (and Dean) should also understand that there are people who essentially wanted to do good, and it's in their humanity even though everything around them is telling them otherwise. Say Robin Hood, say Ned Kelly... yes, these two do bad things for the good of others. Sammy is trying to do something good out of something bad. You must give props to the boy instead of hate and passing judgment too quickly. We must give the boy a break, he needed it!
Hee! You know us.

You're sooo right. That scene in the beginning when Sam sees Dean coming, THAT was a scared face if I ever saw one. He totally panicked when he saw his brother and what it meant for them that the secret was out, that Dean knew that Sam had been using his "evil freak" powers.

Great point, Gay! Sammy said it perfectly, this thing was done to him, he can't change it so he was trying to make something good with it. Now, even if he's just fooling himself, that's what he believes and darn it, I can't blame him! Dean's death probably messed with his head more than Sam was prepared to deal with. Then there's Ruby whispering in his ear.

Dean has to hate Ruby so bad. If Sam thinks Dean will push him away, Dean feels Ruby is stealing his brother too.

It's a pretty difficuly situation, and it's good tv too. Hehe.
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I'm not saying that Sam is right in what he's doing. I'm scared for him, too. It can consume him, it's a demon blood after all. But people (and Dean) should also understand that there are people who essentially wanted to do good, and it's in their humanity even though everything around them is telling them otherwise. Say Robin Hood, say Ned Kelly... yes, these two do bad things for the good of others. Sammy is trying to do something good out of something bad. You must give props to the boy instead of hate and passing judgment too quickly. We must give the boy a break, he needed it!
I totally agree with you on that Gay, I'm so scared of where this can take Sam but I truly believe that Sam can control it. That he can take this curse and just do god with it without letting it consume him. I think that Dean should put a little bit of faith in his brother that he can control it. I think that Dean assuming this will consume Sammy isn't really going to help Sam control this. It would help if his brother was on his side
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That would an interesting twist, that Sam can control his powers and do good with them. Castiel never specified that just the use of the the powers was evil, so we'll see.
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1st i love that Sam is back, from last eppy i can say that Kripke redeem himself. for me it's a good thing that Castiel is not on this eppy. they should have more for Sam than a supporting guest star.

this is the episode that'll answer all the Y's and doubt for Sam. i just hope that all the Dean fans will get what Sam is goin' through. the demon blood is running to his veins and he can't do anything about it. and knowing Sam he'll save more people as he can hoping that in somewhat way he can be save as well. we all have to remember that he never choose to have that blood in him. and for 3 or 4 months with no Dean as his ally he choose a path that he knows will still continue to save innocent from evil. i see it as using the evil power to defeat itself, and i find it smart to do. i love this eppy coz Sam was able to express his emotion to Dean. Dean on the other hand has a point to. he is scared for his brother and he dont want to put Sam in deeper distruction knowing about Ruby. now that both brother laid it all out, i hope they'll be back side by side with no Castiel on Dean and no Ruby on Sam. it should only be Sam and Dean.

Can't wait to see the next eppy.
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i love this eppy coz Sam was able to express his emotion to Dean. Dean on the other hand has a point to. he is scared for his brother and he dont want to put Sam in deeper distruction knowing about Ruby.
I agree! I was waiting for Sam to get a moment to speak his mind, at least have a chance to defend himself, wether he's right or wrong.
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That would an interesting twist, that Sam can control his powers and do good with them. Castiel never specified that just the use of the the powers was evil, so we'll see.
Ya I wonder what Castiel would think if Sam was controlling them and doing only good. Would that make a difference to him?
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Good question Nat Well, I'm not sure how angels should react to a generally good person having a bad blood and I certainly don't know how he should react to Sammy doing good out of a bad blood. It's going to be interesting if Sam meets Castiel.

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I agree! I was waiting for Sam to get a moment to speak his mind, at least have a chance to defend himself, wether he's right or wrong.
Yep, I did like this too. Especially if Dean doesn't know what's going on inside his mind. If Dean cannot understand him, I guess Sammy just had to speak his mind. In this way, they'll be open to each other.
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Sammy is using his abilities from the demon to do good, and that really matters. and when things comes to an end i expect Dean to side with Sam on this. Casteil may not favor on Sam but Dean should stick with his bro and i know he will.
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Sammy is using his abilities from the demon to do good, and that really matters. and when things comes to an end i expect Dean to side with Sam on this. Casteil may not favor on Sam but Dean should stick with his bro and i know he will.
I'm sure that if Sam can control his powers (which I know he will) that Dean would have no reason not to side with him. I would be disappointed if it came down to it and Dean was on Castiel's side.
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I want to beleive that he can control his powers. Although, there's something in me that says he won't be able to. Maybe because it can add more involvedness with the entire storyline.
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I want to beleive that he can control his powers. Although, there's something in me that says he won't be able to. Maybe because it can add more involvedness with the entire storyline.
Ya of course we want to believe that Sammy can do anything but I think for the storyline they won't want it to be that easy
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I agree! I was waiting for Sam to get a moment to speak his mind, at least have a chance to defend himself, wether he's right or wrong.
I am glad about it also. It helps hopefully everyone to understand him better.
It is late to write to this episode but I was only to day able to see it. Here are my thoughts for all who are still interested in it.

OH MY GOD! I love all the brother love scenes in this one. The B-Story was so gross and when the guy was eating it was so gross and all...ewwww.

I have read all of the comments and I can understand that so much of you feel sorry for Dean and I am, too, of course, but for me it shows how much Sam has suffered in the last four months. I will be always a Samgirl and I am on his side in this one.

I agree with the person you wrote that the psychic power isn´t only a bad thing. I can´t understand why the angels and God are so against it. Because of it, more innocent people survive. So I can´t see why Sam has to stop it. Yes it is a dangerous road and maybe I could turn Sam evil but when Dean would be around to look after him - I can see that it maybe would work.

In the hotelscene Sam was so shocked when Dean told him that God was against it. And yes Dean was angry because Sam was lying to him and I can understand him and maybe the punches were deserved but I have a problem with Dean´s leaving wish.
Dean went to hell for Sam but loosing Dean was hell for Sam, too. And Dean couldn´t stand living a day without him and brought him back. Sam had four months without Dean. He was so lost and hit rock bottom after Dean went to hell. He was and is still feeling guilty for not saving his brother and the hunting was the only thing that kept him alive, I believe. But with no Dean on his side he had to find a way to make it work without him. And with saving so many innocent people his life became meaningful again. And you can´t tell me that if Dean was in Sam place that he wouldn´t go after Lilith after everything that happened.
And now Deans comes back and criticize everything Sam has done in these four months without talking to him why he did it. He wants to leave him again and let this evilRuby play her game with him. It looks like he gave up on him at least from Sam POV. I know that it couldn´t be more far way from the truth but for Sam it must have look like this and it really hurts him badly.

And I can understand Sam in the car fighting scene. It almost broke my heart. I know that Dean doesn´t do it on purpose but sometimes he looks or talk to him like he want to say I am freaked out what you have become or what you will become. And Dean is not right when he denies it. Dean tries really hard to hide these thought or sorrow but he doesn´t always succeed. And now imaging Deans reaction if Sam tells him that he has Demonblood in him. Sam was so scared that his brother would look at him in this before mentioned way that he didn´t tell him. He is scared to loose his brother good opinion of him and that he will love him less then before. His father abandon him when he wasn´t the way he wanted him to be and so he is scared to lose the only family member he has left and you he loves with all of his heart.

It is as if Dean is complaining about Sam moving on. It was the only way which worked for him to get over Dean and that he couldn´t save him no matter what he tried or with who he handle about it.

Don´t get me wrong I don´t blame Dean that he is scared of what Sam might be become but why would he left him, when he is so scared of him. Fortunately he decided to stay and after the car fight I hope that he understands Sams POV a little better.

I like to compare these two with Frodo and Samwise from Lord of the rings. With Frodo beeing Sam and Samwise beeing Dean. Frodo couldn´t make it without Samwise and he knows it and so does Sam. And Samwise was always there for Frodo except the one time he thought he was dead and left him. And look what becomes of Frodo when Samwise left him and he is under the impression of Gollum which would be Ruby. He memorize what Gandalf told him that he should never leave Frodo and when he realise it and went after him it turns out ok. So Deans part in this is to love his brother no matter what and help him to stay human and making him less feeling like a monster.

And exactly that was missing when he tried to leave him in the hotelroom and when he talked to him in the car the way he did it.

Their last scene in the car when he tries to understand Sam and apologize that he was to hard on him is exactly what Sam needs and not one who blames him for what he is or what he can do.
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