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Old 05-26-2008, 06:36 PM
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Ok I'm a little late but I wanted to share this with you...

I think Derek makes a slip when he talks to Rose. Actually it seems he doesn't speak with her, he is in his thoughts.

I'm never good enough. No matter what I say or what I do. I never wanted to do this. This clinical trial is making me a failure. I fail her over. and over. and over.

He thinks he failed with her. He accepted the trial because he wanted to prove her something. But he thinks he lost her, again, and he is really sad.
I think he needs that Meredith makes the next step in their relationship because he can't.
I don't know if he realizes he has issues, but now he has no excuses anymore, he can be happy with Meredith.

Ok, it's not totaly what we expected because we wanted to see him making this step but it's more realistic in that way. The roles are reversed.

- Derek used to make beautiful speech = Meredith makes the beautiful speech this times.
- Derek wanted a dreamhouse = Meredith builds him a house of candles.
- Meredith asked him to wait for her = Derek asked her to wait for him.
- Meredith resloved her issues = Derek starts to have a clear conscience.


Their patient, Jeremy, gave them doubts.
Their patient, Beth, gave them hope.
It was very symbolic.
They can be a couple now. They needed to find each other again, why "you changed my life".

They succeeded TOGETHER.
I understand what this means. I realised when he said 'wait for me' at the end was what Meredith said when she was fighting for him.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:42 PM
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Ok I'm a little late but I wanted to share this with you...

I think Derek makes a slip when he talks to Rose. Actually it seems he doesn't speak with her, he is in his thoughts.

I'm never good enough. No matter what I say or what I do. I never wanted to do this. This clinical trial is making me a failure. I fail her over. and over. and over.

He thinks he failed with her. He accepted the trial because he wanted to prove her something. But he thinks he lost her, again, and he is really sad.
I think he needs that Meredith makes the next step in their relationship because he can't.
I don't know if he realizes he has issues, but now he has no excuses anymore, he can be happy with Meredith.

Ok, it's not totaly what we expected because we wanted to see him making this step but it's more realistic in that way. The roles are reversed.

- Derek used to make beautiful speech = Meredith makes the beautiful speech this times.
- Derek wanted a dreamhouse = Meredith builds him a house of candles.
- Meredith asked him to wait for her = Derek asked her to wait for him.
- Meredith resolved her issues = Derek starts to have a clear conscience.


Their patient, Jeremy, gave them doubts.
Their patient, Beth, gave them hope.
It was very symbolic.
They can be a couple now. They needed to find each other again, why "you changed my life".

They succeeded TOGETHER.
omg, i never realized this before, thanks for explaining it!
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:54 AM
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Ok I'm a little late but I wanted to share this with you...

I think Derek makes a slip when he talks to Rose. Actually it seems he doesn't speak with her, he is in his thoughts.

I'm never good enough. No matter what I say or what I do. I never wanted to do this. This clinical trial is making me a failure. I fail her over. and over. and over.

He thinks he failed with her. He accepted the trial because he wanted to prove her something. But he thinks he lost her, again, and he is really sad.
I think he needs that Meredith makes the next step in their relationship because he can't.
I don't know if he realizes he has issues, but now he has no excuses anymore, he can be happy with Meredith.

Ok, it's not totaly what we expected because we wanted to see him making this step but it's more realistic in that way. The roles are reversed.

- Derek used to make beautiful speech = Meredith makes the beautiful speech this times.
- Derek wanted a dreamhouse = Meredith builds him a house of candles.
- Meredith asked him to wait for her = Derek asked her to wait for him.
- Meredith resloved her issues = Derek starts to have a clear conscience.


Their patient, Jeremy, gave them doubts.
Their patient, Beth, gave them hope.
It was very symbolic.
They can be a couple now. They needed to find each other again, why "you changed my life".

They succeeded TOGETHER.
Agree indeed
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:45 AM
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All the small pieces makes sense in the end if you really think about it.
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:44 PM
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yeah but you have to notice those pieces... I wouldn't have noticed that in all honesty
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Old 05-27-2008, 01:37 PM
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LOL Ana loves MD that much
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Old 05-27-2008, 01:44 PM
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well I'm glad she does... It makes things even more perfect.
I wonder if those were Shonda's intentions.. Maybe they weren't and it was just pure coincidence
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Old 05-28-2008, 02:33 AM
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All the small pieces makes sense in the end if you really think about it.
I love ur icon So true
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:12 AM
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yeah but you have to notice those pieces... I wouldn't have noticed that in all honesty
I noticed some of them but not of all them.
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well i guess, in some ways, listening to the podcast helps a bit too...
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Old 05-28-2008, 10:35 AM
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what was said on the podcast actually?!

Great cap! Love that moment!
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:27 PM
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Awww love the smile!
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Old 05-28-2008, 06:35 PM
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what was said on the podcast actually?!

Great cap! Love that moment!
they didn't talk much about MD, but the overall episode, like how the color of the shirt that the casts were wearing symbolizes the atmosphere of that scene, like whether it is a happy scene or not, those kind of stuff.
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:07 AM
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the shirts matched that?! Seriously?! I did notice that Mer wore a really bright color in that final scene... but I didn't think there was a thought behind it.. Cool fact..
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