Patrick Dempsey - Derek/Addison McMarrieds thread #1: 'Because 11 is their number' - Page 7

lyssie88 · 09-27-2006, 10:37 AM

She came for Derek, she wanted to also before the Chief called her, but she was scared! And I can understand that considering how Derek was upset (flashback).
She was really sorry and a chance to prove it was all she was asking for. And after 11 years she deserved that chance. She made a mistake, just ONE mistake, no matter how huge that mistake was...everyone deserves a second chance.

Gio Gio · 09-27-2006, 11:06 AM

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I just really disagree with everyone who thinks she came back for Derek. In my opinion, she only came to Seattle because the Chief called her and told her about Meredith. So, that's like, jealousy. That Derek found someone else. And, she's a bitch either way, because either she used/is using Mark by leading him to think she's in love with him, or she's lying to Derek about what really happened with her and Mark. So, yeah... she's lying to both men.

At least her relationship with Derek is over, so that's really all I care about.

Lis I agree with you.
Addison didn't love Derek. She cheated him with his best friend, she lived with Mark and blah blah blah. Derek loved her and she broke his heart.

mcdreamylover · 09-27-2006, 12:01 PM

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She made a mistake, just ONE mistake, no matter how huge that mistake was...everyone deserves a second chance.

So if you're boyfriend or husband cheated on you with your best friend you'd give him a second chance?

thegreenlight · 09-27-2006, 12:05 PM

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She made a mistake, just ONE mistake, no matter how huge that mistake was...everyone deserves a second chance.

It's not a mistake if you stay with the person you cheated with. I completely understand if it was a one time thing, and I'd be more willingly to agree with you, but she stayed with Mark after Derek left. That's a huge deal, in my opinion.

mcdreamylover · 09-27-2006, 02:22 PM

WORD! If it was a mistake she wouldn't have stayed with him.

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It seems she wasted no time in calling Mark in the next eppy as he's there at the hotel with her

**Eternal Flame** · 09-28-2006, 01:01 AM

I can understand that it's hard for somebody to give another somebody a second chance after cheating has occured... Though I still believe she came back for Derek, she loves Derek, she may have cheated but the past season has also shown that she loves him IMO, but IMO she came back for him. She may have decided on leaving after the case but she also gave Derek the option to take her back. She wasn't set on giving up IMO

Gio Gio · 09-28-2006, 01:20 AM

Addison wants Derek. The love is another thing. She knows Derek and his loyalty. He gave her another chance but he's in love with another woman. He tried to forget Meredith but their love is really strong.

lyssie88 · 09-28-2006, 05:10 AM

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WORD! If it was a mistake she wouldn't have stayed with him.

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It seems she wasted no time in calling Mark in the next eppy as he's there at the hotel with her

Ok here's the thing:

Derek sees Meredith at Finn's house, he thinks she had sex with him,he comes back home and he takes a hot shower with his wife just to take a revange and because he needs something that just makes him feel better.
But it's not a big deal, because he loves Meredith, no doubt. So we forgive him for using his wife.

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Addison finds out his husband cheted on her with Meredith, she calls Mark and she takes a hot shower with him. But she's a bitch who has never loved Derek and who didn't come back for him. None of you thinks she did it with Mark just for the same reasons Derek did it before.

Why?

**Eternal Flame** · 09-28-2006, 07:57 AM

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Addison wants Derek.

I think she does love him... There's not a doubt in my mind that it would be otherwise... IMO there hasn't been one real action in S2 that told me that she only uses him, or just wants him and that she doesn't love him.

I like your theory Lyssie, very interesting

Gio Gio · 09-28-2006, 08:23 AM

For me not. If you love a person you want him/her happy. She was so sure (maybe "arrogant") about Derek feelings for her.

In ep.212 Derek declared his love for Meredith to Addison. If I was Addison, I broke with him. Addison saw Derek filtring with Meredith for a whole season and then in the ep.225 she said "Derek loves Meredith"....

Both, Addison and Derek made mistakes and, Lyssie, Derek was "bad" (I didn't find an appropriate word) with both (Meredith and Addison) in the ep.223-224-225.

lyssie88 · 09-28-2006, 08:57 AM

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For me not. If you love a person you want him/her happy.

Erm...maybe you're right, but in this case Derek should do the same thing with Meredith. I mean she loved/loves her but he has never left her free to be happy with Finn for example.

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In ep.212 Derek declared his love for Meredith to Addison. If I was Addison, I broke with him. Addison saw Derek filtring with Meredith for a whole season and then in the ep.225 she said "Derek loves Meredith"....

If I was Addison I would leave him. But I'm not able to understand what is like when you're married to a man for 11 years, a whole life, spending good and bad times together.

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Both, Addison and Derek made mistakes

I think so and that's why I can't understand the reason why Addison is THE only guilty for someone here.

Gio Gio · 09-28-2006, 09:11 AM

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Erm...maybe you're right, but in this case Derek should do the same thing with Meredith. I mean she loved/loves her but he has never left her free to be happy with Finn for example.

In fact Derek made a mistake and he realized it. The difference is that Meredith loves Derek but Derek doesn't love Addison.

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If I was Addison I would leave him. But I'm not able to understand what is like when you're married to a man for 11 years, a whole life, spending good and bad times together.

Marriage is an excuse especially after the famous NY episode.. She made a mistake, she stayed with Mark, Derek met another girl (for me his true love) etc....

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I think so and that's why I can't understand the reason why Addison is THE only guilty for someone here.

Sincerly I read bad comments only about Derek and Meredith... Bad comments about Addison are rare.
I suppose many anti-Addison hate her because: she cheated Derek and now she judges him, she knows his feeling for Meredith, the panties... the list is long.

**Eternal Flame** · 09-28-2006, 10:07 AM

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The difference is that Meredith loves Derek but Derek doesn't love Addison.

I think it's kind of hard to say that, because Derek never really told how he felt about Addison... and he may love her, but perhaps he's not IN LOVE with her anymore, there's a difference IMO

lyssie88 · 09-28-2006, 10:13 AM

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In fact Derek made a mistake and he realized it. The difference is that Meredith loves Derek but Derek doesn't love Addison.

Uhm I think so, but I also think that the difference here doesn't change anything.
If you love someone you want him/her to be happy in every case, no matter what, even if she/he loves you back, because sometimes love is not enough.

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Marriage is an excuse especially after the famous NY episode.. She made a mistake, she stayed with Mark, Derek met another girl (for me his true love) etc....

I do think he loves Meredith now, she's everything for him, his new life, his new chance to be happy, but it doesn't erase his past and his marriage with Addison. Because there was a moment when they got married and they were in love, a moment when they were "Addison and Derek", the two of them against the world, and it doesn't stop to exist just because everything has changed now.
The marriage was NOT an excuse...it was the reality! Derek could sign the divorce papers, but he didn't. Why? Maybe because 11 years worth the pain to try...

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Sincerly I read bad comments only about Derek and Meredith... Bad comments about Addison are rare.
I suppose many anti-Addison hate her because: she cheated Derek and now she judges him, she knows his feeling for Meredith, the panties... the list is long

The list is long for Derek and Meredith too, I suppose.
Derek judged her during a whole season and then he did the same.
Cheating is cheating...

Gio Gio · 09-28-2006, 11:16 AM

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I think it's kind of hard to say that, because Derek never really told how he felt about Addison... and he may love her, but perhaps he's not IN LOVE with her anymore, there's a difference IMO

I don't talk about the past, in fact I wrote, in another post, that Derek loved Addiosn.

I talk about the present, after NY episode.

I saw this

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Uhm I think so, but I also think that the difference here doesn't change anything.
If you love someone you want him/her to be happy in every case, no matter what, even if she/he loves you back, because sometimes love is not enough.

Opinion.

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I do think he loves Meredith now, she's everything for him, his new life, his new chance to be happy, but it doesn't erase his past and his marriage with Addison. Because there was a moment when they got married and they were in love, a moment when they were "Addison and Derek", the two of them against the world, and it doesn't stop to exist just because everything has changed now.
The marriage was NOT an excuse...it was the reality! Derek could sign the divorce papers, but he didn't. Why? Maybe because 11 years worth the pain to try...

I talked about the present, not about the past. Now the marriage is an excuse. She made a mistake and Derek met another person.

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The list is long for Derek and Meredith too, I suppose.
Derek judged her during a whole season and then he did the same.
Cheating is cheating...

Cheating isn't cheating in this situation because Addison knew, Derek not (like Shonda wrote it exist a big difference between AM and MD episodes) but sure, you are an Addison fans and you defence her. It's normal.

Now Addek are over and personally I'm happy