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Old 02-22-2007, 03:51 PM
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3.17 - Some Kind of Miracle (Part 3 of 3) - Episode Discussion

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One person's fight to live affects everyone at Seattle Grace, in the dramatic conclusion to Grey's Anatomy's three-episode story arc.
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Ahh i cant wait for Patrick's performance tonight i might cry, lol!
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very interesting episode. it definitely got better as it went along. so much to say.

lots of things happened that i thought would. i did like seeing how everyone handled it in their own way. christina, being the most touching. sandra made me both laugh and cry tonight. GREAT stuff from her. she's sooo good.

i LOVED the addison/derek stuff, and it played out just like i thought it would. they had really good stuff, and how much she cares about him was clear as day all the way through. good stuff. it was huge to hear her admit, he never loved her like that. i just REALLY appreciated addison tonight, until the end. that whole mark thing came out of left field. i did like the alex moment with her.

izzie was out of line with callie, but callie might have trumped her with the stupid line about people around her dying. that was not a good line. VERY interesting to hear george say the bit about if he made a mistake. i did feel for izzie at the end, with george.

merideth, oh merideth. the good thing is, while i knew she gave up fighting in the water, they did a GREAT job of having her explain herself, and showing her the other side. by the end of the episode i did believe she wanted to live, and i needed to see that, in order to accept what she did.

interesting stuff while she was dead. i LOVE that it was basically denny and mer. i was extremely touched with their stuff, and his thing about izzie. i was a crying fool with the last shot of the show, between denny and izzie. i miss them.

ellis/derek was soooooooooooo good. mer and ellis had me crying. the hug and her telling her she was anything but ordinary damn near broke me. the chief/ellis? good too.



i'm still not really feeling the purple lady.

such good acting from so much of the cast tonight. it was easily the best of the 3 episodes for me.

i need to watch it again, to fully get it all though. stopping greys to watch the end of the oc did nothing for my crying.
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I so knew Meredith did it on purpose. I don't get her anymore. Suicide isn't cool, man.

The Ellis/Derek was odd. Interesting, but extremely odd. I felt so awkward when he was all touching her.

I don't really have much to say about the episode.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:12 PM
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It's not really what I thought it would be.

I do agree - as it went, it got better.

Denny was awesome. I actually miss him,

Callie was cool. What's Izzie's problem?

I loved Derek more and more.


Addison can't leave. I love her and Mark's deal.


Other then that - the episode was medium.
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it's not cool lis, and early on the mer stuff was bugging me. she was bugging me, how non chalant she was about being dead. but perhaps knowing what happened helped me too. it was written just how it was in my head.

but i honestly felt like the resolution was satisfactory. i think the point was to get her to a place where she realized death wasn't what she wanted, and i believe she did.

strange episode. i'll say this, and i wondered it before the 3 episodes started. they REALLY never need to extend themselves this much again. i think they overeached, much like this spin off silliness.

they really need to stick to what they do best, and they'll be fine.
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I agree with you guys that the episode wasn't anything spectacular. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good. It was mediocre, I suppose.

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Yeah, Izzie needs to just stop talking. She's been more annoying than usual with this whole Callie/George thing.

I think the dead Meredith scenes were the best. They were really intriguing, and I was a little confused at times, but it was good confusion. I love how they brought back Bonnie and Nurse Fallon.
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i don't think i feel like tonight was mediocre, rather the whole 3 parter. i enjoyed most of tonight.

it's funny, izzie is pretty consistent, i think ti's why it doesn't bother me. she was reaching with callie, she was but i think what george said to her was the biggest part of her stuff tonight. well, that and denny.

i agree, about the scenes being confusing and the number one reason i have to watch again. but that ended up being much better than i thought it would.
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I think it did get better as it went on!!

I agree suicide is so not cool, so i hope that you know they start sorting out meredith's issues!! Its about time too!!

merder aww that was sweet the cuddling and basically he just loves her and what was said about derek and ahh amazing!

Patrick, always makes me cry so amazing!!

Crisitna, ahh i felt so sorry for her, she was just so sad!!

Izzie i still dont get what her problem is.....? She just mean, lol!! Funnily enough denny wasmuch more tolerable with meredith, i mean i love JDM but the whole denny/izzie storyline i didn't like it but the last scene was sad!

Maddison, why does she take him back? I mean he cheated on her constantly apparently i dunno why their doing that pact thing?

PD, EP, and SO all owned their scenes tonight these 3 rock seriously and that ellis/meredith scene im so glad she got some closure from ellis, i will so miss ellis, even though she was mean, lol!! I an see why its okay for meredith because really she got the closure she needed!

Good episode tonight i LOVED all the emotion it makes greys so great!
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Interesting reviews.. Can't wait to see the ep for myself.. I'm "patiently" waiting

and a blog from ex-exec producer from Buffy

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Marti Noxon on "Sometimes a Miracle"
Original airdate: 2-22-07

A few months ago, I got a call from Shonda and Betsy Beers. I was lying on the floor when they called. I had my computer in front of me, so I was “writing”. I’d recently had lunch with Shonda and Betsy, and a few other meals with Shonda before that. So we’d hung out . We’d dined. We’d complained about… things only lucky TV people complain about. Things related to actually having jobs. Things which, by real world standards, barely even qualify as problems. But that’s why we need each other. Because we get each other, man

When the call came, despite previous eating and complaining, I was intimidated. Shonda and Betsy had created this monster hit, this highly-entertaining medical drama that millions of people watched and adored. Including me. I mean, Shonda’s kind of eerily talented -- and she knows Oprah.

But, honestly, I needed a good call. I was working on a soon-to-be Ill-fated pilot. Before that it was a brief and ill-fated stay on an otherwise successful ABC show. And before that I launched a brief and ill-fated series for Fox. And before that I worked on a… brief and ill-fated series for Fox.

We see a pattern.

Buffy was good. Can we talk about Buffy?

Problem is – Buffy was a long time ago. She lives on –- Season 8 soon to be in comic book form… But, in my nightmares, I’m 90 at a Buffy convention, and nobody wants my autograph. They’re all in line to see virtual Joss, who has invented a way to put his brain in a jar on a floaty thing, live forever and be funnier and more prolific than everybody for THE REST OF ALL TIME. I love Joss, but it’s hard being his friend.

Like I was saying. I needed a good call. And it came. Would I like to “come hang out” on Grey’s for a while? I’ll skip the part where I hung up and cried and called my agent and he cried and we all cried because, try as I might, it would be hard for me, personally, to turn Grey’s into an “ill-fated” show. Especially since I was to have a vague job title, no authority and non-specific duties.

So I hung out. For a few days it was all Christmas baskets and trying to make Shonda laugh (she was dying from iron deficiency and was too weak to lift the corners of her mouth – nobody knew that yet, so I danced like a little monkey. But more on that later). I also got to hang with the aforementioned Shonda and Betsy (so great at her job and so funny she makes me laugh until things come out of my nose); the amazing Krista Vernoff (amazing and pregnant and beautiful and able to write many fabulous pages in a single bound); Allan Heinberg -- Joss-like in his smartness and multi-talentedness; the warm, funny and ridiculously “on-it” in-every-way Tony and Joan Phelan; The Hammer – Mark Wilding – a great writer and The Godfather around here; fantastic (also lovely and pregnant) Debora, whose writing made me laugh and cry and all that other envy-inducing stuff; Stacy who can produce both wonderful scripts and amazing portraits of people made entirely of pipe cleaners… Not to mention the always enchanting Kip and Caro … Zoanne and Elizabeth, great writers and the people who actually know what doctors do and say. Every one of them was welcoming and seriously funny and dedicated. Also -- Kern, Eric, Darren, Jim, Chris, Sonay – assistants today – our bosses tomorrow. Tremendously funny and talented in their own right.

Finally – a special mention of Meg, the Writer’s PA, who we all adore – in the way that only creatures in captivity can love the person who brings them food. I’ve worked quite a few places, and I can honestly say that the single greatest benefit of working on a hit show is that Meg appears, at lunch time, with hot food and everything is as ordered. This may seem like a small thing, but for some reason in has proved impossible everywhere but here. And when lunch doesn’t come, writers get cranky and they stop working. They start talking about Nascar and our ex-whatevers, shopping, musicals and what we ate yesterday. (Okay, not Nascar – but I’m doing what I can to butch up the writer image here.) So thank God for Meg, who is great at many other things – but basically keeps Grey’s Anatomy up and running.

But I digress. I figured I had some time. I was just around to do… what exactly? Nobody knew. This is the truth about the “consulting” title. Nobody knows what it is. I think it has something to do with lunch.

But Shonda and company had other ideas. Shonda’s first part of a two-part episode became a two-parter itself – Ferry Hell, one and two. The ones in which Meredith goes into the water and dies. So Shonda suddenly had all this work to do and it turned out she had no IRON in her blood. And very little blood in her blood. Shonda needed help. From a doctor most of all – but a little help from me on the side. Which is how I came to co-write this episode of Grey's.

And the fact that there are dead people in it is just a coincidence. For those of you who fear I’m whispering in Shonda’s ear about the dark side and alternate realities and stuff – this was her thing, okay? I’m here to write MEDICINE, people. And sex. And sexy medicine.

I was again – intimidated. It was a challenge to write and shoot for so many reasons. Not in a digital-ferry-crashing-into-a-digital-dock way, but still… This, again, wasn’t a typical Grey’s. Half of it takes place… where? In Meredith’s head? In Heaven? We decided, for obvious reasons, not to get too specific. And we knew Meredith had to go on a journey. But, get it wrong and it’s “Touched by an Icy Blue Surgeon.” And Denny and Dylan? I’m supposed to touch the sacredness of Denny and Dylan? I think not. All will agree that I basically punted that stuff.

But you know, Denny and Izzie at the end. Shonda’s been talking about that since she pitched me the episode. It was heart-breaking then, in my office with bad lighting… So on it’s feet -- awesome. But I’ll let Shonda weigh in more on that favorite moment.

Back in Seattle Grace we struggled with going to such a dark place and finding the funny. Not that we found a lot of funny. If there’s a theme here – besides the search for Miracles -- it’s “death sucks.”

For me, what emerged were the love stories. Not just between Derek and Meredith, but between Cristina and Meredith. That essential friendship. Cristina walking out was something that was hotly debated here. Apparently – that’s not good doctoring (I’m new!) But it felt right. If not now, when? Meredith is Cristina’s person. And Richard and Ellis… That love coming to a definitive end. There’s a lot of grief in all of this, but there’s great hope too. It’s the lesson from “the other place” too. We are who we love.

In any case - Shonda did all the heavy lifting. She found the moments that sing for me, that pull it all together. I was still running around asking dumb things like “what’s an Attending?” Then Adam Arkin, a wonderful actor in his own right, did an amazing job directing it. And, as you’ll see – all the actors are in stunningly good form. But aren’t they always?

Oh yeah – they are really that pretty. That’s fun.

So. Thanks for letting me blog. It really was a good call to get – “come hang at Grey’s.” The people here are tremendous, and the show’s pretty damn fun to write when it isn’t trying to kill us all. I hope to stick around, at least until somebody tells me what an Attending is.

***and the agent weeps***
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I like Marti. This episode was so.. Buffy
She loved Buffy/Willow friendship and now Meredith/Cristina.

About the episode... My trio is always the best
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February 22, 2007: Some Kind of Miracle
Where do I start? First, a little self-indulgence. This magnificent episode — part three of a three-parter – aired on my birthday. So, Shonda darlin', thanks for the beyond awesome birthday present! OK, enough of that. How fabulous was tonight? We knew in our hearts that Meredith would live. I enjoyed reading the plethora of comments the last few weeks, some predicting that "if Meredith dies, maybe she'll continue as narrator a la Mary Alice on Desperate Housewives?” Nope. The title of the episode was "Some Kind of Miracle."

Last week when Denny and Dylan showed up in Meredith's temporary after-life, I thought maybe that would be it. I thought Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Kyle Chandler were just there for quick cameos with hardly any lines. I absolutely loved how much screen time they had tonight — especially Jeffrey. Give that man an Emmy nomination for tonight, please (to make up for him not getting one last season). My favorite Denny scene was Denny praising Derrick as "a rarity" to Meredith: "Do you know what a miracle it is that Derrick exists? He's still an optimist. He still believes in true love and magic and soul mates. He's waiting for you and if you don't come back from this, it'll change who he is."

It was great how they kept telling Meredith she didn't belong there. One quick gripe, though. Monica Keena appearing as the late Bonnie from the train wreck episode? Fantastic. But why did they have to show her in the "previously on Grey's Anatomy" scenes, even quickly? That told me immediately that she'd be in Meredith's after-life. I would've preferred it so much more if Bonnie would've appeared, Meredith would've remembered her by going: "Bonnie?" and they could've quickly flashed to Bonnie with the metal pole that was protruding through her body. Including Bonnie in the previous scenes was a spoiler I could've done without. Quick gripe over — back to the brilliance. It meant a lot for the Anna Maria Horsford character to say that Bonnie was a "very important patient" to Meredith. Showed how losing a patient affects the lives of the doctors and interns — of course Meredith would remember Bonnie's name. Thus Meredith also remembering that her mother's scrub nurse died of liver cancer. Amen to Anna Maria!

I kind of figured Meredith would see her mother in the after-life just before returning to present-life. Shonda Rhimes, along with co-writer Marti Noxon, did a classy job with that transition. Derek in one room trying to revive Ellis, with Bailey and the Chief in the other room desperately attempting once again to save Meredith. I knew that as soon as Burke showed up at the bar trying to nudge Cristina back to work after her "I'm coping" visit to the 99 cent store and her chugging a few beers, she'd return.

I think it goes without saying that I cried throughout the episode, but the tear-fest was at its most prevalent when Cristina walked into that room looking at her "person" Meredith with a "No-she-is-not-going-to-die!" facial expression. Her second plea to "Try again!" to Bailey and the Chief gave me chills and once Meredith came back to life and Cristina was alone with her and finally got to tell Meredith that she was getting married to Burke? "You are the one person I wanted to tell! Thank you for not dying." Yes, you guessed it — projectile tears. So many tears it was as though I had almost lost one of my own best friends. Two words for Sandra Oh for this episode: Emmy nomination. Speaking of friends, I must add that my friend Caryn called me after the show aired and said: "I so rarely, next-to-never, cry while watching one-hour dramas, but that Cristina/Meredith scene had me bawling my eyes out...such a beautiful scene between two good friends...and you can use that in your write-up!” Done.

I think a lot of you, from reading all your comments, are more emotionally invested like I am and you cry during just about every Grey’s episode. Am I right? And just when I thought I was done crying tonight, there was Izzie walking in the hallway and then she stopped. When she and Denny "touched" each other and Denny walked away into the light? Return of the cry baby! I was happy Izzie apologized to George at the end and I was not surprised that he was not having any of it and left. I thought she was inappropriately rude to Callie and I still think she should've picked a different time to bring up her anti-Callie feelings last week. Terrific job from Sara Ramirez as Callie tonight defending herself and her marriage to George to Izzie. Nothin' worse than Izzie in a tizzie. Girl needs to take a chill pill.

Speaking of terrific, Patrick Dempsey needs to submit tonight's episode for his Emmy tape. Everything from the scene where Derrick bitched out Ellis, blaming her Meredith’s status ("She might not survive this and that is on you!") to Derrick telling Addison that he thought Meredith went in the water on purpose ("She's a good swimmer...") to him talking to that random husband of a patient who told Derrick he'd put Meredith in his prayers. And it was good for Addison to observe Derrick with Meredith: "He never felt that way about me." Sloan: "I did." Now let's see if McSteamy can go 60 days without sex. That will be a fun challenge to watch in the coming episodes — you know Addison won't be following suit, not with Alex around. Hilarious shot of Alex walking in after Addison asked Sloan: "Who would I be having sex with?"

Other highlights:
— The kick-ass direction by Adam Arkin.
— Elizabeth Reaser as Addison and Alex's Jane Doe patient — glad she's starting to speak and hopefully she'll start to remember things like her name.
— Doc the dog showing up in Meredith's after-life: "Good boy!"
— Dylan to Meredith: "This is not your brain on drugs. This is death. You are dead."
— Alex assuring Addison he was OK to stick with her and Jane Doe and temporarily be away from Meredith: "Meredith always makes me think — screwed up people have a chance."
— Alex making Jane Doe feel better, mentioning he had a friend on her deathbed and saying: "Things are tough all over."
— Bonnie (like the other after-lifers) acting as Meredith's conscience, telling her: "How can you be a surgeon and have so little respect for life?"
— Addison to Derrick: "You do not get to break down. You do not get to fall apart — not when there's still a chance and there's still a chance, Derrick."
— Dylan seeming to be at peace since he completed his task — he saved Meredith.
— While we're on the subject of saving Meredith, I loved that it was Bailey who suggested to the Chief: "What about a cardiopulmonary bypass?" and then later (per Cristina's request): "One more round of ACLS drugs." Chief: "One more."
— Bailey pleading to Meredith: "You cannot give up!"
— Ellis hugging Meredith during the transition scene after telling her "You shouldn't be here" and Meredith following with "Neither should you" and then Ellis telling Meredith: "You are anything but ordinary, Meredith. Now run. Run!" More tears.
— Sydney (Kali Rocha) commending Bailey, confirming the "chief resident talk" she was hearing and that Bailey was giving her a run for her money.
— Meredith's reaction to Ellis dying (to Derrick): "I think it's OK."
— The Chief saying goodbye to Ellis: "I'm not relieved. I miss the sound of your voice. I miss talking to you. I miss you. I dyed my hair for the ladies."
I'm even more psyched now..

Hopefully just 52 minutes left!!
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Great review for an amazing episode! Of course, it's GA
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i skimmed the tv guide one and they summed it up for me. i watched again, last night. and the last moment of izzie/denny was really it for me. some things just really touch you. i cried at different parts of the epi. but that last moment, ugh, just got me.
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