Jensen Ackles - Jensen in 5x05 "Fallen Idol" Episode Discussion

**Considering Disobedience** · 10-06-2009, 09:21 AM

Fallen Idol
October 7, 2009
The CW

Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) decide to start hunting together again and their first case leads them to a small town whose inhabitants are being killed by famous dead icons like Abraham Lincoln and James Dean's car.

However, after two teenage girls come forward and claim their friend was kidnapped by Paris Hilton (in a cameo role as herself), the brothers aren't sure what they are hunting anymore.

Jim Conway directed the episode written by Julie Siege.

OTH_Leyton_4eva · 10-06-2009, 12:05 PM

SO EXCITED FOR THIS EPISODE!
waiting to judge the guest star and BROTHERS ARE BACK FIGHTING TOGETHER <3

Mysteria · 10-06-2009, 10:27 PM

I can't wait for this ep just because it's sounds like an old school ep, cause while the world ending is important, there's still the lower level demons asses to kick.

OTH_Leyton_4eva · 10-07-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysteria (View Post)

I can't wait for this ep just because it's sounds like an old school ep,

I LOVE THAT! i miss the old school style, and the boys are back together <33 CAN NOT WAIT!

**Considering Disobedience** · 10-08-2009, 01:56 PM

I love that it's going to be old school.

Going to miss a certian angel though.

**faith_in_Faith** · 10-08-2009, 01:57 PM

This is gonna be insteresting... I think

But at least they are back together.

But no, Cas, that sucks!

**Considering Disobedience** · 10-08-2009, 09:19 PM

Cas was severly MISSED!

Dean/Paris? ROCKED! Hee!! She did an awesome job.

Anybody up for a dean/Paris thread...nothing shippery just a thread to have fun in, we need a crack thread.

Dean under 'Little Bastard'....OMG!!

that killed me so hard!

Mysteria · 10-08-2009, 09:24 PM

OMG. We could totally have fun with a Dean/Paris thread. I loved there interaction. Freakin hilarious.

Yup Dean was awesome. And the brothers working together was great too. This was a good ep, and it definately had the old school vibe.

**Considering Disobedience** · 10-08-2009, 09:28 PM

Yay!

Crystal are in intrested in starting it? Any title ideas?

Mysteria · 10-08-2009, 09:47 PM

My brain is fried right now. I actually may disappear on you for bed

Heh. Rewatching right now, the whole Sam/Dean convo about Ghandi is just amusing.

sunny214 · 10-09-2009, 09:43 AM

I can´t tell you much about this episode but I can tell you that I freakin love it.

Not all of it - it was to bloody for my liking but all scenes Dean and Sam shared were great. I love that Sam is standing up for himself and tells Dean what is bothering him. And I love this whole conversation:

Dean: What am I supposed to just let you out of the hook?

Sam: No! You can think what ever you want. I deserve it and worse. Hell..you never punishing me as much as I am punishing myself.
But the point is...if we are gonna be a team - you and I - it has to be a two way street.

Dean: So we are just going back to the way we were?

Sam: No, we were never that they way before - before didn´t work How do you think we got here?

Dean: What is that supposed to mean?

Sam: Dean - one of the reasons I went off with Ruby...was to get away from you.

Dean: What?

Sam: It made me feel strong - like I wasn´t your kid brother.

Dean: Are you saying this is my fault?

Sam: No it is my fault - all I am saying is ...When we are doing this...we have to do it different. So we don´t fall into the same route.

Dean: What do you want me to do?

Sam: You have to let me grow up for starters.

It shows that Sam knows exactly what he did and that he made some terrible choices and is ready to take the blame for it - but it although shows how much he has grown up already - by telling Dean that he can´t go on like this.

And I like that he says that one of his reasons was that and not that this whole thing was about that. He made his point clear but although shows enough regrets of where his decisions took him.

Dean always excepted Sam to follow him without a question or hestitation and Sam did exactly that till the day Dean went to Hell. He had to make the decision now on his own. He learned it and kind of liked it. (Not that I say that he doesn´t missed his brother or that he gave up on him or something like that). But in some ways he had to move on and keep fighting and living his life so that when he gets the chance to rescue Dean from hell he would be ready. Then Castiel saved Dean from hell and the minute he reunited with Sam - he expected Sam to take up the subordinate role again. And Sam refused to do so and that was the time where their problems started.

And I love that the writers finally gave some inside look into Sam´s feelings in season four and now.

And the ending was beautiful, too.

Dean: Listen, I was thinking about what he sayed to me yesterday.
With me keeping a to tight leech on you. Maybe you are right…look I am not exactly Mr. Innocent in this whole mess either. I did break the first seal.

Sam: You didn´t know.

Dean: Neither does you. I don´t say that the demon blood was a great way to go …but you did kill Lilith.

Sam: which started the apocalypse.

Dean: Which neither of us saw coming. Who would have thought that killing Lilith would have been a bad thing to do? (The angels including Castiel!!! He could have told Dean.) The point is…I was so worried about you – watching over your every move – I didn´t saw what it actual did to you. So for that I am sorry.

Sam: Thanks.

Dean: So where are we going from here?

Sam: The way I see it – we have one shot to surviving this.

Dean: Whats that?

Sam: Maybe I am on deck for the Devil and maybe it´s the same with you and Michael – maybe there is no changing that…

Dean: That is encouraging.

Sam: But we have to stopp wringing our hands over that. We just grab on who is in front of us and kick his ass and go down fighting.

Dean: I get on board with that.
Sam: Ok – but we have to do it on the same level.

Dean: You got it.
I say – we get the hell out of here.

Sam: Yeah.

Dean: Hey, do you wanna drive?

Sam: You sure?

Dean: Yeah – I could us a nap.

I couldn´t have said it any better!!!

I love that Dean understands what Sam was talking about and that he was not angry at him. This only works when both are honest with each other and tell the other one where the problem is. And not blaming each other anymore - I think that we saw the beginning of the real healing process there.

And a little fangirl moment at the end

OMG!!! Both looked so good in that episode!

I love Jared hair in this...

I totally forgot to mention the funny stuff - it was great to see these two sharing a laughter together and that they got back to the teasing each other

OTH_Leyton_4eva · 10-10-2009, 09:56 AM

thanks for those quotes sunny!