Josh Holloway - *SPOILERS* The WTF spoilers are back: Sawyer meeting Fred Flintstones? - Page 5

misteriosa · 10-31-2007, 06:28 PM

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Unless they have filmed it out of order, it should be either for episode 2 or episode 3.

I have a feeling that the two groups will meet in episode 2 and that they might meet all the freighters in that ep so i don't see how these kids could fit in, but it's possible.
Maybe they are from ep 3 but why hasn't that Brazilian guy mentioned them?

Ryan posted this on the Fuselage about the sighting you posted earlier today:

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Note that this is a separate shoot from the Toys N Joys scene reported in Kaimuki yesterday. I caught them setting up in the morning, and just got back from lunch where I got to watch Daniel Dae Kim chase after a taxi cab then smash his phone to bits on the ground in frustration.

They struggled with passing showers, which seem to come and go at random. Fortunately, Daniel Dae Kim kept dry:

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And at one point, there was a giant stuffed panda bear being carried on someone's shoulders.

**Hawthorn** · 11-01-2007, 08:17 AM

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I have a feeling that the two groups will meet in episode 2 and that they might meet all the freighters in that ep so i don't see how these kids could fit in, but it's possible.
Maybe they are from ep 3 but why hasn't that Brazilian guy mentioned them?

Maybe the journalist just didn't want to mention everything.

We know that some of the Losties are in Othersville in episode 3, so... it's still possible. Maybe Sawyer meets the kids, think about Kate possibly carrying his child, and this leads him to be worried about where she wants to go.

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Ryan posted this on the Fuselage about the sighting you posted earlier today

Thanks!
That panda is starting to be creepy just like the teddy bear of the Tailies kids, lol.

Jin smashing his cell phone on the ground gives me again a FB vibe, but at this point I think it's a FF (this stentence made sense in my mind, I swear).

P.S. I've had 2 hours of sleep last night. I ask mercy for any obscenity/insanity coming out of my mouth today.

misteriosa · 11-01-2007, 08:44 AM

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Maybe the journalist just didn't want to mention everything.

We know that some of the Losties are in Othersville in episode 3, so... it's still possible. Maybe Sawyer meets the kids, think about Kate possibly carrying his child, and this leads him to be worried about where she wants to go.

It would make sense for that scene to happen aropund the time Kate will learn if she's pregnant or not.
I guess the journalist could've omitted some details.

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Jin smashing his cell phone on the ground gives me again a FB vibe, but at this point I think it's a FF (this stentence made sense in my mind, I swear).

Right.

There's a poster on the Fuslage, TheNextHegemon, who claims to have an inside source and says that a main character will die in a FF ep 7 and it won't be Sayid.

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Episode 7. FF death. Main character. Bank on it.

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Death is in a FF. Not Sayid.

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Jin dying in this episode doesn't mean he won't be on the show. I'm sure there will be much mroe Sun/Jin drama.

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I do have an inside source. I can't reveal too much as I've already said too much. I KNOW what happens.

I do not believe him because I remember some of his "inside info" for season 3 and it all sounded like he was just guessing and was basically wrong.
Some of the things he said:

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The Sawyer eppie is 21 and I don't know if it looks too good for him.

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I've been told the Sawyer episode is where we should be looking. I'm pretty sure it was 21. Is it confirmed Charlie is 21?

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I can't reveal my sources but they work for the show and claim Sawyers episode could be the real game changing/payoff episode, wether that means a death I have no clue. I was told not to put that up here but I can't resist.
Just speculation on my part but could Sawyer come full circle and sacrifice himself to save Charlie boy? Another way Sawyer could come into play is if either he made a deal with the others that we and kate are unaware of and this truely is The Long Con. Think about that eppie in coorelation to when Ben shows up. Or maybe it is Locke that has been doing the conning.

I got this info yesterday as well as The Dark Knight sides and have been in Spoiler heaven since.

Why would a person who works on the show talk about Sawyer's episode when he didn't even get one?

You always make sense.

**Hawthorn** · 11-01-2007, 09:04 AM

Dear TheNextHegemon,

stop this **** before I'll have my hands around your neck, and go find your place in the world in the tundra.

Your truly,
TheLordOfTheUniverse

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It would make sense for that scene to happen aropund the time Kate will learn if she's pregnant or not.
I guess the journalist could've omitted some details.

See P.S./disclaimer above for my stupid question: so you mean it could be a scene for episode 4 shot way before, or that it would make sense for it to happen at the end of episode 3, for instance.

Things I'm interested in:
1. Sawyer's safety
2. Sawyer's storyline
3. Kate's pregnancy (no please, no please, no please...)
4. kids in tattered clothes
5. big shock in episode 7
6. Sayid's mysterious job
7. Riiiiiiiiiichard

misteriosa · 11-01-2007, 09:13 AM

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See P.S./disclaimer above for my stupid question: so you mean it could be a scene for episode 4 shot way before, or that it would make sense for it to happen at the end of episode 3, for instance.

If Sawyer is disappointed because of Kate's trip to Otherville, then their scene should happen at the beginning of the episode. I guess Sawyer could have an adventure of his own and meet those kids in that episode. But somehow it would seem too much: Sayid's FF, Sayid and Locke involved with the freighters, Otherville expedition.
I know that the shooting dates are way off, but Sawyer with children in tattered clothes seems to fit in ep 4 more than in ep 2.

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Things I'm interested in:
1. Sawyer's safety
2. Sawyer's storyline
3. Kate's pregnancy (no please, no please, no please...)
4. kids in tattered clothes
5. big shock in episode 7
6. Sayid's mysterious job
7. Riiiiiiiiiichard

Nice list.

I don't think Richard will even be mentioned.
Sayid's job is probably Dharma related and you know what my prediction for ep 7 shock is.

**Hawthorn** · 11-01-2007, 09:32 AM

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If Sawyer is disappointed because of Kate's trip to Otherville, then their scene should happen at the beginning of the episode. I guess Sawyer could have an adventure of his own and meet those kids in that episode. But somehow it would seem too much: Sayid's FF, Sayid and Locke involved with the freighters, Otherville expedition.
I know that the shooting dates are way off, but Sawyer with children in tattered clothes seems to fit in ep 4 more than in ep 2.

It does make more sense the way you see it. But if Kate's pregnancy will be a big deal of a storyline (she's the main character, after all), they could make some little references in the previous two episodes before addressing it in 4x04.

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I don't think Richard will even be mentioned.

That hurt.

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Sayid's job is probably Dharma related and you know what my prediction for ep 7 shock is.

Jin and Sun's son should be prettier. And yep, I'm going to use that as an evidence against your theory.

misteriosa · 11-01-2007, 02:08 PM

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Jin and Sun's son should be prettier. And yep, I'm going to use that as an evidence against your theory.

You win.

More from Ryan: LOST Time — Hawaii Blog

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LOST Time

For the “LOST” crew, Halloween wasn’t so much spooky as it was slippery. Rain washed away some of the momentum during the Chinatown/Koreatown location shoot, as on-again, off-again downpours stalled filming several times. The crew took it all in stride, though, standing at the ready with umbrellas and towels to dry off people and props.

As it turns out, star Daniel Dae Kim bore the brunt of Mother Nature’s Halloween trick: an early take in which he was supposed to run to and duck into a store ended with a crash as he slipped on the sidewalk and landed flat on his back. He was fine, fortunately, and graciously accepted applause for his unscheduled stunt work.

The street scene appears to be the exterior counterpart to the toy store scene they filmed the day before. We see Jin come out the door with, yes, a giant stuffed panda bear. He’s helping his plushy new pal into a taxi cab when a guy speeding past on a blue moped knocks his cell phone out of his hand. As he stoops to pick it up, the taxi cab takes off with someone else inside. Jin runs after the cab, yelling angrily, and to no avail. Cursing, he smashes his phone to bits on the street.

The scene, which may very well add up to less than a minute of footage in Episode 4×07, took all morning to film. But despite the rain delays, shooting wrapped after lunch as scheduled. It was a busy day for the crew, to be sure. Many had to rush off to report to the day’s second shoot: a scene with Sun, Yunjin Kim… at a funeral.

**Hawthorn** · 11-01-2007, 03:35 PM

1) Did the bastard who stole the taxi ride to Jin, steal Bamboo too?

2) A funeral...?!
Not another mysterious coffin... please!

misteriosa · 11-01-2007, 03:52 PM

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1) Did the bastard who stole the taxi ride to Jin, steal Bamboo too?

I haven't even thought about it but I guess he did.

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2) A funeral...?!
Not another mysterious coffin... please!

My bet is on her dad.

If they really show this many FFs so soon, there would be no real point in keeping the action on the island. The suspense will be completely gone.
IMO Lost will transfer to mainland at some point. Probably in season 5.

**Hawthorn** · 11-01-2007, 04:18 PM

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I haven't even thought about it but I guess he did.

I'm trying to find a connection between Jin buying a stuffed animal, and Sun attending a funeral. So far I've failed.

I thought the panda means something, and we would see it again somewhere else... but if it gets stolen, then I was wrong.

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My bet is on her dad.

So they could be in Korea only momentarily for the funeral?
Or maybe Sun's dad has a fatal illness, had an epiphany about triend to make amend for his past behaviour and give Jin a big role in the company (that's why he wears a suit)?.

I blame the lack of sleep for the above insane speculations.

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If they really show this many FFs so soon, there would be no real point in keeping the action on the island. The suspense will be completely gone.
IMO Lost will transfer to mainland at some point. Probably in season 5.

Would they really let go of the island? That island is Lost, somehow. maybe we'll see only a bunch of episodes away from it completely, and then they go back following Jack?

misteriosa · 11-01-2007, 04:43 PM

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I'm trying to find a connection between Jin buying a stuffed animal, and Sun attending a funeral. So far I've failed.

I have no idea what to think about it eirther.

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Would they really let go of the island? That island is Lost, somehow. maybe we'll see only a bunch of episodes away from it completely, and then they go back following Jack?

I think all Loties will turn out to be unhappy after the rescue. The little info about FFs from various sighting reports seem to confirm that.
I think those posters on the Fuselage who talk about course correction are right. They were all supposed to die but because of Desmond's mistake that's what really happened in one dimension and their bodies are somewhere in the ocean but in another dimension they landed on the island and survived. They might eventually start dying on mainland one by one.
I think their return will cause some damage on a larger scale, not just personal problems and sufferings. What it will be, I don't know.
That's why Jack wants to go back. Kate will eventually agree and they will save the world returning to the island. Whether they'll die right away as a result of some time-travelling side effect or remain to live on the Craphole is yet to be seen. Either way, they will be Adam and Eve.

I don't like this scenario because it basically destroys the redemption theme, which as far as I'm concerned is the basis of this show. If everything is predestined, then the Losties might as well sit on their asses all time and let the universe take care of things.

**Hawthorn** · 11-01-2007, 05:11 PM

There is a microphone/bug in the panda. Yesss, I called it first.

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I think all Loties will turn out to be unhappy after the rescue. The little info about FFs from various sighting reports seem to confirm that.
I think those posters on the Fuselage who talk about course correction are right. They were all supposed to die but because of Desmond's mistake that's what really happened in one dimension and their bodies are somewhere in the ocean but in another dimension they landed on the island and survived. They might eventually start dying on mainland one by one.
I think their return will cause some damage on a larger scale, not just personal problems and sufferings. What it will be, I don't know.
That's why Jack wants to go back. Kate will eventually agree and they will save the world returning to the island. Whether they'll die right away as a result of some time-travelling side effect or remain to live on the Craphole is yet to be seen. Either way, they will be Adam and Eve.

And the last sentence will be "We lived together, and we'll die together, Kate" *smooches*

And I'll jump off a cliff out of disgust.

(I'm not making fun at your theory, but at TPTB obsession with the fated couple, because really, they're beating a dead horse trying to come up with decent storylines for those two together, and the results is that I hate Jack even more and I'm starting to go over my love for Kate)

BTW, that screams like Final Destination rip-off. That movie ended with only 3 characters surviving (the female and male main characters, and the male main character's opponent, the "jerk" of the group" - didn't see the two sequels though).
Also, the other dimension, the one in which they're dead... will it be feaured in the story? Like, we'll see glimpse of "how it should have been"?

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I don't like this scenario because it basically destroys the redemption theme, which as far as I'm concerned is the basis of this show. If everything is predestined, then the Losties might as well sit on their asses all time and let the universe take care of things.

This scenario sucks so bad it would kill whatever love I've had left for this series. From crazy sci-fi/paranormal stuff to cheap horror...!

If episode 7 reveals that Miles is Jin&Sun's son or any other "alternate universe" twist, I'm done.

misteriosa · 11-01-2007, 05:23 PM

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There is a microphone/bug in the panda. Yesss, I called it first.

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And the last sentence will be "We lived together, and we'll die together, Kate" *smooches*

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Also, the other dimension, the one in which they're dead... will it be feaured in the story? Like, we'll see glimpse of "how it should have been"?

I used the term dimension because I have no idea how else to put it.
If we trust Naomi, they are dead in our world, the one they'll return to.

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This scenario sucks so bad it would kill whatever love I've had left for this series. From crazy sci-fi/paranormal stuff to cheap horror...!

Wormholes, time loops, course correction, maybe even duplicates...what's not to love?

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If episode 7 reveals that Miles is Jin&Sun's son or any other "alternate universe" twist, I'm done.

You just remined me of that rumour about Jin/Sun's FF Dark got some time ago.
I'll try and find it.

**Hawthorn** · 11-01-2007, 05:41 PM

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I used the term dimension because I have no idea how else to put it.
If we trust Naomi, they are dead in our world, the one they'll return to.

Got it! Sorry, told you I'm slower than usual today.

But if they come back to the real world and people thought they are dead, it would be on the news forever, they'll have people knowing all of them for that fact... and all my pretty theories about Kate's "he" and Sayid's job being all connected to Dharma go to hell, boo. Lol.
The only thing i can see really fitting in that scenario is (if the flashes in the premiere are FF) Hurley in the mental institution. Poor guy isn't going to take well the readjustment.

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Wormholes, time loops, course correction, maybe even duplicates...what's not to love?

I had already my issues with linear time travel, but that was still in the real of the "crap, I hate that but I have to take it anyway". All the things you mentioned above are "No, **** you I won't buy that" stuff.

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You just remined me of that rumour about Jin/Sun's FF Dark got some time ago.
I'll try and find it.

Nooo! Rumors are bad, lol.

misteriosa · 11-01-2007, 05:51 PM

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But if they come back to the real world and people thought they are dead, it would be on the news forever, they'll have people knowing all of them for that fact... and all my pretty theories about Kate's "he" and Sayid's job being all connected to Dharma go to hell, boo. Lol.
The only thing i can see really fitting in that scenario is (if the flashes in the premiere are FF) Hurley in the mental institution. Poor guy isn't going to take well the readjustment.

Maybe the explanation has something to do with Jack's being sick of lying.

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Nooo! Rumors are bad, lol.

Sometimes they turn out to be true.
I'm still curious about those that appeared on the Turkish blog. That was one lucky extra.