Josh Holloway - *SPOILERS* Sawyer, Sawyer, Sawyer. (this title tries to compensate the lack of news)

**Hawthorn** · 11-13-2007, 08:09 PM

This thread is to collect and discuss all the news, spoilers and speculations about Sawyer in the fourth season of Lost.

We will survive the hiatus!

S4 premiere: Wednesday February 6, 2008, at 8 p.m.
(on Nov. 7, ABC.com reported Thu Feb 14 -6/-7c as premiere date, but the info was removed some hours later)

Shooting dates
4x01: unknown
4x02: unknown
4x03: Sept. 14 - Sept. 28
4x04: Sept. 25 - Oct. 6
4x05: Oct. 5 - Oct. 18
4x06: Oct. 16 - Oct. 30
4x07: Oct. 27 - Nov. 9

November 5:
Cuse and Lindelof about the WGA strike

November 8:
- 'ABC says as of now it is sticking with its plan to air the eight episodes it has of Lost'
- Kristin of E! interviews Damon Lindelof

This post is to collect only the Sawyer-related spoilers/news, to check all the general spoilers follow the links to the livejournal community

Spoilers

November 8, 2007
Jorge G. @ The Fuselage:
We've spread the work out a little bit. Like we're not overlapping episodes as we usually do. So we'll have stuff to shoot till Thanksgiving. Then if the strike continues we'll have a break.

October 15, 2007

- Watch with Kristin @ E! online: Juliet's sister, writers' strike, death spoiler

- First promo pics for S4 by TV Guide (Oct. 22 issue): cover; article; pag.1; pag.2

October 13, 2007

- From Jorge Garcia @ The Fuselage: "shocking" death confirmed

October 6, 2007

- From Ed Reif's blog: picture taken with Josh

- By Sawyer840 via DarkUFO's blog: Death coming to Lost + Kate's scene in the jungle
One of the things that she managed to find out is that they are also about to film a death on the show. The info is being kept very secret currently and we don't have details of who the death will involve. Hopefully she'll have some more info soon which she'll be able to pass onto us.

September 19, 2007

- From DarkUFO: Lost Season 4 ABC Commissary

September 14, 2007

LOST-TV Forums: Filming sightings

From TourniquetMan: "They are here right now as I type this, in my town shooting a scene. Whitmore Village in Wahiawa, There seems to be a lot of activity near down a path leading to a stream area.
They were asking for kids in tattered clothing as extras, Josh Halloway was sighted."

From HaleiwaDiva: I saw them filming in Whitmore Village yersterday too,TourniquetMan. They were right behind the baseball field. It looked like they might have been filming in a house right there. I didn't see anyone outside, just the big white trailers and the usual signs.

August 24, 2007

From Jacobe via DarkUFO's blog - First filming sightings

I live in Kalihi, Hawaii. Yesterday, LOST was filming on N King Street by the Discount Store and Tamashiro Market, for those that live in Hawaii.
I was able to spot Josh Halloway (Sawyer). So I'm assuming a Sawyer flashback. OR maybe a flash-forward??
The scene involved a car being chased by two police cars, leading to the first car to jump a ramp and crash.
That's all I was able to see.
Sorry, I wasn't able to record or take pictures.

For all the previous spoilers (May-September), go here: Spoiler Archive

Rumors

October 17, 2007

The Odi replies to the Turkish rumors asking his source
- Sawyer has NOT filmed a FF and the FFs are being kept very secretive with a very small crew.
- The death will be a MAIN character that is a fan favorite and a male character, plus it will occur on island most likely by mid-season. It will be likely one of the four: Sawyer, Hurley, Sayid or Jin.

October 16, 2007

By Turkish blogger Dizidizi who got spoilers from an extra (corrections by ozguroyus)
- "None of the actors actually knows EXACTLY who was in the coffin" - "The guy in the coffin is not Sawyer, Ben or Michael" and in addition it's written that we CAN be SURE about this.
- They have filmed a Sawyer-centric flashforward.

September 25, 2007

The Odi - New info on S4
- Two more Losties will die....a male and a female. The male will die on the island, while the female will die in a FLASHFORWARD via suicide.

**Hawthorn** · 11-14-2007, 04:16 AM

Wow, Ausiello had something useful this week!

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Question: This strike has me worried about the future of Lost. Since it looks like ABC will go ahead and air the eight completed episodes in early '08, what happens to the other eight? — Conor
Ausiello: It all depends on when the strike ends. If it ends in the next month or so, there's a good chance all 16 episodes will still air this season. If it goes on longer than that, the back eight would most likely be grouped in with next season's 16. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

Question: One more Lost-related strike Q: How will the strike affect the return of Harold Perrineau (Michael) and Cynthia Watros (Libby)? — Conor
Ausiello: They both made the pre-strike cut — but just barely. Sources confirm that (Major spoiler alert) Watros and Perrineau will show up in Episode 8. And I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they're both somehow involved in the mini cliff-hanger that Team Darlton's been teasing.

Question: I'm absolutely lost without Lost. Can you please pass along any details on Season 4 to tide me over? — Mike B.
Ausiello: Episode 6 is Juliet-centric and features the return of three deceased characters: *o*****, **h*n, and **. *r*e*d**.

Ausiello on Grey's, Lost, Pushing Daisies, Life and More!! - Ask Ausiello | TVGuide.com

Episode 6 is Juliet-centric and we'll see Ethan, Mr. Friendly and Goodwin (I think).
We're on island, right?
That would make another of Odi's rumors (possibly) correct then:

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Juliet's flashback episode will be about her time on the island and her mark of shame.

The spoiler about the female therapist as guest star, made me totally think about a flashforward when I first read it.

And both Michael and Libby in episode 8. That means a flashback, probably about one of the new characters.

P.S. I used the title picked by Maria yesterday night, let me know if it's ok. Super sad: I had nothing to add to the first post

, nothing about Sawyer, I just linked to some strike news to put something new.

ETA - I can't believe the second mobisode could be more boring than Jack, Christian and the watch, but it was

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Spoilers: Lost Mobisode 2 - Missing Pieces - Hurley and Frogurt

misteriosa · 11-14-2007, 06:06 AM

Thanks for the spoilers and the mobisode updates.

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Episode 6 is Juliet-centric and we'll see Ethan, Mr. Friendly and Goodwin (I think).
We're on island, right?
That would make another of Odi's rumors (possibly) correct then

I think you guessed all the three characters correctly.
When I first saw this spoiler I immediately thought of checking some Odi's stuff.

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The spoiler about the female therapist as guest star, made me totally think about a flashforward when I first read it.

Me too, but now I can't really see a therapist on the island. Maybe she's from the freighter.

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And both Michael and Libby in episode 8. That means a flashback, probably about one of the new characters.

I guess that was really Harold filming. It would make sense if it were his FB but I don't know how Libby could fit.

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ETA - I can't believe the second mobisode could be more boring than Jack, Christian and the watch, but it was

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Spoilers: Lost Mobisode 2 - Missing Pieces - Hurley and Frogurt

Craprastic.

And yet there are some fans who like the mobisodes.

**Hawthorn** · 11-14-2007, 07:01 AM

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When I first saw this spoiler I immediately thought of checking some Odi's stuff.

I really can't take this anymore, i *need* to know who is the character dying in S4, or to get a sighting report about Josh on set for episode 4x08.

Is Juliet still in the death list? I don't remember all the spoiler.

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Me too, but now I can't really see a therapist on the island. Maybe she's from the freighter.

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I guess that was really Harold filming. It would make sense if it were his FB but I don't know how Libby could fit.

Even if they start telling Micheal's story from the moment he left the island, Libby can't be squeezed in, she was dead, and how could we get Libby from his POV in an on-mainland flash? It makes sense to have a Boatie FB, and introduce Libby's connection with Dharma.

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And yet there are some fans who like the mobisodes.

The fangirl in me will be happy even with 2 minutes of Sawyer playing ping-pong, but as a Lost fan, this new footage is a major let down, especially considering for how long they had been talking about this feature.

But this second mobisode was useful somehow: now we now the promo of the other day showed S4 scenes only.

misteriosa · 11-14-2007, 08:07 AM

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Is Juliet still in the death list? I don't remember all the spoiler.

You mean Odi's? No and she never was.
According to Odi a male character, fan favourite will die in the first half of the season. His source first talked about Sawyer and Hurley, and later added Jin and Sayid to the list.
He also said theat a female character would commit suicide in a FF.

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But this second mobisode was useful somehow: now we now the promo of the other day showed S4 scenes only.

Thta's the only good thing about the mobisode.
I wonder when Hurley got time to change his shirt.

**Hawthorn** · 11-14-2007, 08:12 AM

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You mean Odi's? No and she never was.

No, the general list, our list, lol. I mean, Odi's rumors aside, we don't have any spoilerish hint (like the ME interview about Ben's role in S4) about Juliet being alive in the second part of the season or the future..?

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I wonder when Hurley got time to change his shirt.

But where is he exactly in that scene with the blue/denim shirt?

misteriosa · 11-14-2007, 08:24 AM

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No, the general list, our list, lol. I mean, Odi's rumors aside, we don't have any spoilerish hint (like the ME interview about Ben's role in S4) about Juliet being alive in the second part of the season or the future..?

Ahhh.

I still believe the death happens pretty early on, in ep 5 or maybe even 4.
That excludes Juliet from my list.

Some think that this death could happen in a FF and still think that Jin could die, but I believe it'll happen on the island.

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But where is he exactly in that scene with the blue/denim shirt?

People mention the Looking Glass.

**Hawthorn** · 11-14-2007, 08:33 AM

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Ahhh.

I was me being sucky at usual at explaing/expressing things, sorry!

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I still believe the death happens pretty early on, in ep 5 or maybe even 4.
That excludes Juliet from my list.

I don't know what to say about that because I'm still hurting my brain over Sawyer840's spoiler (reposted by Dark - not even him knew the exact meaning of her mention, at least that's what he said).

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Some think that this death could happen in a FF and still think that Jin could die, but I believe it'll happen on the island.

i can't really see that happening. But it would be a new approach for sure, while the whole tension with Charlie was if he could defeat the fate seen for him by Desmond, in that case people could warm up to Jin and what happens to him in his last days because they know he's a goner. I don't know if it could work on a dramatic level.

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People mention the Looking Glass.

I first thought of Alcatraz, but both scenarios seem absurd to me..

ETA - Ducky Does TV » Ducky Reader's LOST Sighting

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So I got an email from a Ducky reader named Nic C. who just returned from a quick vacation in Hawaii and she ran into the LOST crew filming an episode.

I’ll put her comments after the jump because it does contain a slight spoiler in that it lists which characters were where filming together and I know some folks will have a hissy if I don’t.

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I have just returned from a long weekend in Oahu and around the corner from my hotel on Waikiki Beach, at the West end beside the Harbor, I happened upon the Lost film crew! They were filming on the first floor of an empty hotel overlooking the Harbour, the windows were screened off and they were using the swimming pool area, also screened off. What really intrigued me was to see the actor’s trailers in the parking lot, and I was able to walk right up to the doors and to my great delight, the names “Hurley” and ” Sun” were marked on them!! I spoke to a roady who was working on the electrics - he was wearing a Lost - Season 4 t-shirt and apparently if you manage to speak to the right guy, the t-shirts are available to buy! He wasn’t giving much away! However my question is, for Season 4, what on earth are Sun and Hurley doing in a hotel/apartment setting together - how will this pan out???

Swimming pool, Hurley + Sun... @_@
They started filming episode 8 on Monday, this sighting should be from episode 7, I think.

misteriosa · 11-15-2007, 06:37 AM

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Swimming pool, Hurley + Sun... @_@
They started filming episode 8 on Monday, this sighting should be from episode 7, I think.

Shooting schedule for episode 7: Oct. 27 - Nov. 9
This poster said she returned from long week-end so I guess they could've still been filming Jin/Sun episode at the time, although they had probably started shooting ep 8 by then too.

Maybe there's a hotel we still haven't seen on the island.

OT: I think Kristin put a new pic of herself on the site.
I liked the previous one better.

**Hawthorn** · 11-15-2007, 06:53 AM

Hey! Did you buy something this morning?

*is curious like a monkey*

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Shooting schedule for episode 7: Oct. 27 - Nov. 9
This poster said she returned from long week-end so I guess they could've still been filming Jin/Sun episode at the time, although they had probably started shooting ep 8 by then too.

Sun and Hurley makes me think of episode 7 which is probably a FF, while Libby in episode 8 suggests FB to me, but if there is a big amount of WTF in the mini-season finale, anything could be.

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Maybe there's a hotel we still haven't seen on the island.

I'll take the hotel over the dinosaur bones.

(BTW, could it be that they are polar bear bones? I think I saw two pics compared in the screencaps for the mobisode promo on DarkUFO)

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OT: I think Kristin put a new pic of herself on the site.
I liked the previous one better.

It is a new pic, yes. And I agree that the first one was nicer because she looked more natural. But the hair is prettier in the new photo. *_*

misteriosa · 11-15-2007, 07:18 AM

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Hey! Did you buy something this morning?

*is curious like a monkey*

*has never heard of curious monkeys*
I bought:
-pants (they are dark gray; with a line; low waist, but not too low; kind of elegant, but not too much)
-a roll-neck woollen pullover; very light pink, tight and strecthy
-a white shirt; tight but not around the neck; strecthy; whit some small buttons on sleeves and on the side.

I wanted to buy some trousers but I hate those carrot shaped everybody wears these days so I left it for another day.

There are many more things I should buy but I never know what to choose. It took me almost two hours to buy 3 pieces of clothing. I tried way too many of them.

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Sun and Hurley makes me think of episode 7 which is probably a FF, while Libby in episode 8 suggests FB to me, but if there is a big amount of WTF in the mini-season finale, anything could be.

I forgot that ep 8 is a FB.
So, Sun and Hurley meet in a FF. With every new spoiler about Losties after the rescue, I'm more and more convinced that they might get off by the end of this season and that the action will transfer to the mainland.
Otherwise I don't see the point of revealing so many things so soon.

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(BTW, could it be that they are polar bear bones? I think I saw two pics compared in the screencaps for the mobisode promo on DarkUFO)

Are we sure the skull from the promo is the one we saw in the pics Sawyer840 took? Those were huge.

**Hawthorn** · 11-15-2007, 07:39 AM

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*has never heard of curious monkeys*

Sorry, here the expression "curioso/a come una scimmia" is pretty common.

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I bought:
-pants (they are dark gray; with a line; low waist, but not too low; kind of elegant, but not too much)
-a roll-neck woollen pullover; very light pink, tight and strecthy
-a white shirt; tight but not around the neck; strecthy; whit some small buttons on sleeves and on the side.

You had me at "low waist". Do you have any plan for tonight?

Trying to be serious

. It takes me a lot to buy something too, if I don't like something 100% I know I will regret the purchase, so I never settle for something if i have any doubt about it or how it looks on me.

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I wanted to buy some trousers but I hate those carrot shaped everybody wears these days so I left it for another day.

Trousers are a tragedy, basically I know zero about trends, but I hate the model you mentioned.

Plus my taste is stuck in the Seventies

, I love everything similar to this shape:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/826/360199422qp7.jpg

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There are many more things I should buy but I never know what to choose. It took me almost two hours to buy 3 pieces of clothing. I tried way too many of them.

Soemtimes I don't buy anythng in two hours, I would say your shopping morning was productive.

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I forgot that ep 8 is a FB.
So, Sun and Hurley meet in a FF. With every new spoiler about Losties after the rescue, I'm more and more convinced that they might get off by the end of this season and that the action will transfer to the mainland.
Otherwise I don't see the point of revealing so many things so soon.

At this point, I have to agree about that. At first I thought we would only see 1 Lostie in his/her FF, and then in S5 discover what they were up and have more FF episodes, also with characters meeting each other. But apparently they are planning to use the FF feature massively in S4, and we'll see the Losties interact on mainland (Jack/Hurley, Sun/Hurley, Jack/Kate).
Hurley is everywhere.

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Are we sure the skull from the promo is the one we saw in the pics Sawyer840 took? Those were huge.

Hmm.. polar bears taking too many vitamins?

Experiments with giant polar bears?

Err... scrath what I said above.

misteriosa · 11-15-2007, 07:58 AM

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Sorry, here the expression "curioso/a come una scimmia" is pretty common.

Tocca a me essere imbarazzata.

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You had me at "low waist". Do you have any plan for tonight?

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Trousers are a tragedy, basically I know zero about trends, but I hate the model you mentioned.

Plus my taste is stuck in the Seventies

, I love everything similar to this shape:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/826/360199422qp7.jpg

Then I'm stuck in 70s too because most of my pants have that shape.
The 80s are in these days - long shirts, carrot shaped pants...

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At this point, I have to agree about that. At first I thought we would only see 1 Lostie in his/her FF, and then in S5 discover what they were up and have more FF episodes, also with characters meeting each other. But apparently they are planning to use the FF feature massively in S4, and we'll see the Losties interact on mainland (Jack/Hurley, Sun/Hurley, Jack/Kate).

That's what I thought they would do but apparently we were wrong.
Who knows, maybe they even leave in ep 8.

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Hurley is everywhere.

Yes, he is. He's definitely off my death list.
I still think he might somehow turn out to be one of the bad guys eventually (Cobra).

**Hawthorn** · 11-15-2007, 08:24 AM

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Tocca a me essere imbarazzata.

You weren't there to see my face when I first read "It's not my cup of tea" and my

face.

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Then I'm stuck in 70s too because most of my pants have that shape.

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The 80s are in these days - long shirts, carrot shaped pants...

And shoulder pads... I *hate* shoulder pads.

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Who knows, maybe they even leave in ep 8.

You know, it could happen, and then we'll have 8 episode to get to the airport Jack/Kate encounter.
Meh.

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I still think he might somehow turn out to be one of the bad guys eventually (Cobra).

Tha would be cool, no one suspects Hurley. His mental institurion history could play a part in that, and let's not forget that that new dude being seen on set with Jorge.

misteriosa · 11-15-2007, 08:32 AM

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And shoulder pads... I *hate* shoulder pads.

Lovely.

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You know, it could happen, and then we'll have 8 episode to get to the airport Jack/Kate encounter.
Meh.

We'll have to see how they plan on pacing the show and who knows, maybe the FF for various characters happen at different points in time. We still don't know how much time passed between the rescue and the season finale scene.

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Tha would be cool, no one suspects Hurley. His mental institurion history could play a part in that, and let's not forget that that new dude being seen on set with Jorge.

Jorge seems to have been filming with pretty much everyone.