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Old 10-17-2007, 06:41 PM
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*SPOILERS* Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: First set photos, Sawyer is back in action.

This thread is to collect and discuss all the news, spoilers and speculations about Sawyer in the fourth season of Lost.

We will survive the hiatus!

S4 premiere: Wednesday February 6, 2008, at 8 p.m.


Spoilers
October 17, 2007
Ausiello Report: Andrea Roth casted (probably as Chandley Price)


October 15, 2007

- Watch with Kristin @ E! online: Juliet's sister, writers' strike, death spoiler

- First promo pics for S4 by TV Guide (Oct. 22 issue): cover; article; pag.1; pag.2


October 13, 2007

- From Jorge Garcia @ The Fuselage: "shocking" death confirmed

- By Bannerman via DarkUFO's blog: Full casting for the new female recurring character
Shooting for episode 4x06: October 16-30
[CHANDLEY PRICE] : mid 30s to early 40s. Female. She is tough, no-nonsense and beautiful in an unadorned way. She is a therapist by profession and yet could benefit from some therapy herself. The qualities that make her a leader and effective at seeing into other people also cause her problems in her own life -- she can be overly controlling and obsessive. Her strength of personality is undeniable. GUEST STAR/RECURRING


October 12, 2007

- By The Hollywood Reporter: Fisher Stevens casted as Minkowski

- By secretagentman via DarkUFO's blog: New female recurring character introduced in 4x06


October 10, 2007

- From Marianne and Bryant's blog: Only EL and MF on set on october 9-10 at the courtroom

- From the official Lost Magazine: Heroic Hurley moment
I love Hurley. He is the greatest. More heroic Hurley moments like in the finale please! Ok, that was more of a statement than a question. Do you agree?
Damon Lindelof: Hell yes, I agree. And thusly, I hereby promise you one heroic Hurley moment in the season four premiere!


- From Ryan's blog: Kate pleads not guilty to a laundry list of crimes, including murder, assault and weapons charges


October 9

- By sawyer840's blog: Filming news (Jack, Kate, female guest star + *pics*); soon back to the beach
They were filming today a court scene with Jack and Kate. [...] Earlier I met this mysterious new actress and she told me her name is Susan and she acts as a lawyer. She is an extra and really nice!
I saw a lot of what is behind the scenes and it all was really interesting and i could talk to several people (other actors) and got some information:
Apart from Evie and Matt, no one is filming right now, the other main actors are partly busy with other stuff, other movies or just have leisure time.
Soon they will start filming at the beach again.
The crew is really nice and i was a lucky one today! I could seen policemen, jutors and visitors for the scene and it was really amazing.
And Lost will stay at Wednesday, no one ever heard of the changing to Monday!
They are not filming chronologically, because of the other work of the actors, so all what you"ll watch is not for one special episode, they do the scenes in timing with the actor's other work


- By Ryan's blog: Jack/Kate scene
Down in the underground parking lot for the capitol building, near the guard booth and lower entrance off Miller St., a clean-shaven, leather-jacket wearing Jack has a brief conversation with the striking, poised Kate we saw at the end of Season 3. Jack steps away from an older, brown pickup truck, not unlike the one Locke drove in one of his flashbacks, to talk to Kate. There’s some awkwardness, but there are also some smiles. Eventually, Jack helps Kate get into a yellow taxi cab, and watches as it drives away.
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From The Fuselage: The two do cross paths, at least in a parking lot, and apparently they're both in the courtroom scene shooting today.



October 8, 2007

By SAM via DarkUFO's: Video and pics of Lost shooting @ the Hawaii State Capitol


October 6, 2007

- From Ed Reif's blog: picture taken with Josh

- By Ryan @ HawaiiThreads.com: MF spotted near that Capitol building (Kate's courtroom)

- By Sawyer840 via DarkUFO's blog: Death coming to Lost + Kate's scene in the jungle
One of the things that she managed to find out is that they are also about to film a death on the show. The info is being kept very secret currently and we don't have details of who the death will involve. Hopefully she'll have some more info soon which she'll be able to pass onto us.
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From her blog: On this place beside the Nuuanu Pali Drive, where Ryan recently found the Lost tracks there they shot again: a scene with Kate! Perhaps a flashback! It is the place where they once filmed the scene where Kate, Jack and Charlie found the pilot.


- By wharf rat @ losttv-forum.com - Scenes filmed involving Kate, Jack, Hurley, and Sayid + an old character

- By Mike via DarkUFO's blog: Kate's trial + PICS
This morning I went down to the State Capitol Building and saw the filming of a scene involving Kate in a flashback. In the scene, Kate is stepping out of a Town Car which is escorted by police. The building was set to the Los Angeles Criminal Court. When she steps out of the car, there are dozens of camera/news reporters snapping pictures and trying to get an interview. One person even yelled “MURDERER” at her character.


October 5, 2007

- By Ryan @ The Fuselage: Update - At least one of these shoots is for a scene taking place in Los Angeles *pics*

- By Ryan @ The Fuselage: Building a courtroom

- By Ryan via DarkUFO's blog: New info about the filming locations


October 3, 2007

Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide online: Episode 4x04 is Kate-centric


October 2, 2007

Radio interview with Nestor Carbonell () trascribed by Dan for DarkUFO
DJ: "So are you coming back to Lost or what?"
Nestor:
"Um.. no.[laughs] I haven't been contacted by the producers yet; haven't heard anything from them, actually, so I don't know, but I wouldn't
rule anything out. Contractually, I can't do both; I can't be on two networks at the same time. But stranger things have happened. I shot the
Cane pilot before I heard from the LOST producers, they said they wanted me in the last five episodes [of season three]."



October 1, 2007

- From Daniel Dae Kim's MySpace - Intriguing new characters, cool new storylines, more flash forwards.

- By Bannerman via DarkUFO's blog: Full casting breakdown for ep. 4x05
Shoots: 10/5 - 10/18

[RAY] 40s-50s, any ethnicity, psychiatrist, cold, professional type who can do what's necessary to get the job done...VERY NICE CO-STAR THAT COULD TURN INTO A POSSIBLE RECUR AS A GUEST STAR

[ALFRED] 40s-50s, Caucasian, British, cool and calm under pressure, knows his place in society and knows how to handle members of the upper classes...CO-STAR. IMPECCABLE BRITISH ACCENT.

[BANNERMAN] Mid 40s, any ethnicity, narcoleptic, can fall asleep at the drop of a hat, but has an important piece of information to tell. A very smart technician by trade...GUEST STAR.

[BILLY] Mid to late 20s, Caucasian, British, a good buddy to have, willingly to listen but won't take too much gruff before he'll knock you in line...NICE CO-STAR. IMPECCABLE BRITISH ACCENT.

[FOLEY] 40s - 50s, any ethnicity, British, physically fit, tough task master, unrelenting. A performance reminiscent of R. Lee Ermey in "Full Metal Jacket"... NICE CO-STAR. IMPECCABLE BRITISH ACCENT.

[LARSON] Late 20s - 30s, any ethnicity, smart, dangerous but capable of charm and humor. Tough military type. Follows orders and doesn't question them...GUEST STAR, POSSIBLE RECUR.


- By annione @ The Fuselage - Brazilian interview from a Darlton virtual press conference
** 'O Globo' scans by Dude!WeAreLost --- Complete transcript **
After three seasons of flashbacks was it inevitable you’d employ flashforwards because there were less ideas for flashbacks? Will we see predominantly flashforwards or will they be compensated with flashbacks?
DL :
Absolutely inevitable . . . not so much as to abandon flashbacks, but at least to find a paradigm for the narration which will develop the nature of the series. With the flashforwards you get a mixture, each week we hope it’ll be a guessing game to of not only WHO the episode is centred on, but WHEN the action is taking place.
The third season distanced Kate and Jack. But the final episode shows their relationship is as strong as ever. Was this deliberate? Why do you want the fans to think they have no chance together?
CC :
The Jack / Kate / Sawyer triangle is something that will continue for a long time. And who says they have no chance?
Since you revealed the secret of the Island is related to Time Travel a lot of unanswered questions seem to have an acceptable explanation. Why did you decide to reveal this?
CC :
When ABC / Disney allowed us to end the show with 48 more episodes it was the time to start a new way of telling the story, which includes flashforwards. The show is like a mosaic. There are pieces in the present, in the past, and now also in the future. When all the pieces are in place, Lost has finished.
Was the person in the coffin at the end of season 3 someone we’ve seen before?
CC :
Yes.
After all the expectation you created with Walt, are we really going to see him again?
CC :
Oh, you’ll see him again. But you’re going to have to be patient. Sorry.
Does the Island have a name? Will we find it out?
DL :
The name of the Island is Herbert Jablonski.
Do you really know what the last image of the last episode of Lost will be?
CC :
Yes, we know what the last image of the show will be, and it won’t be a black screen.
Will you use a lot of flashforwards this season or does that give too much information on who will survive?
CC :
The flashforwards will be a component of season 4. But it’s not true that the flashforward you saw was the end of the show.
How many days have the survivors been on the Island? If you follow that rhythm of days in the next three seasons the pregnant Sun won’t die before the show finishes. Well, at least not as a cause of the pregnancy illness on the Island. Is this right?
DL :
At the end of the third season the survivors have been on the Island for less than a hundred days. Yes, your theory about Sun is correct . . . but don’t forget that we can jump into the future in the next season, so anything can happen.
So you know how the show is going to end, and does it fit into what you had planned from the beginning (at least the concept)?
DL :
We always knew the ending, we didn’t know how long it would take us to get there. So, yes, it still fits completely with the point in the story in which we find ourselves right now. With 48 episodes ahead, it’s exciting to be working towards an ending with which we are already familiar.
Do you know what actor will play the mysterious Jacob? And has there been any episode in which he appeared before his meeting with Locke?
CC :
Yes, we know how Jacob will be represented. Notice the careful use of words in my answer. No, Jacob didn’t appear before his meeting with Locke.
If Michael comes back this season, will we see Walt physically or only a ghostly presence? Or has Malcolm grown too much to convincingly play a child?
DL :
Michael IS coming back. Definitively. With regards to Walt . . . we always knew Malcolm was going to grow faster than we could film. And we took that into account. Believe us. PLEASE, believe us.


- By secretagentman @ TWoP - episode 4x05 could be Desmond-centric

- Sci Fi Wire - Lost Season-Four Spoilers Leaked (Jacob, FFs, Charlie's death reverberations
[...] The show's producers have already figured out what they will do with the mysterious character of Jacob, who was introduced at the end of season three. Picking his words carefully, executive producer Carlton Cuse said, "Yes, we do know how Jacob will be depicted. Notice the careful wording of my answer. And no, Jacob did not appear before he was met by Locke." Cuse also declined to say whether an actor had been chosen to portray the character. [...]
The producers said that it is inevitable that the time-bending story of Lost will continue to use looks both backward and forward. "It's absolutely inevitable, not to migrate completely away from flashbacks, but at least to find a new paradigm for storytelling that changed up the nature of the show," Cuse said. "Moving forwards, you'll get a mix. Every week will hopefully be a guessing game as to not just who will be focused on, but when we're focusing on them. Flash-forwards will be a part of season four, yes."
The reverberations of the death of Charlie Hieronymus Pace, played by Lord of the Rings's Dominic Monaghan, at the end of the last season will inevitably continue at the beginning of season four. "The reverberation of that death echoes right into the premiere of season four," Lindelof said.



September 29, 2007

MovieWeb - Interview with D. Lindelof and C. Cuse about S4
DL:Season 4 is gonna be a whole new show in a lot of ways. [...] Michael is coming back. Definitely. As for Walt... we've always known Malcolm was going to grow faster than we could shoot the show. And we planned for it. Trust us. Please trust us.
CC: Flash forwards will be a part of Season 4, yes. But it would be wrong to think that the flashforward you saw is the end of the series.



September 28, 2007

- By Ryan: LOST Returns to the YWCA - EL, JG, MF and unknown actress spotted + pics of the woman by The Odi

- Kristin's Vine Show - We'll find out if Kate is pregnat or not in episode 4x04


September 27, 2007

Honolulu Advertisment - 'Lost' takes over Cassis, brings Chinatown snow
About 100 "Lost" cast members and crew jammed the wine bar of Cassis by Chef Mavro for 12 hours Saturday (from 4 a.m.).
This much is certain: Scenes were shot for a February 2008 show and Chef George Mavrolathassitis was interviewed for a segment for a "Lost" DVD bonus package. "I'm sworn to silence on the details, of course," Mavro said.
After leaving the premises, the Losties moved to Merchant Street, where snow fell and filled the street for the cameras. Hmmmm.
Singer Azure McCall had a speaking part on "Lost," opposite new cast member Ken Leung. With her own trailer, chair and hair/makeup crew, she felt like a bona fide star. ...



September 25, 2007

- Set report by Ryan - Jack & Hurley (pics)
Interestingly, "LOST" is back at the historic YWCA on Richards Street in downtown Honolulu. It was again an interior shoot, closed set. But, trailers indicated accommodations for "Jack" and "Hurley," and sure enough, I spotted the pair leaving the building just as I was leaving for work.

- Interview with N. Carbonell - Richard 400 years old and not returning?


September 23, 2007

Set report from Hawaii Lost Yahoo Group - Sayid, Germany *pics*
I was in downtown Honolulu today (Saturday 9/22) and they were filming Lost. It was suppose to be in Germany. They had snow(shaved ice) all over the road. Some of the security said it was a Jack scene. It was not it was Sayid. There was no dialog I could hear, just naveen crossing the street several times. they only did about 7
takes and wrapped.
After naveen and jack Bender were talking in the street and the crew was throwing snowballs. It was a strange sight to see. Most of the snow/ice was almost melted except where there was a pile of it they used to cover the street.
I got to talk to Jack and Naveen and get a hug from both. They are so nice. I talked to some of the crew i know and then left. don't know the eppi as they said they are shooting so many right now it's hard to keep up with the shows. They are working 6 days a week except Sunday. I don't know if it so they can do season 4 and part
of season 5 or if it's so they cast and crew can have some time off to work on other projects.



September 21, 2007

New Lost official podcast (with DL and CC)
- Estimate going back on the air in Feb, night and time yet to be determined.
- Flashforwards, flashbacks in Season 4.
- Losties have only been there about 100 days.
- They have agreed on whether Kate ends up with Jack or Sawyer (one of Darlton is a Jater and one is a Skater, although they won't say which).
- The flashforward we saw is not the end of the show--there is a lot of story beyond that.
- Darlton not fans of the idea of multiple futures. The future is the future.
- Time, space time, time travel are still going to be themes. The rules that Ms Hawking gave Desmond are the rules. The future is fixed, not parallel.
- They will 'park' Richard Alpert until they can figure out how to get him back on the show around his commitment to Cain. They have plans for Richard's story.
- Nikki and Paulo are dead. They had bigger plans for them but didn't have enough time for them and needed to get back to the regular characters.
- We will find out if Kate is pregnant with Sawyer's baby, we will find out by mid-March. They said a few times it might be episode 4.
- Mikhail is dead. Christian Shepard is dead. When you die on LOST you are dead.
(re-cap by KeepingAwake @ The Fuselage)



September 20, 2007

From TV Guide: Libby is back
'OK, so technically, the ABC hit isn't bringing Cynthia Watros' short-lived character back from the dead. But Lost executive producer Carlton Cuse confirms to me exclusively that the actress will be playing Hurley's dearly departed sweetheart again this season for multiple episodes, presumably in more of Desmond's flashbacks.
"She'll be in enough of the show for us to fill in the missing pieces of her story," says Cuse. "We could not be more pleased. Cynthia is a smart and engaging actor, and [executive producer] Damon [Lindelof] and I have some very cool parts of her story left to tell."'



September 19, 2007

- From Nin.com: Set photo (thanks to streetbudz @ The Fuselage)

- Photos from the set (Sept. 17): Matthew Fox and Ken Leung

- From DarkUFO: Lost Season 4 ABC Commissary

- Ask Ausiello: More about Mark, Arthur and Melissa (guests for 4x04)
Question: Lost scoop. Please. Now. Begging. — Adele
Ausiello:
What is this, a telegram? Never mind. Episode 4 will introduce three new characters, all guest stars, not recurring, presumably for someone's flashback (or flash-forward). They are a fortysomething corporate shark who's willing to put his lofty job on the line to get an even loftier one, his female counterpart and the old-timer who will decide their fates.


- Photos from the set (Sept. 17): Evangeline Lilly and Jeremy Davies


September 15, 2007

Tallahassee Democrat - www.tallahassee.com - Tallahassee, FL.

One late-August day at Police Beach: The presence of shelters, camera crews and — gasp! — the actors playing Sawyer, Sayid, Jin, Desmond, Juliet and Hurley mean that filming is in progress.


September 14, 2007

LOST-TV Forums: Filming sightings

From TourniquetMan: "They are here right now as I type this, in my town shooting a scene. Whitmore Village in Wahiawa, There seems to be a lot of activity near down a path leading to a stream area.
They were asking for kids in tattered clothing as extras, Josh Halloway was sighted."

From HaleiwaDiva: I saw them filming in Whitmore Village yersterday too,TourniquetMan. They were right behind the baseball field. It looked like they might have been filming in a house right there. I didn't see anyone outside, just the big white trailers and the usual signs.



August 24, 2007

From Jacobe via DarkUFO's blog - First filming sightings

I live in Kalihi, Hawaii. Yesterday, LOST was filming on N King Street by the Discount Store and Tamashiro Market, for those that live in Hawaii.
I was able to spot Josh Halloway (Sawyer). So I'm assuming a Sawyer flashback. OR maybe a flash-forward??
The scene involved a car being chased by two police cars, leading to the first car to jump a ramp and crash.
That's all I was able to see.
Sorry, I wasn't able to record or take pictures.


For all the previous spoilers (May-September), go here: Spoiler Archive




Rumors
October 19, 2007

From Timetraveler @ TWoP: The "bad guys" arriving to the island via helicopter in ep. 4x06


October 17, 2007

The Odi replies to the Turkish rumors asking his source
1) The freighter people say they are looking for someone and it is planned as long story arc which will last most likely the whole season. We will get some answers to who and why in last few episodes of season. Someone WILL leave the island, but at this point it will ONLY be the freighter guys. Freighter guys leaving will not be important at "first" but will play role later.
-- I questioned our source and they followed with:
"How can I say this...they are looking for someone and we will like them but they can not be trusted because they are there for more then just someone and it will be explained more by Ben [FB] and in the Dharma Episode, the episode that will be about before Ben was on the island"
2) In the first episode that Michael returns he has hit "rock bottom" from the guilt of his actions.
3) As Dark's rumor states and as I posted in a previous blog...we will see the temple at some point in the first half of the season (8 episodes) and we will be surprised.
4) Desmond will play an important role this season and Penny will be on the show but NOT on the island. Plus we will also get to see the man she was going to marry.
-- Asking our source for further clarification we got this:
"After Desmond's release from prison, Penny tracked him down in the U.S. She asked him why he never wrote to her, and whether he ever had a chance to read Our Mutual Friend. When Desmond asked how she found him, she replied that with enough money and determination, you can track anyone. She then learned that Desmond had been told by her father that she had given up hope and had become engaged to another man. She neither confirmed nor denied this, only stating that they hadn't set a wedding date yet."
5) Sawyer has NOT filmed a FF and the FFs are being kept very secretive with a very small crew.
6) No confirmation about the chance of a cameo by Nathan Fillion (Kevin Kate's Ex-Husband) yet.
7) The footage of Jack's scenes for the Kate's Trial episode might not be aired
-- We asked for clarification and got this reply:
"I was pissed when I found this out and didn't like this idea at all"
8) The death will be a MAIN character that is a fan favorite and a male character, plus it will occur on island most likely by mid-season. It will be likely one of the four: Sawyer, Hurley, Sayid or Jin.



October 16, 2007

By Turkish blogger Dizidizi who got spoilers from an extra (corrections by ozguroyus)
"Jeremy Davis and Ken Laugh are playing very interesting characters and most probably their characters will be loved by many ppl."
"There's no such thing as 'rescue from the island', so let's put an end to this matter." (I understood more like; the rescue won't be the issue for this season or won't happen in this season (because he says that a flashforward for Sawyer has been filmed too,-as previously reported- and we all know that Kate has a flashforward, so eventually there will be a rescue, if not, he contradicts with himself very badly) I mean as it's my take, eveyone can correct me.)
"You will be introduced to the temple in the first 8 episodes" and it says we will be very surprised.
"Harrold Perrineau entered the show and brought joy to the crew" - "Micheal is in a miserable situation", "You'll be surprised when you see them (Walt & Micheal)", and "Walt MIGHT NOT be a good/decent person as you might have expected and this is only a clue."
"None of the actors actually knows EXACTLY who was in the coffin" - "The guy in the coffin is not Sawyer, Ben or Michael" and in addition it's written that we CAN be SURE about this.
Desmond will have a very important storyline in the new season.
"Penny joined the island crew. She is expected to enter the (Television) series in episode 4".
The mystery of the magnetic forces that surrounded the island will be resolved in the new season... Penny's father is involved in this story.
"Everybody asks "Is Charlie really dead?", he isn't included in the film shooting, therefore it is explanatory enough I think."
"There wasn't any explanation about the Black Smoke in the scenes shot including it."
The people who will bring evil to the Island won't be the rescue team.
Sawyer has filmed a flash-forward.



October 9, 2007

By The Odi: Nathan Fillion, Richard Alpert, the hatch implosion, Desmond's next FB, Charles Widmore, John Terry
1) Nathan Fillion who played Kevin Callis (Kate's Ex-Husband) is in talks with producers to return to the show for another cameo role.
2) Nestor Carbonell (Richard Alpert) may be killed off or depending on how Ben's story unfolds he may not be coming back to the show just for this season.
3) Locke will explain the hatch implosion.
4) Desmond's next flashback is to be about his time with the British Royal Scots.
5) Charles Widmore will be part of Desmond's FB.
6) John Terry (Christian Shepard -- Jack's Dad) returns in Matthew Fox (Jack) FB/FF episode and it will finally put the whole is he dead or not topic to rest.



September 25, 2007

The Odi - New info on S4
1) Dominic Monaghan & Maggie Grace are in talks to come back for more flashbacks.
2) Aaron Littleton will be seen in a flash forward.
3) The Rousseau Flashback is on hold untll later in the season or next but she will be seen in 2 other FBs that will give us fans more of a reason not to trust her.
4) We will get another episode that will detail what DHARMA has been doing on the island long before Ben and his father came to the island.
5) The person inside the coffin is not Locke but another castaway...also disregard the newspaper article in the finale...it will be rewritten....
6) The first episode with Michael will take place right after "Live Together, Die Alone".
7) A new love triangle will begin episode 4 (not involving Jack or Sawyer).
8) Two more Losties will die....a male and a female. The male will die on the island, while the female will die in a FLASHFORWARD via suicide.



September 20, 2007

- Lost Rumours: Charlie back for Season 5?

For all the previous rumors, go here: Rumors Archive



Previous Threads
Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: Past, present, future. We'll follow him everywhere.
Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: Nine months of hiatus?! Come to join the therapy group.
Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: 2° FF -> LA hotel, Maria/Fran/Misty+Sawyer. Guess the rest
Spoilers: Our "Lost outcast" investigation? Not obsession, but scientific dedication.
Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: Apparently, it really is about bunnies.
Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: Fear our detective skills, foiler guys. *SPOILERS*
*SPOILERS* Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: An apparition? No, he really is filming.
*SPOILERS* Lost on Monday: nothing better than Sawyer to start a new week.
*SPOILERS* Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: Trust no one, but the Hawaiian reporters.
*SPOILERS* Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: First set photos, Sawyer is back in action.
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The first post gets bigger and bigger.
Thanks for updating it and for opening the new thread.
It just occured to me that we don't have to use white boxes anymore.

I checked Ryan's report about the jungle shooting and it doesn't sound like they were shooting the scene we saw in the TV Guide.

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LOST" was filming along a small streambed at Judd Trail, up Old Nuuanu Pali Road. A perfectly LOST-y jungle location.
All the action was out of sight, but it was good to see some familiar faces on the crew. I can only tell you that there was a major confrontation (I could hear yelling echo through the forest), and can rattle of the list of actors I spotted. But I think you'll agree, this simple list alone is enough to get one's heart aflutter. This was a major shoot!
Jorge Garcia (who was kind enough to stop and chat), Terry O'Quinn, Mira Furlan (in a nice checkerboard flannel-type shirt), Josh Holloway (who I believe was the aggressor), Michael Emerson (who appeared to have been on the losing end of a fight), and Emilie DeRavin. Of course there was at least one baby being carried around. Names overheard but not seen include Evangeline Lilly, "Carla," "Alex," "Blake," and "Fuzzy" (likely stunt pro Robert Moody).
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RE: It really sounds like Sawyer is maintaining his darth side.
Indeed. To put my rambling first post more succinctly, I gather Sawyer was hollerin' mad, and gave Ben a good beating. True, Ben was smacked up quite a bit already, but the... make up job I saw made it look pretty fresh. Also, if Fuzzy is the stuntguy, I gather he was standing in for Michael Emerson for some of the more physical stuff.
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There was a major confrontation of some kind, with lots of yelling and stunt fight coordination. I get the feeling "Sawyer" and "Ben" had words, and you can guess who ended up bloodied.
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Minor update... my friend D.K. checked in later in the day and saw Matthew Fox. He was in a scene with Evangeline and another male character, described as "skinny" and and sporting a "D" name (Dennis?)
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You're welcome, Crystal.

Every time I update the first post I wonder if the board has a characters limit like for PMs.
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D'oh, you're right! I can go and remove them, ok?
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I checked Ryan's report about the jungle shooting and it doesn't sound like they were shooting the scene we saw in the TV Guide.
Question is: does it happen before or after the scene in the promo pics? I would say before. The two groups reunite (that's why Claire is there), then the boys + Juliet take off to do... something. It doesn't make a lot of sense that Bernard decided to follow them again, but if I go for the other speculation (the scene in TV Guide happening before the two groups reunite), I'm left with an even bigger question: how did Locke manage to reach the beach group so fast?
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Question is: does it happen before or after the scene in the promo pics? I would say before. The two groups reunite (that's why Claire is there), then the boys + Juliet take off to do... something. It doesn't make a lot of sense that Bernard decided to follow them again, but if I go for the other speculation (the scene in TV Guide happening before the two groups reunite), I'm left with an even bigger question: how did Locke manage to reach the beach group so fast?
I also think the scene we saw happens before the one Ryan heard.
Poor Bernard. He just tags along.
Very few things involving Locke make sense so him being with the beach group is no exception.

Maybe all those actors whose names he heard weren't even in the same scene.
Kate could've been comforting Claire for example.

We need more info.
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Very few things involving Locke make sense so him being with the beach group is no exception.
I would say that even if they bring Locke with them, there would be someone with a gun pointed at him during the treck, but he looks totally free. Should we assume that Desmond coming back with the new that Penelope doesn't know anything about Naomi & co. was enough to make them Locke and his words about the Boaties.
Also, can you imagine Sawyer's face at Locke saying how Jacob AND Walt alterted him about the danger?
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Maybe all those actors whose names he heard weren't even in the same scene.
Kate could've been comforting Claire for example.
EdR seems to be listed among the actors Ryan saw/heard on set, but I think Evi was only mentioned by someone else. I think no one of the beach group will meet Jack and Kate in the first 2-3 episodes.

This isn't a real info, still... It looks like Terry is moving back to California:
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This is a proof of what we were saying the other day about Kristin's speculation/spoiler: if some actors go back to the mainland it doesn't mean anything because they could just want to go back in a more populated place now that the end date of the show has been set and there are 2-3 more months of spare time from filming.
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Should we assume that Desmond coming back with the new that Penelope doesn't know anything about Naomi & co. was enough to make them Locke and his words about the Boaties.
We could do that.

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Also, can you imagine Sawyer's face at Locke saying how Jacob AND Walt alterted him about the danger?
It's really hard for me to predict Sawyer's reaction to any kind of situation considering the state he's in. Normally I'd expect some sarcastic remark, but I don't see him talking much. Just yelling, punching and shooting, at least in the first few episodes.

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EdR seems to be listed among the actors Ryan saw/heard on set, but I think Evi was only mentioned by someone else. I think no one of the beach group will meet Jack and Kate in the first 2-3 episodes.
I agree. Danielle is also there, so I guess Alex (and Karl) are too.

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This isn't a real info, still... It looks like Terry is moving back to California:
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This is a proof of what we were saying the other day about Kristin's speculation/spoiler: if some actors go back to the mainland it doesn't mean anything because they could just want to go back in a more populated place now that the end date of the show has been set and there are 2-3 more months of spare time from filming.
I didn't see the date of the article. I remember seeing some news about Terry selling his house, but I also remember reading that he was buying another one.
I'm confused again.
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We could do that.
I'm happy you understood the post although I typed "new" instead of "news" and totally ate the word "trust".
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It's really hard for me to predict Sawyer's reaction to any kind of situation considering the state he's in. Normally I'd expect some sarcastic remark, but I don't see him talking much. Just yelling, punching and shooting, at least in the first few episodes.
I would expect Sawyer to say a "You can't really expect us to believe your s**t again after everything you've done", with an indirect reference to The Brig. But he and Locke parted pretty well at the end of that episode like Sawyer had some kind of understanding towards John, so... who knows.
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I agree. Danielle is also there, so I guess Alex (and Karl) are too.
Do you think Jack and Kate will find the first two Boaties parachuted on the island, and Sawyer & co. Champignon?
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I didn't see the date of the article. I remember seeing some news about Terry selling his house, but I also remember reading that he was buying another one.
I'm confused again.
The original source (The Wall Street Journal online) reports October 12 as date of the news.... I don't know.
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Do you think Jack and Kate will find the first two Boaties parachuted on the island, and Sawyer & co. Champignon?
Yes, that's how I think it will play out.

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The original source (The Wall Street Journal online) reports October 12 as date of the news.... I don't know.
I think one person posted the news on the Fuselage but some other poster said Terry was buying another house. It's possible I mixed something up.
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Yes, that's how I think it will play out.
Isn't Sawyer always the lucky one?
Johnny, lovely mad man, I trust you to take care of the lady.
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I think one person posted the news on the Fuselage but some other poster said Terry was buying another house. It's possible I mixed something up.
Maybe it's not accurate... I don't know. Anyway it doesn't mean nothing because I'm prettysure Terry O'Quinn isn't going anywhere (at least for a while, after being put out of the coffin in the FF).
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I think they said Terry will be renting, not buying a new house. Sorry.
Like, you said, it just shows that we can't make any assumptions based on these kinds of news. Unless they are backed up by some other, filming related info.

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Spent some time today with a guy who flies helicopters for the show. He claimed that he just finished filming and his story line was that he was flying "bad guys" (his description) to the island. When he asked where these people were coming from, so he could understand the plot, he was told a freighter off the island. He made it pretty clear that the people that he is bringing in are not good news for the survivors of 815 and there are a lot of them. My source is pretty good about keeping his mouth shut and that's all I could get out of him. In all fairness, though he has flown for the show before, he was never a participant in the actual storyline and he never followed the plot lines, so his info has always been in bits and pieces and he doesn't really understand how it all fits together. This time he says he is part of the action in an acting capacity, I think that means he will actually been seen piloting the helicopter. He was just told he will be returning for more filming. Sounds like the writers are making this all up as they go along.
I don't know how reliable this person is. It seems like the Losties won't see the bad guys until ep 6.
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I don't know how reliable this person is. It seems like the Losties won't see the bad guys until ep 6.
I don't know.. does that mean that all the scenes with the new characters we know about (Jack with Ken Leung and Kate with Jeremy Davies, and Champignon "meeting" the Losties in the jungle), have been filmed in advance for future episodes? Or those 3 people were a sort of "exploratation group", while the rest of the Boaties will arrive later, making clear their not-so-good intentions?

I have no idea if Timetraveler is reliable, but he hasn't a lot of details and doesn't claim to know more or be able to get more info... usually these are good signs.
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Or those 3 people were a sort of "exploratation group", while the rest of the Boaties will arrive later, making clear their not-so-good intentions?
That's what I had in mind. I guess the parachuters will be friendly towrads the Losties.
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I didn't think it was possible, but the first post without the white boxes is even scarier.
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That's what I had in mind. I guess the parachuters will be friendly towrads the Losties.
I can see why Jack and Kate believe them, but I'm pretty curious about Champy meeting the beach group + Ben & Locke, because it looks like they believed Locke and have Penelope's message.
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He made it pretty clear that the people that he is bringing in are not good news for the survivors of 815 and there are a lot of them.
Oh joy.
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I didn't think it was possible, but the first post without the white boxes is even scarier.
It looked more organized before and I made you change it.

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I can see why Jack and Kate believe them, but I'm pretty curious about Champy meeting the beach group + Ben & Locke, because it looks like they believed Locke and have Penelope's message.
The Losties might trust them because they didn't come on the freighter. Even we don't know if they are actually connected with the Boaties.

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Oh joy.
The most populated deserted island ever.
I bet most of the bad guys will end up being dead by the end of the season. That's what happened with the Talies and the Others.
Why can't they come up with a way to tell their story using the original characters more and not killing them off?

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