Josh Holloway - *SPOILERS* #28: The Finale Follies - Step Right Inside - Page 6

**Hawthorn** · 05-13-2008, 03:08 PM

Not that a super cool finale can make up for a whole season, but some nice Sawyer stuff twouldn't hurt, for once.

Sneak peek re-cap by E! online from the Upfronts:

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Two pilots are at the helm of a transport plane, maybe a C-17. One chatises the other for clinging to his lucky charm, the one holding the rabbit's foot says he has to be extra vigilant considering the cargo they are carrying. These two are the copilots of a Coast Guard transport that's bringing the Oceanic Six back to the mainland. Michelle Forbes is an Oceanic Airlines rep, strapped into the jump seat immediately behind the pilots. The pilots tell Forbes they're approaching the tarmac.

She goes back into the cargo hold where Jack, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Kate are strapped in to passenger seats. Kate is holding Aaron. Michelle Forbes tells the Six the press wants to talk to them but she can get them out of it. Jack speaks for the group and says that's fine, they're prepared to answer any questions. Michelle Forbes leaves, tottering back to the cockpit in her stilettos.

Jack says they all know the story, but if they get any questions they can’t answer, the press will just assume they're in shock. Sun: "Jack, we are in shock." Sun and Sayid do like they're in shock, whereas Kate just looks generally devastated. Aaron is wearing an insanely adorable little overall jumper. The plane lands, and the gangplank is lowered.

The Six exit the back of the transport. Mama Reyes, Papa and Mama Paik, and Mama Shephard are all waiting. All three clans are overjoyed to see each other. Sayid and Kate have no families greeting them. Hugo jumps back after hugging his mom hello and introduces Sayid, who gets the full family hug treatment.

Kate, who looks especially freckly for some reason, holds on tight to Baby Aaron and looks around, all alone. I know that Sam Austen is probably supposed to be in Iraq or something (cf the background soldiers in "Something Nice Back Home") and I know her mom is perpetually dying, but she's all alone, and it shows.

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deej240z · 05-13-2008, 03:13 PM

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When Sawyer said those people almost destryed the New Othertown, he all but started signing na-na-na-na-na I told you so.

Kate's reaction wasn't that drastic but she seemed like she didn't give a **** either.

Jack is a prick. No doubt about it. What's funny is a character can be a prick and still be enjoyable to watch. How is it that Jack is just like watching a root canal?

Kate, I think, was so gobsmacked to see Sawyer holding a baby it robbed her of her brain.

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Aww, Black Hole. I haven't used the nickname in a while.

The thing that disappoints me the most about this sneak peek, and probably will even more after watching the first hour of the finale, is that if all Sawyer will have to do is shooting around, and have his romantic moment(s) with Kate, we'll be back at what the character got in the last two season finales.
The "super secret Sawyer scene" Kristin and Dark brought up is still pretty much a rumor with what we know so far.

That is my fear as well. This year has sucked for Sawyer screentime.

And any so called "romantic moments" won't be because we've seen the future and know it doesn't mean much. Unless their moment is beyond the future of snbh. Ha! Could that be the donkey kong whatever they're calling it finale gotcha?

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And I want Sawyr promo pics. *pouts*

I will be on the lookout.

misteriosa · 05-13-2008, 03:14 PM

I was just about to post that.

So we know Desmond and Michael are not with them.
Some questions will left unanswered because they are in shock. Brilliant writers!

Why wouldn't anyone greet Kate - Sam, mother, Tom's wife to blame her for his death, Kevin for lying and leaving him, Cassidy - girl power... but no, they have to play up the sympathy because people didn't really react well to her having Aaron.

deej240z · 05-13-2008, 03:17 PM

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Why wouldn't anyone greet Kate - Sam, mother, Tom's wife to blame her for his death, Kevin for lying and leaving him, Cassidy - girl power... but no, they have to play up the sympathy because people didn't really react well to her having Aaron.

They probably couldn't sign anyone for a guest appearance so they went without.

misteriosa · 05-13-2008, 03:25 PM

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Jack is a prick. No doubt about it. What's funny is a character can be a prick and still be enjoyable to watch. How is it that Jack is just like watching a root canal?

Because the writers want us to view this prick as the hero. Because they make characters treat him as the hero. And because they think of him and talk about him as if he really is the hero.

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Kate, I think, was so gobsmacked to see Sawyer holding a baby it robbed her of her brain.

Projecting much?

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They probably couldn't sign anyone for a guest appearance so they went without.

Or that.

They have been getting rid of a lot of extra characters lately.

deej240z · 05-13-2008, 03:30 PM

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Because the writers want us to view this prick as the hero. Because they make characters treat him as the hero. And because they think of him and talk about him as if he really is the hero.

But... but... he is the hero! Bow down to his awesomeness!

**Hawthorn** · 05-13-2008, 03:31 PM

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That is my fear as well. This year has sucked for Sawyer screentime. And any so called "romantic moments" won't be because we've seen the future and know it doesn't mean much. Unless their moment is beyond the future of snbh. Ha! Could that be the donkey kong whatever they're calling it finale gotcha?

There are a lot of speculations that the "super secret scene" is indeed Sawyer showing up on mainland in the future. The writers themselves, in some interviews, have mentioned how after this finale there could come a time where the story won't need flashes anmore.
I doubt it though, because 1) if Sawyer or all the people we think were left behind would show up in the future, it would be a repeat of last year WTF; and 2) even if it were only Sawyer showing up in the future, and for a one time thing 8maybe to introduce the Orchid as a time travel machine or something like that), didn't they already used the trick with Ben in 4x09?

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Why wouldn't anyone greet Kate - Sam, mother, Tom's wife to blame her for his death, Kevin for lying and leaving him, Cassidy - girl power... but no, they have to play up the sympathy because people didn't really react well to her having Aaron.

Probably they're showing a sign that her loneliness plays a part in how attached she will become to Aaron, to the point of completely see him as her son. She won't even have Jack before the trial is done.

deej240z · 05-13-2008, 03:38 PM

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There are a lot of speculations that the "super secret scene" is indeed Sawyer showing up on mainland in the future. The writers themselves, in some interviews, have mentioned how after this finale there could come a time where the story won't need flashes anmore.
I doubt it though, because 1) if Sawyer or all the people we think were left behind would show up in the future, it would be a repeat of last year WTF; and 2) even if it were only Sawyer showing up in the future, and for a one time thing 8maybe to introduce the Orchid as a time travel machine or something like that), didn't they already used the trick with Ben in 4x09?

Yeah, but that was just Ben.

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Probably they're showing a sign that her loneliness plays a part in how attached she will become to Aaron, to the point of completely see him as her son. She won't even have Jack before the trial is done.

Hmmm, nice idea. That could also explain her gravitation later to Jackass. He may be the only one available out of all the survivors who will even stay in touch.

misteriosa · 05-13-2008, 03:41 PM

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But... but... he is the hero! Bow down to his awesomeness!

I don't think I had ever developed such an instant dislike for a TV character and couple before Lost came along. It was hate at first site with Jack/Jate and me.

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I doubt it though, because 1) if Sawyer or all the people we think were left behind would show up in the future, it would be a repeat of last year WTF; and 2) even if it were only Sawyer showing up in the future, and for a one time thing 8maybe to introduce the Orchid as a time travel machine or something like that), didn't they already used the trick with Ben in 4x09?

I've thought about the possibility of everybody being off the island in the finale ever since Darlton gave that interview to DocArzt. What could make it very different from last year is some weird time/space crap. For example, the Left Behinds returning to anotehr timeline.

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Probably they're showing a sign that her loneliness plays a part in how attached she will become to Aaron, to the point of completely see him as her son. She won't even have Jack before the trial is done.

Like I said - sympathy.

**Hawthorn** · 05-13-2008, 03:58 PM

I think they could've had Sam there (Kevin, her mom and Cassidy couldn't be used), but they already showed her father no where to be seen at the trial (to emphatize Jack's testimony, imo), so to have him at the landing of the O6 could've been seen as contradicting the scenario in Eggtown.

D, her gravitation around Jack is because she loves him. Just like she loves Sawyer. That's the only point the triangle storyline aimed to state in the past 3 years.

To use Josh's words, it was simply "Jack's turn".

M, even with parallel realities and everything, I doubt any time related issues could shock us that much, after everything we've seen this season - Ben time travelling, Desmond doing the same, the time discrepancy between island and off the island. Also, the rteturn to another timeline would complete things to much, when would they end up, in a time before the plane crashed or in an alternate realities where their "official" self are dead or something like that?

misteriosa · 05-13-2008, 04:03 PM

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M, even with parallel realities and everything, I doubt any time related issues could shock us that much, after everything we've seen this season - Ben time travelling, Desmond doing the same, the time discrepancy between island and off the island. Also, the rteturn to another timeline would complete things to much, when would they end up, in a time before the plane crashed or in an alternate realities where their "official" self are dead or something like that?

You'll eat your words after you've seen Sawyer back in the 80s all dressed in pink.

Somebody will take pity over Kate and introduce her to their family - most likely Jack, but Hurley could also do it.

**Hawthorn** · 05-13-2008, 04:08 PM

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You'll eat your words after you've seen Sawyer back in the 80s all dressed in pink.

BTW, I wrote "complete" and I meant "confuse", that's what happens where you're checking another website (E!) while you post.

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Somebody will take pity over Kate and introduce her to their family - most likely Jack, but Hurley could also do it.

This is an idiotic question, but anyway: Kate-all-alone at the end means we're seeing a flash from her POV, or their arrival will be filmed with a general POV, for all the O6, if this makes sense to you.

misteriosa · 05-13-2008, 04:15 PM

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BTW, I wrote "complete" and I meant "confuse", that's what happens where you're checking another website (E!) while you post.

If I started apologizing for mistakes in my posts, it would takke away too much of my time.

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This is an idiotic question, but anyway: Kate-all-alone at the end means we're seeing a flash from her POV, or their arrival will be filmed with a general POV, for all the O6, if this makes sense to you.

To me it sounds like we're seeing it from a general point of view, at least the arrival. If we also see Christian's funeral in this episode, I think the episode will focus mostly on Jack.

**Hawthorn** · 05-13-2008, 04:23 PM

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If I started apologizing for mistakes in my posts, it would takke away too much of my time.

The numbers of your mistakes is the same number of the times the Lost PTB have plased me in this last year.

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To me it sounds like we're seeing it from a general point of view, at least the arrival. If we also see Christian's funeral in this episode, I think the episode will focus mostly on Jack.

I almost hope this episode will be Jack-heavy and focus on Christian's funeral & the Claire reveal so we have a chance he won't be everywhere in the last two hours. Although he will be there for the coffin reveal too, so my hopes for 4x13 & 4x14 aren't high.

misteriosa · 05-13-2008, 04:31 PM

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The numbers of your mistakes is the same number of the times the Lost PTB have plased me in this last year.

I knew you've been secretly admiring Jack's shaved chest.

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I almost hope this episode will be Jack-heavy and focus on Christian's funeral & the Claire reveal so we have a chance he won't be everywhere in the last two hours. Although he will be there for the coffin reveal too, so my hopes for 4x13 & 4x14 aren't high.

Those Australian characters should appear in the first part of the finale and with Claire being who knows where, Jack will once again get the spotlight.

If those spoilers about Desmond are true, then maybe Jack won't be used for the coffin revelation.