Josh Holloway - *SPOILERS* #19: "And here I thought I'd finally be gettin' a good night's sleep" - Page 2

addicted2much · 02-02-2008, 12:45 PM

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Yeah, we kinda created the whole thing from nothing... but it was fun until it lasted

O.K.

Kristin's "fascinating" spoiler may be that in ep 3 it looks like Kate stays to be near James per se , but really she is there to question Miles.

**Crystaline** · 02-02-2008, 12:48 PM

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Can you blame Sawyer for wanting to beat Ben up? He won't kill him... but no matter how good Ben's intentions are (and we don't know yet), he isn't a sweet innocent paying for his heroic actions. I love Locke but I wouldn't fault Sawyer if he used to vent some anger on him as well, all things considered. I don't even want Sawyer to really trust or bond too much with Locke, although I value his character deeply.

I don't blame Sawyer at all for wailing on Ben. He deserves everything he's got coming to him. Especially from Sawyer who he brutalized and manipulated in captivity. I'm just irrational when it comes to characters I love. Sawyer included.

**Hawthorn** · 02-02-2008, 03:42 PM

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As long as you all don´t think of me lower...because my love for pink can be shocking...even in real life people look at me a bit weird when I out myself

To me it happens the contrary

, they all look weird at me because I don't like things too cute or feminine.

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I made a catch *exciting* but no don´t tell me. God, I´m in the spoiler thread and don´t want to know

but you two are too much fun to miss this thread here

Awww.

I hope I won't spoil you unintentionally, because I forgot to keep the stuff from the detailed synopsis marked with the smilie.

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Well, then her behavior now was just dumb. Made her look dumb. Because it´s only been 90days after the first 30 or so days she wanted a spot on that raft and faked an ID, now she´s all forgotten about it

Poor Kate. What are they doing to your character.

Trying to make S3, and probably now S4 Kate, fit with what we've seen of S1 Kate isn't easy.

I would understand if they didn't touch the issue of her fugitive status in the first 2 episodes because there isn't materially the time, it enphasizing her happiness that they're leaving in the two occasions in which the subject comes up with Jack that rings out of this world to me.

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Now that would be a twist! Having the O6 and some of the others. Still, something tells me Jack would make sure Juliet gets to leave as well, or if not he´d be mre concerned to go back in the 1st place...or I´m simply just thinking too high of the doc.

I'm starting to fear when some of the people leave, there will be a lot of commotion and chaos, maybe a dangerous situation created by Locke & co.?, and probably that's why people from Team Jack have to stay behind while some of Team Locke end up getting rescued.

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I´d only be interested in new stuff and I assume there was non?!

No, it's a re-cap show and I guess the only interest it held is if you want to see how ABC promote his show and presents the first 3 seasons to the new watchers.

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Alexa and Fran, you'll end up being like 40 % girly by the end of the day. The horror!

You won't let that happen to me. You have the gun, do what you have to do. If I paint my fingernails... pull the trigger.

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I have nothing to say really

Not even some pervy remarks for me?

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Having seen those few episode 3 promo photos, it seems like everyone will end up being everywhere, which makes me wonder - what was the purpose of dividing the group in the first place, from the writers' POV?

Well, only Charlotte has "changed team" there, and Miles will get captured later on.

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From what I've read, the recap was Jack/Jate love-fest so no point in watching it.

I'll keep the file until tomorrow and if I won't have found any motivation to watch, I'll delete it, lol.

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Kristin's "fascinating" spoiler may be that in ep 3 it looks like Kate stays to be near James per se , but really she is there to question Miles.

Well, the positive thing is that she stays even after she's got the information she was looking for. I hope "fashinating" doesn't have any suspicious undertone.

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I don't blame Sawyer at all for wailing on Ben. He deserves everything he's got coming to him. Especially from Sawyer who he brutalized and manipulated in captivity. I'm just irrational when it comes to characters I love. Sawyer included.

I may start loving Ben only if and after TPTB tell me what the heck he's up for, until I understand his motives, I can't fully connect with a character. And I fear they'll discover Ben's goals in S6.

But I do understand being protective towards the characters you like.

misteriosa · 02-02-2008, 04:22 PM

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You won't let that happen to me. You have the gun, do what you have to do. If I paint my fingernails... pull the trigger.

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Not even some pervy remarks for me?

Nothing. I haven't slept much these past few days. It's time to make up for that.

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Well, only Charlotte has "changed team" there, and Miles will get captured later on.

But that guy from L-F said Desmond is on Team Locke and now we see him near the helicopter. Charlotte will change teams in the span of one episode. Miles is with Jack but I'm still not clear how he end up with Locke. Kate is with Jack but will spend some time in Othersville.
And we still have no idea how Hurley or Aaron will end up being rescued.

I just don't see the practical reason for writers to split the Losties since they'll keep interacting with each other anyway.

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I may start loving Ben only if and after TPTB tell me what the heck he's up for, until I understand his motives, I can't fully connect with a character. And I fear they'll discover Ben's goals in S6.

But I do understand being protective towards the characters you like.

I'm with you. I never understood the fascination with the character or the actor (he's good but not the best IMO).
The annoying thing about the way he's written is that fact that you know he'll end up mind****ing and manipulating everyone in the end. He's sort of "protected" by the writers in some way. (Something like Jack always being the hero and "winning" all the time. )
It still bugs me that we have no idea what the Others' agends is even though a whole season was devoted to them.

Some strike rumours - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/bu...in&oref=slogin
Remember that nothing's official yet.

**Hawthorn** · 02-02-2008, 05:07 PM

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Nothing. I haven't slept much these past few days. It's time to make up for that.

I understand. We should really quit the madness. It would be healthier to keep up with the US timetone moving directly there.

(I didn't sleep not even 1 minute the night of the premiere, I just stayed in bed waiting to get up, and I still have zombie moments).

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But that guy from L-F said Desmond is on Team Locke and now we see him near the helicopter.

*Fran pokes brain - brains shrugs*
The guy that gave us the synopsises?! I totally missed that in what he wrote

, I thought we knew that from another source/spoiler/rumor/thingie.

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Charlotte will change teams in the span of one episode. Miles is with Jack but I'm still not clear how he end up with Locke. Kate is with Jack but will spend some time in Othersville.
And we still have no idea how Hurley or Aaron will end up being rescued.

I just don't see the practical reason for writers to split the Losties since they'll keep interacting with each other anyway.

Maybe it was done mostly to point out the two different positions on the freighter people topic, or to enphasize the Jack VS. Locke thing.
Kate changing team a couple of times was just a way to be consistent with her character.

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I'm with you. I never understood the fascination with the character or the actor (he's good but not the best IMO).

I think his coolness is getting old. For how much time can you keep showing that he knows stuff that won't reveal, and knows what button push with everyone, before you say - ok, what else? Let's hope at least we'll get some insight in his emotions when they'll bring up his story with Annie and Alex.

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The annoying thing about the way he's written is that fact that you know he'll end up mind****ing and manipulating everyone in the end. He's sort of "protected" by the writers in some way. (Something like Jack always being the hero and "winning" all the time. )
It still bugs me that we have no idea what the Others' agends is even though a whole season was devoted to them.

It seems like he's in way deeper than I thought in the beginning, and if all the things connected to Ben need to stay in the dark to keep the mystery up, we'll have basically the Boaties as Others 2.0.

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Some strike rumours - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/bu...in&oref=slogin
Remember that nothing's official yet.

We'll know if what the article says is true at the end of next week.

Thanks for the link, I'll add it to the OP. ^_^

misteriosa · 02-02-2008, 05:22 PM

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I understand. We should really quit the madness. It would be healthier to keep up with the US timetone moving directly there.
(I didn't sleep not even 1 minute the night of the premiere, I just stayed in bed waiting to get up, and I still have zombie moments).

Moving would make us look a bit less insane.
I went to bed at 6.20 a.m. that morning and got up two hours later because I had an appontment at my doctor's. I even tried pretending I forgot about it and get some more sleep

but it didn't exactly work. My Mum "reminded" me to go.

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*Fran pokes brain - brains shrugs*
The guy that gave us the synopsises?! I totally missed that in what he wrote, I thought we knew that from another source/spoiler/rumor/thingie.

That guy. I asked him about Desmond and he replied saying that he was on Locke's team. I hope he wasn't just speculating. It makes sense that at least he, who saw Charlie die, would not trust the freighter people.

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Maybe it was done mostly to point out the two different positions on the freighter people topic, or to enphasize the Jack VS. Locke thing.

This fight between the two has become seriously tiresome. We have no facts, no explanations, no discussions, no answers...nothing solid to base our opinion on the issue. Faith vs. science doesn't do it any more. They are both acting like idiots and all the other Losties are just watching.

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Kate changing team a couple of times was just a way to be consistent with her character.

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It seems like he's in way deeper than I thought in the beginning, and if all the things connected to Ben need to stay in the dark to keep the mystery up, we'll have basically the Boaties as Others 2.0.

Yes, and we won't be able to understand what their agenda is either even though we'll get some insight into individual characters (see Ben and Juliet in season 3).

**Hawthorn** · 02-02-2008, 06:12 PM

Sorry I looked dead, I put the new stuff in the opening and then the page wouldn't load when I tried to save the changes.

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Moving would make us look a bit less insane.
I went to bed at 6.20 a.m. that morning and got up two hours later because I had an appontment at my doctor's. I even tried pretending I forgot about it and get some more sleep

but it didn't exactly work. My Mum "reminded" me to go.

Gah, that's even worse, 2 hours of sleep make it finally painful to leave the bed then. At least I was feeling so uncomfortable stayin awake under the covers, that getting up was actually a relief.
I'm sorry, I hiope at list the visit wasn't annoying or you had to drive/travel for long to get there.

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That guy. I asked him about Desmond and he replied saying that he was on Locke's team. I hope he wasn't just speculating. It makes sense that at least he, who saw Charlie die, would not trust the freighter people.

*epic fail* I didn't get at all that Desmond was stable in Team Locke, I thought that was a rumor or a spoiler but referring to maybe a later episode. How I managed to overlook the fact that it came from the synopsises guy it's a mystery.

In the screencaps from TBOTE, he's still clearly with Jack & co. when Team Locke leaves. *is confused*

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This fight between the two has become seriously tiresome. We have no facts, no explanations, no discussions, no answers...nothing solid to base our opinion on the issue. Faith vs. science doesn't do it any more. They are both acting like idiots and all the other Losties are just watching.

considering it started at the beginning of Season 2... yes, it's getting tiresome. And as you said the others just stand there watching. The fact that the group separates like that is another of those things that works on screen, but if you were there you would scream, "wait a minute and let's talk, for pete's sake".

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Yes, and we won't be able to understand what their agenda is either even though we'll get some insight into individual characters (see Ben and Juliet in season 3).

I just hope they're done introducing all the themes of the show, and these three season will be there to expand and explain them.

misteriosa · 02-02-2008, 10:51 PM

It looks like the strike is almost done:
Watch with Kristin - Breaking: Writers' Strike End Imminent
LA Radio Reporting Writers Strike Deal | The Underwire from Wired.com
Breakthrough in strike talks reported
Breakthrough in WGA talks - Entertainment News, Front Page, Media - Variety

Don't ask why I'm up at 6 a.m. because I honestly don't know.

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I'm sorry, I hiope at list the visit wasn't annoying or you had to drive/travel for long to get there.

I walked there. It's about 15 minutes away, but some fresh air felt good.

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*epic fail* I didn't get at all that Desmond was stable in Team Locke, I thought that was a rumor or a spoiler but referring to maybe a later episode. How I managed to overlook the fact that it came from the synopsises guy it's a mystery.

In the screencaps from TBOTE, he's still clearly with Jack & co. when Team Locke leaves. *is confused*

Honestly, I don't get it either. Most people either have no idea which team he's on or believe he's with Jack.

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considering it started at the beginning of Season 2... yes, it's getting tiresome. And as you said the others just stand there watching. The fact that the group separates like that is another of those things that works on screen, but if you were there you would scream, "wait a minute and let's talk, for pete's sake".

No talking allowed on Lost, missy.

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I just hope they're done introducing all the themes of the show, and these three season will be there to expand and explain them.

That would be nice, possibly with characters acting in ways which make sense along the way and occassionally talking to each other.

**Hawthorn** · 02-03-2008, 06:16 AM

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It looks like the strike is almost done

Awesome!

Thanks for all the articles!

If it happens, they could still work on a few more episodes. Like 4, and then add the other 4 to the next season.
I mean, I have no idea if that happens, but I remember Jorge or someone else saying there was still hope to go back in production if the strike ended before the middle of February.

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Don't ask why I'm up at 6 a.m. because I honestly don't know.

Being Sunday, this morning I got up super late instead.

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I walked there. It's about 15 minutes away, but some fresh air felt good.

It's nice to have your doctor so close to you.

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Honestly, I don't get it either. Most people either have no idea which team he's on or believe he's with Jack.

Maybe they did it on purpose? In episode 5 they'll address his tiem in the Army, and the whole "dishonored" thing, maybe that's when, in contrast to his FB, we'll see him taking a clear position.

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No talking allowed on Lost, missy.

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That would be nice, possibly with characters acting in ways which make sense along the way and occassionally talking to each other.

Now, you're being absolutely greedy and an utopist in your hopes, but I would like that too.

Dark has two screencaps from Confirmed Dead up, sent to him by Ice Box:
Spoilers: 2 Images from Episode 4.02 - Confirmed Dead

And speaking of pictures, isn't a bit disappointing that all the promotional photos for "The Economist" feature Team Jack? (and the people randomly stumbling upon it) Do you think we'll get more pics later on, like for "Confirmed Dead"?

misteriosa · 02-03-2008, 06:38 AM

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If it happens, they could still work on a few more episodes. Like 4, and then add the other 4 to the next season.
I mean, I have no idea if that happens, but I remember Jorge or someone else saying there was still hope to go back in production if the strike ended before the middle of February.

Once they officially announce the end of the strike, I expect more info from Darlton and ABC. Lost is in a better position than most other shows, Carlton is on the WGA committee so journalists will probably be interested to hear where things stand. I expect at least Kristin to tell us some news soon.

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Maybe they did it on purpose? In episode 5 they'll address his tiem in the Army, and the whole "dishonored" thing, maybe that's when, in contrast to his FB, we'll see him taking a clear position.

That's whyt I thought but the promo pics for ep 3 as well as those TV Guide spoilers make me confused. I assume he'll demand the seat on the helicopter very sooon.

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And speaking of pictures, isn't a bit disappointing that all the promotional photos for "The Economist" feature Team Jack? (and the people randomly stumbling upon it) Do you think we'll get more pics later on, like for "Confirmed Dead"?

Thanks for those Confirmed Dead pictures.

I'm annoyed by Team Jack promo pics the same way I'm already sick of him popping up in everyone else's FFs. It's sad they opened what was officially Hurley's epiosde with the hero. I still think the plan was to start season 4 with the FF revelation and Jack, of course, but all the dissatisfaction in season 3 made them show it earlier. They are making the future too much about Jack.
I hope he won't fly to Germany and visit Sayid, too.

ALEXA82 · 02-03-2008, 06:45 AM

Hm, I was awake early too...but went back to sleep because it was Sunday

I also noticed trying to learn for a testpaper is way harder than preparing a presentation

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It looks like the strike is almost done:
Watch with Kristin - Breaking: Writers' Strike End Imminent
LA Radio Reporting Writers Strike Deal | The Underwire from Wired.com
Breakthrough in strike talks reported
Breakthrough in WGA talks - Entertainment News, Front Page, Media - Variety

BEST NEWS OF THE DAY

Misty

for keping me updated about this! That means all TV shows will add some more eps to the current season?

OMG that could mean

Spoiler:

Huddy sex

after all

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Alexa and Fran, you'll end up being like 40 % girly by the end of the day. The horror!

Only if others notice...as long as it i smy dirty little secret

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I hope I won't spoil you unintentionally, because I forgot to keep the stuff from the detailed synopsis marked with the smilie.

NO, like I said, it´s all good. I couldn´t do it completely spoilerfree. This is just perfect

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Trying to make S3, and probably now S4 Kate, fit with what we've seen of S1 Kate isn't easy.

True

misteriosa · 02-03-2008, 07:23 AM

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Hm, I was awake early too...but went back to sleep because it was Sunday

I also noticed trying to learn for a testpaper is way harder than preparing a presentation

I woke up at 1.30 p.m.

and instead of studying I'm here again. Posting and reading on on Lost boards. I'm an idiot.

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BEST NEWS OF THE DAY

Misty

for keping me updated about this! That means all TV shows will add some more eps to the current season?

OMG that could mean

Spoiler:

Huddy sex

after all

I'm not sure where House stands when itcomes to strike.
Even Lost which now has 7 episodes to air probably won't be able to film all the remaining 8 and especially air them as was initially intended.

For those shows that ran out of episodes some time ago, it's probably even harder to predict. I guess most of them could get some episodes done in order to make this season seem complete at least to some extent.

A lot depends on what the networks have to say. If they think shooting several episodes at this point wouldn't be a smart move, then it probably won't be done.

For example, Pushing Daisies producer told Kristin that his show is done for this season but Desperate Housewives could film about 7 more episode according to that show's producer.

From Dark's - Spoilers: Charlotte's full name

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Thanks to my source Ice Box we now have Charlotte's full name - Charlotte Staples Lewis. CS Lewis anyone? Best known for his Narnia books. CS Lewis Wiki Page

**Hawthorn** · 02-03-2008, 07:25 AM

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Once they officially announce the end of the strike, I expect more info from Darlton and ABC. Lost is in a better position than most other shows, Carlton is on the WGA committee so journalists will probably be interested to hear where things stand. I expect at least Kristin to tell us some news soon.

You're katefacing my hopes again, but I agree that we don't know a thing about D&C's B plan in case the strike ended, like it seems it's going to happen.

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That's whyt I thought but the promo pics for ep 3 as well as those TV Guide spoilers make me confused. I assume he'll demand the seat on the helicopter very sooon.

Maybe it happens in episode 3, it could be that the guy was just speculating about Desmon'd side because we don't see him in ep. 2. And then in ep. 5 he'll change his mind.

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I'm annoyed by Team Jack promo pics the same way I'm already sick of him popping up in everyone else's FFs. It's sad they opened what was officially Hurley's epiosde with the hero. I still think the plan was to start season 4 with the FF revelation and Jack, of course, but all the dissatisfaction in season 3 made them show it earlier. They are making the future too much about Jack.
I hope he won't fly to Germany and visit Sayid, too.

Honey, the guy reaches Asia every week-end in the future, a visit in Germany will be like going to the mall for him.

You're right, it could be that the plan was to have the FF at the beginning of S4. This year premiere is pretty "anormal" compared to the past ones.

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I also noticed trying to learn for a testpaper is way harder than preparing a presentation

Good luck with it, Alexa!

Can I add you smilie with the Hawaiian version of the three of us to the opening post?

Now, I feel like starting to speculate about who will get the next 8 FB. Sawyer's better be around ep. 9-10-11!

Thanks for the additional info about the strike. Misty, you're incredible.

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From Dark's - Spoilers: Charlotte's full name

Thanks for that!
Me has never read the books of that series, nor I've watched the movie, but this is what Wikipedia says about the first book of the seven written:

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The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950)

The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, completed in the spring of 1950 and published in 1950, tells the story of four ordinary children: Peter, Susan, Edmund, and Lucy Pevensie. They discover that the wardrobe in an old professor's house leads to the magical land of Narnia, currently under the spell of a witch. The children fulfill an ancient, mysterious prophecy as they help Aslan save Narnia from the evil White Witch who has reigned over the kingdom of Narnia for a hundred years.

ALEXA82 · 02-03-2008, 08:58 AM

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I woke up at 1.30 p.m.

and instead of studying I'm here again. Posting and reading on on Lost boards. I'm an idiot.

Well, I´m here instead of learning medieval German history as well. Also just got a mail that my French test was preponed to this Friday, yeah like I hadn´t enough of my hands with history already. Still Im here... guess I´m an idiot then too

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I'm not sure where House stands when itcomes to strike.
Even Lost which now has 7 episodes to air probably won't be able to film all the remaining 8 and especially air them as was initially intended.

For those shows that ran out of episodes some time ago, it's probably even harder to predict. I guess most of them could get some episodes done in order to make this season seem complete at least to some extent.

A lot depends on what the networks have to say. If they think shooting several episodes at this point wouldn't be a smart move, then it probably won't be done.

For example, Pushing Daisies producer told Kristin that his show is done for this season but Desperate Housewives could film about 7 more episode according to that show's producer.

O, thanks for destroying my hope or rather making me go and see what they say in the House thread about it

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Can I add you smilie with the Hawaiian version of the three of us to the opening post?

Of course Fran!

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Now, I feel like starting to speculate about who will get the next 8 FB. Sawyer's better be around ep. 9-10-11!

Well, saying 9 really is a must IMO but with these writers who are currently on a Jack&Jate mission it´s wishful thinking I guess

Thanks for the luck wishes

...I guess I´ll need them

**Hawthorn** · 02-03-2008, 09:43 AM

Gah, I hate when they prepone things. I always finish studying all the program for a course at the last minute, 2 or 3 days can make the world for me.

Good luck again with everything, Alexa.
And to you and Misty: the worst lazyass/procrastinator here it's me, hands down

, if that make you feel any better.

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Well, saying 9 really is a must IMO but with these writers who are currently on a Jack&Jate mission it´s wishful thinking I guess

I'm sure Jack, Ben, Locke and Danielle will get an episode, I just hope they won't get the spots from 9 to 12.

This is a very slow week-end spoiler wise, but at least we have the news about the strike.