Josh Holloway - *SPOILERS* #16: So, about those kids in tattered clothes... - Page 3

ALEXA82 · 01-01-2008, 06:49 AM

to you too Ladies!

Lucky you Fran for staying sober! I´m really hung over today

But there´ll be spoilers eventually today

now that revived me!

**Hawthorn** · 01-01-2008, 07:07 AM

Happy 2008!

Thanks Alexa!

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I hope Dark will have some spoilery details tomorrow, not just a general review of some episodes.

Here you go

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1) Spoilers: Australian Season 4 Promo

That info about the Australian promo was true, but fortunately the scene is a lot more random than what I got from that first report. There are just Daniel and Jack meeting in the rain, and these lines:

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Daniel: Are you Jack?
Jack: Who are you?
Daniel: I'm here to rescue you.

Daniel "knows" Jack just because he was the one calling the freighter with Naomi's radio.

2) Spoilers: The first image of Season 4

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As some of you correctly predicated the image of the fruit will be the first image shown in Season 4. Only one person however guessed correctly. Congratulations to Adam for the following.

So we see this giant pile of fruit, right? And we think it's on the island, because why wouldn't there be a giant pile of fruit on the island? We hear a rumbling, maybe it's the helicopter, but no. There's a bang! and the fruit explodes. A car comes piling through the fruit. It's a car chase. WHAT?! A car chase on the island?!? No, it's a car chase, FROM THE FUTURE. Ok, it's a flash-forward, but yeah. We see the cops chasing a car and eventually the car spins out of control, crashing into a building or something. The cops tell the driver to get out of the car and it's... Hurley! Why the hell was he running? And he's alive! He made it off the island!

Fruit For The Win!

And so we also know what the heck that car crash sighting was about. don't ask me how someone could have mistaken Josh for someone else on the set when there was only Hurley, but that's it.

ALEXA82 · 01-01-2008, 07:37 AM

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2) Spoilers: The first image of Season 4

Fruit For The Win!

And so we also know what the heck that car crash sighting was about. don't ask me how someone could have mistaken Josh for someone else on the set when there was only Hurley, but that's it.

No Sawyer accident

1st good news of 2008

Thanks for bringing those over

**Hawthorn** · 01-01-2008, 08:58 AM

I still don't know if I considered it a good news

, but only because in my mind the car chase spoiler + Josh on set sighting belongs to the time when we got the news Sawyer would have the premiere, and that spoiler made me think about a flashforward for his character.

But at least we know it wasn't a foiler, just someone in need to wera glasses.

(you can't tell me Josh is the kind of guy you can easily mistake with someone else).

While I'm trying to type a curriculum, I went to read around like the good old days before Misty News arrived in my life.

- Dark has an entry about flyoceanicair.com:
DarkUFO: Flyoceanicair.com has been updated

it looks like there is also a new site up linked on the first one, find815.com.
I still have to read the recaps and check the sites.

- I went to the Fishbiscuit forum (to save the TV Guide cover with the small Josh pic

), and checked their spoiler thread. DarkUFO has promised some reaction/teaser from his sources about episodes 2, 3 and 4. According to his sources, 4x04 is an amazing episodes and Evi should get a Emmy nom. for it.

misteriosa · 01-01-2008, 10:53 AM

Thanks for all the updates Fran.
Congratulations on the Fruit win!

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Daniel: Are you Jack?
Jack: Who are you?
Daniel: I'm here to rescue you.

So they came to rescue them (I assume you refers to the whole group, not just Jack) but it's not exactly their priority?

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don't ask me how someone could have mistaken Josh for someone else on the set when there was only Hurley, but that's it.

Seriously!

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According to his sources, 4x04 is an amazing episodes and Evi should get a Emmy nom. for it.

It should be emotional then. What gives her more material to work with - reaction to non-pregnancy or pregnancy?

ALEXA82 · 01-01-2008, 11:38 AM

Yeah Lost...easily carries one away from duties Fran

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It should be emotional then. What gives her more material to work with - reaction to non-pregnancy or pregnancy?

Stupid question, do we know there is going to be a will she/ won´t she be pregnant storyline? I mean "we´ll find out if she is pregnant or not" could easily be cleared otherwise (like showing a baby or no baby in the FF). I don´t know we had that pregnancy scare stuff in "I do" and I really hope the ep won´t be just about that

[I think I´m so anti that whole theme because I donn´t want a Skate baby]

This Emmy thing, no offense but Dark is a guy and they all love Kate

I think Josh deserves an Emmy for the Davidoff commercial let alone all his FBs

misteriosa · 01-01-2008, 11:51 AM

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Stupid question, do we know there is going to be a will she/ won´t she be pregnant storyline? I mean "we´ll find out if she is pregnant or not" could easily be cleared otherwise (like showing a baby or no baby in the FF). I don´t know we had that pregnancy scare stuff in "I do" and I really hope the ep won´t be just about that

[I think I´m so anti that whole theme because I donn´t want a Skate baby]

You're right. Maybe Evie's flashback scenes impressed those who have seen the episode.

There really aren't almost any spoilers about on-island storyline for Kate's epiosde. I think there was some info about a jungle location Evie was filming on but that's it, no other details.

I don't think there'll be any Skate scene in it.
I wonder if Sawyer what Sawyer will be doing in this episode, will he even appear in it? he better.

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I think Josh deserves an Emmy for the Davidoff commercial let alone all his FBs

He jumps very expressively.

Fran:

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- Dark has an entry about flyoceanicair.com:
DarkUFO: Flyoceanicair.com has been updated

it looks like there is also a new site up linked on the first one, find815.com.
I still have to read the recaps and check the sites.

I've seen two of those videos and they showed this guy whose girlfriend was on the plane. The search has stopped.

This reminded me of Bullman's spoiler for the opening scene. My foiler-loving self thinks we still might see it in episode 2.

**Hawthorn** · 01-01-2008, 12:53 PM

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So they came to rescue them (I assume you refers to the whole group, not just Jack) but it's not exactly their priority?

Well, they just met... it isn't nice to introduce yourself as "the evil Dharma guy you will strike a deal with, screwing your life forever".
It makes sense they don't suspect how bad their intentions are at the beginning... but I don't know how Naomi's attack won't make them suspicious.

Maybe it doesn't happen as early as I think.

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It should be emotional then. What gives her more material to work with - reaction to non-pregnancy or pregnancy?

I agree with Alexa, I think it could very likely be her reaction to facing a trial what may have impressed the people who watched the episode.

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There really aren't almost any spoilers about on-island storyline for Kate's epiosde. I think there was some info about a jungle location Evie was filming on but that's it, no other details.

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I don't think there'll be any Skate scene in it.
I wonder if Sawyer what Sawyer will be doing in this episode, will he even appear in it? he better.

Come on, no matter how much they want to make it all about Kate, no way he isn't to appear and get involved somehow, even if he's on the other side of the island, but something will connect their actions. They can't dismiss him like that in this situation. I don't trust the writers but not so much. And we still don't know for sure ep. 3 shows the final separation between the two groups.

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I've seen two of those videos and they showed this guy whose girlfriend was on the plane. The search has stopped.

This reminded me of Bullman's spoiler for the opening scene. My foiler-loving self thinks we still might see it in episode 2.

Well your spec. matches that hint, would they stop the searches after 3 months just because they couldn't find anything?
I still can't see them going there because they promised no alternate future, and if the world saw their dead corpses, once back on mainland Jack, Kate & co. would have the same media coverage and the same treatement than aliens landing with a spaceship on our planet.
I don't know.

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misteriosa · 01-01-2008, 02:08 PM

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Well, they just met... it isn't nice to introduce yourself as "the evil Dharma guy you will strike a deal with, screwing your life forever".
It makes sense they don't suspect how bad their intentions are at the beginning... but I don't know how Naomi's attack won't make them suspicious.

Maybe it doesn't happen as early as I think.

You've got a point about Daniel's introduction. Kate and Jack probablyseparated from the group and are going to meet him.
I think Naomi resurrects before he lands so I don't get why they seemingly won't be suspicious.

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Come on, no matter how much they want to make it all about Kate, no way he isn't to appear and get involved somehow, even if he's on the other side of the island, but something will connect their actions. They can't dismiss him like that in this situation. I don't trust the writers but not so much. And we still don't know for sure ep. 3 shows the final separation between the two groups.

I expect a lot of Jate in episode 4 and think that the Skate scene from the promo could be the last one for quite some time.

I thought having Sawyer and kids in tattered clother could somehow be included in Kate's episode but if people confused Josh with Jorge who knows which actor was on the set with children.

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Well your spec. matches that hint, would they stop the searches after 3 months just because they couldn't find anything?
I still can't see them going there because they promised no alternate future, and if the world saw their dead corpses, once back on mainland Jack, Kate & co. would have the same media coverage and the same treatement than aliens landing with a spaceship on our planet.
I don't know.

Maybe they'll just show the fake remains of the plane to make the relatives think everyone who was on board is dead.
Could they try some kind of computer animation?

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I can't see the smiley, but thanks for trying.

**Hawthorn** · 01-01-2008, 03:27 PM

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You've got a point about Daniel's introduction. Kate and Jack probablyseparated from the group and are going to meet him.
I think Naomi resurrects before he lands so I don't get why they seemingly won't be suspicious.

Masybe they thought after getting a knife in the back she has her reasons to feel a little hostile towards them..?
It doesn't make sense. She can't be attacking Kate because of any motive that could be explained by Jack as logic, she jumps on Kate so no way it may be seen a mistake for self-defence, also in the promo, if Jack is aiming his gun at her, it means she's telling her to let the other woman go. If Naomi's attack happens in the premiere, what could Daniel & co. tell the Losties to reassure them? That Naomi was a spy?

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I expect a lot of Jate in episode 4 and think that the Skate scene from the promo could be the last one for quite some time.

I expect Jack/Kate scenes but at least some mirroring scenes between Sawyer and Kate. And you know how I still find hard to believe they'll separate for good the two groups so soon. They mentioned many times all the complaints received because of the mini-arc.

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I thought having Sawyer and kids in tattered clother could somehow be included in Kate's episode but if people confused Josh with Jorge who knows which actor was on the set with children.

That's true, sadly. But this person managed to hear the director's instruction for the guest-stars, also while in a FF scene all the people on set are wearing "normal" clothes (maybe even hats), is Josh was on set the classic "Sawyer attire" is pretty difficult to confuse with someone else, even of only for the long blond hair.

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Maybe they'll just show the fake remains of the plane to make the relatives think everyone who was on board is dead.
Could they try some kind of computer animation?

But there were how many? 360 people on that plane? What with the corpses requested by the families? Such a plan could only buy them time for a while maybe.

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I can't see the smiley, but thanks for trying.

The most comfortable way to access the smilies is putting them on photobucket. Then unless you repost the same picture 100 times a day, I doubt you'll have problem with the limits for a long while.

misteriosa · 01-01-2008, 04:02 PM

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Masybe they thought after getting a knife in the back she has her reasons to feel a little hostile towards them..?
It doesn't make sense. She can't be attacking Kate because of any motive that could be explained by Jack as logic, she jumps on Kate so no way it may be seen a mistake for self-defence, also in the promo, if Jack is aiming his gun at her, it means she's telling her to let the other woman go. If Naomi's attack happens in the premiere, what could Daniel & co. tell the Losties to reassure them? That Naomi was a spy?

She was a double agent?

They'll probably just pretend the Naomi attack never happened. I think its main purpose is shock value - WTF she's alive?! Just like Mikhail. Making us believe Kate could die and create suspense is not an option since we saw her safe and sound in FF.

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I expect Jack/Kate scenes but at least some mirroring scenes between Sawyer and Kate. And you know how I still find hard to believe they'll separate for good the two groups so soon. They mentioned many times all the complaints received because of the mini-arc.

Maybe they think dividing the group into two more even teams will be more acceptable.

I was thinking about another issue which messes up with my speculations. If the rescue happens before ep 8, then I don't think Michael was in the coffin. I expect the Oceanic Six to start working on their return to the island soon after the meeting between Kate and Jack at the airport. Darlton have said there's much a lot of story left to tell after that scene. So that would leave very little time for a decent Michael storyline. I'm probably not making any sense.

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That's true, sadly. But this person managed to hear the director's instruction for the guest-stars, also while in a FF scene all the people on set are wearing "normal" clothes (maybe even hats), is Josh was on set the classic "Sawyer attire" is pretty difficult to confuse with someone else, even of only for the long blond hair.

Let's hope you're right.

For which episodes did Dark say he'd give some small details tomorrow?
Maybe he could give out one or few tiny spoilers each day (for each character, some interesting lines, locations etc.).

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But there were how many? 360 people on that plane? What with the corpses requested by the families? Such a plan could only buy them time for a while maybe.

I think it was 324 people but you have a point.
They'll probably just decide to confirm them all dead because it's a reasonable conclusion.

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The most comfortable way to access the smilies is putting them on photobucket. Then unless you repost the same picture 100 times a day, I doubt you'll have problem with the limits for a long while.

I might do it when my lazy period ends.

**Hawthorn** · 01-01-2008, 04:34 PM

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She was a double agent?

They'll probably just pretend the Naomi attack never happened. I think its main purpose is shock value - WTF she's alive?! Just like Mikhail. Making us believe Kate could die and create suspense is not an option since we saw her safe and sound in FF.

Exactly, so it can't just be for shocking purpose... I mean a random Other coming out of the jungle running with a knife would serve the same purpose, and as you said, Naomi is Mickhail 2.0. What if it's a way to introduce since the first moment how Jack & co. sank into their mistake? To reaffirm that they ignored the signals to obtain what the Boaties promised them. They are on the island to do their own business, but if we let them do their things then we get back and Sayonara.
Still, it would fit a lot more if Naomi attacked Kate and then Jack went to ask an explanation to Daniel and got the "rescue people isn't our priority" reply. But now that I think about it, how long can a person stay alive and with enough strenght to move with a big knife wound on her back? The sceme must gbe from the premiere. :/

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Maybe they think dividing the group into two more even teams will be more acceptable.

Could be. But Jack group is going to have what, 7/8 people in it (+ the Boaties), they'll spent 5 episodes following the newbies knowing they're going to be rescued leaving more than 50 people behind?

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I was thinking about another issue which messes up with my speculations. If the rescue happens before ep 8, then I don't think Michael was in the coffin. I expect the Oceanic Six to start working on their return to the island soon after the meeting between Kate and Jack at the airport. Darlton have said there's much a lot of story left to tell after that scene. So that would leave very little time for a decent Michael storyline. I'm probably not making any sense.

I didn't get it.

You mean, if they're rescued by episode 8, who will give a damn about seeing what Micheal did on mainland now that we have the other characters there trying to get back to save their friends and getting desperate when they can't (which basically could be the same thing Micheal attempted to do?)

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For which episodes did Dark say he'd give some small details tomorrow?
Maybe he could give out one or few tiny spoilers each day (for each character, some interesting lines, locations etc.).

4x02, 4x03 and 4x04. but he said what he would give were mostly reactions to the episodes from his sources, very little hints/teases. I don't want to put my hopes up.
I'm dying on anything about the death, btw.

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I think it was 324 people but you have a point.
They'll probably just decide to confirm them all dead because it's a reasonable conclusion.

I do hope the hint in that website refers to that, and that spoiler is wrong. But he doesn't look like a foiler at all because of that second one... so I have no idea.

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I might do it when my lazy period ends.

Mine is on forever so I have a folder and upload each smilie I need on Imageshak.

I use my Photobucket account only for the stuff in the thread openings.

misteriosa · 01-01-2008, 05:00 PM

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Still, it would fit a lot more if Naomi attacked Kate and then Jack went to ask an explanation to Daniel and got the "rescue people isn't our priority" reply. But now that I think about it, how long can a person stay alive and with enough strenght to move with a big knife wound on her back? The sceme must gbe from the premiere. :/

It's definitely from the first episode. A lot seems to be happening so I wonder how it will all fit in an hour.

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Could be. But Jack group is going to have what, 7/8 people in it (+ the Boaties), they'll spent 5 episodes following the newbies knowing they're going to be rescued leaving more than 50 people behind?

Maybe more people will join each team and die very soon?

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I didn't get it.

You mean, if they're rescued by episode 8, who will give a damn about seeing what Micheal did on mainland now that we have the other characters there trying to get back to save their friends and getting desperate when they can't (which basically could be the same thing Micheal attempted to do?)

What I meant was that Michael would be on the show very briefly if he's in the coffin. That's why I think it should be someone else.

But my explanations sound too weird even for me so I'll skip that part.

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4x02, 4x03 and 4x04. but he said what he would give were mostly reactions to the episodes from his sources, very little hints/teases. I don't want to put my hopes up.
I'm dying on anything about the death, btw.

I'd like to know at least the episode in which it happens.
Reactions are better than nothing but that's not going to reveal alot more.

BTW A lot of people are disappointed with the opening scene.

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Mine is on forever so I have a folder and upload each smilie I need on Imageshak.
I use my Photobucket account only for the stuff in the thread openings.

I might upload those I like on Imageshack one day and save the links in a Word file.

**Hawthorn** · 01-01-2008, 05:19 PM

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Maybe more people will join each team and die very soon?

I'm curious to know how they'll balance the two storylines. The Boaties, Jack, Kate, Juliet and Hurley are a lot of stuff on one side. And we don't know if they'll have with them more people who won't board the boat/elicopters at the last moment.

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What I meant was that Michael would be on the show very briefly if he's in the coffin. That's why I think it should be someone else.

But my explanations sound too weird even for me so I'll skip that part.

But wasn't you of the opinion Micheal in the coffin wasn't possible because too predictable? I think he isn't him because IMO he'll stay on the island if he makes it back (do we know for sure that he goes back, btw..?)

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I'd like to know at least the episode in which it happens.
Reactions are better than nothing but that's not going to reveal alot more.

Vague comments can be frustrated. Also, a person saying they were impressed by episode X means nothing to me, maybe I'm going to hate what that person found great.

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BTW A lot of people are disappointed with the opening scene.

It's kinda lame, honestly. Yes, it gives you some WTF moments, but after that? Nothing. He could just have escaped the mental institute.

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I might upload those I like on Imageshack one day and save the links in a Word file.

Og gosh, that will take forever!
I'll create a photobucket account with all of them for you, as soon as I have time.

misteriosa · 01-01-2008, 05:39 PM

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But wasn't you of the opinion Micheal in the coffin wasn't possible because too predictable? I think he isn't him because IMO he'll stay on the island if he makes it back (do we know for sure that he goes back, btw..?)

That's right, I thought Sawyer was in the coffin.

But most people think it was Michael so I was thinking about it and something just didn't seem right.

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Vague comments can be frustrated. Also, a person saying they were impressed by episode X means nothing to me, maybe I'm going to hate what that person found great.

Exactly.
Some people thought Charlie and Claire's goodbye scene was sad. I didn't.

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It's kinda lame, honestly. Yes, it gives you some WTF moments, but after that? Nothing. He could just have escaped the mental institute.

I think you're right. He's probably trying to escape.
People were expecting another eye shot and a perspective of something entirely new like Desmond&the hatch and Juliet&Othersville. FF are old news.

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Og gosh, that will take forever!
I'll create a photobucket account with all of them for you, as soon as I have time.

Are you serious?

Don't bother. I have a photobucket account but I almost never use it since it takes quite some time to get the username and password right.