Josh Holloway - *SPOILERS* #16: So, about those kids in tattered clothes... - Page 2

**Hawthorn** · 12-31-2007, 10:12 AM

Maria, maybe Kristin thought people would expect Kate to side with her "boyfriend" shrug: , but really, I think no one would be surprised by Kate siding with Jack.

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I don't either. To have a person accused of murder in house-arrest seems pretty unbelievable, but I think that might happen. That's what I expect to see before and during the trial. Afterwards, I think she'll be found not guilty and free. All that thanks to some deal made with the bad guys, whoever they are.

I swear that if Kate is released for some lame reason like lack of evidence, I'll scream.

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Does anyone really care about Arzt? So much that he's been heaviliy featured in two mobisodes? I don't think so.

Hey, if Frogurt got one, I think it's fair Arzt is featured in 2.

P.S. sorry for being so slow, I just phones all my uncles and aunts for the traditional "Happy New Year from your favourite niece".
10 calls.

ALEXA82 · 12-31-2007, 10:14 AM

Fran, Misty- I see you two in 2008

Let´s hope Lost will rock our socks!

Take care and

misteriosa · 12-31-2007, 10:25 AM

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I swear that if Kate is released for some lame reason like lack of evidence, I'll scream.

I believe it will have something to do with Dharma.
ME mentioned "deals" and I think Kate's might be about her trial.
I really don't want Oceanic Six to be forced to do anything. I want their choices to be made willingly no matter how hard they may seem.

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P.S. sorry for being so slow, I just phones all my uncles and aunts for the traditional "Happy New Year from your favourite niece".
10 calls.

That's a lot of phone calls.
My Mum is in charge of that task.

Thanks for dropping by, Alexa.

**Hawthorn** · 12-31-2007, 10:51 AM

Thanks Alexa!

Best wishes for tonight, hope you'll have a lot of fun whatever are your plans!

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I believe it will have something to do with Dharma.
ME mentioned "deals" and I think Kate's might be about her trial.
I really don't want Oceanic Six to be forced to do anything. I want their choices to be made willingly no matter how hard they may seem.

Me too. Looking at the FF now, I hope what I saw was real guilt on Jack's part, like in admission he did a mistake taking a certain decision.
But really, I can't be sure of anything when saint Jack is involved.

(I can forgive Sayid if they offered him a reunion with Nadia)

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That's a lot of phone calls.
My Mum is in charge of that task.

She wants me to call, wish Happy New Year, and then hand the phone over to her so it looks like I had the nice idea to call.

misteriosa · 12-31-2007, 01:48 PM

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(I can forgive Sayid if they offered him a reunion with Nadia)

But they tricked him and replaced her with Elsa.

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She wants me to call, wish Happy New Year, and then hand the phone over to her so it looks like I had the nice idea to call.

Nice try, but too old to fool anyone.

I was thinking - if we see Kate preparing eggs in the opening scene of the fourth episode, it would probably happen in her place (apartment, house).
So how will they avoid telling us who "he" is in such case?
Or maybe there is no "he" at that point in the FF, it's probably soon after the rescue. "He" might come into play later.

**Hawthorn** · 12-31-2007, 02:56 PM

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But they tricked him and replaced her with Elsa.

People will pay for that.

Elsa will be sacrificed to the Island. And I'll add Champignon to be sure the gods are placated and Dharma learnt its lesson.

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Nice try, but too old to fool anyone.

My mind loves me to be appear polite and lovely. My "Hey, I could've gone to spend 2 weeks in Nepal for the new year!" excuse didn't help.

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I was thinking - if we see Kate preparing eggs in the opening scene of the fourth episode, it would probably happen in her place (apartment, house).
So how will they avoid telling us who "he" is in such case?
Or maybe there is no "he" at that point in the FF, it's probably soon after the rescue. "He" might come into play later.

I had your same chain of thoughts today and came to the same conclusion.

I think this FF happens before the FF in the S3 finale, although from this part of Ryan's description of Jack and Kate meeting in the parking lot outside the courtroom:

Down in the underground parking lot for the capitol building, near the guard booth and lower entrance off Miller St., a clean-shaven, leather-jacket wearing Jack has a brief conversation with the striking, poised Kate we saw at the end of Season 3. Jack steps away from an older, brown pickup truck, not unlike the one Locke drove in one of his flashbacks, to talk to Kate. There’s some awkwardness, but there are also some smiles. Eventually, Jack helps Kate get into a yellow taxi cab, and watches as it drives away.

we know at the time of the trial he has the same leather jacket and the same car we saw in TTLG, only he is clean-shaved.

Anyway, if the "he" is a person surveilling Kate, the fact we see Kate's apartment doesn't mean we have to meet him during the trial, maybe *after* she got free she starts to work for the people who helped her.

misteriosa · 12-31-2007, 03:09 PM

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People will pay for that.

Elsa will be sacrificed to the Island. And I'll add Champignon to be sure the gods are placated and Dharma learnt its lesson.

My mind loves me to be appear polite and lovely. My "Hey, I could've gone to spend 2 weeks in Nepal for the new year!" excuse didn't help.

You're funny.

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I had your same chain of thoughts today and came to the same conclusion.

Soulmates.

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I think this FF happens before the FF in the S3 finale, although from this part of Ryan's description of Jack and Kate meeting in the parking lot outside the courtroom:

we know at the time of the trial he has the same leather jacket and the same car we saw in TTLG, only he is clean-shaved.

Judging by her clothes, make-up, hair-do and shoes in the photos from ep 4 set, Kate seems to be striking, poised just like in the finale.

I don't know what to think. It would be logical for the trial to happen pretty soon after the rescue, especially if they are all famous and there was not time for Kate to hide from poice.

Maybe that scene from the parking lot was shot for another episode, but I doubt it. I really think they'll use it to reveal it's a FF not a FB.

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Anyway, if the "he" is a person surveilling Kate, the fact we see Kate's apartment doesn't mean we have to meet him during the trial, maybe *after* she got free she starts to work for the people who helped her.

You could be right. If someone from the Dharma is supervising her, then it makes sense.

See, how nicely we've avoided to talk about "him" being the son?

**Hawthorn** · 12-31-2007, 03:39 PM

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You're funny.

Wait to read me after midnight. Drunk.

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Soulmates.

Awww. ♥ Let's renew out wedding vows!

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Judging by her clothes, make-up, hair-do and shoes in the photos from ep 4 set, Kate seems to be striking, poised just like in the finale.

I don't know what to think. It would be logical for the trial to happen pretty soon after the rescue, especially if they are all famous and there was not time for Kate to hide from poice.

Maybe that scene from the parking lot was shot for another episode, but I doubt it. I really think they'll use it to reveal it's a FF not a FB.

You're probably right, but it's so much of a repetition of the S3 finale, too much. :/ Me do not like... using the same trick isn't great, but with the same kind of scene..? Lame.
I'm too confused about the possible timeline.

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See, how nicely we've avoided to talk about "him" being the son?

I'll come back after midnight, I'll give you my best wishes later.

misteriosa · 12-31-2007, 03:57 PM

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Awww. ♥ Let's renew out wedding vows!

Okay, honey.

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You're probably right, but it's so much of a repetition of the S3 finale, too much. :/ Me do not like... using the same trick isn't great, but with the same kind of scene..? Lame.
I'm too confused about the possible timeline.

We'll just stop speculating about it.

ETA: I was reading Dark's replies to the entry about his sources and postings. Here are some that may interest us:

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also... generally speaking.... from what you know, can you say how good you think the season will be, or would that be breaking the trust of your sources?

2) Impression of Season 4
There will be a little post on Jan 1st or Jan 2nd which will have some small impressions... but what I can tell you is that it sounds absolutely fan-bloody-tastic!

That's very soon.

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Dark, from what you already know so far, does the first 8 episodes seem better than the first 8 episodes from previous seasons?

IMHO Yes.

Do we get answers? important ones? I don't really care myself, but with the strike going on, i am afraid people will loose interest after the first part of s4 if there aren't any answers...

Can't really comment.

Is it so fan-bloody-tastic that even Lost haters could start watching it?

Lost haters will always be lost haters

Also what are the episodes we should look forward to? I need this, so i can see when i have to take a day off at work lol

All of them. Watch this space for a post in a couple of days that should give you a good idea as to the really good ones.

**Hawthorn** · 12-31-2007, 07:09 PM

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Okay, honey.

Now, that smilie tops every other cute smilie. Ever.
Awww!

(you know in reality my hand would go lower, right?)

Happy New Year!

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We'll just stop speculating about it.

If we did it for all the spoilers we don't have enough information about, we're screwed.

Thanks for posting those answers!
See, maybe your expectations for a spoiler on Jan. 1 weren't crazy.

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All of them. Watch this space for a post in a couple of days that should give you a good idea as to the really good ones.

This doesn't help much.

misteriosa · 12-31-2007, 07:24 PM

The mouse looks a bit tipsy.
I think he's had a few before champagne (or spumante).

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(you know in reality my hand would go lower, right?)

My hand would move too, Sawyer.

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If we did it for all the spoilers we don't have enough information about, we're screwed.

Sometimes it's better to have fewer clues (kids in tattered clothes) because there are less limits to our speculations. We've had quite a few spoilers about Kate's episode and now we don't know how to put them in right order.

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See, maybe your expectations for a spoiler on Jan. 1 weren't crazy.

Thanks for saying that.

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This doesn't help much.

I know. What does he mean?

**Hawthorn** · 12-31-2007, 07:41 PM

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The mouse looks a bit tipsy.
I think he's had a few before champagne (or spumante).

LOL, my thoughts after reading your line, in order:
1) her mouse is tipsy? Is it a metaphor, she's talking about the cursor as symbol of our messages tonight?
2) Ahhh, the animal! But the expression doesn't look too drunk. Hmm.
3) Ahhh 2. The red cheeks!
4) Oh my... but... there is cheese in his bottle. O_o
5) Wait... there is anything liquid made of cheese?

I'm 100% sober.

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My hand would move too, Sawyer.

*grins* Sassafras, you know I like a little fight before the hot and heavy part.

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Sometimes it's better to have fewer clues (kids in tattered clothes) because there are less limits to our speculations. We've had quite a few spoilers about Kate's episode and now we don't know how to put them in right order.

I think the problem here is the fact the spoilers we have aren't fitting logic, lol.
Kate prosecuted in Los Angeles? Kate staying free for all the time until the trial? The pieces of the puzzle don't fit with my possible scenarios.

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I know. What does he mean?

His line sounded like pure advert for his site, lol.

misteriosa · 12-31-2007, 07:55 PM

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LOL, my thoughts after reading your line, in order:
1) her mouse is tipsy? Is it a metaphor, she's talking about the cursor as symbol of our messages tonight?
2) Ahhh, the animal! But the expression doesn't look too drunk. Hmm.
3) Ahhh 2. The red cheeks!
4) Oh my... but... there is cheese in his bottle. O_o
5) Wait... there is anything liquid made of cheese?

I'm 100% sober.

All I meant was that his cheeks are read, but your explanations could work too, I guess. Under certain influences.

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I think the problem here is the fact the spoilers we have aren't fitting logic, lol.
Kate prosecuted in Los Angeles? Kate staying free for all the time until the trial? The pieces of the puzzle don't fit with my possible scenarios.

That too. So many illogical things are supposed to be perfectly normal in the Lost world. It looks like a nice dose of suspense of disbilief will be needed for season 4.

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His line sounded like pure advert for his site, lol.

Bingo!

OT: If you ever thought I wasn't stupid, this should convince you otherwise.
Yesterday I accidentally pressed the scroll wheel on my mouse and saw some kind of arrow on the screen. Then I realized I could sroll the page without actually moving my index finger and making that annoying sound all the time.
It only took me about 10 years.

**Hawthorn** · 12-31-2007, 08:37 PM

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Under certain influences.

LMAO!

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That too. So many illogical things are supposed to be perfectly normal in the Lost world. It looks like a nice dose of suspense of disbilief will be needed for season 4.

I still hope the "slips" are justified exception, but the fact no ones of the super geeky Lost fans has come up with anything isn't promising.

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OT: If you ever thought I wasn't stupid, this should convince you otherwise.
Yesterday I accidentally pressed the scroll wheel on my mouse and saw some kind of arrow on the screen. Then I realized I could sroll the page without actually moving my index finger and making that annoying sound all the time.
It only took me about 10 years.

If it can make you feel you better, I found out about that by accident, too!
Hey, I still have to get how I managed to turn the computer off via keyboard.

misteriosa · 12-31-2007, 08:53 PM

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I still hope the "slips" are justified exception, but the fact no ones of the super geeky Lost fans has come up with anything isn't promising.

Trust me, they'll come up with something eventually.
We can only hope it'll make some sense.

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If it can make you feel you better, I found out about that by accident, too!
Hey, I still have to get how I managed to turn the computer off via keyboard.

That's a bit comforting but I bet it won't take you more than a decade to figure it out.

I hope Dark will have some spoilery details tomorrow, not just a general review of some episodes. He already said they are fan-bloody-tastic. Now all we need to know is why.