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Old 07-01-2008, 02:43 PM
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Josh News and Articles #9: Hey Josh! What cha doin'?

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July 1, 2008
Short Q&A with Josh in the French magazine "Télé Cable Sat": look at the cover and read the article. (thanks to lyly ford)

June 30, 2008
Josh was nominated in the TV Gal - 2008 Amy Awards and placed second with 22,6% of the votes for "I Know You’re Fictional But Will You Marry Me Anyway Or Hottest Actor". (thanks to deej240z)

June 17, 2008
Josh was nominated at the Teen Choice 2008 Awards in the category "Choice TV Actor: Action Adventure". If you are a teen (12-19) you can vote for Josh every day until August - go HERE

June 2, 2008
Watch with Kristin Show: Top 10 Future Husbands & Wives of 2007-'08 - Josh is #8 in her list. (thanks to misteriosa)

June 1, 2008
Josh ranked #59 in the AfterElton.com's Hot 100 for 2008

May 30, 2008
TV Guide Cheers & Jeers - Cheers: Sawyer Makes a Splash (thanks to Dreamer 4 Ever)

May 26, 2008
USA Today - Celeb Watch: Josh Holloway finds himself on 'Lost' | YouTube link for the video | Photoshoot (thanks to Honey-Girl)

May 24, 2008
Josh's Cool Water ad placed 20th in the Daily Record's list of "The Sexiest TV Ads Ever (thanks to misteriosa)

May 19
Josh on The Ellen DeGeneres Show: download the clip on Lost-Media.com | watch it on YouTube: part 1 - part 2 (thanks to Luanne)

May 15, 2008
Josh on Jimmy Kimmel: watch the interview on YouTube (thanks to Luanne) | Josh signing autographs outside the studios (thanks to Lostwith_Sawyer)

May 14, 2008
Josh is #25 in the TV Guide TV's Sexiest Men Of All Time list.

May 13, 2008
Article about the "Just Yell Fire" program on The Huntsville Item (thanks to misteriosa)

May 12, 2008
Josh is #3 in a Hallmark Channel TV's Sexiest Characters poll (thanks to misteriosa)

May 7, 2008
- Rebecca Mader interviewed by Ausiello picks Josh as the sexiest Lost cast member. (TV Guide | YouTube)

- The Magnum campaign starts hitting the media circuit: picture | watch the commercial on YouTube

May 1, 2008
Josh is #2 in Stylelist's 12 Hottest Men on Television list. (thanks to misteriosa)

April 30, 2008
The Honolulu Advertiser - 'Lost' star joins fight against trafficking (+ video) (thanks to deej240z) | YouTube link

April 28, 2008
Josh on TV Guide's TV Sexiest list (scans by Susan) | clip for Josh & Eva Longoria

April 24, 2008
TV Guide counts down the year's sexiest stars (thanks to misteriosa)

April 20, 2008
Josh at the Magnum party: article translated by |..|PuNky..~//] here || clip on YouTube || photogallery + scan by arzu

April 19, 2008
- Magnum press conference - photos: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 || scans by arzu: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4

- article: 'In the press conference some woman told him that she wants to sleep with him and he was surprised and answerd her by showing his ring
And when they asked him about Turkey, He said that Istanbul was a beautiful city and he loved the people & they're kind and worm. After that he said that he absolutely wants to come back with his wife' (translation/re-cap by |..|PuNky..~//] )


- interview translated by |..|PuNky..~//] here

- short clip on YouTube | Josh on TVShow Magazine - ShowTV clip on YouTube

April 18, 2008
Josh on the Beyaz Show: Josh's arrival | part 1 | part 2 | part 3 | part 4 (thanks to misteriosa)

April, 17,2008
- Magnum promotional photos: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4

- clip with all the frames of the ad (thanks to misteriosa)

- Set photos of the filming of the Magnum ad by Odul via DarkUFO + 1,2, 3, 4, 5, 6 & 7 by deadly_angel @ dizifilm.com + 4 more pics from PopCandy

- scans by arzu: 1 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10

- zchicek from Lost-Forum posted this YouTube link of Josh's appearance on the Star TV News - YouTube - Josh Holloway Lost'dizi Sawyer'i türkiyede star haber

- Turkish Daily News - Josh is in Istanbul, Turkey, to shot the new Magnum Double ad

- Arrival at the Istanbul airport: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 || video by HABERTÜRK || video by CNN Turk

- Josh posing with his wedding cake topper statuine (photo by troyboy @ conceptart.com - thanks to misteriosa for the heads' up)

April 15, 2008
TV Guide set visit - cover | page 1 | page 2 (scans credit: sammie323 @ lj)

April 12, 2008
US Weekly scan with set pictures (thanks to rcerione)

April 11, 2008
Entertainment Weekly visits the set of Lost: video part 1 & 2 || article: page 1 | page 2 | page 3 | page 4 (scans by Susan)

March 25, 2008
Josh is nominated for "Sexiest Man's Mane" and Sexiest Badass for TV Guide Sexiest Stars 2008 (thanks to misteriosa)

March 14, 2008
In the ABC postcast of this week Harold Perrineau discusses the return of Michael on the show, and the other cast members make some comments there is a very short bit with Josh as well, at minute 03:50:

YouTube - Lost 4x08 Meet Kevin Johnson Official Video Podcast

YouTube - Josh talking about the beginning of season 3

March 7, 2008
Time Magazine - Q & A: Talking with Josh Holloway

March 4, 2008
TV Guide - Lost: The Cast's Burning Questions Answered!

February 26, 2008
Josh on Sky Magazine: cover preview | page 1 | page 2 | page 3 (scans by Chris)

February 20, 2008
Josh nominated as 'Best Supporting Actor in a Television Series' in the 34th Saturn Awards

February 14, 2008
From a Rebecca Mader interview for USA Today (thanks to misteriosa):
- 'She uses it to describe Meryl Streep, with whom she shared a scene in The Devil Wears Prada. Also among the "wicked": Kate Walsh, whom she appeared alongside in Private Practice's first episode. And perhaps the most wicked of all: Josh Holloway, one of her new actor pals on ABC's Lost.'ù
- 'She has engaged in squirt-gun fights with Emilie de Ravin (Claire) and traded dirty jokes with Holloway.'


February 10, 2008
Josh cover + interview for TV&Satellite Week (thanks to misteriosa)

February 4, 2008
- TV guide blurb about Josh's vacation in Colorado (scan by Susan)

- Josh in the CTV promo: watch the clip on DailyMotion (thanks to Luanne)

January 31, 2008
Lost comes back on TV with the premiere of its fourth season, at 9 p.m. on ABC.

January 30, 2008
- BuddyTV - Exclusive interview with Josh Holloway

- Josh is nominated Sexiest Beach Body by Victoria's Secret. (thanks to misteriosa) | E! "What's Sexy" clip (credit: deej240z)

January 28, 2008
The cast of Lost on The Daily 10: watch the clip on YouTube

January 26, 2008
Whisper TV premiere on TNT.

January 25, 2008
- Henry Ian Cusick about Josh in a Parade.com interview (thanks to misteriosa):
Q: Josh Holloway has a lot of attitude onscreen.
"He is the sweetest guy in real life. He’s Mr. Energy. When he’s on set, he’s laughing and joking with everyone. He’s having a blast."


- The Lost cast interviewed by Sky One: watch the clip on DarkUFO | watch it on YouTube

January 22, 2008
Josh on the cover of TV Guide. (thanks to deej240z)

January 17, 2008
Entertainment Today - The Lost cast talks about how life has changed | picture (thanks to misteriosa)

January 7, 2008
Josh is #27 in the 50 Chicos m�*s sexy list made by the Spanish magazine Vale.

December 30, 2007
Josh and Yessica photographed at the LAX on JustJared.com (thanks to Crystaline)

December 24, 2007
Josh is #3 in the Top 7 of '07: Sexiest Man list made by BuddyTV (thanks to Shnicky)

December 23, 2007
Check out the goodies on the Cool Water website (including: high quality version of the ad & backstage video)

December 20, 2007
Josh in Harold Perrineau's Stay Strong music video - watch it (thanks to misteriosa)

January 17, 2008
Russian theatrical release for 'Whisper': source | poster

December 13, 2007
Carlton Cuse talks about Josh in a New York Post interview (thanks to misteriosa):
HW: Is there any one actor that you've loved watching mature through the whole Lost process?
CC: I think really Josh Holloway. You know who was not really known to audiences and I think he's just fallen into the role of Sawyer and he's become this huge star and he still is as great a guy as he ever was and he's just so charming and wonderful and I think he so was deserving of the success that's come to him. And just sort of watching him finally sort of achieve his dream kind of late. You know I mean, and after a lot of struggles, that's really, really satisfying. And I think he's just a fun, wonderful actor and a lot of writing for Josh is like wish fulfillment writing. You know I wish I could be as cool as him and as funny and quip-y as he was.


December 11, 2007
First HQ Sawyer promo pics for Lost episode 4x01: 1; 2; 3; 4.

December 10, 2007
Josh is on the cover of TV Guide: "Josh has another small pic on the cover of TV Guide. It's another issue where they have one person in the center of the mag with a big picture surrounded by smaller pics of other people. Kate Walsh (Addison) has the big picture and the feature article. Josh is the one they chose to represent Lost on the cover of the magazine." (thanks to: addicted2much)

December 3, 2007
706 screencaps of Whisper downloadable HERE (credit: deej240z)

November 28, 2007
Australian DVD release for 'Whisper': source | cover artwork

November 27, 2007
- the Making Of Whisper DVD feature is online: Watch it on YouTube | screencaps (credit: deej240z)
- US DVD release for 'Whisper': announcement on the official website | cover artwork | press release

November 26, 2007
Three more 'Whisper' stills from the movie official website: 1; 2; 3

November 23, 2007
'Whisper' gets released in Italy. (source)

November 18, 2007
Josh in a PSA about human traffiking: Watch it on DailyMotion

November 11, 2207
From the Summit Daily News: Josh and his wife spotted vacationing in Breckenridge, Colorado (thanks to misteriosa)

November 7, 2007
Josh designed a Christmas card with part of the proceeds going to the Toys For Tots Foundation: press release; card preview

November 3, 2007
Josh placed third in the poll held by Entertainment Weekly, 'Ultimate Male Hottie of All Time' (thanks to Louise)

November 1, 2007
Josh in the 100 Sexy Men in 1 Minute clip by People magazine

October 19, 2007
Fan meeting Josh at the airport (+ photo): blog report

October 15, 2007
First Lost S4 promo pics from the Oct. 22 issue of TV Guide: cover ; article; page 1; page 2

October 31, 2007
Josh placed second in the poll Los mas guapos de la television on Hola.com with 3,352 votes and an average of 8.0

October 24
6 HQ photos of Josh as Intelligence Agent Ajay for the Command & Conquer videogame from the 'Kane Lives Media Kit": see all the pics HERE

October 14, 2007
'Whisper' theatrical release in Romania (source)

October 13, 2007
From Honolulu Star-Bulletin.com: Josh and Michael Emerson in a dinner party at Cassis the previous week.

October 5, 2007
Josh in the Spanish magazine "TV mas": scan | translation /credits and thanks to Veronakat)

October 1, 2007
From the blog Popcandy: DCW ad in Prague (thanks to misteriosa) | more ads pics thanks to rcerione: Prague 2; Prague 3; Istambul

September 29, 2007
From mochakiuder's blog: Josh at a party in Hawaii with Jorge and other members of the Lost crew.

September 28, 2007
Josh is #5 in the Entertainment Weekly poll Ultimate Male Hottie, '90s to today - photo (thanks to misteriosa)

September 13, 2007
deej240z screencapped the Whisper scenes featuring Josh: download the zip file (216 caps) HERE

September 10, 2007
- From Popsugar.com: a new photo of Josh - pic 1; pic 2
- By TVScoop.tv: Lost spawns the 'Sawyer' hairstyle (thanks to misteriosa)

September 7, 2007
'Whisper' clip on TerrorFeed.com: watch the whole clip (9 min.) over TF | watch only the Josh scene on YouTube (credits: deej240z @ LJ)

September 6, 2007
Portuguese DVD release for 'Whisper': source | cover

September 5, 2007
'Whisper' gets released in Belgium | poster + pic (source)

September 3, 2007
Nine spanish blogs about media and television got together to determine the "50 Sexiest Men and 50 Sexiest Women on television": Josh is #1 for the men

August 22, 2007
Josh one of the six "Actors and Models" mentioned by Terra. Participa y diviértete en tu portal multimedia (thanks to misteriosa)

August 16, 2007
Josh Halloway wrote and stars in the "Lost: How a Certain TV Mega Hunk Stole My Identity" (thanks to misteriosa)

August 15, 2007
New "Making Of" video for the Davidoff Cool Water ad: watch it on DailyMotion (credit: sawyer840 via DarkUFO's blog) | watch it on YouTube (credit: deej240z @ LJ)

August 4, 2007
Josh in the September issue of Company magazine (UK): page 1 / page 2 (scans by LFG_girl @ Lost-Forum.com)

August 3, 2007
- Second trailer for 'Whisper': watch it on youtube (thanks to Lostwith_Sawyer)
- Josh is in the August issue of Cosmopolitan UK: page 1 / page 2 (scans posted by Scotty @ Lost-Forum)

July 27, 2007
- Making-of video of the Davidoff Cool Water ads: Vanity Fair online or watch it on youtube (thaks to Crystal and deej240z @ LJ) | pics from the site: a / b / c / d (thanks to deej240z @ LJ)
- 'Whisper' gets released in Mexico | poster

July 26, 2007
First trailer for Whisper: original source | watch it on youtube

July 20, 2007
Josh in the August issue of Cosmopolitan, Italian edition: page 1 / page 2 (scans by Jay_ti) - English translation here (thanks to misteriosa)

July 16, 2007
From Stalpulse.com: Josh Holloway Doesn't Want Free Clothes

July 15, 2007
Josh in the UK supplement magazine Live, interview titled "It's A Man's World": cover / excerpts from the article: here, here and here (thanks to misteriosa)

July 13, 2007
- Second commercial (?) for Davidoff Cool Water: watch it on youtube (thanks to misteriosa)
- from Contactmusic.com: Holloway fan inks actor's face onto bottom. (thanks to misteriosa)

July 8, 2007
First Davidoff Cool Water commercial: watch it on youtube (thanks to urgosh19)

July 5, 2007
Josh in the Italian magazine Grazia (#27, July 10 2007): page 1 / page 2 / page 3 / page 4 (scans by Jay_ti) - English translation here (thanks to misteriosa)

July 4, 2007
'Whisper' HQ promo stills (thanks to canburak @ Flickr.com)

July 2, 2007
60 SECONDS Interview: Josh Holloway | Metro.co.uk (thanks to misteriosa)

July 1, 2007
- People - Josh Holloway's no to waxing (thanks to misteriosa)
- Josh is in the August 2007 issue #211 of FHM magazine, UK. Scans: page 1 / page 2 (scans by deej240z @ LJ)

June 28, 2007
Josh is in the July 2007 issue of Cleo magazine, Singapore edition.

June 25, 2007
Josh in the Romanian edition of 'Elle': page 1, page 2, page 3, page 4 (source and credit: Dude! We are LOST! blog)

June 23, 2007
Josh guest-starred in a 1998 music video for a Billie Myers song, 'Tell Me': watch it on YouTube (thanks to Lostwith_Sawyer)

June 22, 2007
- Article about the DCW campaign: ITV News - Lost star in new ad (thanks to misteriosa)
- Video with the backstage of the shooting on MSN: Lost hottie heats up Cool Water (watch it with IE) / watch it on Dailymotion (thanks to DarkUFO)
- Slightly different video on iVillage: 'Lost' star returns to modeling (watch it with IE)

June 9, 2007
Josh spotted in Florence, Italy: paparazzi pic

June 4, 2007
Josh won in the 'Best supporting actor' category of the II Spanish Awards Mundoplus.tv 2007

June 3, 2007
Josh in a German magazine for the Davidoff Cool Water campaign: scan (thanks to Honey-Girl)

June 1, 2007
Article about Josh new face for Davidoff Cool Water in the German magazine TV-Spielfilm: scan1 / scan2 (thanks to Kathu @ L-F.com) + English translation (thanks to Honey-Girl)

May 23, 2007
Article on Women's Wear Daily.com: "Lost" Star Holloway to Front Davidoff Cool Water (thanks to misteriosa)

May 22, 2007
- Josh was on the UK tv show 'This Morning': watch the video (thanks to Siobhan @ L-F.com)
- Davidoff Cool Water preview: pics
- Brief report from a blogger invited to “join Coty Prestige to meet the new face of Davidoff Cool Water - Josh Holloway”: here (thanks to misteriosa)
- another blog report (+ 2 pics): Handbag Blogs: Beauty: Jessica Hopper: June 07: Celeb beauty a go-go

May 21, 2007
Josh was in Munich to give an exclusive interview about the Davidoff Cool Water campaing. Clips from the shooting of the ads aired on a German tv show: some caps are here

May 17, 2007
Josh was on the tv show 'The View': watch the video (thanks to txvoodoo @ LJ) / download the video

May 16, 2007
Josh's movie 'Whisper' got released in Philippines.

May 15, 2007
- Josh at the ABC Upfront: photos here and here
- Paparazzi video of Josh with fans outside his NY hotel: http://www.splash-video.com/index2.pgi - click on 'Guest Archive' (thanks to lilika @ L-F.com) /

May 12, 2007
Sioux City Journal: 'Lost' gives Holloway chance to model new life (thanks to Crystaline)

May 7, 2007
Josh Holloway is in talks to star in 'X-Men 4'? (thanks to misteriosa)

May 1, 2007
Josh and other celebrieties in 'Best Life' for the The Best Advice My Father Ever Gave Me **watch the video on the right - requires QuickTimes** (thanks to misteriosa)

April 30, 2007
Josh on the cover of the American TV Guide: scans - 1 / 2 / 3 / 4

April 21, 2007
Wilhelmina men go from runway to red carpet ... - USATODAY.com

April 17, 2007
Josh interviewed by Kristin of E! on the set of Lost: watch the video

March 29, 2007
Interview, deleted scene, blooper scenes of Josh starring in the video-game 'Commander and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars' , from the DVD bonus disc: watch the video (thanks to Deej @ L-F.com)

March 23, 2007
PAST FRIDAY NIGHT SHOOTS Starring Josh Holloway (thanks to Deej @ L-F.com)

March 21, 2007
Josh on Extra on the set of Lost: watch the clip / download the clip

March 20, 2007
Josh has two pages on TV Guide, he's #4 in their list of the Hottest Male Stars on TV: scan + quotes

March 13, 2007
Josh in 'UK magazine': scans (thanks to Siobhan @ L-F.com)

March 1, 2007
Josh interviewd by 'Elle': Island Fever (thanks to sylvia @ L-F.com)

February 27, 2007
Short interview on 'Cosmopolitan': transcript (thanks to LuvinSawyer @ L-F.com)

February 22, 2007
Josh in 'Best Life': interview available online - part 1 / part 2 (thanks to misteriosa)

October 31, 2006
Katee Sackhoff (Battlestar Galactica) mentions Josh and Yessica while interviewed by Kristin of E! online: "We have the same agent, and I love him, and he has the coolest wife ever, Yessica—she's awesome." (thanks to misteriosa)


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I envy Ellen's hand on his tummy.

Thanks for the new thread!
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Don't worry, I even envy his shirt for embracing him.

I'm reposting the interview with the French magazine "Télé Cable Sat" because it was posted at the very end of the previous thread.
Scans and translation are by lyly ford.

Media Mentions: Josh and Evangeline interview in French magazine
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Josh Holloway (Sawyer)

During a press conference last spring this Californian of 29 (yes i know but we can’t blame them lol josh is hot and he could be only 30 lol) who was elected the sexiest man on tv in 2007 answered some privileged people including us.

Is that true that your role as Sawyer has been a real miracle for you ?
I’ve waited for this role for 10 years ! If it hadn't been for this agent who was looking for a guy for a hair-style magazine, I would have given up on everything. With my wife, yessica, we couldn’t even pay the drafts of the house. And then there was Sawyer ! Did you know that 5 others actors of the show did an audition for the same role?

Isn’t your wife too jealous of your sometimes “hot” scenes with Kate ?
Absolutely not ! She’s even come several times on the set. Weird thing, it’s with evangeline she has sympathized the most doing shopping together. And also, Yessica knows how to make unforgettable massages, I don’t think Kate can do as good.

In this 4th opus, are you satisfied by Kate and Sawyer getting closer?
With Evangeline, we’re very good friends. It’s always better to have intimate scenes with an actress you feel pretty cool with. What satisfies me and gets us close too, is that we’re not part of the list of the real disappeared ones of opus 4. Remember, at the beginning we were 48 survivors...Today, after the strike, Kate and I think we’re REAL survivors !
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Lol, that translation leaves much to be desired.
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Josh Holloway stays 'Cool'
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Josh Holloway has joined the cast of the Polish brothers' new comedy, "Stay Cool."

Holloway will co-star with Winona Ryder, Mark Polish, Sean Astin, Chevy Chase, Hilary Duff and Jon Cryer.

The project, which shoots this month in Santa Clarita, Calif., is described as a "knowing-your-age comedy," centering on a successful author (Polish) who is forced to confront an unrequited high school crush, Scarlet Smith (Ryder), when he returns home to deliver a commencement address to graduating seniors.

Holloway will play the former high school jock and ex-boyfriend to Ryder's Scarlet.

Mark and Michael Polish, who wrote the script, are producing with Jonathan Sheldon, Ken Johnson and Janet DuBois via their new Prohibition Pictures banner. Michael Polish is directing.

Holloway is best known for his role as Sawyer on the hit ABC series "Lost." He is repped by WMA and Brillstein Entertainment Partners.
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WMA and Brillstein Entertainment Partners.
Well. That explains everything.
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Thanks Misty!

It's a new project for Josh, the first we've heard of since 2006, who knows how good or bad it can be, for now I choose to be a bit hopeful, as usual.

At least he'll be able to try something completely different, and see how it goes.

I don't know if I should be happy because I read Winona Ryder's name there, or scared because I also read the casting of Hilary Duff, err...
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I love this thread, Ellen is just Josh is oh so cute.
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Sounds... interesting. That's quite a random lot of co-stars he has, none of which I'm really fans of but I'm going to be optimistic for this one. Thanks for the news and the article from the French magazine .
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I think Josh wanted to work on something this year, considering the waste S4 was for his character on Lost, and this production's filming schedule fitted with his duty in August with Lost.

I usually hate comedy flicks , but I know I'll watch this anyway, for Josh.

The IMDb page for the movie has very little ifno so far:
Stay Cool (2009)
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Thanks Roseli.

They're filming this July, we could get some pics/news from the set.
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They're filming this July, we could get some pics/news from the set.
Santa Clarita is not far from me. I'm wondering if they will film at Hart High School, since it's set at a high school. Will have to do some snooping.

I hope this movie goes well. The filmmakers last movie was The Astronaut Farmer. The one with Billy Bob Thornton. It made it to wide theater release, so... *fingers crossed*
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Santa Clarita is not far from me. I'm wondering if they will film at Hart High School, since it's set at a high school. Will have to do some snooping.
I know this sounds bad but... go and stalk as much as you can if you have the chance to (keeping it legal)!
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I didn't watch that movie, I must check it out and read some reviews.

Would you believe that I'm so not used to hear of Josh in new projects, that this news still has to sink in?
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