[Killith]

Originally Posted by Hawthorn (View Post) It wasn't really the sleeping with Dean the first time what hurt (although, well, it did, because Jess had just asked her to live with him, and although his suggestion was absurd, seeing the two things one after the other kind of broke my tiny heart) but the fact that in the end Rory didn't even want Dean all that much, she just used him because he was safe and familiar... and kept pretending all was cool with the fact that Dean still didn't know what to do with his wife. Then Lofan arrived, and things got even weirder, lol.

yeah you're totally right!! she slept with him and used him and then when he wasn't good enough decided she needed something else... I really like Rory and Jess, loved they saw each other again, though she was not thinking clearly and I was happy that he got his life together and had something good.

Lorelai was great, but she had always had this tendency to react immaturely when it came to love... I still remember her running away from the wedding with Max.

yeah you're right, she was immature, but I think it was also a cute thing... ok... not so cute for poor max, but I was a Luke/Lorelai shipper from episode 1 so... I was glad when she ran away. On the other hand I can relate to her being immature in relationships... i'm terrible... I don't really know whats wrong with me... i'm kinda too scarred to love... maybe that's also why I like her so much

I'm sorry that your family is going through some difficult times - so your mom is still working but she doesn't know when she'll get paid? That's hard. Everyone is saying next year thngs should get better, so here is hope. At least you found this great opportunity and are doing the best with it!

yeah, my mom still has a job, but right now she doesn't know if she will see any money by the end of the month... lets hope she will. it's good that I don't need my parents money right now for studying. I earn my own and I can live quite good with it... I still miss it being home, but I guess it's ok... it's for the best and a great opportunity for me. I really hope next year things are gonna be better, for the sake of my family and of course for everyone else! we will get through this crisis!!

I'm reading some reviews of the episode and a couple of times I had to say, "Huh, when did this happen?", especially for the scenes with Ben/Sun/Fran and flight 316. I was super awake only during the Sawyer moments. Nope, I'm not biased.

yeah I didn't pay attention to the Ben/Sun/Frank scenes... except for Sun hitting Ben with that paddle!! that was almost my favorite scene from that episode!! As long as you don't fall asleep during the Sawyer moments you are not that tired

[Hawthorn]

Originally Posted by Killith (View Post) yeah you're totally right!! she slept with him and used him and then when he wasn't good enough decided she needed something else... I really like Rory and Jess, loved they saw each other again, though she was not thinking clearly and I was happy that he got his life together and had something good.

When Jess came back the first time, it was great. When he showed her the book he had written, and Rory said how she always knew that he could do something like that... it was great. I wish they had left things to that, instead of having her go visit him some time later, to keep her mind off Logan. If she had done that to a random guy she had just met and was courting her, I wouldn't even have judged her... but to Jess, who loved and still had feeling for her?
I think that's when I stopped watching the series, later I only checked some episodes here and there and kept track of the plot reading around, out of curiosity.

yeah you're right, she was immature, but I think it was also a cute thing... ok... not so cute for poor max, but I was a Luke/Lorelai shipper from episode 1 so... I was glad when she ran away. On the other hand I can relate to her being immature in relationships... i'm terrible... I don't really know whats wrong with me... i'm kinda too scarred to love... maybe that's also why I like her so much

The only good thing of that episode was seeing how happy Luke was when he heard that the wedding had been called off. He was super kind with Kirk! That killed me, lol.
But I was feeling too bad for poor Max to symphatize with Lorelai there, although... better run away instead of marrying the guy and dump him afterward.
yeah, my mom still has a job, but right now she doesn't know if she will see any

money by the end of the month... lets hope she will. it's good that I don't need my parents money right now for studying. I earn my own and I can live quite good with it... I still miss it being home, but I guess it's ok... it's for the best and a great opportunity for me. I really hope next year things are gonna be better, for the sake of my family and of course for everyone else! we will get through this crisis!!

Does your brother still lives with your parents, so his pay check can help things at least a bit, or he has his own family?
yeah I didn't pay attention to the Ben/Sun/Frank scenes... except for Sun hitting Ben with that paddle!! that was almost my favorite scene from that episode!! As long as you don't fall asleep during the Sawyer moments you are not that tired[/quote]
That must've been my favorite moment, too. And Ben had it coming, all things considered. it's not like he's helping the Losties for anything more than his own interest.

[Killith]

Originally Posted by Hawthorn (View Post) When Jess came back the first time, it was great. When he showed her the book he had written, and Rory said how she always knew that he could do something like that... it was great. I wish they had left things to that, instead of having her go visit him some time later, to keep her mind off Logan. If she had done that to a random guy she had just met and was courting her, I wouldn't even have judged her... but to Jess, who loved and still had feeling for her?

yep i completely agree with you there!!

I think that's when I stopped watching the series, later I only checked some episodes here and there and kept track of the plot reading around, out of curiosity.

i continued watching just to keep with the story line, but i didn't really like it anymore... they shouldn't have fired amy... she was great...

The only good thing of that episode was seeing how happy Luke was when he heard that the wedding had been called off. He was super kind with Kirk! That killed me, lol. But I was feeling too bad for poor Max to symphatize with Lorelai there, although... better run away instead of marrying the guy and dump him afterward.

yeah, I think lorelai shouldn't have said yes to being engaged in the first place. it didn't really make sense to say yes to him and she took way to long to say yes anyway... all signs that it wouldn't have worked.

Does your brother still lives with your parents, so his pay check can help things at least a bit, or he has his own family?

he lives alone so right now he really has to watch were his money is going. I'm happy that he is now trying to quit smoking... so now he will have more money left and is living healthier.

That must've been my favorite moment, too. And Ben had it coming, all things considered. it's not like he's helping the Losties for anything more than his own interest.

oh he sure had it coming hope juliet does the same thing sometime soon

hey why do you think juliet went onto the time travels with the survivors?? why didn't she stay back in the past with the others? it's been in my head for a while now...

[Hawthorn]

Originally Posted by Killith (View Post) i continued watching just to keep with the story line, but i didn't really like it anymore... they shouldn't have fired amy... she was great...

Sometimes I wonder if Amy wrote certain things at the end of S6, as her way to be vindicated. Because she sure left the next showrunner with an handful of drama and issues to resolve.

yeah, I think lorelai shouldn't have said yes to being engaged in the first place. it didn't really make sense to say yes to him and she took way to long to say yes anyway... all signs that it wouldn't have worked.

Max was adorable though, I never shipped them because I knews they had no future, but it was hard to resist him.

he lives alone so right now he really has to watch were his money is going. I'm happy that he is now trying to quit smoking... so now he will have more money left and is living healthier.

Well, getting rid of a bad habit and saving money in the process is what I call killing tow birds with one stone.

oh he sure had it coming hope juliet does the same thing sometime soon

I would love for her to get some kind of revenge on Ben.
Watching the last episode, I wondered if she and James were already aware or had met little Ben, btw.

hey why do you think juliet went onto the time travels with the survivors?? why didn't she stay back in the past with the others? it's been in my head for a while now...

I think it's because she has been there for only three years, while all the other Others might've spent much more time there.
To be honest, the rules of time traveling are a mystery to me, I totally go with the flow when it comes to the mythology, without asking too many questions.

[Killith]

Originally Posted by Hawthorn (View Post) Sometimes I wonder if Amy wrote certain things at the end of S6, as her way to be vindicated. Because she sure left the next showrunner with an handful of drama and issues to resolve. Max was adorable though, I never shipped them because I knews they had no future, but it was hard to resist him.

I think Amy did that and in the end she tried to fix a few things, because then she was back co-writing

Well, getting rid of a bad habit and saving money in the process is what I call killing tow birds with one stone.

Hi hi, that's just what I think... and I'm happy he doesn't smoke anymore

I would love for her to get some kind of revenge on Ben. Watching the last episode, I wondered if she and James were already aware or had met little Ben, btw.

Oh I think she definitely know!! she's been there 3 years so she has to have seen him... I can't remember how old he was when he came to the island, but I'm sure at 1977 he was already there for a while. I just want to see how they reacted and I want to know what kind of history Ben and Juliet have and why Ben is so "You're mine."...

I think it's because she has been there for only three years, while all the other Others might've spent much more time there. To be honest, the rules of time traveling are a mystery to me, I totally go with the flow when it comes to the mythology, without asking too many questions.

not questioning the mythology seems like a good idea ... I tend to go crazy over some things... I think it might have something to do with her being marked and left behind... the being marked thing has to come into account somewhere... so maybe it has to do with this...

[Hawthorn]

Originally Posted by Killith (View Post) I think Amy did that and in the end she tried to fix a few things, because then she was back co-writing

They just had a few little problems like Christopher, a brand new daughter for Luke, and Rory being a complete different person.
BTW, I never understood why they had Rory say No to Logan at the very end. I didn't like the pairing, but I felt for all the shippers of the couple.

and I'm happy he doesn't smoke anymore

Yep, more than the money, it's the health of his lungs and teeth what matters.
My dad used to smoke when I was little (until I was 6-7) but I remember that I bugged him so much and cried that he quit. I still feel proud - it's hard to say no to a kid looking at you with sad puppy eyes.

Oh I think she definitely know!! she's been there 3 years so she has to have seen him... I can't remember how old he was when he came to the island, but I'm sure at 1977 he was already there for a while. I just want to see how they reacted and I want to know what kind of history Ben and Juliet have and why Ben is so "You're mine."...

They'll probably explore that... probably his obsession started when he was just a teenager... and that could also explain why it got so creepy.
not questioning the mythology seems like a good idea... I tend to go crazy over some things... I think it might have something to do with her being marked and left behind... the being marked thing has to come into account somewhere... so maybe it has to do with this...[/quote]
It would be nice if we got some answers about that, but sometimes when I look back to Season 3, and the introduction of the Others' word, I think the writers mostly trying to introduce then as a group with its own rules and rituals... like they were a cult. Juliet's mark fits with that, but perhaps we won't hear about it anymore because it already served its purpose in episode 3x09.

[Killith]

Originally Posted by Hawthorn (View Post) They just had a few little problems like Christopher, a brand new daughter for Luke, and Rory being a complete different person. BTW, I never understood why they had Rory say No to Logan at the very end. I didn't like the pairing, but I felt for all the shippers of the couple.

Yeah ... I didn't understand that either... I mean the show was finished, why not keep the shippers happy

Yep, more than the money, it's the health of his lungs and teeth what matters. My dad used to smoke when I was little (until I was 6-7) but I remember that I bugged him so much and cried that he quit. I still feel proud - it's hard to say no to a kid looking at you with sad puppy eyes.

That's so true and now I imagine a small kid standing in front of daddy asking him to stop smoking with those puddy eyes

They'll probably explore that... probably his obsession started when he was just a teenager... and that could also explain why it got so creepy.

woah... that will be creepy... well maybe it isn't... we still don't really know what happened to Annie... god that show is just so amazing...

It would be nice if we got some answers about that, but sometimes when I look back to Season 3, and the introduction of the Others' word, I think the writers mostly trying to introduce then as a group with its own rules and rituals... like they were a cult. Juliet's mark fits with that, but perhaps we won't hear about it anymore because it already served its purpose in episode 3x09.

maybe we won't here about that, but it would be nice to know. I hope that up to the end we will get to know some more about the whole mythology... and hopefully it will still be rational

[Hawthorn]

Originally Posted by Killith (View Post) Yeah... I didn't understand that either... I mean the show was finished, why not keep the shippers happy

It looks like happy endings are considered "boring" by showrunners, and probably on GG they didn't want to have both Gilmores in a relationship at the end of their journey.

That's so true and now I imagine a small kid standing in front of daddy asking him to stop smoking with those puddy eyes

I gotta say - I did a good job, but my dad was amazing because he stopped completely in the span of one week. When he gets in mnd to do something, his determination is impressive.

woah... that will be creepy... well maybe it isn't... we still don't really know what happened to Annie... god that show is just so amazing...

For me is a bit confusing to image that what ben did in 2005 led Juliet to flash back to 1977 and influence him when he was just a kid... it sounds like this goes against the whole cause-effect logic we're used to, but I'm pretty curious to see how it all plays out.

maybe we won't here about that, but it would be nice to know. I hope that up to the end we will get to know some more about the whole mythology... and hopefully it will still be rational

I've lowered my expectations to the point that as long as Sawyer isn't revealed to be an alien in the last episode, I'm fine.
Just kidding. I mostly want to know why these specific group of people was brought to the island, and what the island is.
I do have the feeling that only Jack, Ben and Locke will play a big part in the reveals/explanations of the final season, though. With Hurley and Kate as "guest star" during some of the biggest mythology moments.

[Killith]

Originally Posted by Hawthorn (View Post) I gotta say - I did a good job, but my dad was amazing because he stopped completely in the span of one week. When he gets in mnd to do something, his determination is impressive.

That's cool... sometimes I can do that too... but only if I really made about my mind about it

For me is a bit confusing to image that what ben did in 2005 led Juliet to flash back to 1977 and influence him when he was just a kid... it sounds like this goes against the whole cause-effect logic we're used to, but I'm pretty curious to see how it all plays out.

For me this goes against any logic... them being back in the 70s... I hope it's not a time loop. I really hope that Faraday was wrong with his "Whatever happened, happened." I hope there is another explanation.

I've lowered my expectations to the point that as long as Sawyer isn't revealed to be an alien in the last episode, I'm fine. Just kidding. I mostly want to know why these specific group of people was brought to the island, and what the island is. I do have the feeling that only Jack, Ben and Locke will play a big part in the reveals/explanations of the final season, though. With Hurley and Kate as "guest star" during some of the biggest mythology moments.

Sawyer being an alien... I guess you're save there...
I hope that in the end it will not just be about Jack, Ben and Locke... I want everyone to have purpose... I want more Sawyer...

[Hawthorn]

Originally Posted by Killith (View Post) That's cool... sometimes I can do that too... but only if I really made about my mind about it

Willpower isn't my strongest quality, instead.

For me this goes against any logic... them being back in the 70s... I hope it's not a time loop. I really hope that Faraday was wrong with his "Whatever happened, happened." I hope there is another explanation.

I don't know. On one hand, it seems so "empty" to have the characters move back and forth in time only to perform what Destiny wants them to do, but if the past can be changed to get a different outcome in the future, than much of the stuff we have known so far would be pointless.
Maybe only Desmond is the "special one" who can change things, no idea to what extent.

Sawyer being an alien... I guess you're save there... I hope that in the end it will not just be about Jack, Ben and Locke... I want everyone to have purpose... I want more Sawyer...

I hope for something similar, but with all the "special" characters who already have some relevance for the ending of the story (Jack, Locke, Ben, Desmond, Widmore), you are left wondering if there are spots left for Sawyer, Jin, and all the other characters who were mostly in the background when Jacob, time travel, and power struggle to control the magnetic forces on the island came under the spotlight.

[Killith]

Originally Posted by Hawthorn (View Post) Willpower isn't my strongest quality, instead.

I don't know. On one hand, it seems so "empty" to have the characters move back and forth in time only to perform what Destiny wants them to do, but if the past can be changed to get a different outcome in the future, than much of the stuff we have known so far would be pointless. Maybe only Desmond is the "special one" who can change things, no idea to what extent.

the show is too weird for me I can't figure it out... I hope in the end they have a great explanation for everything... I need some conclusions and it better be good ones... so far the writers haven't disappointed us. I hope it stays that way.. I read the ausiello files today... now I'm scared as hell... but in denial!!! everything will turn out how I want it to be

I hope for something similar, but with all the "special" characters who already have some relevance for the ending of the story (Jack, Locke, Ben, Desmond, Widmore), you are left wondering if there are spots left for Sawyer, Jin, and all the other characters who were mostly in the background when Jacob, time travel, and power struggle to control the magnetic forces on the island came under the spotlight.

I think when Sawyer stayed on the island on his own free will he became special too ... see... I'm in denial everything will be just as I want it to be

[Hawthorn]

Originally Posted by Killith (View Post) the show is too weird for me I can't figure it out... I hope in the end they have a great explanation for everything... I need some conclusions and it better be good ones... so far the writers haven't disappointed us. I hope it stays that way.. I read the ausiello files today... now I'm scared as hell... but in denial!!! everything will turn out how I want it to be

I read so many spoilers that now I can't remember what was the latest stuff mentioned by Ausiello.
Sometimes I wish I could stay away from info & spoilers and just enjoy the show episode after episode, but it's too late for that, I've spent almost 3 seasons reading everything I came across, I don't think I can quit now, lol.

I made my peace with some of the themes I don't like in the show somewhere between the end of S3 and S4 - Destiny seems to be more important than Free Will so I know what I should expect. I guess now I just hope that the mythology won't screw up the personalities and decision making process of the characters.

I think when Sawyer stayed on the island on his own free will he became special too... see... I'm in denial everything will be just as I want it to be

I do wonder if Sawyer will play a big role in the plot, perhaps around the end of the series, next year. But every time I try to picture him performing something for the island, I get images of James sacrificing himself to help his friends or to allow Jack or Locke to do what is necessary to save the island...
You can see that I'm not exactly an optimist.

[Killith]

Originally Posted by Hawthorn (View Post) I read so many spoilers that now I can't remember what was the latest stuff mentioned by Ausiello. Sometimes I wish I could stay away from info & spoilers and just enjoy the show episode after episode, but it's too late for that, I've spent almost 3 seasons reading everything I came across, I don't think I can quit now, lol.

I usually don't read any spoilers... especially not from Lost, but I like the Ausiello Files because he's kinda funny and he always tries to get something from Lauren ...

With Lost I meant the thing with Elizabeth and her having a guest role on the new pilot of V. I don't think it will mean she's leaving Lost. So I'm in denial... completely... she's not leaving, nope... not at all

I made my peace with some of the themes I don't like in the show somewhere between the end of S3 and S4 - Destiny seems to be more important than Free Will so I know what I should expect. I guess now I just hope that the mythology won't screw up the personalities and decision making process of the characters.

The island really seems to have it with destiny... I didn't like the idea in the beginning, but at some point I wanted to see how it plays out and I want to find out why the island wants those people... I still can't figure out why they are so special...

I do wonder if Sawyer will play a big role in the plot, perhaps around the end of the series, next year. But every time I try to picture him performing something for the island, I get images of James sacrificing himself to help his friends or to allow Jack or Locke to do what is necessary to save the island... You can see that I'm not exactly an optimist.

you're funny...and your imagination is great and in my view of James you might be right!! I'm trying to be optimistic with this show, but I lately I'm failing...

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