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Old 05-10-2007, 11:23 AM
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Hooligans {S/K} #21: I am a puzzle, you're the missing piece










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Why We Love S/K
1. Because they have a connection.
2. Because she's his 'Freckles.'
3. Because they had the first kiss.
4. Because once you go Sawyer, you never go Jack.
5. Because he knows her type.
6. Because she's seen every square inch of him.
7. Because she made him moan.
8. Because she triggers something in him that's vulnerable.
9. Because they know each others darkest secrets.
10. Because we saw tongue!
11. Because they couldn't say goodbye.
12. Because they've rolled around the floor, several times!
13. Because he got the briefcase for her.
14. Because she has carte-blanche.
15. Because they spent the night together.
16. Because she's his Nurse Kate
17. Because she's his reason to stay
18. Because She was Worth Staying For
19. Because he won´t judge her
20. Because they were the first to kiss in the island
21. Because he wished for her four years before he knew her
22. Because they played "I never"
23. Because they have "something in common after all"
24. Because she just wanted to spend some time with the only other person on this island that just don't belong.
25. Because she was looking for his letter in the botle
26. Because she didn´t say goodbye
27. Because he wouldn't mind sharing a few things with her himself
28. Because he was "protecting" her (Ep. 112)
29. Because he "hate to bicker about positions" (E.112)
30. Because she was on top (E. 112)
31. Because Hoolies are an impatient bunch.
32. Because she got ON THE BED!!
33. Because she bet on him against Jack (Ep. 109)
34. Because her lap is the perfect pillow for him.
35. Because maybe she was not there for the case at all
36. Because she was dieing to get a little closer and warm him up
37. Because they talk one outcast to another
38. Because he doesn´t bore her
39. Because she´ll make him fall in love for the first time
40. Because the head kisses are deep
41. Because she admitted she has feelings for him.
42. Because when he said there was nothing worth staying for, he lied
43. Because her thoughts were of him on the raft, they didn't get to say goodbye
44. Because her "whisper in the ear" technique made him all better
45. Because she sat by his side while he was recovering
46. Because he woke up to the sound of her voice
47. Because they both saw the horse
48. Because they wished they could've said goodbye to eachother.
49. Because we know she really does want to be his nurse.
50. Because they make bananas sexy.
51. Because she wants to wake him up every morning.
52. Because when she helped him up, the sexual tension was nearly explosive.
53. Because Kate could use a little Southern Comfort.
54. Because lets face it we are all Hooligans at heart.


Even TV Guide Loves Them
They aren't officially a couple, but Lost's Sawyer and Kate generate a ton of heat with their spark-filled love/hate attitudes. This unbeatable romantic tension will have to be addressed sooner or later — the island isn't that big. And after the thieving Kate gave the tortured troublemaker one of the hottest kisses of all time, another may send an S.O.S. to Sawyer's heart.

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly interview in Lost magazine:
"I try to analyze the situation as realistically as possible and I can only see Kate and Sawyer growing closer from what's happened. If Sawyer gets back to the island, they should have a new sense of value in each other. They say if you love something, let it go, and then see what happens from there. Not only did they break physically, but they really broke ties emotionally before they left. You see them both gazing out across the beach before they left, looking for each other, so they clearly play a significant part in each other's lives. I also think that what Sawyer gives to Kate is a sense of normalcy and mutuality. When she is around Sawyer, suddenly who she is doesn't have to be hidden and I think she's less ashamed of it. I think she is more able to say, This is who I am. Take it or leave it,buddy! That's a real gift. In real life, usually the people we feel the most in love with and attracted to are the people that allow us to be ourselves- faults and all."

Excerpt from a Josh Holloway interview in Lost magazine:
No doubt fans are eagerly anticipating Sawyer and Kate locking lips again but will his absence truly have made their hearts grow fonder? "I don't know how reuniting with Kate will strengthen or weaken their relationship," reports Holloway. "It is yet to be discovered. However, their current relationship definitely is motivating his will to survive."

Excerpt from a Josh Holloway interview in TV Guide:
Viewers will have a chance to see the softer side of Sawyer as his romance with Kate continues to heat up. "He generally cares [for her]," Holloway says. "She triggers something in him that's vulnerable."

From an Evangeline Lilly interview with E! Online's Kristin Veitch:
"How could anyone choose?" Evangeline Lilly tells me. But she does have an opinion for her alter ego, Kate. "Honestly, I think that I have to say sometimes I feel like Kate is a better match for Sawyer, because they've got a lot in common. I mean, Jack's almost like Kate's hero, whereas Sawyer's like her equal. They're kind of just these sparring partners, and Jack is like someone she almost idolizes and that, to me, is not the kind of relationship I'd want to be in. I don't know about you, but I don't wanna worship the guy that I'm with. I wanna kind of play around with him and be on equal terms with him, so I'm gonna have to go with Sawyer... for now!"

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly interview in the British Elle Magazine:

"Sawyer makes so much more sense than Jack because Kate is inferior to Jack in so many ways at this point. Jack is so righteously superior to her and that's not attractive. She and Sawyer are on a level. They get each other. They might get each other in a depraved, wild way, but at least it's parallel."

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly article in the UK Daily Express:
"Kate has gravitated more toward Sawyer. She's not completeley in love with him yet, but she has an attraction to him."

Excerpt from Evangeline Lilly interview in Brazilian ELLE magazine, August 2006:
"I keep calling the writers asking when Kate and Sawyer are happening."

Excerpt from a Josh Holloway interview in Tv Guide, October 2006:

"She sees right through him," Holloway explains. "She's the little chisel that broke his first wall." [...] "Slowly, he's been falling for this girl."

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly interview on the online edition of the Brazilian magazine Globo, November 2006:

"I believe that romance on the show bloomed on the right moment, and the way it's happening, I believe it's very realistic, without being infantile or gratuitous. It's something genuine, mature and sensitive."

Quotes from the official Lost podcast, December 2006:
Carlton Cuse: But let's talk about Kate hooking up with Sawyer, just for a segue.
Damon Lindelof: Sure, I'd love to. [...]
CC: Was this choice...definitive?
DL: How much clearer could you be about her choice? I mean, who's watching it and going, 'I'm not sure that she picked Sawyer, I think maybe she went with Jack there.' She's had sex with him.
CC: And yet- And yet people actually do, you know, I think certain people maybe just don't value the act of sex as being that important.
DL: I don't- I don't even know how I could possibly respond to that in any PG-13 sort of fashion. But...I will say that when you are curled up naked on someone's chest, as I have been on Carlton's on several- on several occasions...
CC: I knew that was coming.
DL: You...You've made your choice.
CC: Well. And I'm- I thank you for that. I appreciate it. I appreciate your commitment to me.
[...]
CC: I guess if you blow your father up that might not be an illegal act, as having sex with someone doesn't mean you are necessarily committed to them.

Excerpt from a Josh Holloway interview for sci-fi.com:
He said that he had always been personally hoping for Kate to choose Sawyer over her other potential love interest, Jack (Matthew Fox), but was never sure that it would turn out in his favor.

Excerpt from a JH/EL interview in the March/April 2007 issue of Lost Magazine:
"I felt that a huge part of Kate became vulnerable enough to cry out that she loves a man and offer him her kiss. Instead of letting him kiss her. I think because she was stripped so bare, when Sawyer says, " I was trying to give you hope". The idea in all this hell, that he was trying to protect Kate broke her down. It opened her up to offer him this little nugget of love, her kiss. Even after she did it, she was afraid to admit it...when she says I don't know, she knows obviously the actual answer is "I love You" and I don't know how to say it because I am afraid to say it. He is so much like her and when he hears her say that he hears "I love you" and kisses her back. I think the writers did this beautifully because it was real and grown up." (Evi)

Sawyer Season3: "I been with a lot of girls... some of 'em worth the trouble... some not. Every now and again... there's one... one you name dumb stars with."

Official Hooligan Greeting
The Sawyer Tackle

The Drinking Game
That's right, Hooliganians! You can't wait for him to call her 'Freckles.' You get giddy when they're in a scene together. You spend all week thinking about what the next new episode will bring. Now there's a game that's just as crazy as the Hooliganians! The Hooligan Drinking Game.

Kate Gives Sawyer a Longing Look - 1 Drink
After a heated conversation, one of the two walks off and Kate shoots her Lover Boy a longing look (i.e. her thoughts are something along the lines of 'I love you,' 'I want to jump you,' 'Let's ditch this island and go get it on in a motel.')

Sawyer Calls Kate 'Freckles' - 1 Drink
It's self explanatory. Take another sip if he gives one of those cute smirks after he says it.

Kate Breaks Up a Fight Between Sawyer and Someone Else - 2 drinks
Kate tries to break up a fight between Sawyer and someone else and does so while remaining calm, cool, and collected. Half a sip more if it's Sayid.

Sawyer Makes an 'Obscene' Comment and Kate Pretends to be Offended - 1 drink
Yeah . . . we all know she's not offended. Take another 5 sips if she actually doesn't make a fake offended face.

Kate and Sawyer Have Physical Contact - 3 drinks
Kate and Sawyer have some sort of physical contact, be it him on top of her or him protecting her from boars. Take one more sip if it's foreplay.

Kate and Sawyer Kiss - Chug, Chug, Chug!
And then tape the episode so you can watch it again and again.

Sawyer and Kate hook up and then ditch Jack to run off into the jungle to live on their own - Keep On Drinking . . . Never Stop

S1 Moments


S2 Moments


S3 Moments

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The UK promo

(by Lovecat)

- Animations by Lovecat -










SKate Scenes on YouTube

1. First SKate kiss
YouTube - Sawyer and Kate Confidence Man kiss

2. Kate admits that she loves Sawyer
"I love him" scene

3. Kate and Sawyer Cage Scene from 'A Tale of Two Cities'
YouTube - Skate scene

4. Sawyer looks at Kate's Assets from 'The Glass Ballerina'
YouTube - Sawyer Leers at Kate's Ass(ets) - LOST Glass Ballerina 302

5. SKate Kiss from 'The Glass Ballerina'
YouTube - Skate kiss

6. Strawberries and Fishbiscuits.
YouTube - Skate Cage Scene

7. Love Making Scene from 'I Do'
YouTube - Skate Sex

8. Cuddling Scene from 'I Do'
YouTube - Post Coital Scene

9. Hug from 'One of Us'
YouTube - Sawyer and Kate reunion hug

10. Skate sex 2 from 'Catch 22'
YouTube - Skate Sex 2

11. Afternoon Delight from 'Cath 22'
YouTube - Afternoon Delight

12. Tent scene from 'The Brig'
Kate and Sawyer Tent scene - kate, and, sawyer, tent, scene - Dailymotion Share Your Videos


(thank you misteriosa for privinding the links)

Previous Threads

#01: b/c sexually charged nose grazes are the best!!
#02: Cuz there was something on that island worth staying for
#03: We're waiting for that second kiss
#04: We lost faith in the writers, but not in Skate!
#05: The best is yet to come!
#06: "Sawyer is secretely in love with Kate."--Josh
#07: Equality & mutuality. Intensity & depth. Vulnerability & passion.
#08: She's the Little Chisel That Broke His First Wall
#09: Kate and Sawyer Share the Fish Biscuit of Love
#10: I LOVE HIM---KATE
#11: SKate Is Happening! And We All Knew It!!!
#12: They Made Heaven Out Of Hell
#13: They Did And They Liked It
#14: He is her hope, she is his strength
#15: "You see my light and love my dark."
#16: Even Josh has always been on our side
#17: Uncaged and Untamed
#18: She can finally love someone as simply herself
#19: someone name dumb stars with
#20: Pure and unconditional, that's Sawyer's love for her

Future Titles Suggestions
I know we're going to uncover what's sleepin' in our soul
I'm hoping that you'll learn - there is only one and that is you


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Old 05-10-2007, 11:37 AM
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New thread! Thaks for starting it Fran. Love the title
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I feel like Kate doesn't deserve James
Sayid noticed his miserable, exhausted appearance, Kate didn't.
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She was too busy defending her actions and being pissed because Sayid didn't trust her dear Jack. No, she wasn't suspicious about Jack and Juliet leaving the camp after admitting RIGHT IN HER FACE that they have a secret. Jack is good and heroic in keeping things from her and the group, Sayid is unconsiderate, huh?
My feelings exactly. I'm a proud skater through and through, but unless Kate stops putting the Jacka** on a pedestal...she most definitely doesn't deserve James. She's irritating the living hell out of me.
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Same here!
And during the episode you can see that James, even so tired physically and emotionally, is worried about her: her reaction to the content of the tape, and the possibilitythat they couyld take her if they suspect she's pregnant.
And what James got from her during the episode? Nothing. Again. She just keeps taking from him.

At this point, I can only picture two scenarios: all this crappy puppy-dog stuff we've seen is getting to an end, with a light bulb appearing over her head when she'll realize what James means to her, and that so far she's just rtrying to run away from her feelings and the idea of committment, OR the reality is that no matter if and how much she cares about Sawyer, Jack will always be first, and she puts up with his assholiness because she loves him.

I'm so sick of this situation that at this point I'll take anything, just to see this triangle die. Does she want Jack? She can have him, just leave James alone.

With only two episodes before the end of the season, and considering that the finale is jack-centric, I don't have big expectations. -_-
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Thanks for the new thread! I love the title.

How cute is this animation?! They're all protective of one another.



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Kate is too busy 'protecting' and blabbing to the Jacka** to even notice that James has been away from camp and has come back emotionally and physically drained.

I just wish the writers would bring her backbone back...and not be bending over backwards for the screamer (and to also STOP making Jack hero/savior of the show). I so wanted to bit** slap her in last night's episode.
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I was ok with Kate not finding out that he was gone, he was away just about half a day so I don't blame her for that. But the fact that she didn't even asked a "what happened to you" once she took in his state, like Sayid did, that hurt.

I can only hope for a great make up from her part in the last two episodes. I have NO IDEA how they can squeeze romance in such action-packed episodes, but you never know. I'm so depressed, everything positive, every caring gesture or loving word really genuine from Kate could brighten my mood.

Crystal, thanks for the animation!
Actually, I love how they instinctively look for/try to protect the other with their arms.
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I don't know why I'm not more upset with Kate. Perhaps I'm starting to feel indifferent when it comes to her. Who knows.
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I just can't believe that this is the same person that 2 weeks ago was screaming "I'll do anything you want" to stop Pickett from killing James, and before that had spent the night curled up naked on his chest.
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Sawyer knows the adjustment Kate is trying to make and accepts that it's difficult for her. That's why he hasn't put the brakes on their relationship. Who would understand committment/intimacy issues more than James? But the way Kate is going about it is all wrong. The thing I can't figure out is if Kate is aware of how badly she's mucking things up. And whether she'll be able to fix it when all is said and done.

I love the look on Sawyer's face. His expression is so pained. He knows what's on the tape is going to upset her.









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I'm sorry, but Kate's expression in those caps compared with the tenderness and almost defeat in Sawyer's makes me only think that I want to slap her hard.
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Sawyer knows the adjustment Kate is trying to make and accepts that it's difficult for her.
This is the point. Is she really trying? Where, how..? The only effort I've seen is the "clean slate" offer, and in 12 episodes (I'm counting from SIASL to TMBTC) it's not that much. Their relationship is totally unbalanced, and I hate it because one of the things that made me start shipping Skate is how they are (were) on the same level and their ability to reach each other. While James is still capable to sense her mood and her thoughts, she seems miles away, too wrapped up in herself. The only thing I've seen her worried about is fix her BFF relationship with Jack and protect his position in the group, defending his actions no matter what.

IMO, James needs to give her an ultimatum, plain and simple. Ask her if she wants this relationship. Yes or Not, and no more lies. James is going to love and protect her anyway, but I don't want him to keep hoping and waiting for something if she isn't able to give it to him.
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No doubt Kate is a whipped puppy where Jack is concerned. It's been the most grating thing ever since that rescue mission. And I agree that Kate has been taking Sawyer for granted while he's been doing whatever he can to make her happy. Right now, they are very unbalanced. I hope to see that change. And if not, perhaps Sawyer is better off w/o her. I certainly know with whom my loyalties will lie with though. Team Sawyer all the way.
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I can't believe that after three years I may have to agree with Josh's "free agent" comments.

Jokes aside, it's frustrating because after the end of every episode, I say something like: ok, the *insert Kate's weird and/or insensitive action* sucked, but probably in the next episode... And you know what irks me about the "declarations" spoiler? That even if we are lucky and the producers are not totally insane, and it's from Kate to Sawyer, it might happen during another "OMNG we're going to die" situation. So much for having an admission of feelings from Kate without any "circumstance" pushing it. >.<
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I can not to see James in this cap but...
Josh is great!

Thanks Crystal.
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I can't believe that after three years I may have to agree with Josh's "free agent" comments.
Don't say that too loud! He may hear you.
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