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Hooligans {S/K} #20: Pure and unconditional, that's Sawyer's love for her










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6. beautifulgarbage (Rachel)
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11. **Carrie**
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13. Famu
14. jayta
15. -= Lazy Days =-
16. *Marianne*
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20. *Spunky*
21. AsnoCaliente
22. LOVE everybody
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27. Lovesbitch
28. Admiral Yellow
29. Leya
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34. Nerwen Silimaurë (Ray)
35. Kilikena Miki
36. Lazy
37. DJDonkeyGirl (DJ)
38.Talliann
39. ~*Kat*~ (Kat)
40. Rebel'n'Spuffy (Kelie)
41. Indian Summer (Summer)
42. crazylittlecandygirl (Kate)
43. ~*8Kay8*~ (Kaley)
44. daphneejen
45. Tarhiliel
46. rocky845
47. addicted2much
48. Crystaline
49. Ana Luthor
50. CastlesInTheSky
51. WolfHuntress
52. _gloria
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Why We Love S/K
1. Because they have a connection.
2. Because she's his 'Freckles.'
3. Because they had the first kiss.
4. Because once you go Sawyer, you never go Jack.
5. Because he knows her type.
6. Because she's seen every square inch of him.
7. Because she made him moan.
8. Because she triggers something in him that's vulnerable.
9. Because they know each others darkest secrets.
10. Because we saw tongue!
11. Because they couldn't say goodbye.
12. Because they've rolled around the floor, several times!
13. Because he got the briefcase for her.
14. Because she has carte-blanche.
15. Because they spent the night together.
16. Because she's his Nurse Kate
17. Because she's his reason to stay
18. Because She was Worth Staying For
19. Because he won´t judge her
20. Because they were the first to kiss in the island
21. Because he wished for her four years before he knew her
22. Because they played "I never"
23. Because they have "something in common after all"
24. Because she just wanted to spend some time with the only other person on this island that just don't belong.
25. Because she was looking for his letter in the botle
26. Because she didn´t say goodbye
27. Because he wouldn't mind sharing a few things with her himself
28. Because he was "protecting" her (Ep. 112)
29. Because he "hate to bicker about positions" (E.112)
30. Because she was on top (E. 112)
31. Because Hoolies are an impatient bunch.
32. Because she got ON THE BED!!
33. Because she bet on him against Jack (Ep. 109)
34. Because her lap is the perfect pillow for him.
35. Because maybe she was not there for the case at all
36. Because she was dieing to get a little closer and warm him up
37. Because they talk one outcast to another
38. Because he doesn´t bore her
39. Because she´ll make him fall in love for the first time
40. Because the head kisses are deep
41. Because she admitted she has feelings for him.
42. Because when he said there was nothing worth staying for, he lied
43. Because her thoughts were of him on the raft, they didn't get to say goodbye
44. Because her "whisper in the ear" technique made him all better
45. Because she sat by his side while he was recovering
46. Because he woke up to the sound of her voice
47. Because they both saw the horse
48. Because they wished they could've said goodbye to eachother.
49. Because we know she really does want to be his nurse.
50. Because they make bananas sexy.
51. Because she wants to wake him up every morning.
52. Because when she helped him up, the sexual tension was nearly explosive.
53. Because Kate could use a little Southern Comfort.
54. Because lets face it we are all Hooligans at heart.


Even TV Guide Loves Them
They aren't officially a couple, but Lost's Sawyer and Kate generate a ton of heat with their spark-filled love/hate attitudes. This unbeatable romantic tension will have to be addressed sooner or later — the island isn't that big. And after the thieving Kate gave the tortured troublemaker one of the hottest kisses of all time, another may send an S.O.S. to Sawyer's heart.

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly interview in Lost magazine:
"I try to analyze the situation as realistically as possible and I can only see Kate and Sawyer growing closer from what's happened. If Sawyer gets back to the island, they should have a new sense of value in each other. They say if you love something, let it go, and then see what happens from there. Not only did they break physically, but they really broke ties emotionally before they left. You see them both gazing out across the beach before they left, looking for each other, so they clearly play a significant part in each other's lives. I also think that what Sawyer gives to Kate is a sense of normalcy and mutuality. When she is around Sawyer, suddenly who she is doesn't have to be hidden and I think she's less ashamed of it. I think she is more able to say, This is who I am. Take it or leave it,buddy! That's a real gift. In real life, usually the people we feel the most in love with and attracted to are the people that allow us to be ourselves- faults and all."

Excerpt from a Josh Holloway interview in Lost magazine:
No doubt fans are eagerly anticipating Sawyer and Kate locking lips again but will his absence truly have made their hearts grow fonder? "I don't know how reuniting with Kate will strengthen or weaken their relationship," reports Holloway. "It is yet to be discovered. However, their current relationship definitely is motivating his will to survive."

Excerpt from a Josh Holloway interview in TV Guide:
Viewers will have a chance to see the softer side of Sawyer as his romance with Kate continues to heat up. "He generally cares [for her]," Holloway says. "She triggers something in him that's vulnerable."

From an Evangeline Lilly interview with E! Online's Kristin Veitch:
"How could anyone choose?" Evangeline Lilly tells me. But she does have an opinion for her alter ego, Kate. "Honestly, I think that I have to say sometimes I feel like Kate is a better match for Sawyer, because they've got a lot in common. I mean, Jack's almost like Kate's hero, whereas Sawyer's like her equal. They're kind of just these sparring partners, and Jack is like someone she almost idolizes and that, to me, is not the kind of relationship I'd want to be in. I don't know about you, but I don't wanna worship the guy that I'm with. I wanna kind of play around with him and be on equal terms with him, so I'm gonna have to go with Sawyer... for now!"

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly interview in the British Elle Magazine:

"Sawyer makes so much more sense than Jack because Kate is inferior to Jack in so many ways at this point. Jack is so righteously superior to her and that's not attractive. She and Sawyer are on a level. They get each other. They might get each other in a depraved, wild way, but at least it's parallel."

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly article in the UK Daily Express:
"Kate has gravitated more toward Sawyer. She's not completeley in love with him yet, but she has an attraction to him."

Excerpt from Evangeline Lilly interview in Brazilian ELLE magazine, August 2006:
"I keep calling the writers asking when Kate and Sawyer are happening."

Excerpt from a Josh Holloway interview in Tv Guide, October 2006:

"She sees right through him," Holloway explains. "She's the little chisel that broke his first wall." [...] "Slowly, he's been falling for this girl."

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly interview on the online edition of the Brazilian magazine Globo, November 2006:

"I believe that romance on the show bloomed on the right moment, and the way it's happening, I believe it's very realistic, without being infantile or gratuitous. It's something genuine, mature and sensitive."

Quotes from the official Lost podcast, December 2006:
Carlton Cuse: But let's talk about Kate hooking up with Sawyer, just for a segue.
Damon Lindelof: Sure, I'd love to. [...]
CC: Was this choice...definitive?
DL: How much clearer could you be about her choice? I mean, who's watching it and going, 'I'm not sure that she picked Sawyer, I think maybe she went with Jack there.' She's had sex with him.
CC: And yet- And yet people actually do, you know, I think certain people maybe just don't value the act of sex as being that important.
DL: I don't- I don't even know how I could possibly respond to that in any PG-13 sort of fashion. But...I will say that when you are curled up naked on someone's chest, as I have been on Carlton's on several- on several occasions...
CC: I knew that was coming.
DL: You...You've made your choice.
CC: Well. And I'm- I thank you for that. I appreciate it. I appreciate your commitment to me.
[...]
CC: I guess if you blow your father up that might not be an illegal act, as having sex with someone doesn't mean you are necessarily committed to them.

Excerpt from a Josh Holloway interview for sci-fi.com:
He said that he had always been personally hoping for Kate to choose Sawyer over her other potential love interest, Jack (Matthew Fox), but was never sure that it would turn out in his favor.

Excerpt from a JH/EL interview in the March/April 2007 issue of Lost Magazine:
"I felt that a huge part of Kate became vulnerable enough to cry out that she loves a man and offer him her kiss. Instead of letting him kiss her. I think because she was stripped so bare, when Sawyer says, " I was trying to give you hope". The idea in all this hell, that he was trying to protect Kate broke her down. It opened her up to offer him this little nugget of love, her kiss. Even after she did it, she was afraid to admit it...when she says I don't know, she knows obviously the actual answer is "I love You" and I don't know how to say it because I am afraid to say it. He is so much like her and when he hears her say that he hears "I love you" and kisses her back. I think the writers did this beautifully because it was real and grown up." (Evi)

Sawyer Season3: "I been with a lot of girls... some of 'em worth the trouble... some not. Every now and again... there's one... one you name dumb stars with."

Official Hooligan Greeting
The Sawyer Tackle

The Drinking Game
That's right, Hooliganians! You can't wait for him to call her 'Freckles.' You get giddy when they're in a scene together. You spend all week thinking about what the next new episode will bring. Now there's a game that's just as crazy as the Hooliganians! The Hooligan Drinking Game.

Kate Gives Sawyer a Longing Look - 1 Drink
After a heated conversation, one of the two walks off and Kate shoots her Lover Boy a longing look (i.e. her thoughts are something along the lines of 'I love you,' 'I want to jump you,' 'Let's ditch this island and go get it on in a motel.')

Sawyer Calls Kate 'Freckles' - 1 Drink
It's self explanatory. Take another sip if he gives one of those cute smirks after he says it.

Kate Breaks Up a Fight Between Sawyer and Someone Else - 2 drinks
Kate tries to break up a fight between Sawyer and someone else and does so while remaining calm, cool, and collected. Half a sip more if it's Sayid.

Sawyer Makes an 'Obscene' Comment and Kate Pretends to be Offended - 1 drink
Yeah . . . we all know she's not offended. Take another 5 sips if she actually doesn't make a fake offended face.

Kate and Sawyer Have Physical Contact - 3 drinks
Kate and Sawyer have some sort of physical contact, be it him on top of her or him protecting her from boars. Take one more sip if it's foreplay.

Kate and Sawyer Kiss - Chug, Chug, Chug!
And then tape the episode so you can watch it again and again.

Sawyer and Kate hook up and then ditch Jack to run off into the jungle to live on their own - Keep On Drinking . . . Never Stop

S1 Moments


S2 Moments


S3 Moments
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The UK promo

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- Animations by Lovecat -










SKate Scenes on YouTube

1. First SKate kiss
YouTube - Sawyer and Kate Confidence Man kiss

2. Kate admits that she loves Sawyer
"I love him" scene

3. Kate and Sawyer Cage Scene from 'A Tale of Two Cities'
YouTube - Skate scene

4. Sawyer looks at Kate's Assets from 'The Glass Ballerina'
YouTube - Sawyer Leers at Kate's Ass(ets) - LOST Glass Ballerina 302

5. SKate Kiss from 'The Glass Ballerina'
YouTube - Skate kiss

6. Strawberries and Fishbiscuits.
YouTube - Skate Cage Scene

7. Love Making Scene from 'I Do'
YouTube - Skate Sex

8. Cuddling Scene from 'I Do'
YouTube - Post Coital Scene

9. Hug from 'One of Us'
YouTube - Sawyer and Kate reunion hug

10. Skate sex 2 from 'Catch 22'
YouTube - Skate Sex 2

11. Afternoon Delight from 'Cath 22'
YouTube - Afternoon Delight

12. Tent scene from 'The Brig'
Kate and Sawyer Tent scene - kate, and, sawyer, tent, scene - Dailymotion Share Your Videos


(thank you misteriosa for privinding the links)

Previous Threads

#01: b/c sexually charged nose grazes are the best!!
#02: Cuz there was something on that island worth staying for
#03: We're waiting for that second kiss
#04: We lost faith in the writers, but not in Skate!
#05: The best is yet to come!
#06: "Sawyer is secretely in love with Kate."--Josh
#07: Equality & mutuality. Intensity & depth. Vulnerability & passion.
#08: She's the Little Chisel That Broke His First Wall
#09: Kate and Sawyer Share the Fish Biscuit of Love
#10: I LOVE HIM---KATE
#11: SKate Is Happening! And We All Knew It!!!
#12: They Made Heaven Out Of Hell
#13: They Did And They Liked It
#14: He is her hope, she is his strength
#15: "You see my light and love my dark."
#16: Even Josh has always been on our side
#17: Uncaged and Untamed
#18: She can finally love someone as simply herself
#19: someone name dumb stars with

Future Titles Suggestions
I'm a puzzle, you're the missing piece
I know we're going to uncover what's sleepin' in our soul
I'm hoping that you'll learn - there is only one and that is you


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Old 04-01-2007, 03:43 PM
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Susana, thanks for the new thread!

For a while I'll have to stop the uploading of the pictures in a page because I'm on dialup and our opening post would take my browser ages to upload all the stuff, and I hate it because I always enjoy taking a look at the pretty art.

3 days until 'Left Behind' airs... I'm very curious and extremely scared at the same time.
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No problem. Thanks for providing the pretty title Fran

I'm worried for the last spoilers too but I still want to believe in the writers and hope the best for Kate and Sawyer, as individuals and together
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I still have hope in the potential of our ship, but to be honest, almost all my trust in the writers and their ability to make that potential fully bloom, grow and develop as it deserves, is gone. I still wish that the amazing chemistry between Josh and Evi, their popularity, and how much the media love both their characters and know how much they "sell", will do the magic in the end. It's bad to have faith in those things more than in the writers' capability to see the best road to be taken, but I'll take what I can. So far, they have proved with stepping back from Kate's choice, that they haven't enough courage to choose a direction and fully commit to it.

We're back on the rollercoaster, lol.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Kate's episode.
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Thanks for the new thread! I the title!

I'm incredibly anxious for that insiderscoop this week. I'll be all over that thing like white on rice.
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He usually posts the afternoon of the day an episode airs, right?
And after 'Left Behind' we'll probably get the "reunion" promo.
*is super anxious*
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So I'm sure you've read the latest spoilers? Honestly, I've ranted/speculated/analyzed all day. I'm all talked out. More sex is awesome, but jealousy sex is despicable. The two incidents could possibly not be connected, but it damn sure sounds like it is.

That said, Team Sawyer all the freaking way.
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*points to her new signature*

You all know me, so there is no need to say how negative and mad I am about all the new spoilers. I swear, any time I've been pessimistic, I've contemplated the possibility I was wrong and apologized in advance for my eternal role of downer and my weakness. This time I don't feel any of that, I feel like thanking my pessimism, because a couple of hours ago I had tears in my eyes thinking about the scenario that's waiting for us in the enar future, and I was prepared to take bad things. If I had been optimistic before, I would have smashed my computer and some random forniture, lol.
Spoiler:
The description for episode 3x17 mentions a "jealous Kate" and an "unwitting Sawyer", Tv Guide says there is lots of Skate sex in the future. To me, it's pretty clear that she'll seek comfort and love from Sawyer because she'll feel left behind by Jack. It that weren't enough, the "betrayer" in her episode is Locke, that means neither her or any other Losties will really blame Jack for his deal with the Others and the "friendly time" he spent with them. In the promos, Kate can only thinking about asking Locke about Jack before he leaves, and punches Juliet after she accused her to have broken Jack's heart.

Even if the sex is not in episode 17, Kate goes to Sawyer because she's jealous of Juliet. Not "worried", or "suspicious". Jealous.

How can this be good? Seriously.

Not to mention all the other stuff... ultimate relationship, love square, Sawyer's accusation of pity sex being at least in part right.

I can only see a bad outcome from all of this.
And even if in the end Kate will fall in love with Sawyer, he's going to suffer like crazy, and after everything he has done, it's just cruelty and sadism.

I'm starting to believe they just used and want to use in the future the explosive chemistry between Josh and Evi. The "precious feelings" by Kate's part are for Jack, while she waits that he accepts her.


For proofs of the ridicolous amount of ranting/depressed/sad messages I've posted since I've known about the news, check the Spoilers & Speculations thread.
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I don't even know what to think or say anymore. All I'm worried about in the outcome of this madness is Sawyer. He deserves better.
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I love your sigs! I think I'll do the same!

Spoiler:
My worst fear all along was that the writers were using Sawyer until the BIG romantic hook-up b/w Jack&Kate in the end. I'll be SOOOOOOOOO mad if this turns out to be the case.

If what the spoiler is implying is true, I think the majority of (sane) Jaters will be upset with Kate too. Either way, the show is letting people down. *sigh*

What a crap day for Skaters.
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That's my worst fear too . But I'm in total shock, are those lines of storyline develpment true? Please say isn't so
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My worst fear all along was that the writers were using Sawyer until the BIG romantic hook-up b/w Jack&Kate in the end. I'll be SOOOOOOOOO mad if this turns out to be the case.

If what the spoiler is implying is true, I think the majority of (sane) Jaters will be upset with Kate too. Either way, the show is letting people down. *sigh*

What a crap day for Skaters.
And I'm not so sure about Jaters. They only want Jack and Kate together no matter what, I don't think they truly appreciate Kate character as an individual
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Susana , thank you for the new thread.
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All I can say is that no matter how this storyline will be developed, it's turning the romance on Lost into a soap-opera. Comfort sex, a woman loving two men at the same time, a triangle soon to be upgrated into a square, jealousy, catfights... This is ALL I NEVER WANTED to watch. Even if Sawyer and Kate will have their happy ending (but right now I don't believe it), I'm going to see the fictional couple I loved the most in all my years of tv fan treated like s**t. To me, there are things more important than ships, like the integrity and dignity of the single characters. When to portray a love story you sacrifice the characters, I stop caring about the love story.

I'm with Crystal. If things go how the spoilers gotten so far seem to imply, I just hope they won't use/humiliate too much Sawyer. For Kate, there wouldn't be a real way to repair/control the damage, in my eyes at least.
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After a good night's sleep, I've resigned myself to be indifferent. I'll believe it when I see it. So there!

And some people are irking me on LF with their digs at how pro-Sawyer/anti-Kate the thread seems. Hello? Who's turning to whom over Jacket jealousy here? It sure isn't Sawyer. I think he freaking warrants some sympathy if Kate isn't giving him any. No one is calling Kate names like the Jaters did after ID, but that description isn't painting Kate in a great light and criticizing people who aren't happy about it is silly. I am a Sawyer fan before Skate and I have no problems judging him when he screws up, but this isn't one of those times. That said, I hope we're all jumping the gun and we end up looking silly if the two incidents aren't connected. I'll take feeling like a fool over being brokenhearted anyday.

And the worst part is that Catch-22 airs on my birthday.
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Even if the spoilers aren't connected, either the ABC description for episode 3x17 lies, or Kate is indeed jealous of Jack and Juliet and turns to Sawyer because of that. In a way, she's using him, even without the sex. She doesn't go to him because she wants him, what triggers it is her hurt feelings for Jack.
Sawyer has used her in TLC, but playing with her trust and her dislike of Ana Lucia, not with her heart! How can people not to see the ENORMOUS difference here? And it's happening not before Kate made him believe she loves him in I Do, it's not happening when they hadn't shared such intimacy, but after that. It's happening now, and it's going to confirm all the insecurities and the fears Sawyer has had lately and in the previous two seasons.

I'm sorry if it makes me biased and unsensitive towards Kate, but I put the hurt of a man who is in love with just one woman for the first time in his life and isn't reciprocated on a different level than the hurt of a woman who still doesn't know who she wants and suffers because one of the men she loves is paying attention to another chick.

TEAM SAWYER once again, and I don't care how I will be judged because of that.
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