Josh Holloway - Gold & Blue (J&J) #4: "The romance between Juliet and Sawyer [was] the season's most winning story line." (EW) - Page 2

**Hawthorn** · 06-04-2009, 02:28 PM

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we still have a few post to go

We're having a pretty fast pacing lately, though.
Ok, we'll start getting worried when we reach page 15.

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I check Fanfiction.net 3 times a day

These two have ruined us.

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I just checked it and I know what story you mean... great one!!! I love frustrated Juliet right now and Sawyer is so cute and at the same time just perfect... I just read the new chapter over my lunch break

Wait, new chapter?
Weren't both her stories one-shots? She continued one of them? Yay!
*goes to check*

Killith · 06-04-2009, 02:45 PM

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We're having a pretty fast pacing lately, though.
Ok, we'll start getting worried when we reach page 15.

I noticed that too... but our posts are shorter now

... don't have real topic here

I will try to do something tonight...

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These two have ruined us.

they sure ruined me...

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Wait, new chapter?
Weren't both her stories one-shots? She continued one of them? Yay!
*goes to check*

she updated one today

... my college is looking at me funny because I'm laughing at the computer

**Hawthorn** · 06-04-2009, 03:05 PM

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I noticed that too... but our posts are shorter now... don't have real topic here

We've slipped into meta talk, because we're using the thread to discuss the thread itself, and its opening post.

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I will try to do something tonight...

Really, no rush. I haven't even started yet.

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she updated one today... my college is looking at me funny because I'm laughing at the computer

I'm a master at missing stuff that's under my nose, I was sure "Nothing for nothing" was an angsty one-shot, lol.
I just saw the second chapter, I should read it tomorrow to have breand new reading material.
Today I already had your story.

Killith · 06-04-2009, 03:29 PM

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We've slipped into meta talk, because we're using the thread to discuss the thread itself, and its opening post.

but that's also important

.... and it's not Off topic

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Really, no rush. I haven't even started yet.

I thought you were already almost finished

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I'm a master at missing stuff that's under my nose, I was sure "Nothing for nothing" was an angsty one-shot, lol.
I just saw the second chapter, I should read it tomorrow to have breand new reading material.
Today I already had your story.

only one story a day

... ok... I'm not going to tell you how much I read...

....me -->

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siobeehan · 06-04-2009, 03:29 PM

Wow, thanks for the new thread! That seemed to come much faster this time

I'm sorry I can't add anything or help with the OP - I'm useless at anything to do with graphics unfortunately

It sounds like you guys have good stuff planned though! I hope The Incident stuff isn't too hard to go back to though. I'm not as bad as I was when I watch it now, but the pain is definitely still there.

That fic you guys are talking about is so good! I'm so glad she decided to continue it, can't wait for the next part

I also just read another really interesting fic, with a different take on the "reset" idea. It's over here if anyone wants to have a read.

**Hawthorn** · 06-04-2009, 03:48 PM

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I thought you were already almost finished

You should know by now that being slow and procrastinating are two of my strongest qualities.

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only one story a day... ok... I'm not going to tell you how much I read....me -->

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LOL!! I've started to save some stuff for later because there isn't a lot out there, if there is another rain week-end in store for me I need something to make it a bit better.

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I'm sorry I can't add anything or help with the OP - I'm useless at anything to do with graphics unfortunately It sounds like you guys have good stuff planned though! I hope The Incident stuff isn't too hard to go back to though. I'm not as bad as I was when I watch it now, but the pain is definitely still there.

No apologies!

First, you're already helping partecipating to the discussion, and you can help us decide what to put in the OP, which quotes/scenes/comments.

Perhaps if I rewatched the finale scenes it would help me to deal with them in the long run... after the 24 hours of crying of the first day after the episode I chickened out on doing it again.

That fic you guys are talking about is so good! I'm so glad she decided to continue it, can't wait for the next part

I also just read another really interesting fic, with a different take on the "reset" idea. It's over here if anyone wants to have a read.[/quote]
Thanks for the link! I just read the prologue, sounds nice.

This line is gold for the closure of a chapter

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"Sorry Sunshine, didn't know I had to ask yer permission."

rcerione · 06-04-2009, 04:15 PM

Killith · 06-04-2009, 04:17 PM

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I'm sorry I can't add anything or help with the OP - I'm useless at anything to do with graphics unfortunately

It sounds like you guys have good stuff planned though! I hope The Incident stuff isn't too hard to go back to though. I'm not as bad as I was when I watch it now, but the pain is definitely still there.

yeah... we'll find a way to get you to do something

I can't watch it again.. so far the going through the caps has been ok... but I'm still unable to rewatch

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That fic you guys are talking about is so good! I'm so glad she decided to continue it, can't wait for the next part

I also just read another really interesting fic, with a different take on the "reset" idea. It's over here if anyone wants to have a read.

I read that fic!!! It's really nice and it's a completely different take on the reset thing... I love really really grumpy Sawyer

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You should know by now that being slow and procrastinating are two of my strongest qualities.

mh ok... I'll keep that in mind

... lets hope we get the pretty OP for the next thread and not for the one after that

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LOL!! I've started to save some stuff for later because there isn't a lot out there, if there is another rain week-end in store for me I need something to make it a bit better.

mh ok... I get what you mean... that's why I started rereading old stuff... but I have to read new chapters on James and Juliet stories as soon as I see them

ETA: @ rcerione: I love that!!! Did you hear us?? Is that pretty art for us??

... uh... I'm getting desperate, I'm really terrible with artwork myself

siobeehan · 06-04-2009, 04:19 PM

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No apologies!

First, you're already helping partecipating to the discussion, and you can help us decide what to put in the OP, which quotes/scenes/comments.

Well I can certainly do that! Anything S/J related to think about is always a very good thing.

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Perhaps if I rewatched the finale scenes it would help me to deal with them in the long run... after the 24 hours of crying of the first day after the episode I chickened out on doing it again.

It might do, yeah. I can't say much because I constantly watched the finale scenes after I saw the episode, and I think possibly having watched it so many times now has made it a bit easier. At the same time, I think time is a big help, and, since it's been so long since you first saw it, it could be a lot easier now. You'll definitely have to watch them again though - they're painful and awful to watch, but at the same time so amazing.

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Thanks for the link! I just read the prologue, sounds nice.

This line is gold for the closure of a chapter

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Hee, yes, that is a great line! There's more interaction between them in the first two chapters as well, the author is really great with the characters. And is apparently going to be writing a lot more of the story, so I'm looking forward to seeing where it's going!

ETA: That art is beautiful!

**Hawthorn** · 06-04-2009, 05:06 PM

Lovely banner! Thanks for sharing Roseli!

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mh ok... I'll keep that in mind... lets hope we get the pretty OP for the next thread and not for the one after that

We can do it, tomorrow I plan to do those animations and try to put some pics together in a decent way, if I manage it.

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mh ok... I get what you mean... that's why I started rereading old stuff... but I have to read new chapters on James and Juliet stories as soon as I see them

Fanfics are for you what spoilers are for me.

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Well I can certainly do that! Anything S/J related to think about is always a very good thing.

Awesome!

Perhaps I should take a look to the S/J thread in the Lost section for inspiration.

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It might do, yeah. I can't say much because I constantly watched the finale scenes after I saw the episode, and I think possibly having watched it so many times now has made it a bit easier. At the same time, I think time is a big help, and, since it's been so long since you first saw it, it could be a lot easier now. You'll definitely have to watch them again though - they're painful and awful to watch, but at the same time so amazing.

I swear I can't remember when the (possible) loss of a fictional character hit me so hurt, I think never. If it had been the end of the series, it would be easier, much more easier. But seeing images from those scenes reminds me that I will most likely watch a Juliet-free Season 6 and it's a pretty depressing thought, no matter how much I try to swallow it.

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Hee, yes, that is a great line! There's more interaction between them in the first two chapters as well, the author is really great with the characters. And is apparently going to be writing a lot more of the story, so I'm looking forward to seeing where it's going!

That's great because IMO the S/J fanfom truly need some good multi-chaptered stories, the majority I've seen around are all one-shots and drabbles.

Killith · 06-04-2009, 05:37 PM

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Hee, yes, that is a great line! There's more interaction between them in the first two chapters as well, the author is really great with the characters. And is apparently going to be writing a lot more of the story, so I'm looking forward to seeing where it's going!

I agree... the characters are really well written and I'm really looking forward to more

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We can do it, tomorrow I plan to do those animations and try to put some pics together in a decent way, if I manage it.

tomorrow sounds good

I'm going out again tonight and I hope you sleep well now or I hope you're already in bed

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Fanfics are for you what spoilers are for me.

I think you can say that... I'm almost as bad with the fanfics as you are with the spoilers

**Hawthorn** · 06-04-2009, 05:50 PM

I couldn't resist in the end, and read the second chapter of "Nothing for nothing"... and now I want more. Argh.

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tomorrow sounds good I'm going out again tonight and I hope you sleep well now or I hope you're already in bed

The night is still young.

Hope you'll have a nice night out, you're becoming quite a party girl

, kidding!

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I think you can say that... I'm almost as bad with the fanfics as you are with the spoilers

Considering I just gave in to the temption of a fic, I guess I'm even worse than you, lol.

TRoss · 06-04-2009, 08:02 PM

Wee hoo!! A new thread already! Love the title, too. Seeing all the good press and support makes me feel like I'm not crazy for loving a ship that originated in one season. "It's not just me, right? It did turn out to be pretty cool, didn't it?"

Great job on the OP, Steph.

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Do you even remember the last time you were spoiler-free?

Beginning of S2.

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Unfortunately, I'm not so sure about that. Locke was a choosen one, too, and look at how his "special" story ended. And I know that Sayid is going to be alive next year but I think he could be a goner, too, especially now that we've been said that he has the heart of a murderer (his last childhood flashback).
I really don't know what storyline Sawyer will have next year, I don't even know what the final season will be about... probably the final battle between good and bad? I'm truly lost, also because good and bad have been pretty relative concepts in this show.

Sawyer was one of the "chosen ones" so I think his part will revolve around everyone else's, as you say, "the battle between good and evil." People were saying his storyline was wrapped up THIS season and expected him to die, but he didn't, so I'm guessing they have to have something planned for him. They'd be crazy not to with all the great press the character's been getting this season.

I wouldn't count Locke out yet - I think we may see the ghost of John Locke, much like Christian. I still think all those whispers are spirits of people who died on the Island, so I think Ghost!Locke will be a significant presence. I don't know what could possibly be the plan for Sayid though. If if fact they all shoot to another time with their injuries, it's highly doubtful Sayid would survive long, and we'll have his death early in the season. If things go down differently though and 815 never crashes, then Sayid is never injured (and then Juliet isn't either

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I think Sawyer and Juliet really matched well with their personalities, I like their similarities (the no-BS attitude, the sarcasm, the realism, their "survivor" soul) and differences, like their ways to react to things - James is driven by instinct, Jules thinks everything trough.

Good catch, Fran. Those two really are the ones who see things for what they are. Jack and Kate seem to be in denial much of the time.

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I just checked it and I know what story you mean... great one!!! I love frustrated Juliet right now

and Sawyer is so cute and at the same time just perfect

... I just read the new chapter over my lunch break

Names, woman, we need names!! Or titles, should I say?

Are you talking about that "Nothing for Nothing" one mentioned in the previous posts here?

Killith · 06-04-2009, 10:10 PM

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I couldn't resist in the end, and read the second chapter of "Nothing for nothing"... and now I want more. Argh

These fics are addicting... I want more too

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The night is still young.

Hope you'll have a nice night out, you're becoming quite a party girl

, kidding!

most of the times we only go out to eat... we went to an Italian place tonight... it was a pretty nice restaurant

... tomorrow we're going out to dance

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Considering I just gave in to the temption of a fic, I guess I'm even worse than you, lol.

I never had a doubt about that

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Wee hoo!! A new thread already! Love the title, too. Seeing all the good press and support makes me feel like I'm not crazy for loving a ship that originated in one season. "It's not just me, right? It did turn out to be pretty cool, didn't it?"

yeah, I think everybody just noticed that it feels so right

... they are perfect and they love each other... the quote is really nice and all the reviews they got have been really good.

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Great job on the OP, Steph.

Thank you, but I didn't really do much... we have to work on that OP because we have been neglecting it... I also put you on the list in the OP, hope that was ok

... you know you love that ship so you have to be on there

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Sawyer was one of the "chosen ones" so I think his part will revolve around everyone else's, as you say, "the battle between good and evil." People were saying his storyline was wrapped up THIS season and expected him to die, but he didn't, so I'm guessing they have to have something planned for him. They'd be crazy not to with all the great press the character's been getting this season.

I don't think his storyline is finished and I'm pretty sure that he will be of importance in the last season.
Sawyer is not going anywhere... and I think there is a good reason to why he is on that island

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Names, woman, we need names!! Or titles, should I say?

Are you talking about that "Nothing for Nothing" one mentioned in the previous posts here?

sorry about that

Yeah I meant "Nothing for Nothing".

**Hawthorn** · 06-05-2009, 07:35 AM

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Wee hoo!! A new thread already! Love the title, too. Seeing all the good press and support makes me feel like I'm not crazy for loving a ship that originated in one season. "It's not just me, right? It did turn out to be pretty cool, didn't it?"

I love the support they got and are still getting from the press because it reflects on positive publicity for the work Elizabeth and Josh have done - they are the ones who sold this relationship in only 8 episodes.
It just bothers me that some reviewers and fans have "discovered" Sawyer and Juliet and their emotional capability only now, in S5, when they were pretty amazing and showed their heart even in the past seasons.

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Sawyer was one of the "chosen ones" so I think his part will revolve around everyone else's, as you say, "the battle between good and evil." People were saying his storyline was wrapped up THIS season and expected him to die, but he didn't, so I'm guessing they have to have something planned for him. They'd be crazy not to with all the great press the character's been getting this season.

I sure hope after the "year of Sawyer" he won't go back to stand in the background - I have that fear because with the exception of Jacob's touch, James has never been linked to the mythology before, I really don't know what direction that could take now.
I have to admit I've never really minded the lack of a mythology plot for him because some character were written pretty inconstently to fit their "destiny" and progress the plot, while Sawyer was always free from that.

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I wouldn't count Locke out yet - I think we may see the ghost of John Locke, much like Christian. I still think all those whispers are spirits of people who died on the Island, so I think Ghost!Locke will be a significant presence. I don't know what could possibly be the plan for Sayid though. If if fact they all shoot to another time with their injuries, it's highly doubtful Sayid would survive long, and we'll have his death early in the season. If things go down differently though and 815 never crashes, then Sayid is never injured (and then Juliet isn't either

).

You know, I still have no idea who Christian is/was. I'm not ignoring the possibility he could have been the smoke monster all along - afterall, he helped Locke get off the island, and we now know that John's destiny was to inwillingly work for Esau so the final part of the war could start.
I believe Sayid will die mostly because that's the only solution to write redemption for him at this point - even if death sure is not redemption in my book. But Lindelof said that Sayid didn't shoot little Ben to prevent him from becoming the monster he was as an adult, but driven by the emotional abuse he made him suffer in the future, and a lot of fans already want Sayid to die after shooting a kid. It is almost a Michael-type of situation.

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Those two really are the ones who see things for what they are. Jack and Kate seem to be in denial much of the time.

Yep, I've always thought that Jack and kate were very similar in the "pretending" aspect. Sawyer and Juliet are able to say things like they are, and even when they lied it was never because they were looking for self-reassurance, or to wash their conscience.
Even their clinging to the life they made out for themselves in Dharmaville felt more "genuine" than the denial and delaying of the inevitable we had to watch with the O6, to me at least.

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These fics are addicting... I want more too...

And, we need trees.

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most of the times we only go out to eat... we went to an Italian place tonight... it was a pretty nice restaurant... tomorrow we're going out to dance
I never had a doubt about that

Did you think about me at the Italian restaurant?

I'm really glad you're starting to get cultivate a true social life after the first months of adjustment.

BTW, not to depress the thread, but yesterday Alex reported in another thread that "V" should start filming in August. The Lost cast goes back to set at the same time, so that doesn't make things easier whatever are their project for Juliet in S6.