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Old 09-17-2008, 07:16 PM
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This thread is to collect and discuss all the news, spoilers and speculations about Sawyer in the fifth season of Lost, airing in 2009 and starting to be shot in August 2008.

This post is to collect only the Sawyer-related spoilers/news.



Shooting Dates

5x01 - "Because You Left" : August 18 - ?
5x02 - ? : August 28 - September 12
5x03 - ? : ? - ?
5x04 - ? : September 20 - October 5


Spoilers
September 17, 2008
By John via DarkUFO - Josh, Terry and Juliet (+ Jorge) filming at Ka'a'awa Valley
Just took a Kos Hummer movie tour today. Lost is filming all week in the Ka'a'awa Valley. (Hurley's golf course, plus many other scenes filmed there.)
There is a large "army camp" set, a huge new tower which looks like an oil rig only in wood - maybe a well. I saw Locke and Sawyer for sure. Others spotted Juliet and reports were Hurley was on the set which makes no sense!



September 12, 2008
Casting call for 504: Leon & Vincent + Tony


September 10, 2008
Entertainment Weekly: Saïd Taghmaoui casted as Caesar


September 9, 2008
By Topher via DarkUFO: Sawyer/Juliet/Charlotte/Miles/Daniel sighting + pics taken on Sep. 5 - 1 . 2 . 3
'Anyway we took some pics of the old beach from season 1, the waterfall, the other's houses, etc. At the end of the day we decided to look at one more site, Police Beach, and we came up on them shooting a beach scene. In the scene was Sawyer, Juliet, Charlotte, Miles, AND Faraday. The raft was on the beach. It seemed that Faraday was telling them something but we weren't aloud to get to close. So Faraday's alive or......it's a flashback of some sorts. lol'


September 7, 2008
Ryan Podcast: a collection of the latest spoilers
Re-cap by DarkUFO: Small Cessna Found; Locke and Alpert filming together; Sawer/Juliet/Rose/Bernard filming confirmed; Charlotte and Miles filming together confirmed; Shirtless Sawyer Confirmed; Locke and Marvin Candle seen together on the set although not confirm that they appear on screen together; Construction work taking place in front of the camera + Reports of them filming an Accident/Incident; Locke and Marvin Candle seen together on the set although not confirm that they appear on screen together; Hospital scene in Kahuku; The casting of an Asian baby (Ji Yeon?)


September 5, 2008
DocArzt: Casting call for 5x05 - Brigitte


September 4, 2008
- DocArzt: 4 new roles for 5x03 - Solanga; Abigail; Theresa, janitor

- Ausiello Files: Zuleikha Robinson casted as Ilana


September 3, 2008
By Dustin and Carole via Ryan: Sawyer, Juliet, Rose, Bernard, Miles and Charlotte on set
Dustin: 'Saw Sawyer, Rose, Bernard, Juliet, Miles and Charlotte. First scene we saw had Sawyer, Bernard, Rose, and Juliet. They appeared to be having a conversation in the jungle. Second scene had Charlotte and Miles, going back to camp. We watched for about 90 minutes. According to one of the crew, it was for Episode 5×01.'

Carole: 'We went out and saw them filming a scene with Elizabeth Mitchell and Josh Holloway. We also saw Vincent the dog! The scene had Sawyer, shirtless and in jeans, talking to Juliette. We also think they may have been shooting with “Rose” as well, as when we were walking by, we heard someone ask if Rose was ready and miked up… When we made our way back, security for the property saw us and then walked us through a wooded trail back to our car — because if we would have went back via the beach, we would have been in the shot. As we walked through the woods, we saw some tent-like structures that were probably used at some point for filming.'



August 21, 2008
- Two new characters for 5x02: Darlene & Jill

- Beach Camp set dismantled?


August 19, 2008
Character round-up: Foreman; Martha; Dan; Nigel; Sophie; Caesar; Ilanna

- The Black Rock..?
'The Lost producers are looking for two ships, both need to be seaworthy. The main one they wanted was a big black ominous looking ship, but the ship company didn't have anything that was even remotely similar to what they described. However, they booked another ship and it's going to be a chase ship which goes after the big black one.
The chase ship is the oldest ship in the marina and it looks like it's from the 1500's. Do you know why they would want boats that looked to be several hundred years old?
They want to film out in the Pacific off the California coast in early September.'


- By Doc Arzt: Premiere center on the O6 facing the need to go back
'According to our trusty "Super Sock," (Who did furnish some of the ultra awesome and thoroughly accurate asterix quizzes) "Because You Left" deals with several of the Oceanic Six coming to grips with their need to return to the island... on their own terms. If true, this means season five will get right down to it and do away with the issues of Jack 'convincing' Kate to return right off the bat.
In this sense the statement "Because You Left" deals with not a specific set of circumstances, but multiple character's circumstances.'



August 17, 2008
Lost casting 8 extras, preferably people speaking a foreign language


August 15, 2008
Reuters UK - Matthew Fox gets a raise on "Lost"


August 14, 2008
- Ausiello Files - Casting Scoops: 'Lost' Finds New Villain

- From secretagentman on TWOP: 'Appearing in #502 and #503 will be 'Nigel' and 'Sophie' (names likely will change). Nigel is British, in his late teens. Smart and mature for his age, if a little rough around the edges. Sophie is a British aristocrat in her late teens and appears quite innocent and a little prim, but underneath she is formidable.'


August 11, 2008
- By Jeff Jensen @ EW - 5x01 episode title: "Because You Left"

- The Hollywood Report.com - 'Lost' stars in renegotiation talks


August 8, 2008
ABC Fall Promo 2008 (60 seconds)


August 7, 2008
- Ausiello Files: more details about the two new characters (Caesar and Ilanna)

- Casting spoilers by secretagentman @ TWoP: 'They begin shooting #501 on Aug. 17th. A couple new recurring characters, who may be regulars in season 6. A 40ish dangerous, intelligent man whose intentions are unclear (really? on this show?) and a 30ish charming, brilliant and dangerous European woman with a dark, mysterious past. That's it for now.'


August 6, 2008
Mega Scoop by Matt Mitovich: Jack & Juliet; S5
I know Skaters and Jaters are asking about their Lost couples, but please don't ignore us Jacketeers! Is there hope for a Jack-Juliet reunion? – Tamuna
Matt:
Hope? Sure. It's just a matter of where (back on the island, I can only assume) and when (perhaps as early as this coming season, at least one source tells me). And for those fretting about Elizabeth Mitchell's future with the show, I am assured that Juliet figures very heavily into Season 5. Me, I see her and Sawyer (wet and shirtless or even dry and clothed) taking charge as Locke and his band of worshippers move forth with whatever cockamamy plan they have in mind.



August 4, 2006
- Doc Arzt - Season Five RUMORS & SPOILERS

We'll file this under spoilers, just in case, but here are a few things circulating about that may, or may not, be true and don't seem to be getting any air anywhere else -- along with a few things that are beginning to bubble up.
- The premiere presents a logistical challenge for the cast and crew because for the first time the episode takes place in THREE separate time-lines.
- There have been spurts of crew activity on the island, even though filming doesn't begin until August 18th.
- The cast is reportedly still "spread out." No signs, apparently, that there have been any gatherings for readings or anything of that nature.
- So far there have been NO casting calls for the premiere, at least no public ones. The most recent LOST related casting call was for Dan Bronson for the ARG.
According to Josh Holloway in the new TV Guide, Sawyer will - much to the delight of the ladies - be shirtless during the first few episodes of LOST season five.

General Thoughts
Well, it seems that, by Holloway's comments, we will see the island from the get-go, so that mystery is solved. It appears that season five is going to stick to the concise nature of season 4 when it comes to not stalling ala season 2 and 3, and cover all the bases and a bit more.
The three time-lines sort of, for this episode at least, blows apart the notion that episodes will focus on one time-line with the other being the flashes. Ala, this is an island episode with the flash sequences being off the island Oceanic 6. The question is, would they have ALL episodes jump back and forth between the O6 and the relocated island folk?


- TV Guide interview with Josh (credit for the scan: Susan)
Josh: "Sawyer doesn't find his shirt for the first two episodes, which is really disturbing. Coming after a hiatus, that ain't fair!"


July 28, 2008
- BBC News: TV's Lost audience 'will be lost'

- Watch with Kristin spoiler chat: Sawyer&Kate; S5 structure
Wendy in Singapore: Kristin, thank you for all the Comic-Con reporting. Do you have any other Lost stuff? Especially about Kate seeing Sawyer again?
Actually, I just heard from a reliable source what the new nonflash story structure is supposed to be for season five, and here's what I can tell you:
1. What my source told me seems to jibe perfectly with everything we've heard straight from the mouths of Damon and Carlton at TCA and Comic-Con
2. It could be incredibly confusing
3. Think about the Jin and Sun episode from last season.
In particular, this new story structure (which we'll discuss more as it gets closer to the new season) seems to ease my biggest fear about season five: separated characters and character groups. So before the secret gets out and everyone starts bitching about the confusing part, I'd like to say thanks, writers, for listening to us fans about wanting to see our faves continue to share adventures. Cheers.



July 27, 2008
Damon & Carlton interview for G4 TV
The prodicers say S5 will be a lot different from S4; they have "new tricks in their bag"; both the Island and the outside world will still be part of the show; their main fear for Lost is to get boring and stalling; so they hope to keep the "aggressive storytelling" high; the big question after the end of S4 is, with the Island disappearing, where is the Island and when is the island, hopefully those are the things that will keep the audience engaged; knowing the end date of the series allows them to be always sure of the pace they're keeping.


July 26, 2008
- Official audio podcast from Comic-Con

- Watch with Kristin: funny CC vids

- New Dharma video | Transcript

- Comic-Con live blogging by Jen & Liz @ Washingtonpost.com

- Kristin of E! - Live blogging from Comic-Con
Q: When the hatch imploded and the sky turned purple? Did the Island move then?
A: No. But something happened.

Q: Will there be a Rousseau flashback?
A: We will see Rousseau's story, to use the word flashback might be disingenious. Damon: We're steering away from the flashes.

Q: Will Kate ever see Sawyer again?
DL: Not if Jack has anything to say about it. CC: Yes. Kate will see Sawyer again.

Q: Is there a limit to how far the flashes can go back and forth in time?
A: We're going to tell stories in a new and exciting way. This year, when season five starts, you're not going to know when and where you are. CC: There will be storytelling both on and off the Island and in different periods of time. Guy who makes wooshing sound will remain employed.



July 17, 2008
- iFMagazine: The Scoop on 'Lost' Season 5
'As for teases on the new season, as usual the executive producers are tight lipped, but they do reveal this season will be about the Oceanic 6 getting back to the island.
“The people that are off the island, the island seems to be drawing them back and Ben [Michael Emerson] makes it clear they need to go back to the island,” says Cuse. “So hopefully that’s a lot of what you’ll see of in Season 5 -- the journey how those six return to the island.”'


- Watch with Kristin - ABC's Big Bosses Dish on Grey's, Lost, Desperate and Betty
'Damon and Carlton also were asked about diversity issues, with an implied reference to Harold Perrineau's speculation about how race might have played a role Michael's death, and Damon said, "The show has to be an equal-opportunity murderer...We've killed a lot of white people. And I can almost guarantee we will be killing more white people this season."
When pressed on their plan for season five of Lost, Damon said, "This is a tricky year for us. This is like The Two Towers [portion of The Lord of the Rings saga]...it links us to the final season...We've known a lot of what we want to do there [in the final season] for a long time, but the challenge is how do we make this season engaging and exciting. The worst thing we could ever do on the show is for the show to be boring...If we're going to be bad, we're going to be spectacularly bad."'


- Ausiello - Live Press Tour Diary: ABC Day Two
- 'Cuse hints that "the journey about how those six return to the island" will be a major thrust of Season 5. Adds Lindelof: "You have to break your characters up to create conflict... but you can't play that too long because the audience will get frustrated.... And we have that intensely in mind as we proceed."'
- Cuse teases we'll see more of Daniel Dae Kim "in some form" this season despite Jin's apparent death.



June 21, 2008
Carlton Cuse Interview from China TV/Film Forum (2 clips)
LOST writer Carlton Cuse, along with Ugly Betty writer were a part of a TV and Film Forum in China to discuss their shows and answer some questions about the industry.
- Sawyer is his favorite: Handsome, charming and dangerous, everything he would want to be.
- He gives a shout out to Skaters and Jaters and then mentions that we call them Darlton. Kate will end up with one of the two eventually.
- Production starts in August and Season 5 will air from January to May 2009.


June 6, 2008
Watch with Kristin - Lost Finale: Did You Still Have Some Questions or Something?

Mike in Hermosa Beach, Calif.: I have one question that I can't seem to find an answer to. And it's probably meant to be that we didn't hear, but what the hell did Sawyer whisper to Kate before he jumped?
Survey says: I've checked with my sources, and also a rep for the show, and have been told that the writers are "saving that secret for later on." According to one insider who works on the show, that line (what Sawyer said) wasn't even in the script. I wouldn't put too much stock into the gazillion daughter-in-Alabama (or possibly Albuquerque) "What Sawyer Said" videos currently playing on YouTube, some of which claim to have official and complete subtitles. Bottom line: Only Damon and Carlton know the whole truth, so I'm staying cautiously skeptical for the time being. If anyone sees them at Comic-Con next month (when they officially break their "radio silence"), tackle them and tickle them until they tell us if we can trust this YouTube business, OK?

Jen in Boston: I just noticed on the alternate endings to the Lost season finale on abc.com, the ones with Desmond or Sawyer in the coffin. What is that about?
That is about making sure people like me (evil, evil people) didn't spill the beans on who was in the coffin before the finale aired. And about showing off how hot Sawyer and Desmond are when wearing suits (even if they are dead). Seriously, don't give those endings a second thought, because there's the external drama of managing the fandom and the foilers, and there's the show itself. As Joss Whedon once said, "Trust the tale, not the teller."

Chris in Henderson, Nev.: If next season of Lost is about the Oceanic Six trying to get back, wouldn't it be more than just Emilie de Ravin who would need a holding contract? What about Josh Holloway, Terry O'Quinn, etc.?
They don't need holding contracts because we're going to see them on the Island next season, sillypants. I have no idea how they're going weave together the stories from back in the world with the stories from the Island, but Sawyer, Jin, Locke and company will be present and accounted for. I think a lot of season five will be a great ironic contrast between what the O6 think is happening on the Island, and what the Islanders think is happening in the world (all while the Widmore-Linus war rages around them).



June 4, 2008
Sky One: 'The Answers'
Sawyer may get an haircut. (?)


May 28, 2008
TV & Satellite Week scans - Finale Special
'Josh Holloway, who plays Sawyer, is glad to be a "left-behinder". "At first I got mad and kicked cans around the house, but then I thought, 'Well, I don't want to do scenes in a city. I'm not ready for a courtroom drama, I like the jungle. I like being dirty and sweaty and all messed up'", he says. "And the island is still one of the major characters in the show, and I'm on the island, so I'm with the big guy."'


May 24, 2008
- Los Angeles Times: 'Lost' season finale should answer questions
"All we can say is that it's going to be very hard to get back to the island for those guys," co-creator and executive producer Damon Lindelof said. "But life will continue for the people who are not with them. How are we going to tell that story? We're not going to tell that."

- USA Today Celeb Watch: Josh Holloway (YouTube link)
Q: Do you have any idea where Sawyer is heading, in the future?
Josh: Well, I'm on the island... they alluded to dark things.



May 15, 2008
TV guide interview with co-executive producer Jean Higgins
'And while Higgins can confirm that the latest Jack-Kate flash-forwards transpired well before the Season 3 finale's "We have to go baaaack!" scene, she won't pinpoint what exactly it is that Kate promised Sawyer and thus enrages her fiancé. "I would say that will come out most likely next year," she ventures.'


May 9, 2008
S5 and S6 will have 17 episodes each.


May 5, 2008
Watch with Kristin spoiler chat: Skate; Sawyer; Locke

Ally in Ireland: Please tell me Sawyer doesn't die...He isn't one of the Oceanic 6?
Right, he's not. But Sawyer doesn't die. He's alive. On the Island.



April 23, 2008
A.V. Club interview with Lindelof and Cuse


April 21, 2008
Watch with Kristin Spoiler Chat: Orchid Station, Seth Norris

Francie in Pasadena, Calif.: Can you share Lost info, s'il vous plaît?
According to my sources, the Orchid Station, which we should finally see soon, may be a major set going into next season as well. I've personally decided that's because it is totally a time machine, but I've been known to talk crazy.



February 24, 2008
The New York Post: 10 reasons why 'Lost' is found

2. We learn Jack's fate: The finale introduced the flash forward and showed us Jack's (Matthew Fox) slide into alcoholism when he leaves the island. "The flash forward is part of an overall plan for the show," says Damon Lindelof, co-executive producer. "Season 4 is about who gets off the island and the fact that they need to get back. Season 5 is about why they need to get back, and season 6 is about what happens when they get back."

3. We know who survives: Season four introduced six survivors: Jack (Matthew Fox); Kate (Evangeline Lilly); Hurley (Jorge Garcia), and Sayid (Naveen Andrews). This "Oceanic 6" make it off the island, but one will die - exactly who will be revealed this season. "We've made a choice to focus on the characters that fans have loved since the beginning - Jack, Kate, Sawyer (Josh Holloway), Locke (Terry O'Quinn), Sayid and Hurley," says Lindelof.

8. More sexual tension: The love quadrangle between Jack and Kate, Kate and Sawyer, and Jack and Juliet promises delicious complications, with Jack telling Kate he loves her, Sawyer asking Kate to shack up with him on the island and Juliet saving the day for Jack.



February 21, 2008
- Terry O'Quinn interviewed by The Canadian Press

AP: You've had other disagreements with the writers.
O'Quinn: At the end of Season 3 Locke throws a knife into Naomi's back and I said, 'This really hurts me, It's so not typical and it's so out of character and it seemed gratuitous.' I made the biggest stink I ever made with (executive producers) Damon Lindelhof and Carlton Cuse and they said, 'Look, Locke believes he was doing the right thing. His life was saved, he's been told, he's been instructed. He believes that this is the most dangerous person in the world right now and he does what he does. Do it.' I said, 'Well, you know, if I stab her in the back couldn't I at least shoot Jack in the knee or something?'

AP: What's it like working with such a large cast?
O'Quinn: One of the nice things about this cast, this size of cast, you get a new episode and you go, 'Oh great, now I get to work this little arc with Michael Emerson. We have a lot together. Or with Josh Holloway or Evangeline Lily and it's almost always a pleasure to find out who you're working with. Almost.

AP: Are there some you aren't pleased to work with?
O'Quinn: There've been some rough times but it's very familial in that way. It's like the holidays when you go, 'Oh God, uncle Bob's going to get drunk and abuse my cousin. But we'll get through it.'



February 20, 2008
From EW: Jeff Jensen interview with Lindelof and Cuse

- Naomi and Elsa's bracelets had no mytological purpose, they just thought giving Elsa the same bracelet would bring memories in Sayid;
- Adam and Eve, the skeletons, will be adressed but not this season;
- Episode 4x05 "deals with time travel and operates in different time periods";
- In episode 4x05, we'll find out which kind of calls the satellite phone can do and which it can't, explaining why they can't call the outside world;
- By the end of the season we will know who is in the coffin;
- The larger mythos, like "The Purge", will come back in season 5;
- NO to alternative realities, because they want the audience to invest in the story and the characters and what happens to them - that doesn't exclude time travel and bending of the space/time continuum though;
- By the end of the season, we'll know what happened since the O6 left the island/got rescued, to the point Jack and Kate meet in the airport;
- We'll see more hints to Jacob and the cabin, but that's not something that will be answered by the end of this season;
- the Orchid video showed at Comic Con is important this season;
- the mystery of Ben's list is linked to the wreckage seen at the bottom of the ocean.



January 30, 2008
Doc Arzt interview with Josh Holloway for BuddyTV


January 14, 2008
- Watch with Kristin - Spoiler Chat: Sawyer's death?; Penelope; Kate and one of the Boaties?; Jack&Juliet

Julia in San Diego: Lost! I just read somewhere that Sawyer might not make it through the season. Please save me from a true panic attack and tell me Sawyer isn't going anywhere!
Yes, Sawyer's going to be killed off in episode six, and from what I understand that will be the show's last-ever mention of the character. Audiences just never warmed up to him, and the writers realized it was best to simply give his off-putting storyline to a swift, clear-cut end. (I'm kidding. Seriously now, with all the stressing going on at tvdiva@eonline.com, I worry that you guys are all gonna give yourselves aneurysms. I promise you, if Sawyer were to eventually get killed off, which I consider unlikely in the extreme, the show would at least do it Nate Fisher style—that guy is gonna be around until the end in one way or another.)


Rumors
September 4, 2008
JD via DarkUFO: Details on Call Sheet (Locke + Richard + 2 characters in Egyptian clothes)


Previous Threads

Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: Past, present, future. We'll follow him everywhere.
#3: Nine months of hiatus?! Come to join the therapy group.
#4: 2° FF -> LA hotel, Maria/Fran/Misty+Sawyer. Guess the rest
#5: Our "Lost outcast" investigation? Not obsession, but scientific dedication.
#6: Apparently, it really is about bunnies.
#7: Fear our detective skills, foiler guys.
#8: An apparition? No, he really is filming.
#9: Lost on Monday: nothing better than Sawyer to start a new week.
#10: Trust no one, but the Hawaiian reporters.
#11: First set photos, Sawyer is back in action.
#12: The WTF spoilers are back: Sawyer meeting Fred Flintstones?
#13: Sawyer, Sawyer, Sawyer. (this title tries to compensate the lack of news)
#14: Max didn't make it to the theaters, but Sawyer did.
#15: We're just Sawyer fans, like Carlton.
#16: So, about those kids in tattered clothes...
#17: These boots were made for speculating.
#18: "That guy is gonna be around until the end"
#19: "And here I thought I'd finally be gettin' a good night's sleep"
#20 - Taller ghost Walt ordered: "Put that kitchen counter to good use"
#21: You are our constant, James.
#22: We would like to time travel to when Sawyer gets a storyline.
#23: Unlike the writers, we honor continuity & don't drop storylines.
#24: "Without a juicy Sawyer-centric piece we'll be dying." - DocArzt
#25: Burn, Monopoly, burn.
#26: James Ford and the Secret of the Lost Plotline
#27: A knight without armor in a savage land.
#28: The Finale Follies - Step Right Inside
#29: Bye S4. We won't miss you except for the Big Damn Hero!
#30: Jumping the shark? More like Turning the wheel.
#31: Eight months of sweet nothings whispered in our ears.
#32: Spoilers? We don't need no stinkin' spoilers.
#33: We can only hope.
#34: S5 Sawyer - Free Agent, New Sheriff & King of the Island.
#35: What 'Time' Is It? It's Spoiler Time!
#36: Left-Behinders - The Curse of the Black Rock
#37: Ryan, Dustin & Carole > Michael, Matt & Kristin


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Thanks for the new thread!

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Oh good lord! They better not. I'll call bs on that.
ME hinted at it in this LA Times article:

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He wasn’t made a regular series member until Season 3. Before that, he never knew if Ben was coming or going: “I really didn't. The producers kept me in drips and drabs. They’d say things at the last second like, ‘Don’t pack yet,’ or ‘Can’t go home yet, you’re in the next episode.’ Then it became, ‘Actually we’ll tell you when you can go home.’ I started thinking, ‘Wow, I’m never home anymore. I’m on this show more than a bunch of the people here.’”

Emerson's wife, actress Carrie Preston (“True Blood”), was a “Lost” maniac long before her hubby was cast on the show. She even talked herself into the role of Ben’s mom … sort of: “She made that happen almost by wishing for it. She’d always tell me, ‘If I ever got on "Lost," I'd want to be your mother, like in a flashback.’ I’d tell that story at parties, it was so silly. Everyone would crack up. But lo and behold, when they wrote that big flashback for me, who do you think the producers called?”

He guessed that Ben might be the ubervillain long before anyone told him. In fact, no one ever did tell him: “I learned the story at the same rate the audience was learning it. I didn’t know where it was going. So because I had no backstory, somewhere along the line I began to think about Ben as this mysterious leader figure. When we shot the scene where I was being tortured by the plane crash survivors in the hatch, the director told me to act like I was really scared for my life, like I was innocent, like I wasn't one of the Others. And I said to him, ‘But what if I’m their leader?’ And he looked at me and blinked a couple of times and said, ‘I can’t talk about it’ and ran away. I had to guess what was going on!"

"Lost" actors don’t get scripts until the very last minute, but Emerson said there are ways to get the scoop: “If I wanted to call up certain technical department heads -- like costume or sound -- they have rough scripts early. They know the deal. Sometimes they’ve taken pity on me, letting me know if I need to ride a horse or play piano in an upcoming episode. Otherwise, I’m in the dark. But I've gotten used to it. Now, not knowing is part of the fun."

Really, the actors aren't just being coy. They know nothing. “We never see the writers. They come once a year after the last episode has been written. They come and visit us in Hawaii. And they’re there for an afternoon. That’s it.”

He was just as surprised as audiences to learn that Ben single-handedly killed off all the members of the Dharma Initiative: “I was shocked by the darkness and ruthlessness of that act. That surprised me. I thought the writers were playing a game of "Let’s keep everyone guessing about Ben.' I never thought that they would portray me so villainously as that. I spoke to the writers about that and, of course, they said, ‘Don’t worry, it gets recontextualized.’ Hasn’t happened yet. Maybe they’re just pulling my leg.”

He’s got several of his own theories about Ben: “Is he really an industrialist? Is Ben just a commando leader? Or is it just one dimension of something else? In some other dimension are Ben and Charles Whitmore just two drinking buddies playing a video game? It’s a mystery.”
Who knows if it comes to fruition but I wouldn't be surprised about it at all.

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It's completely impossible for me to tell what any of Kate's motivations are. They've screwed up her character so much I don't know whether she's coming or going.
I completely agree. The Kate character makes no sense to me anymore since the TMFT handcuff scene. IMO, the only logical reaction from Kate in that moment and the following episodes would have been outrage but instead she cried and groveled in front of Jack as if there's no tomorrow. Ever since that episode TPTB have stopped writing Kate like a real person and turned her into a human ping pong ball. Nobody can ever convince me that a real human being would ever behave the way Kate did in Catch-22. No chance in hell.

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Truth to be told, I'm not even looking forward to the O6 return because Jack and Kate back on the island means new possibilities for the writers to do their worst with the triangle of doom, so I think I'll put this topic to rest until we have new spoilers to speculate about. lol
My worst fear regarding the triangle is that we'll get flashes years into the future in season 6 and that Kate will still have problems to make a choice e.g. 5 years after she has returned to the island and that Sawyer and Jack will still wait for her to make up her mind. I want to have believable character behavior on the show and that would certainly not be it. That would be utterly unbelievable and dare I say insane.
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But she loves both of us. Equally. Only in different ways. Or something like that. She also loves Maria. And Crystal. And everyone else who posts here. Fran kicks Kate's butt in that regard.


My worst fear right now is an early reunion of the O6 with the Left Behinders, more precisely, the possibility that we might get something similar to the FFs again. For example, seeing Hurley in a scene with Sawyer, Locke and Juliet on the island in episode 3 before we learn how or when he came back.

This fear wasn't caused by the latest Jorge sighting, because I've mentioned it before. It's did remind me that this is an option and that I'd really, really hate to see it happen.
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We still are without a title and I'm still blank on ideas.
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My worst fear regarding the triangle is that we'll get flashes years into the future in season 6 and that Kate will still have problems to make a choice e.g. 5 years after she has returned to the island and that Sawyer and Jack will still wait for her to make up her mind. I want to have believable character behavior on the show and that would certainly not be it. That would be utterly unbelievable and dare I say insane.
I can totally see the writers do that, unfortunately. Every time we have said, They can't go so low/Dawson's Creek-like with characters who are 30-40, that's exactly what they've done.
When they flashed 2 years into the future, they showed us Jack confirming once again his "I Love You" to Kate, while Kate was still inviting him over after he had stayed away from her and Aaron since the meeting with Claire's mom.
In this show time passes, but things don't change.
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But she loves both of us. Equally. Only in different ways. Or something like that. She also loves Maria. And Crystal. And everyone else who posts here. Fran kicks Kate's butt in that regard.
You take back those offending words.
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My worst fear right now is an early reunion of the O6 with the Left Behinders, more precisely, the possibility that we might get something similar to the FFs again. For example, seeing Hurley in a scene with Sawyer, Locke and Juliet on the island in episode 3 before we learn how or when he came back.

This fear wasn't caused by the latest Jorge sighting, because I've mentioned it before. It's did remind me that this is an option and that I'd really, really hate to see it happen.
But they've mentioned the structure of S5 being something different - doing that would be a complete repetition of S4, characters included.

To me the loger the O6 stay away from the island, the better. I don't miss the triangle, I don't miss Ben bickering with Locke and humiliating him with his surreal smartness and tricks, and I'm looking forward to see the Losties work together without Jack giving orders around.
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But they've mentioned the structure of S5 being something different - doing that would be a complete repetition of S4, characters included.
I know, but Kristin said we'd see the Losties going on adventures together and Matt hinted at an earlier reunion, too. We'll see.

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Same here.
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I know, but Kristin said we'd see the Losties going on adventures together and Matt hinted at an earlier reunion, too. We'll see.
But in such a scenario, how much time has passed on the island for the people left there when Jack & co. are showed back there again? It looks like episode 5x01 starts with the Left-Behinder seen right after the moving in space and time of the place.
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But in such a scenario, how much time has passed on the island for the people left there when Jack & co. are showed back there again? It looks like episode 5x01 starts with the Left-Behinder seen right after the moving in space and time of the place.
That's the beauty of it - we wouldn't know. And it would be different.
I'm just babbling because we don't have much else to talk about.

That Dave guy from Lostpedia didn't go to check the set where Sawyer and Locke were filming, but the one that served as the Butcher shop. Lol He says they're filming in Ka'a'awa Valley (Ke'ehi) all this week (through Friday) so I hope someone else will go there.
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That's the beauty of it - we wouldn't know. And it would be different.
It might look cool at first, but for how many episodes could they keep it up?
A part of me hopes that Jorge was on set because Hurley will appear to someone there on the island. I'm that desperate.
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That Dave guy from Lostpedia didn't go to check the set where Sawyer and Locke were filming, but the one that served as the Butcher shop. Lol He says they're filming in Ka'a'awa Valley (Ke'ehi) all this week (through Friday) so I hope someone else will go there.
Bummer. Our usual luck.
Thanks for keeping an eye on that guy, btw.

Misty, do we have any news about the filming date for episode 3? I don't know if I missed something while I was checking the old thread to update the first post.
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Misty, do we have any news about the filming date for episode 3? I don't know if I missed something while I was checking the old thread to update the first post.
I think DocArzt might've mentioned the date for ep 3 filming, but something's wrong with his spoiler entries at the moment so I cannot check.
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Dudettes, we need a title, what about:
"Give us a good spoiler and we'll give you a good title"
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I think DocArzt might've mentioned the date for ep 3 filming, but something's wrong with his spoiler entries at the moment so I cannot check.
Thanks anyway. I checked Dark but couldn't find anything.

Speaking of Dark - I couldn't vote for Sawyer today. :-/
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Dudettes, we need a title, what about:
"Give us a good spoiler and we'll give you a good title"
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This morning I was thinking whether to vote or not and I finally did. The poll went down soon afterwards. I think the result was 70-30 in favour of Sawyer.
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I like it.
Changed it. I feel "better" with a real title, lol.
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This morning I was thinking whether to vote or not and I finally did. The poll went down soon afterwards. I think the result was 70-30 in favour of Sawyer.
The poll system was so shocked to see you voting, it fainted.

The funny thing is that when I first checked Dark today, I didn't even wait for the poll to load and clicked on the comment section to read them, and I was so pumped to post one myself after I did that... to find the poll down was disappointing, lol. I'll post something anyway before I go to bed if the whole thing is still down by then.
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Kristin's interview with... wait, wait... you guessed it... Michael Emerson - Nominee Michael Emerson Talks Emmys and Lost - E! Online
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Not only did he move the freaking Island in the latest Lost finale (still trying to wrap our heads around that one), his character, Benjamin Linus, is one of the most compelling TV villains of all time—who might not actually be a villain.

At this Sunday's Emmys, Michael is nominated for Outstanding Supporting Actor based on his heartbreaking and fascinating portrayal of Ben's transition from smug, self-righteous supervillain to devastated, guilt-stricken father in the episode "The Shape of Things to Come."

As he gears up for the big day, Emerson was kind enough to phone in—from, who knows, Tunisia?—to discuss his nomination (as well as the show's), along with a little insight into what's to come in season five of Lost...


MICHAEL EMERSON ON THE EMMY AWARDS

Your Emmy category is stocked with fantastic veteran character actors. Have you worked with any of the other nominees in your category in the past? Do you know any of them?

Sure, I know Zeljko Ivanek (Damages) from New York. I'm proud to see how many New Yorkers are in the category—guys with theater in their backgrounds.

The show is up for Best Drama for the first time since season one. What's the feeling about that on the set? Is everyone coming out?
I think a lot of the cast are coming. I think there will be quite a few of us gathered together in one place. I don't know if we'll all be able to sit together, but many of us will be there.

Just beat up the other casts and take whatever seats you want. What's the point of having a 12-person ensemble if you can't gang up on other shows?
[Laughs.]

And how are you feeling about the nomination and the ceremony in general?
It's a tricky business, isn't it? I try not to think about it more than I have to, to tell you the truth. I still maintain that the real honor is the nomination, and it's great to be named—as you say—in a category that is so formidably deep with skillful character players.

One last question about the Emmy Awards, since I work for E!, and I'm contractually obligated to ask: What are you wearing?
I'm wearing the Hugo Boss tux I wore last season. They were kind enough to give me a really pretty suit, and I will wear it until I wear it out.


MICHAEL EMERSON ON LOST

The finale of season four ripped several couples apart. Is the Island the love of Ben's life that he's been kept apart from? Is he sentimental like that?

He sure doesn't seem to be a very sentimental character, but you're right—Ben is separated from everything he loves. He's lost what was even passing for family, so now he really is, sort of, cut loose. He is adrift.

Is he a man with nothing left to lose?
He has less to lose, but I think...He can afford to be a little more mobile, and possibly more ruthless now, but there is a lot to lose. The fight he's fighting, the enemy that he is withstanding is a formidable one, and so much hangs in the balance.

You say withstanding, which calls to mind a siege. Would you say the Island or its protectors are under siege?
On some days, there is that quality about it. [Laughs.]

One of the biggest debates that came out of the finale was: "What did Ben mean when he said everyone has to go back?" Do you have any sense of what the rules are for the assertion that everyone has to go back?
My sense is that those who escaped must go back.

Is that a mandate from Ben or from the Island's life force, such as we understand it, which is not very well?
I think it's a scientific condition of the mechanism by which the Island operates. I don't think it's an esoteric or spiritual issue, I think it's science. I think more and more, now, the show has scientific answers.

In the episode "The Shape of Things to Come," Ben said Locke needed to survive the assault on the Island, and lo and behold, that seems to have been true. Does this mean that Ben and Locke are truly allies at this point?
I think, yes—however unhappily—they are allies.

Is it the connection to the Island that they have in common?
That, and...John Locke has a condition or quality that sets him apart from all other Lostaways. John Locke is special...er. He is more special than the others.

That must be fun for you and Terry O'Quinn to play. You've always said you enjoy working together.
We always have, but we haven't been working together so far this season.

Separated by time and space.
They're in different places.

Who have you been working with primarily this season—the Oceanic Six?
I've been working with characters who are not on the Island.

And up until this season, there's always been the concept of what the fans call "centric" episodes—the Jack-centric and Ben-centric episodes and so on. Are those a thing of the past as far as the show structure is concerned?
No...but I think the cast of "centric" characters is growing.

Interesting. And speaking of Ben-centric episodes, there's still a lot of missing time in his story, him versus Widmore, for example, and why they hate each other so much. Do you think we'll get to that this season, or is that something that belongs in the final year?
There's material about Ben's childhood that we're missing, and I think that could be explored this season, possibly.

Last question: What has surprised you in season five so far?
What has surprised me? Oh, I'll tell you what has surprised me: That Ben seems to have a real plan! You'd think I would be the last one to be surprised by that, but he doesn't miss a beat. It's kind of interesting—it's kind of breathtaking, really.

—Reporting by Jennifer Godwin
I have to notice that Kristin has been kicking Ausiello's butt for the past two weeks.


So, John Locke is special. He and Ben haven't had any scenes together yet so I guess we'll have to wait some more to find out what he said to the O6.

Ben has been interacting with those off the island. I have a feeling he wasn't talking only about the O6. Maybe Widmore.

Those who escaped have to go back. Does that mean Walt is not included?

The cast of centric characters is growing. I don't like the sound of that.
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I think what Michael means is that no character will have a centric for himself anymore. I guess 2 or more characters will share the episodes from now on. In case of Sawyer the most logical thing would be that he shares an episode with Kate.
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I think what Michael means is that no character will have a centric for himself anymore. I guess 2 or more characters will share the episodes from now on. In case of Sawyer the most logical thing would be that he shares an episode with Kate.
I think it's more likely we'll be seeing an O6-centric, Left Behinders- centric, maybe Des/Pen/Widmore-centric etc.
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