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*SPOILERS* #36: Left-Behinders - The Curse of the Black Rock




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This thread is to collect and discuss all the news, spoilers and speculations about Sawyer in the fifth season of Lost, airing in 2009 and starting to be shot in August 2008.

This post is to collect only the Sawyer-related spoilers/news.



Shooting Dates

5x01 - "Because You Left" : August 18 - ?
5x02 - ? : August 28 - September 12


Spoilers
August 21, 2008
- Two new characters for 5x02: Darlene & Jill

- Beach Camp set dismantled?


August 19, 2008
Character round-up: Foreman; Martha; Dan; Nigel; Sophie; Caesar; Ilanna

- The Black Rock..?
'The Lost producers are looking for two ships, both need to be seaworthy. The main one they wanted was a big black ominous looking ship, but the ship company didn't have anything that was even remotely similar to what they described. However, they booked another ship and it's going to be a chase ship which goes after the big black one.
The chase ship is the oldest ship in the marina and it looks like it's from the 1500's. Do you know why they would want boats that looked to be several hundred years old?
They want to film out in the Pacific off the California coast in early September.'


- By Doc Arzt: Premiere center on the O6 facing the need to go back
'According to our trusty "Super Sock," (Who did furnish some of the ultra awesome and thoroughly accurate asterix quizzes) "Because You Left" deals with several of the Oceanic Six coming to grips with their need to return to the island... on their own terms. If true, this means season five will get right down to it and do away with the issues of Jack 'convincing' Kate to return right off the bat.
In this sense the statement "Because You Left" deals with not a specific set of circumstances, but multiple character's circumstances.'



August 17, 2008
Lost casting 8 extras, preferably people speaking a foreign language


August 15, 2008
Reuters UK - Matthew Fox gets a raise on "Lost"


August 14, 2008
- Ausiello Files - Casting Scoops: 'Lost' Finds New Villain

- From secretagentman on TWOP: 'Appearing in #502 and #503 will be 'Nigel' and 'Sophie' (names likely will change). Nigel is British, in his late teens. Smart and mature for his age, if a little rough around the edges. Sophie is a British aristocrat in her late teens and appears quite innocent and a little prim, but underneath she is formidable.'


August 11, 2008
- By Jeff Jensen @ EW - 5x01 episode title: "Because You Left"

- The Hollywood Report.com - 'Lost' stars in renegotiation talks


August 8, 2008
ABC Fall Promo 2008 (60 seconds)


August 7, 2008
- Ausiello Files: more details about the two new characters (Caesar and Ilanna)

- Casting spoilers by secretagentman @ TWoP: 'They begin shooting #501 on Aug. 17th. A couple new recurring characters, who may be regulars in season 6. A 40ish dangerous, intelligent man whose intentions are unclear (really? on this show?) and a 30ish charming, brilliant and dangerous European woman with a dark, mysterious past. That's it for now.'


August 6, 2008
Mega Scoop by Matt Mitovich: Jack & Juliet; S5
I know Skaters and Jaters are asking about their Lost couples, but please don't ignore us Jacketeers! Is there hope for a Jack-Juliet reunion? – Tamuna
Matt:
Hope? Sure. It's just a matter of where (back on the island, I can only assume) and when (perhaps as early as this coming season, at least one source tells me). And for those fretting about Elizabeth Mitchell's future with the show, I am assured that Juliet figures very heavily into Season 5. Me, I see her and Sawyer (wet and shirtless or even dry and clothed) taking charge as Locke and his band of worshippers move forth with whatever cockamamy plan they have in mind.



August 4, 2006
- Doc Arzt - Season Five RUMORS & SPOILERS
We'll file this under spoilers, just in case, but here are a few things circulating about that may, or may not, be true and don't seem to be getting any air anywhere else -- along with a few things that are beginning to bubble up.
- The premiere presents a logistical challenge for the cast and crew because for the first time the episode takes place in THREE separate time-lines.
- There have been spurts of crew activity on the island, even though filming doesn't begin until August 18th.
- The cast is reportedly still "spread out." No signs, apparently, that there have been any gatherings for readings or anything of that nature.
- So far there have been NO casting calls for the premiere, at least no public ones. The most recent LOST related casting call was for Dan Bronson for the ARG.
According to Josh Holloway in the new TV Guide, Sawyer will - much to the delight of the ladies - be shirtless during the first few episodes of LOST season five.

General Thoughts
Well, it seems that, by Holloway's comments, we will see the island from the get-go, so that mystery is solved. It appears that season five is going to stick to the concise nature of season 4 when it comes to not stalling ala season 2 and 3, and cover all the bases and a bit more.
The three time-lines sort of, for this episode at least, blows apart the notion that episodes will focus on one time-line with the other being the flashes. Ala, this is an island episode with the flash sequences being off the island Oceanic 6. The question is, would they have ALL episodes jump back and forth between the O6 and the relocated island folk?


- TV Guide interview with Josh (credit for the scan: Susan)
Josh: "Sawyer doesn't find his shirt for the first two episodes, which is really disturbing. Coming after a hiatus, that ain't fair!"


July 28, 2008
- BBC News: TV's Lost audience 'will be lost'

- Watch with Kristin spoiler chat: Sawyer&Kate; S5 structure
Wendy in Singapore: Kristin, thank you for all the Comic-Con reporting. Do you have any other Lost stuff? Especially about Kate seeing Sawyer again?
Actually, I just heard from a reliable source what the new nonflash story structure is supposed to be for season five, and here's what I can tell you:
1. What my source told me seems to jibe perfectly with everything we've heard straight from the mouths of Damon and Carlton at TCA and Comic-Con
2. It could be incredibly confusing
3. Think about the Jin and Sun episode from last season.
In particular, this new story structure (which we'll discuss more as it gets closer to the new season) seems to ease my biggest fear about season five: separated characters and character groups. So before the secret gets out and everyone starts bitching about the confusing part, I'd like to say thanks, writers, for listening to us fans about wanting to see our faves continue to share adventures. Cheers.



July 27, 2008
Damon & Carlton interview for G4 TV
The prodicers say S5 will be a lot different from S4; they have "new tricks in their bag"; both the Island and the outside world will still be part of the show; their main fear for Lost is to get boring and stalling; so they hope to keep the "aggressive storytelling" high; the big question after the end of S4 is, with the Island disappearing, where is the Island and when is the island, hopefully those are the things that will keep the audience engaged; knowing the end date of the series allows them to be always sure of the pace they're keeping.


July 26, 2008
- Official audio podcast from Comic-Con

- Watch with Kristin: funny CC vids

- New Dharma video | Transcript

- Comic-Con live blogging by Jen & Liz @ Washingtonpost.com

- Kristin of E! - Live blogging from Comic-Con
Q: When the hatch imploded and the sky turned purple? Did the Island move then?
A: No. But something happened.

Q: Will there be a Rousseau flashback?
A: We will see Rousseau's story, to use the word flashback might be disingenious. Damon: We're steering away from the flashes.

Q: Will Kate ever see Sawyer again?
DL: Not if Jack has anything to say about it. CC: Yes. Kate will see Sawyer again.

Q: Is there a limit to how far the flashes can go back and forth in time?
A: We're going to tell stories in a new and exciting way. This year, when season five starts, you're not going to know when and where you are. CC: There will be storytelling both on and off the Island and in different periods of time. Guy who makes wooshing sound will remain employed.



July 17, 2008
- iFMagazine: The Scoop on 'Lost' Season 5
'As for teases on the new season, as usual the executive producers are tight lipped, but they do reveal this season will be about the Oceanic 6 getting back to the island.
“The people that are off the island, the island seems to be drawing them back and Ben [Michael Emerson] makes it clear they need to go back to the island,” says Cuse. “So hopefully that’s a lot of what you’ll see of in Season 5 -- the journey how those six return to the island.”'


- Watch with Kristin - ABC's Big Bosses Dish on Grey's, Lost, Desperate and Betty
'Damon and Carlton also were asked about diversity issues, with an implied reference to Harold Perrineau's speculation about how race might have played a role Michael's death, and Damon said, "The show has to be an equal-opportunity murderer...We've killed a lot of white people. And I can almost guarantee we will be killing more white people this season."
When pressed on their plan for season five of Lost, Damon said, "This is a tricky year for us. This is like The Two Towers [portion of The Lord of the Rings saga]...it links us to the final season...We've known a lot of what we want to do there [in the final season] for a long time, but the challenge is how do we make this season engaging and exciting. The worst thing we could ever do on the show is for the show to be boring...If we're going to be bad, we're going to be spectacularly bad."'


- Ausiello - Live Press Tour Diary: ABC Day Two
- 'Cuse hints that "the journey about how those six return to the island" will be a major thrust of Season 5. Adds Lindelof: "You have to break your characters up to create conflict... but you can't play that too long because the audience will get frustrated.... And we have that intensely in mind as we proceed."'
- Cuse teases we'll see more of Daniel Dae Kim "in some form" this season despite Jin's apparent death.



June 21, 2008
Carlton Cuse Interview from China TV/Film Forum (2 clips)
LOST writer Carlton Cuse, along with Ugly Betty writer were a part of a TV and Film Forum in China to discuss their shows and answer some questions about the industry.
- Sawyer is his favorite: Handsome, charming and dangerous, everything he would want to be.
- He gives a shout out to Skaters and Jaters and then mentions that we call them Darlton. Kate will end up with one of the two eventually.
- Production starts in August and Season 5 will air from January to May 2009.


June 6, 2008
Watch with Kristin - Lost Finale: Did You Still Have Some Questions or Something?

Mike in Hermosa Beach, Calif.: I have one question that I can't seem to find an answer to. And it's probably meant to be that we didn't hear, but what the hell did Sawyer whisper to Kate before he jumped?
Survey says: I've checked with my sources, and also a rep for the show, and have been told that the writers are "saving that secret for later on." According to one insider who works on the show, that line (what Sawyer said) wasn't even in the script. I wouldn't put too much stock into the gazillion daughter-in-Alabama (or possibly Albuquerque) "What Sawyer Said" videos currently playing on YouTube, some of which claim to have official and complete subtitles. Bottom line: Only Damon and Carlton know the whole truth, so I'm staying cautiously skeptical for the time being. If anyone sees them at Comic-Con next month (when they officially break their "radio silence"), tackle them and tickle them until they tell us if we can trust this YouTube business, OK?

Jen in Boston: I just noticed on the alternate endings to the Lost season finale on abc.com, the ones with Desmond or Sawyer in the coffin. What is that about?
That is about making sure people like me (evil, evil people) didn't spill the beans on who was in the coffin before the finale aired. And about showing off how hot Sawyer and Desmond are when wearing suits (even if they are dead). Seriously, don't give those endings a second thought, because there's the external drama of managing the fandom and the foilers, and there's the show itself. As Joss Whedon once said, "Trust the tale, not the teller."

Chris in Henderson, Nev.: If next season of Lost is about the Oceanic Six trying to get back, wouldn't it be more than just Emilie de Ravin who would need a holding contract? What about Josh Holloway, Terry O'Quinn, etc.?
They don't need holding contracts because we're going to see them on the Island next season, sillypants. I have no idea how they're going weave together the stories from back in the world with the stories from the Island, but Sawyer, Jin, Locke and company will be present and accounted for. I think a lot of season five will be a great ironic contrast between what the O6 think is happening on the Island, and what the Islanders think is happening in the world (all while the Widmore-Linus war rages around them).



June 4, 2008
Sky One: 'The Answers'
Sawyer may get an haircut. (?)


May 28, 2008
TV & Satellite Week scans - Finale Special
'Josh Holloway, who plays Sawyer, is glad to be a "left-behinder". "At first I got mad and kicked cans around the house, but then I thought, 'Well, I don't want to do scenes in a city. I'm not ready for a courtroom drama, I like the jungle. I like being dirty and sweaty and all messed up'", he says. "And the island is still one of the major characters in the show, and I'm on the island, so I'm with the big guy."'


May 24, 2008
- Los Angeles Times: 'Lost' season finale should answer questions
"All we can say is that it's going to be very hard to get back to the island for those guys," co-creator and executive producer Damon Lindelof said. "But life will continue for the people who are not with them. How are we going to tell that story? We're not going to tell that."

- USA Today Celeb Watch: Josh Holloway (YouTube link)
Q: Do you have any idea where Sawyer is heading, in the future?
Josh: Well, I'm on the island... they alluded to dark things.



May 15, 2008
TV guide interview with co-executive producer Jean Higgins
'And while Higgins can confirm that the latest Jack-Kate flash-forwards transpired well before the Season 3 finale's "We have to go baaaack!" scene, she won't pinpoint what exactly it is that Kate promised Sawyer and thus enrages her fiancé. "I would say that will come out most likely next year," she ventures.'


May 9, 2008
S5 and S6 will have 17 episodes each.


May 5, 2008
Watch with Kristin spoiler chat: Skate; Sawyer; Locke

Ally in Ireland: Please tell me Sawyer doesn't die...He isn't one of the Oceanic 6?
Right, he's not. But Sawyer doesn't die. He's alive. On the Island.



April 23, 2008
A.V. Club interview with Lindelof and Cuse


April 21, 2008
Watch with Kristin Spoiler Chat: Orchid Station, Seth Norris

Francie in Pasadena, Calif.: Can you share Lost info, s'il vous plaît?
According to my sources, the Orchid Station, which we should finally see soon, may be a major set going into next season as well. I've personally decided that's because it is totally a time machine, but I've been known to talk crazy.



February 24, 2008
The New York Post: 10 reasons why 'Lost' is found

2. We learn Jack's fate: The finale introduced the flash forward and showed us Jack's (Matthew Fox) slide into alcoholism when he leaves the island. "The flash forward is part of an overall plan for the show," says Damon Lindelof, co-executive producer. "Season 4 is about who gets off the island and the fact that they need to get back. Season 5 is about why they need to get back, and season 6 is about what happens when they get back."

3. We know who survives: Season four introduced six survivors: Jack (Matthew Fox); Kate (Evangeline Lilly); Hurley (Jorge Garcia), and Sayid (Naveen Andrews). This "Oceanic 6" make it off the island, but one will die - exactly who will be revealed this season. "We've made a choice to focus on the characters that fans have loved since the beginning - Jack, Kate, Sawyer (Josh Holloway), Locke (Terry O'Quinn), Sayid and Hurley," says Lindelof.

8. More sexual tension: The love quadrangle between Jack and Kate, Kate and Sawyer, and Jack and Juliet promises delicious complications, with Jack telling Kate he loves her, Sawyer asking Kate to shack up with him on the island and Juliet saving the day for Jack.



February 21, 2008
- Terry O'Quinn interviewed by The Canadian Press

AP: You've had other disagreements with the writers.
O'Quinn: At the end of Season 3 Locke throws a knife into Naomi's back and I said, 'This really hurts me, It's so not typical and it's so out of character and it seemed gratuitous.' I made the biggest stink I ever made with (executive producers) Damon Lindelhof and Carlton Cuse and they said, 'Look, Locke believes he was doing the right thing. His life was saved, he's been told, he's been instructed. He believes that this is the most dangerous person in the world right now and he does what he does. Do it.' I said, 'Well, you know, if I stab her in the back couldn't I at least shoot Jack in the knee or something?'

AP: What's it like working with such a large cast?
O'Quinn: One of the nice things about this cast, this size of cast, you get a new episode and you go, 'Oh great, now I get to work this little arc with Michael Emerson. We have a lot together. Or with Josh Holloway or Evangeline Lily and it's almost always a pleasure to find out who you're working with. Almost.

AP: Are there some you aren't pleased to work with?
O'Quinn: There've been some rough times but it's very familial in that way. It's like the holidays when you go, 'Oh God, uncle Bob's going to get drunk and abuse my cousin. But we'll get through it.'



February 20, 2008
From EW: Jeff Jensen interview with Lindelof and Cuse

- Naomi and Elsa's bracelets had no mytological purpose, they just thought giving Elsa the same bracelet would bring memories in Sayid;
- Adam and Eve, the skeletons, will be adressed but not this season;
- Episode 4x05 "deals with time travel and operates in different time periods";
- In episode 4x05, we'll find out which kind of calls the satellite phone can do and which it can't, explaining why they can't call the outside world;
- By the end of the season we will know who is in the coffin;
- The larger mythos, like "The Purge", will come back in season 5;
- NO to alternative realities, because they want the audience to invest in the story and the characters and what happens to them - that doesn't exclude time travel and bending of the space/time continuum though;
- By the end of the season, we'll know what happened since the O6 left the island/got rescued, to the point Jack and Kate meet in the airport;
- We'll see more hints to Jacob and the cabin, but that's not something that will be answered by the end of this season;
- the Orchid video showed at Comic Con is important this season;
- the mystery of Ben's list is linked to the wreckage seen at the bottom of the ocean.



January 30, 2008
Doc Arzt interview with Josh Holloway for BuddyTV


January 14, 2008
- Watch with Kristin - Spoiler Chat: Sawyer's death?; Penelope; Kate and one of the Boaties?; Jack&Juliet

Julia in San Diego: Lost! I just read somewhere that Sawyer might not make it through the season. Please save me from a true panic attack and tell me Sawyer isn't going anywhere!
Yes, Sawyer's going to be killed off in episode six, and from what I understand that will be the show's last-ever mention of the character. Audiences just never warmed up to him, and the writers realized it was best to simply give his off-putting storyline to a swift, clear-cut end. (I'm kidding. Seriously now, with all the stressing going on at tvdiva@eonline.com, I worry that you guys are all gonna give yourselves aneurysms. I promise you, if Sawyer were to eventually get killed off, which I consider unlikely in the extreme, the show would at least do it Nate Fisher style—that guy is gonna be around until the end in one way or another.)


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Previous Threads

Josh as Sawyer in Lost S4: Past, present, future. We'll follow him everywhere.
#3: Nine months of hiatus?! Come to join the therapy group.
#4: 2° FF -> LA hotel, Maria/Fran/Misty+Sawyer. Guess the rest
#5: Our "Lost outcast" investigation? Not obsession, but scientific dedication.
#6: Apparently, it really is about bunnies.
#7: Fear our detective skills, foiler guys.
#8: An apparition? No, he really is filming.
#9: Lost on Monday: nothing better than Sawyer to start a new week.
#10: Trust no one, but the Hawaiian reporters.
#11: First set photos, Sawyer is back in action.
#12: The WTF spoilers are back: Sawyer meeting Fred Flintstones?
#13: Sawyer, Sawyer, Sawyer. (this title tries to compensate the lack of news)
#14: Max didn't make it to the theaters, but Sawyer did.
#15: We're just Sawyer fans, like Carlton.
#16: So, about those kids in tattered clothes...
#17: These boots were made for speculating.
#18: "That guy is gonna be around until the end"
#19: "And here I thought I'd finally be gettin' a good night's sleep"
#20 - Taller ghost Walt ordered: "Put that kitchen counter to good use"
#21: You are our constant, James.
#22: We would like to time travel to when Sawyer gets a storyline.
#23: Unlike the writers, we honor continuity & don't drop storylines.
#24: "Without a juicy Sawyer-centric piece we'll be dying." - DocArzt
#25: Burn, Monopoly, burn.
#26: James Ford and the Secret of the Lost Plotline
#27: A knight without armor in a savage land.
#28: The Finale Follies - Step Right Inside
#29: Bye S4. We won't miss you except for the Big Damn Hero!
#30: Jumping the shark? More like Turning the wheel.
#31: Eight months of sweet nothings whispered in our ears.
#32: Spoilers? We don't need no stinkin' spoilers.
#33: We can only hope.
#34: S5 Sawyer - Free Agent, New Sheriff & King of the Island.
#35: What 'Time' Is It? It's Spoiler Time!


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Just to continue from the past thread:

There was nothing spectacular about the Desmond/Penny kiss whatsoever. Sweet yes, emotional yes, but the phone call was 10 times better IMO. They are one of those couples who seem to work better together when they are apart.
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Misty.... remember when I asked you the days of the weeks when Mickey and Matty post, and told you that from now on I would rely on the post-it where I had the info written down?


...I lost the post-it.

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I think Ausiello's spoiler chat should be up today (early in the morning for us).
Matt's column is up on Wednesdays but pretty early so you could even send him a question today.
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Thank you! :-*
This time I've bookmarked the link of your post. *is starting to get smart*

So there is still time to send off something, are you submitting any question to Ausiello?

(Dark has a video of E! News talking about Michelle's return on Lost. It made me happy. )
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This time I've bookmarked the link of your post. *is starting to get smart practical*
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So there is still time to send off something, are you submitting any question to Ausiello?
I've just sent mine. It's always the same thing - Left Behinders and Sawyer.

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(Dark has a video of E! News talking about Michelle's return on Lost. It made me happy. )
What I'd like to know is if they got the bit about Cheech Marin appearing in episode 2 and Hurley's FB from Ausiello or from another source. They did credit EW in the clip but not for this specific piece of info.
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I've just sent mine. It's always the same thing - Left Behinders and Sawyer.
There is nothing better you could've asked about.
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What I'd like to know is if they got the bit about Cheech Marin appearing in episode 2 and Hurley's FB from Ausiello or from another source. They did credit EW in the clip but not for this specific piece of info.
Mine is just a feeling, but from the way they mentioned Cheech Marin in the clip, I got the impression they simply took the whole news from Entertainment Weekly and presented it with other words.
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Mine is just a feeling, but from the way they mentioned Cheech Marin in the clip, I got the impression they simply took the whole news from Entertainment Weekly and presented it with other words.
That's the impression I got, too.

It's just that Ausiello's and Doc Jensen's speculations often seem a bit off to me so I'd like to know if Cheech Marin is really set to appear in ep 2 or if they are only making assumptions.
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It's just that Ausiello's and Doc Jensen's speculations often seem a bit off to me so I'd like to know if Cheech Marin is really set to appear in ep 2 or if they are only making assumptions.
There is one thing though: if theirs is just an assumption/speculation, wouldn't make more sense to guess that he's coming back in the premiere instead of 5x02, considering the reports we have about Hurley and Sayid, and ep. 5x01 focussing on the O6?
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There is one thing though: if theirs is just an assumption/speculation, wouldn't make more sense to guess that he's coming back in the premiere instead of 5x02, considering the reports we have about Hurley and Sayid, and ep. 5x01 focussing on the O6?
You're probably right. Maybe they get a guest list for all episodes even before the press releases come out.

Two weeks ago Doc Jense revealed the title of the premiere and now EW got the exclusive news about Ana Lucia coming back. I'm expecting some more scoops from them soon. I think Darlton like Doc J.
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You're probably right. Maybe they get a guest list for all episodes even before the press releases come out.
Could be. I'm tempted to ask Ausiello for a clarification... but I'm not that interested to waste my question for the spoiler column on Hurley.
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Two weeks ago Doc Jense revealed the title of the premiere and now EW got the exclusive news about Ana Lucia coming back. I'm expecting some more scoops from them soon. I think Darlton like Doc J.
He has interviewed them several times, and is pretty much into mythological speculations.

Do you remember if last season TV Guide or some entertainment show did any set visit when Lost went back to film?
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Could be. I'm tempted to ask Ausiello for a clarification... but I'm not that interested to waste my question for the spoiler column on Hurley.
I feel the same way when it comes to Kristin's spoiler about flashes.

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Do you remember if last season TV Guide or some entertainment show did any set visit when Lost went back to film?
I went to check and their big Lost article with the first season 4 promo photos came out in the October issue (22nd). They must've visited the set because they had a few bits about the new season from Terry, Evie, Elizabeth and maybe some other actors.
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I went to check and their big Lost article with the first season 4 promo photos came out in the October issue (22nd). They must've visited the set because they had a few bits about the new season from Terry, Evie, Elizabeth and maybe some other actors.
October? ;_;
Thank you for checking, I remembered something but was hoping it came out around September. Oh well.

We must hope that Ryan will go in exploration in the jungle soon.
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