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Old 10-03-2005, 11:30 AM
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I think that is a possible way of it
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:37 AM
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I like your theory, but there is another question then:
Why does this thing kill ppl that are close to the Winchester Men?

I like this idea as well ... maybe they will find out about some other ancestors from the Winchester Clan who's wives died in a misterious way, ergo got killed by this thing ... but why? What did the Winchesters do (probably) a long time ago, that created this thing ...
If this theory is right, then it's about revenge ... if it's about revenge, then I do't think that thier dad will die at the end ... not if he has anything to do with this creature, meaning if he did something that made this creature appear (kind of like the woman in white) ...
If they get close enough and can help' this creature to find peace ... then I think their dad won't die ... he's doing that for years, he's careful and everything ... plus, this thing kills (as far as we know) women ... I think it won't kill men ... maybe a woman from the Winchester family once did something horrible to him? But it won't kill men then ...

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Old 10-03-2005, 11:43 AM
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We started talking about this, but we didn't get into it. I like your idea about the revenge thing, and them finding something out in some kind of research or case
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:43 AM
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I don´t think John will die because of the thing I think he will die because he tryed to protect Sam (and Dean) that could be his final redemption

I think the reason the thing wants to kill the woman who are close to the winchester is going ages back. Maybe there was a betrayal from the Winchester clan and the result waa that someone got killed (maybe the person who got killed was a pregnant woman...don´t aks me why I think that) or maybe someone was unfaithful and a child was born and this child was the reason a war got started and the child got killed during the hateful war and now want´s revenge from both familys the Winchesters and another family we will learn about later this season.

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Old 10-03-2005, 11:48 AM
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Wow, I really had to read that at least two times Sonya ... a lot of ideas ... great!

One thing is for sure: whoever did something (more or less) bad was a woman ... I'll just keep that in mind, that way I won't be confused the whole night

OK, that was my final good night post for today ... don't have too many new theories till tomorrow ... I wanna follow that conversation

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Old 10-03-2005, 11:52 AM
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I think that was a good idea about the women being unfaith or being pregrant, because both times. Its was the stomach bleeding

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Old 10-03-2005, 11:54 AM
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I love us the crazy way and yeah can´t wait for all the new theories
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:55 AM
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I'm glad that she thought of it, cause this was on the 2nd page of the board
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:24 AM
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I think that was a good idea about the women being unfaith or being pregrant, because both times. Its was the stomach bleeding
Ok, it's probably not the best idea to talk about that while eating, but ... yeah ... anyway ...

hm ... you could see it like that ... he cut open the stomach 'cause a long time ago blah blah blah woman has been unfaithful and ... suddenly pregnant.
BUT ... he didn't just cut it open ... if what I believe to see is really correct, then he cut a big part of skin at the stomach away and took out all of the organs ... bec where else would it be that easy and simple?
(now, we have a creature that can 'cause a woman to start burning without any lighter, but he can't suck her organs out of just one small opening in her body? ... hm ... weird ... am I the only one that thinks that's weird? lol ... ok)

Anyway, I get the feeling that for one theory we talk about, we can think of 5 others ... at least ... lol

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Old 10-04-2005, 10:33 AM
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im just gonna jump in here . ehm read a few post back and this theory about what killed sam/dean´s mom and jess .sounds damn intressting . i been googling now for days about this thing but i cant seem to find it .

however i agree with anne a little more . sure everyones ideas are really awsome . but if you noticed in the pilot the thing that killed there mother was in same shape as there father [ he stood by sam´s crib while the real john was sleeping infront of the tv] im thinking this evil shapeshifter who takes faithful woman [didnt see jess or the mother not being unfaitful]

its kinda funny cus it all reminds me of this one swedich folklore . its a viking myth . kinda the same its a shapeshifter who drags beautiful faithful woman [all blond curly haired] into a deep ocean . not the same but kinda ...


im gonna be sitting days now looking for this one folklore/urban legend cus it kills me not to know what it is and that it reminds me so much
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Old 10-04-2005, 11:02 AM
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however i agree with anne a little more . sure everyones ideas are really awsome . but if you noticed in the pilot the thing that killed there mother was in same shape as there father [ he stood by sam´s crib while the real john was sleeping infront of the tv] im thinking this evil shapeshifter who takes faithful woman [didnt see jess or the mother not being unfaitful]
I think that we brought this up, but I do remember that. I can't remember who brought it up, but that is a very good point
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Old 10-04-2005, 11:09 AM
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I still think that it´s not about any woman I believe it has to do with the Winchester family in particular (or like I said a few posts earlier, maybe a second family too) and I kinda can´t get the vision out of my head that once a Woman were pregant and maybe killed herself (and her husband/lover who was a Winchester) because for some reasons we will find out later and the Husband/Lover who was the father of the baby wants revenge and kills the woman the Winchester are caring for or sleeping with (to say it bold) because he wants to protect them, so that would explain the empty stomach and the wounds on the wrists.

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Old 10-04-2005, 11:17 AM
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Gosh I'm torn inbetween both theories
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:49 AM
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I have a theory that is far too crazy, so you shoudl better forget it again right after you read it ...

So ... maybe ... it's not about the Winchesters, but just about the women ... I mean ... I'm still at our part of the theory where a member of one certain family (most likely a female member) did something bad ...
And now there's a ghosts, demon, whatever tracking down the family and killing all females ... maybe only all members of that family who have blonde curled hair, I don't know ...
So, now think about it ... if whatever bad thing happened happened a very long time ago, which I think is the case ... then the family will now be spread all over the country ... maybe even the world ... and there are a lot of strangers, who have the same ancestors, but - of course - don't know about it.
So maybe Jess and John't wife had the same ancestors ... a looooooong time ago ... and that's the reason they had to die ...
I mean, it's TV ... I think almost everyone thinks that it has to do with the Winchesters, since it killed first John's wife and then Sam's girlfriend. But maybe it's not about them ... maybe that's just (TV)coincidence.

I know, crazy ... that's what this show is doing to me ...



Something about your theory Sonya:
Maybe he doesn't kill them because he wants to protect the men of the Winchester family, but because he's simple jealous ...
I mean, think about it ... he had a wife who he loved, who he adored ... and she was pregnant ... he was the happiest man in the world. Beautiful wife who was bearing their beautiful child ... she loved him, he loved her.
So, now ... for some reason ... she kills herself ... and I would guess that the woman who killed herself wasn't pregant, bec then this thing would kill pregnant women. So she kills herself for some reason and he becomes sad. Really sad and angry, maybe doesn't care for the child that much anymore, because all he can think about is that his beautiful wife killed herself. It was a perfect family for him and now it's a tragedy ... something he can't live with. It takes everything of him ... the thing he loved the most and his oerfect life. He couldn't be ahppy anymore. He still had their child, sure, but everytime he looked at him / her ... he saw his wife ... who turned into the person he hated the most 'cause she destroied thier happy life ... his happy life ...
And now there are the next generations of Winchester men ... getting married, having children and / or being simple happy ... happy with their lives and families ... and this man who had a happy life a long time ago and then had to face pure sadness and anger ... he gets mad ... really mad ... and jealous ... 'cause all those other men live the happy life he once and had and was dreaming of having forever. But he couldn't. So he doesn't want anyone to have it. At least no-one from his family ... so he kills their wives / girlfriends when they are as happy as he's been and are about to be even happier ... that thought kills him (ok, forget about the fact that he ... it ... whatever is already dead ).
So he takes that away from the Winchester men ...

And to fix that, Dean, Sam and John (or whoever) has to find his wife ... her ghost that is (of course, like every ghost lol) still somewhere too far away to see, but close enough to somehow reach ... with a spell, probably ...
So, if they find that woman they have to bring him to her ... bring them together again ... with the ghost of their child ... and show him that he can be happy - again ... he still has his family and he'll never lose it again ... they'll be together and happy forever ... just has he wanted.
(in that case, the woman probably died bec of a desease and thw whole village thought she killed herself ... with poison or whatever ... 'cause otherwise she'd have to explain why she killed herself )
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oh Anne I love you when you get into theory mood

I like your new theroy and in a strange kind of way it´s logical but let´s just say it is how you wrote it, wouldn´t you think the audience would be highly dissapointed . I mean if it´s true that the Winchesters aren´t the real reason this "thing" is hunting, it would be shocking and that´s always a plus in TV-world but honestly I guess it would be a bit too easy. and it would give Sam the reason to stop the hunting (he mentioned he only does it because of Jess´ and I think that if it was just coincidence he would stop after he killes Jess´killer but if it´s about the Wincheser the whole past of their family that would be a total different story, who knows which other "things" are haunting the Winchesters because of their past and what they did?) but on the other side I would love if it´s true because than Sam would have to deal with not only Jess death but with the feeling of being lost I guess.

and I also liked how you revised my theory but I still can´t get the pregnant thing out of my head.

But maybe it´s not about Sam or John or about the past of the Winchesers maybe it´s all because of Dean. We don´t know what he did in his past....
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