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Old 04-17-2017, 02:25 AM
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I think John would have turn Sam into 'Dean' the perfect little soilder and without a 'Sam' to worry about and take care of, Sam would have gotten cold...like Gordon or Grandpa Campbell. ...even if Mary lived and John died, without Dean, it wouldn't end up well for Sam.
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Old 04-17-2017, 07:50 AM
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Is it bad that I think if Mary lived it would have turned worst for Sam? In this no Dean universe were talking about. Like Mary living sounds like a sure fire way for Sam to turn as heartless and cold as Grandpa Campbell.
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Old 04-18-2017, 05:48 AM
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Definitely agree on that one. I think even if Dean was around and John died instead of Mary I think the boys would still end up different. For all his faults John always drilled into the boys family first. (even though he tended to forget that little bit) Under Mary's supervision, and without people like Bobby in their lives I could see the boys growing up to be in competition with each other, always at odds to prove themselves to Mary. I mean look at how other Campbells turned out. Christian for example. Mary doesn't care about family.
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Old 04-19-2017, 12:37 AM
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Very true, with Mary I can definitely see them growing to hate each other and always wanting to outdo one another, and Mary encouraging that behavior. Also I can imagine her preferring Dean because Sam has demon blood in him and I don't think that's something that she'd be ok with, even though it's her fault.

True, she has a very twisted view on family. To her family is disposable, and listen I'm all for kicking people out of your life even if their family sometimes, but she seems to discard them like if they were tissues. If you don't bring her any use you're on your own.
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:33 AM
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I hadn't even thought about the demon blod! I wonder if she knows about it? I would think she would have read it in the journal..but that would involve her being curious about her kids...and that's doesn't happen. I could totally see it being Sam's fault in her eyes.

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Old 04-19-2017, 06:13 PM
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She's 100% the worst! I just hope next season we are completely rid of her!
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:33 AM
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^ From you to the writers keyboard!

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I hadn't even thought about the demon blod! I wonder if she knows about it? I would think she would have read it in the journal..but that would involve her being curious about her kids...and that's doesn't happen. I could totally see it being Sam's fault in her eyes.

SHE SUCKS OUTLOUD!
Is that information even on the journal? Was John aware of it? Cause I can't remember, but I don't think he did Yeah even if it was in the journal she doesn't care enough to actually question it, I mean she didn't even question Dean when he mentioned to her that he had spend time in hell.

I have no doubt whatsoever that she would blame Sam. And I actually feel like she does hold some resentment towards Sam and blames him for her death.
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:45 AM
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I don't know, because John knew something was wrong with Sam...because he had told Dean he might have to kill him. (which is why John is still in the running for worst parent of the year.)...but he definitely didn't know about the demon blood addiction. I think at first they mentioned the boys keeping up with the journal, like adding info...maybe they added that?
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:13 AM
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True, but I don't remember if it was because he knew Sam had demon blood in him or he just knew Azazel was interested in him. Well, guess I'm gonna have to re-watch the first season

Maybe, though I don't see why they would add it considering that Sam to this day still has problems with that, and if they did, would Mary even bother to read what they added?

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Old 04-21-2017, 04:06 AM
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I think they're trying to annoy fans...so we wont be that upset when they call it quits. First Cas episodes now this? HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE TAKE?!
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Ugh gross...I don't need that!
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Why so much focus on her when we're so close to the season finale. Can the finale not be about the boys? Geez.
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Apparently not, it's ridiculous the last couple of episodes should be about the boys and wrapping up the main storyline, they don't seem to be moving towards either.

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I think they're trying to annoy fans...so we wont be that upset when they call it quits. First Cas episodes now this? HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE TAKE?!
You think they're trying to kill their own show? Or more like soft kill their own show? I could see that.
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Why so much focus on her when we're so close to the season finale. Can the finale not be about the boys? Geez.
Seriously!! We need to see that not her pretending like she's a good person!
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Ugh I hate when she pretends she's a good person but I hate even more that the show wants us to believe it.
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