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darkxtwisty 07-11-2014 07:31 AM

I just don't see the writers breaking up Jolex because then Jo serves no purpose. She would fall into the same trap Stephanie currently is now that Jackson and Stephanie are done. Amelia clearly isn't ready to settle down either (well, she wasn't ready to settle down with James anyway). I don't see her jumping into another relationship in 11A though. I think she'll take time to discover herself. I personally expect lots of Meredith/Amelia bonding in 11A since they both need to focus on themselves.

QueenMeredith 07-11-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WalaBridget (Post 76937584)
Alex and JO aren't stable she does not want to commit while he does , so I can see them breaking up.

I strongly disagree, they are stable and committed to each other. I don't see them breaking up, they gave Alex so much pain in his lovelife.. he'll wait until she's ready.. and maybe we'll see their wedding at the end of s11. And Amelia is not ready either, she just broke up with her fiancee.. :shrug:

darkxtwisty 07-11-2014 12:56 PM

^^ That. I'm pretty sure Jolex is end game...unless Shonda decides to let Izzie back. There's a greater chance of Owen and Stephanie happening than that. :lol:

Amelia doesn't need a relationship to make her amazing, tbh. The problem is Grey's is it's allowed the relationships to control the show too heavily. It's kind of sad. We're all broken into 'ship' segments and if a character isn't in a relationship, then they're boring (Stephanie). Though they have potential to make Amelia interesting without giving her a boyfriend. I hope they use that potential. I kind of wonder if they're going to make Stephanie decide to go into Neuro, since she and Amelia had that scene in the finale and Stephanie said she liked Neuro. :shrug: Stephanie was the one who coined the term "Shepherdess" (I think...or was it Shane? He was in that scene too). But they've been using Bailey in an attempt to make Stephanie likable (which is failing miserably, IMO). So maybe she'll stay in General. (Just what they need...*another* General surgeon. Mer needs to leave General STAT).

WalaBridget 07-14-2014 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheShepherds (Post 76939929)
I strongly disagree, they are stable and committed to each other. I don't see them breaking up, they gave Alex so much pain in his lovelife.. he'll wait until she's ready.. and maybe we'll see their wedding at the end of s11. And Amelia is not ready either, she just broke up with her fiancee.. :shrug:

I don't see Jo being committed she's young. The writers need drama for the next two seasons , thus I think Amelia and Alex are likely to happen.

xsweetgirlx91 07-14-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WalaBridget (Post 76937584)
Alex and JO aren't stable she does not want to commit while he does , so I can see them breaking up.

They aren't stable? I think the whole season 10 showed us that they are pretty much stable lol. Jo not wanting to get married doesn't mean that they'll break up because of it. I have said it before and I'll keep saying it. If they were to break up because of that marriage issue, they would have broken up after Alex's proposal. Honestly, not many couples keep dating after one turns down the other's proposal. And I don't know why some people want Amelia and Alex so much, it's not like she would agree to marry Alex. She left James because she didn't want to get married, either lol. You see, Jo didn't leave Alex despite of her not wanting to get married. Which should show us that James wasn't the right one for Amelia, but Alex is probably the right one for Jo.

Oh, and Alex and Jo are already pretty committed if you ask me. A relationship that starts with an "I love you" is already a very serious thing, plus they live together and all, they were close friends before dating.. Only because they are not legally married doesn't make them not committed.

QueenMeredith 07-14-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by xsweetgirlx91 (Post 76981561)
They aren't stable? I think the whole season 10 showed us that they are pretty much stable lol. Jo not wanting to get married doesn't mean that they'll break up because of it. I have said it before and I'll keep saying it. If they were to break up because of that marriage issue, they would have broken up after Alex's proposal. Honestly, not many couples keep dating after one turns down the other's proposal. And I don't know why some people want Amelia and Alex so much, it's not like she would agree to marry Alex. She left James because she didn't want to get married, either lol. You see, Jo didn't leave Alex despite of her not wanting to get married. Which should show us that James wasn't the right one for Amelia, but Alex is probably the right one for Jo.

:nod: Season 10 showed how stable they are and they can work as a couple. It was great to see someone like that for Alex.

Plus Amelia is probably for Owen.. they are both single, and like I said before he need something to make him a bit interesting and actually have something to do other than walk down the halls, and this can create drama since she's Derek's sister too.

xsweetgirlx91 07-14-2014 09:30 AM

Definitely not saying that Alex and Jo will never break up, but really, Jo didn't leave him after his proposal, which says a lot :) I have a feeling they could break up because of something else, if they will break up. And me not wanting Alex/Amelia is definitely because of me being such a big Alex fan that I don't think him and her would make sense now. I secretly had hoped that they would hook up in s7 or s8, but they never did and now it's too late in my opinion.
Owen and Amelia could really be interesting, considering that Maggie is another cardio surgeon and doesn't seem to be a very exciting character (ok to be fair, we didn't see much of her yet, but the fact that she's head of cardio will make people say that she's a Cristina replacement), and I think Amelia and Owen could really challenge each other.

Btw, just to add that because darkxtwisty said that Stephanie is boring now after having broken up with Jackson. Am I the only one who likes her much better now? I really disliked her while she was with Jackson, but after he embarrassed her in front of everyone at the wedding, I really think she handled the situation very well. And she told him that he is dead to her, even though he's head of the board, I think it was very ballsy and I liked it a lot. I enjoy her character a lot more now that she isn't pining after him. And that's why I think that a character like Amelia doesn't need a love interest either, because she is strong and interesting on her own. And I think we say that every character who comes to the show is useless without their love interest, but then they develop and turn out to be pretty interesting at some point :D At least that's how I felt with Arizona.

darkxtwisty 07-29-2014 07:56 AM

The reporters asked Shonda about Amelia and Owen (I sent the question in, actually).

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What about Amelia and Owen?
Rhimes: I know, right? Because somehow that feels exciting. I've had that thought and I don't know yet. I'm not interested in pushing that because I don't know yet. I think they have interesting personalities and I think they have interesting pains that one another could possibly solve.
Though, Shonda tweeted recently that she doesn't intend to hook Owen up with anyone right away, which makes logical sense. Amelia and Owen are just getting out of relationships, so I wouldn't want either to jump into anything because it's bound to end badly. Amelia is interesting as a single character and doesn't need a relationship to be interesting. Though, I think she'll eventually date again. I think she and Owen would be a perfect fit, to be honest. As Shonda said, they could fix a lot of each other's issues. Plus, Amelia has never been completely closed off to having kids - she's just afraid. She's not like Cristina who said she would never have kids no matter what.

That's more of an 11B - season 12 thing, I think. Though I'm SO irritated at all the "Owen and Amelia" hate that's been going around Twitter. I've seen people saying they won't watch the show if Owen dates Amelia. What's so bad about them being together? I'd rather Owen and Amelia be together than Owen be with Stephanie or Maggie. :lol: (Unless he's with them as a ONS that goes badly for dramatic purposes). I get people are upset that Cristina is leaving, but what do they expect Owen to do? Mope and cry forever and be alone? Sounds depressing, and not something I'm interested in watching for a long time.

I think Owen and Amelia would be a great fit in the long run. Though I'd be interested in seeing them build a friendship first, and maybe test the waters a bit to see if there's chemistry. They haven't had screen time together, so there's no way to know if there's chemistry.

As for the Stephanie thing - I see no use for her. That's why she's boring. She doesn't really have friends, and we know literally nothing about her back story, which makes it difficult for fans to relate to her. I'm glad they added Amelia to the cast. For once they're doing something right: Adding a character with a background, and one that many fans already love and relate to.

maryy89 07-29-2014 08:29 AM

I like the idea of Amelia and Owen, and I hope Shonda goes along with it. I wouldn't put them immediately together, rather test the waters first, give them some screen time together and see if it goes well. I think that's what she said they did with Jo and Alex too. The original plan had been to make them hook up at Bailey's wedding, but they changed their minds and made them friends first to develop their chemistry. I think that's never a wrong plan, should work with Owen and Amelia, too.

About the hate - I've seen a lot of it too and welcome to my world! It had been over 3 years since Izzie left when Alex met Jo and people still rather wanted him to mope around and be alone rather than find someone to be happy with. And a lot of them still haven't changed their minds. Twitter people strike me as extremely hateful and rude anyway, so i'm trying to ignore them mostly. I think Owen and Amelia will continue to get a lot of hate, but Shonda never really let herself get inluenced by fans (and I'm grateful for that tbh because otherwise the show never would have survived.) and I think they will happen in the end. I'm looking forward to it. I was a huge Crowen fan, but I've made my peace with Cristina leaving some time ago, and I can see Owen and Amelia working out. Owen and Maggie - nah. And I love Owen as a character, so I definitely don't want to see him alone and miserable like Alex has been before Jo came along.

Okay, this is not a Stephanie thread, so I think talking about her is not priority here, but I have to comment on your comment: She has her resident friends, including Jo, and when you look back to MAGIC, they mostly only had each other, too. It's not like they were friends with attendings :lol: And she's not a favorite of mine and I agree that we know almost nothing about her which makes it hard to relate to her, but I wouldn't call her useless. I know the fandom didn't like the new interns and I didn't like most of them either, but now it's only Jo, Ben and Steph anyway. We have 3 residents and tons of attendings who need to teach people. And it's just a lot more interesting in my opinion to see them teach characters we know at least a bit about instead of some extras standing in the background whose names you don't even know. Even though I was annoyed at first too that they introduced so many new interns in s9, when I think about it rationally, I think they were necessary. Our residents had become fellows and attendings, and the others were attendings already, and a big concept of Grey's had always been the teaching aspect. This way we could also really see our favorites teach others, and I for example loved teacher Cristina or teacher Alex.

Still, adding Amelia was a good decision, no doubt about that. She's a character we know already, she is Derek's sister, she sure as hell isn't boring. I'm looking forward to more Amelia on my screen, I loved her on PP.

darkxtwisty 07-29-2014 08:49 AM

I just wish Meredith's new sister would have been a resident. I agree there are too many attendings, and we need more residents/interns to be taught. So that's why they should have had Maggie be a resident. They already said she skipped some grades. So why not just make her a resident who didn't skip grades? They just wanted her to be there to take the cardio position it seems because there's no one in cardio. Personally, I would be just fine without a cardio replacement. The position is jinxed, anyway, so I guess that means Maggie won't be there for too long.

I never particularly cared for Crowen, and I really started to dislike them in season 8 and even more in season 9, so it's easy for me to accept him and Amelia. IMO they doomed Crowen when they had Cristina abort Owen's baby and say she never ever wanted children. It was evident their relationship would never work from then on. Owen deserves to be with someone who can make him happy, and I think Amelia can do that. She just happens to be a lot like Cristina but different enough that she and Owen can work.

It's rarely good when the writers let the fans influence their decisions too heavily. Some fans don't think about what's best for the character. Personally, I think about what's best for dramatic purposes. Owen and Amelia would definitely challenge each other, and like it was mentioned, she's Derek's sister - that would cause drama between Owen and Derek, too, possibly.

LiKe 08-11-2014 11:20 AM

Please please - not Amelia and Owen or Amelia and Alex....
I like Amelia, I like Alex - but Amelia and James and Alex and Izzie were couples that I really liked bc of the chemistry. (yeah for me there is still no Jolex-Endgame ;-) even I know that it will be)
Amelia can be in a new relationship - but for me she doesn't need one now and I can't see her in an relationship w/ any of the single characters of GA.

But please add me - bc I really adore Amelia (she is the reason I watch GA again)

darkxtwisty 08-11-2014 11:34 AM

Added.

As much as I hope for an Amelia/Owen relationship in the distant future (like not in the first half of season 11), all I really want is for her to form friendships with other characters right now. Amelia has an effect on me that so few characters have. She has the potential to make me tolerate any character, whether I care for them or not. Basically, if she has scenes with someone, I'll be engaged in the scene no matter what. The only other character on Grey's who has that effect on me is Meredith. I don't care for Stephanie, but I liked the Stephanie/Amelia moment in the finale.

Of course, Meredith/Amelia bonding would be a dream come true for me. I've wanted that since season 7 when Amelia first visited Seattle.

runawaaay 08-12-2014 06:19 AM

Welcome :wave: i want them to explore Amelia's character before giving her a love interest

darkxtwisty 08-12-2014 06:47 AM

Yes, there's so much left to explore with Amelia.

I know people are saying they don't want a relapse, and I understand Seattle is kind of a fresh start for her, and a relapse would ruin that. Though, I think it would be interesting if she helped someone else struggling with addiction - which is why I think they might head that route with Owen. :shrug:

At the same time, I wonder how Derek and Meredith would handle the situation if Amelia did relapse. They'd handle it differently than Addison and Amelia's friends at Ocean Side. It would burn a bridge with Derek, though, since he's just slowly starting to trust her again.

LiKe 08-12-2014 02:42 PM

Yes to form friendships would be great. Amelia is the reason I watch GA again - after abt 5 years. (okay still not any whole episode - okay the final)
She could bring me back to GA full-time. She could get me in touch or care for any other character (she did it in PP)
(I'm a little sad that Lexie isn't there anymore; I really liked the dynamic between this two)

I just hope for: 1. a great storyline (I don't really care what sl; Amelia / Caterina could touch me with every sl in pp), 2. a character development and 3. for a good integration in the show...

It's little hard to say this, but: in her SL i hope for drama ;-) But this is GA, so ... the chances are high. It's just: Caterina acts so emotional and authentic that I always rewatch her scenes. And I enjoy drama - I enjoy it very much - even better by a really great actor/actress who gets to my heart every time they cry, fight or act desperate.


Thanks for adding


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