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Old 02-03-2017, 07:42 AM
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I find their friendship almost creepy now. The writers think it's okay to apply everything Meredith and Cristina did on them but some things, like sharing a bed, are just inappropriate for two nearly 40 year olds. Whenever Jo mentioned her problems with things like that, people would call her petty but Jo was 100% right. When Mer and Cristina did these things they were around 30, they were both women, they were both in relationships, it was cute. This here is just weird and I don't understand how the writers don't see it.

And Jo, Jo is on a dangerous path, I think. She's trying to act tough because bad things have always happened to her and she had to push them aside and act strong to survive, which she did. If the writers gave her the necessary focus now, I'd expect a complete breakdown soon with everything that has happened since she had to witness Alex beat up Deluca. She's not letting anyone in, she's not letting anyone be there for her, I'm not sure how that will go well for much longer. If and in whose presence she will finally crack and break down, no idea. Will we even get a Jolex scene next episode? We should, we 100% should but I'm not hopeful. And that is worse than anything else. No other ship would be ignored like this.
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Old 02-03-2017, 12:02 PM
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I find their friendship almost creepy now. The writers think it's okay to apply everything Meredith and Cristina did on them but some things, like sharing a bed, are just inappropriate for two nearly 40 year olds. Whenever Jo mentioned her problems with things like that, people would call her petty but Jo was 100% right. When Mer and Cristina did these things they were around 30, they were both women, they were both in relationships, it was cute. This here is just weird and I don't understand how the writers don't see it.

And Jo, Jo is on a dangerous path, I think. She's trying to act tough because bad things have always happened to her and she had to push them aside and act strong to survive, which she did. If the writers gave her the necessary focus now, I'd expect a complete breakdown soon with everything that has happened since she had to witness Alex beat up Deluca. She's not letting anyone in, she's not letting anyone be there for her, I'm not sure how that will go well for much longer. If and in whose presence she will finally crack and break down, no idea. Will we even get a Jolex scene next episode? We should, we 100% should but I'm not hopeful. And that is worse than anything else. No other ship would be ignored like this.

Yeah it wasn't going to last and I knew it wouldn't. I didn't even bother getting my hopes up and I didn't watch the episode only the relevant scenes. It's just pointless at this point and I can totally understand why so many people are losing hope with our ship. Such a joke how they're having Jo cave now in isolation. As far as the breakdown itself goes, i understand her behaviour and it is definitely in line with the hardened season 9 version of herself, but doing it now without showing her perspective during the whole of 13A is just causing the reception of her to get even worse. And the merlex, im truly disappointed in how much their friendship is just ruined for me now. That scene made me a bit nauseous, and the way it ended - it's just obvious at this point that Shonda is trying to throw massive red herrings about them, and every single episode that there is a scene like that and no jolex scene at all, is just another blow to jo and Alexs relationship.


You're right, if it was any other couple there would 100% be a jolex scene next week. And there has been so little movement that a tiny scene isn't going to cut it anymore- realistically there are still so many feelings between them, and it's been sooo long since either of them have been with anyone or each other, I would half expect them to hook up/have sex, SOMETHING. They are a passionate couple and they've been through a HUGE emotional crisis, but instead of seeing that, or an honest conversation, watch Alex and his sistahs dance it out instead. Honestly I'm so goddamn over it. Your right, they are creepy and the idea of them actually sharing a bed makes me want to vom


I almost think we are fighting a losing battle when I see things like Shonda saying Alex has come home, and it's to Merediths bedroom. There is something SO wrong about that, and it makes me genuinely worried that she really thinks his deserved endgame is playing a dad to someone else's kids, with his quasi sister. When he was building a life of his own with someone who has always seen him as her number 1, and who wants a family but just can't. I really hope Shonda knows how happy he and Jo were for years and years and how right for each other they are. If it was the Writing from season 10, we would probably see him actually try and help her through her trauma and deal with this husband TOGETHER. That compelling arc literally writes itself, and it would actually resonate with SO many people. Why wouldn't they do it?! Plus, She's his damn person ffs, and that cannon storytelling for 2 seasons doesn't just disappear because Cristina left and Derek died. Alex deserves the best for HIM, and Jo has proved for years and years that she is it.
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Old 02-04-2017, 07:08 AM
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I agree about the red herrings and I hate Shonda for them. Last season I was still seeing more of an effort to remind the people that Alex belongs with Jo. This season, almost nothing. But I don't get what she's doing it for. She can stall Meredith/Nathan without making people think she's gonna pair Meredith with Alex. All she's doing is ruining Jolex here. Her tweet really annoyed the hell out of me, since this woman never even mentioned Jolex in her live tweets this season. For God's sake, if you're so disinterested in them as a couple then why are you keeping Camilla on the show and giving her nothing?

Because that bothers me more than anything. They could've let Jo and Arizona talk about Alex, they could've let Meredith search for him with Jo. Or what else was that prison episode for if Arizona and Jo will keep having no relationship with each other whatsoever? Jo is as isolated as ever, has still no mentor, they make her look like an incompetent doctor and she's pushing everyone away. No wonder the entire fandom is hating on her right now, this is ridiculous.

I would now say that I'm really looking forward to the moment she will see that Alex isn't in jail because I really want to know what she will do, but considering our luck she will probably do nothing and it will be as unspectacular as it can be.
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Old 02-04-2017, 03:23 PM
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There should be times Jolex scenes, which Jo and Alex pronounce themselves and not these Merlex scenes. Alex has to talk to Jo or she's with him. You might be pregnant? And then Alex must know. And I hope then also understand the Merlex fans Meredith and Alex will not be a couple.
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might be pregnant?
Again.. Camilla said Jo won't be pregnant on the show. That's why they are hiding her bump.
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Old 02-04-2017, 05:21 PM
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Again.. Camilla said Jo won't be pregnant on the show. That's why they are hiding her bump.
This will be very difficult to hide your baby. Let's wait. This will be very difficult to hide your baby. Let's wait. Camilla will also be missing for a few episodes. Where is she then? Will Jo then escape from their EX again?
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:23 AM
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She said that in an interview that they are hiding her bump and even use green screen to cover it up. If they wanted a pregnant Jo they wouldn't do that. It's not an unusial doing when an actress is pregnant. They just make shoots from her from her upper body. I remember when Chyler was highly pregnant, she had only scenes where you could see her face or when she was standing behind a desk. And Ellen was in a hospital bed, recovering from an appendix operation. You see, there is always a way to hide it.
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Old 02-05-2017, 07:16 AM
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Yes, but it is annoying, if you only see their faces. At some point you can not hide your belly anymore, because you can do what you want. And a pregnancy would give Jo and Alex more pep in the relationship and make it all the more exciting.
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Old 02-05-2017, 09:49 AM
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That's your opinion, but at the moment they have to deal with their own lives. A pregnancy would make things more complicated. A baby is not a band-aid that can fix up a broken relationship.
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Old 02-05-2017, 10:25 AM
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No of course not, but it would be interesting to see how she would deal with the situation. Because then Alex would definitely have to take responsibility.

And honestly I also miss scenes between De Luca and Jo.
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Old 02-05-2017, 10:26 AM
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I remember when April looked extremely pregnant in season 8, but it was actually Sarah. Her face was so bloated and they did such a poor job at hiding her stomach, lol. It was so obvious. However, they never wrote her pregnancy into the story, just like they won't write Camilla's.

Honestly right now a baby is the last thing they need. Shonda managed to make this domestic storyline worse than I had never imagined. It made things worse for Jolex and a baby is not going to fix it just because you want Meredith and Nathan, lol. I hate Alex and Meredith too right now, but right now Alex has shown some bad judgement in his life. He did not even show any remorse for his actions towards Deluca. Right now what he has to do is redeem himself as a character before he has any children, IMO.
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Old 02-05-2017, 11:26 AM
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Shonda is known for surprises, also for her having a pregnancy with Jo. Someone is still pregnant in the 13 season.

But with Alex you are right, he must finally get his life under control, so what does he do with Meredith in the house? And then she sleeps in her bed. Will he always be there when Meredith and Nathan are together?
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Honestly right now a baby is the last thing they need. Shonda managed to make this domestic storyline worse than I had never imagined. It made things worse for Jolex and a baby is not going to fix it just because you want Meredith and Nathan, lol.
Exactly my thoughts. See Japril. They have a beautiful baby girl and are still separated. When a relationship is already in tutters a baby can only make it worse. I would feel bad for the poor baby.
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Old 02-05-2017, 01:37 PM
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Shonda is known for surprises, also for her having a pregnancy with Jo. Someone is still pregnant in the 13 season.

But with Alex you are right, he must finally get his life under control, so what does he do with Meredith in the house? And then she sleeps in her bed. Will he always be there when Meredith and Nathan are together?

WELL guess who's always been there when Alex and Jo were together? Guess who kicked Jo out of bed in the middle of the night?

But you're right, their friendship is spinning out of control in my opinion. It's too exaggerated. They need to move forward with their lives and focus on their relationships instead of their friendships. Just because it was what Meredith needed after Derek's death, being with her friends, the writers neglected Alex's relationship too.

And tbh posterity you're right, Alex should redeem himself but if you ask the audience barely anyone blames him for anything anyway. They all blame Jo. Or Deluca for being a wuss. It's disgusting actually.

And a baby, well I doubt we will get one anytime soon. We will probably have to watch Owen and Amelia get one before we do, after already getting married before Jolex did. When they happened two seasons after Jolex. But I don't even want a baby, I just want Shonda to do for once what she said she will do. And before the beginning of this season she said she will use this storyline to dive into both Alex and Jo's pasts and tell us more about their childhood. Which I think would be handled best in a centric episode. But guess what my hopes for one are? Zero.
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WELL guess who's always been there when Alex and Jo were together? Guess who kicked Jo out of bed in the middle of the night?

But you're right, their friendship is spinning out of control in my opinion. It's too exaggerated. They need to move forward with their lives and focus on their relationships instead of their friendships. Just because it was what Meredith needed after Derek's death, being with her friends, the writers neglected Alex's relationship too.

And tbh posterity you're right, Alex should redeem himself but if you ask the audience barely anyone blames him for anything anyway. They all blame Jo. Or Deluca for being a wuss. It's disgusting actually.

And a baby, well I doubt we will get one anytime soon. We will probably have to watch Owen and Amelia get one before we do, after already getting married before Jolex did. When they happened two seasons after Jolex. But I don't even want a baby, I just want Shonda to do for once what she said she will do. And before the beginning of this season she said she will use this storyline to dive into both Alex and Jo's pasts and tell us more about their childhood. Which I think would be handled best in a centric episode. But guess what my hopes for one are? Zero.

Hope, of course, dies last. Alex belongs to Jo and not to Meredith. He is not supposed to live like a homeless man at Meredith and to be used. Even if he will not be happy with Jo, he should ****ing try again. Maybe it works. Alex is supposed to be a man, a man like Derek, or a man like Webber or Nathan. Even DeLuca is more man than it is Alex.
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