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I just watched the scene again, and as much as I hate the fact he fought with her that day, and the circumstances behind it, I still love the scene.. It's what I've been wanting for ages, emotional jolex. The only issue I have is that the emotion is mostly Jo, and we aren't seeing what we want to see from Alex. I know he stopped her, but I don't think he is actually registering the fact that she was LEAVING him. Because of that, I really don't know what they will do.
HOWEVER in saying that, I still loved the scene and I think mostly because of the song. If you actually listen to it how PERFECT was it for them!!! 'You were everything to me, and I was begging you please don't go' when Jo is about to walk about the door! Also 'baby just say yes' when he opens the box, but my favourite part is that they used the line 'this love is difficult, but it's real...don't be afraid, we'll make it out of this mess' now I don't know if it means all that much but I LOVED the placement of the song and the cover was BEAUTIFUL. It just reminded me why I love them so much God I just want them to Work it out, Alex, ffs WAKE UP and realise what you have and are almost loosing!!!! |
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I'm just freaking tired of this person crap. It's childish and toxic and it makes people think that Merlex should or will be a couple. Alex's behavior towards Jo these days isn't exactly helping. I don't even need for people to all ship Jolex but I just need for them to accept that Alex and Jo are a longterm couple. The writers didn't change their minds after adding Maggie and Amelia and they didn't change their minds after Derek died. Alex and Jo have had history before these things happened and they have a better understanding of each other than anyone else understands either of them. Just because someone else lost their significant other doesn't mean that Alex's whole story on the show will be re-written so he can be their love interest. And I'm freaking glad that the writers decided to allow him his own story with Jo, even though they haven't exactly showed much of that lately. Quote:
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I think was just perfect for the moment and the text was so appropriate for both Jo and Alex. Like you said I loved the "I was begging you please don't go" and the "baby just say yes", but I also loved that the song talked about "princess" and it reminded me Jolex in S9, and also because in the text there is a part that fixed so much with everything at the moment: Romeo save me, I've been feeling so alone. I keep waiting, for you but you never come. Is this in my head, I don't know what to think- He knelt to the ground and pulled out a ring and said... Marry me Juliet, you'll never have to be alone. I love you, and that's all I really know. Really loved it! Quote:
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I just really really only want a little less of Alex with his stupid friends. If he has to support Meredith I'm fine with that but I can't stand the rest. Except for Arizona but it's not like we're seeing much of that friendship. __________________
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What happened to Spirit of the Radio? Did we chase her away? I hope not. I always enjoyed reading her opinion.
I'm pretty fed up with Alex + the sisters scenes too, but that doesn't mean I find all of Alex's actions in them annoying, stupid or ooc. Eg. I had no problem with him speculating about the Riggs/Hunt situation. Alex was engaged in some gossiping even way back in the earlier seasons. Like when Meredith and George slept together and he said "I bet he caught Meredith doing McDreamy" or something like that. Or when he would bet with Cristina about the whole Derek vs. Finn thing. That's why I actually had no problem with him gossiping. This one time, However, what I did have problem with was the way he was so oblivious to Jo in the car. And then of course the things he said during their fight. That was pretty bad. Still, I try to keep in mind, that it HAD to be pretty bad in order to get Jo where the writers wanted her to be in the end. They had her putting up with so much all this time, so they made it worse to show she's finally had enough. IMO it was pretty bad writing. It was plot-driven instead of character-driven. They knew where they wanted this story to end - with a cliffhanger proposal - but they didn't put that much effort into making it all covincing. Bc one can't help but wonder: Who on earth would propose to their SO after a huge fight where you basically negated all of your girlfriend's worries? Also yeah, I think the fact that Jo was about to leave, didn't completely register with Alex. But he would be a pretty unperceptive and insensitive moron, if it didn't dawn on him once he had a minute to process and think about everything for a moment. It happened all so quickly after all. I'm willing to cut him some slack for the moment. But still... I hope this ends up being Alex's wake-up call. I need him to realise how close he is to losing Jo. And while I believe that everything he said was genuine, he needs turn his words into actions. Because only saying it is not good enough. |
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Anyone have heard the last podcast? nothing on Jolex??
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I guess it's true that it was all rather plot-driven. I'm just pretty sure that this proposal isn't gonna end well, so I hope that the writers have a good storyline up their sleeves and needed this proposal as a catalyst or something. Because if it was only done to give Jolex a cliffhanger I don't like that idea much. Btw I was scared we had chased you away too, I'msolost. Glad you're still here. ryanforever I just looked and the last Shondaland revealed was with Tony Goldwyn, so I assume they only talked about Scandal. Do you know if they do any podcasts during the hiatus? __________________
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Alex IS super frustrating. I can totally understand xsweetgirlx91. Most of his scenes lately annoy me too and I guess most of it is because of his friends. But like you two said, the way he treats Jo is what's worst.
I honestly don't understand him anymore. Maybe Jo should've said something sooner, she definitely should've said something sooner, but is he really so obvlivious that he doesn't even realize that he neglected her? Just a tiny bit of self-awareness would be nice. Something like "I know I haven't been there for you as much as I should've. It's just that Mer had so much going on and she needed me and I got caught up in being there for her." Just something that tells me that he's aware of what he's doing. It blows my mind that he thinks that proposing to her after treating her the way he did would be a good idea. Or you know, why is he treating her like this in the first place? Ignoring her at work, ignoring her in the car, dismissing everything she says? I have no doubts that he loves her and that he genuinely wants to marry her. But his actions don't match his words or his mind. __________________
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Exactly that is my problem. Alex is a guy so I'm not surprised that he's pretty oblivious about most things but when it comes to Meredith he has this OTT intuition that tells him when she's upset but when it comes to Jo he doesn't even see how treating her the way he is is not ideal?
I'm telling you, to me it just feels like the writers have messed up both Alex and Jo pretty bad. They're not writing them how they should be written but how they just need them to behave because they use them for other characters and their storylines. For me Alex is worse though because with Jo I at least understand where she's coming from. Maybe it's easier for me in her case because I'm a woman too. I read someone saying that Alex's treatment of Jo changes drastically whenever he's with friends and whenever it's just him and Jo. Guess that's true. God when did all of this happen? I don't want a marriage where Alex is MIA most days because he's hanging out with his friends or where they're at a dinner party and he doesn't even sit next to Jo. I think what I desperately need for Jolex is a common friend. Or maybe a couple that is friends with them whom they can double date with. So I can see them hang out with people but still act like a couple. Not have Alex ignore her just because he's among his friiends. __________________
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More I think about it and more I realize how Jo's situation was exaggerated only for the cliffhanger. They needed Alex be there for Meredith, so since they had this story, they decided to use it and put it at the limit for the proposal. Otherwise why Jo would said no to Alex? There wasn't reason for it, you see it also in 12x03 how Jo wanted more, so they needed a problem for make a cliffhanger. And they decide to make Jo feel like crap so we can have this stand-by situation. The problem is that they did it in a really horrible way. They destroyed everything, they ruined Jo, and sure they ruined Alex with that, because I will never accept that Alex could say these horrible things the same day he wants to propose to the person he wants to marry, absolutely no. It was all about a really bad writing IMO. Now I just hope they try to fix it with Alex finally understand the problem, with a really big wake up call for him, that only Jo can give him. Quote:
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His behavior does change. He sides with his friends over Jo. He laughed in her face
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I hope the fact that Jo will not say yes (not sure if she will say no) will make Alex realize that he can't keep going like this. Nobody, including Jo, says that he shouldn't be there for his friends but he's overdoing it and he's treating Jo like crap in the process. I hate that the writers have done this to Jolex and I hate that it's Alex who has become so obsessed with his superficial friendships. I really need a change there, I'm pretty sure i'll take almsot every possible scenario. Either they include Jo more into his friendships (what about the Mer/Jo bonding Shonda wanted to do??? If Jo and Alex will get married at some point there better be some Mer/Jo bonding first) or they make Alex spend less time with his friends or they just give him and Jo a common new friend (couple). Quote:
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For this reason I said since they needed Alex for Mer and couldn't have him busy for something else related to his relationship, they used the same storyline for make a problem for Jolex; practically they killed two birds with one stone, they had Alex all for what they needed and they had Jo with no one, so they didn't need even to develop her, and they got a Jolex's problem/cliffhanger with minimal effort. What a genius they are. Quote:
And I still remember Shonda's comment about how "Mer needs to know Jo".. the problem is, I don't know if I still want some kind of relationship between them. Sure I want see them be civil and Mer stops be a completely bitch, but after all of her "acidity" I'm not sure I want something else now. |
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I will never take his side in that. He should be completely ASHAMED of himself!
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