Grey's Anatomy - 3x05 Oh The Guilt - Page 2

infinite sadness · 10-16-2006, 07:12 PM

I assumed the resident they'd defend is Bailey. I actually though Callie was an attending... but I really don't know anything.

I figured it would be Bailey with reference to the Izzie situation.

I also think Burke is going to knock some sense into Izzie, though I don't know how long it will take to sink in.

As for Derek/Addison/Mark... I don't think Derek knows that she stayed with him after he left. And I really don't know how he'll react. It could go either way really. As much as I love Addie, Derek would have the right to be upset with her for not telling him that detail, considering that he probably would've stuck with Meredith then and none of this would've gone down the way it has. But then we wouldn't have the drama and mroe importantly we wouldn't have Addie, so I'm glad it went the way it did.

Either way, Derek doesn't seem to have even considered that Addison loved Mark, he seems to view it as nothing more than a lustful tryst... so maybe he'll sympathize the way Addie sympathized with Mere last week... who knows...

Deb D · 10-16-2006, 09:44 PM

Just about the medical positions of all the characters, I've done some research and:

Surgical Interns:
Dr. Meredith Grey
Dr. Cristina Yang
Dr. Isobel Stevens
Dr. Alex Karev
Dr. George O'Malley

Residents:
Dr. Miranda Bailey (Senior surgical resident - general surgeon)
Dr. Callie Torres (Orthopedic surgeon)

Attendings:
Dr. Addison Forbes Montgomery-Shepherd (Neonatal surgeon/Maternal-fetal medicine specialist)
Dr. Preston Xavier Burke (Cardiothoracic surgeon)
Dr. Derek Shepherd (Neurosurgeon)
Dr. Mark Sloan (Plastic surgeon)

Chief of Surgery:
Dr Richard Webber

infinite sadness · 10-16-2006, 10:38 PM

Sheesh, Addison has a long name... though I guess it's soon to be shortened since the divorce is finally happening.

Anyway, can someone explain to me the difference between residents and attendings?

IsabelAmandaEvans · 10-16-2006, 10:47 PM

According to Wikpedia

A resident is

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A resident physician is more commonly referred to as a resident, or alternatively as a house officer. The residents collectively are the house staff of a hospital. This term comes from the fact that traditionally resident physicians lived the majority of their lives "in house," i.e. the hospital. The duration of most primary care residencies is three years for primary care, with the year beginning on July 1 and ending on June 30, though it could be more than seven years for a specialized field. A first-year resident is often termed an intern. Depending on the number of years a specialty requires, the term junior resident refers to residents that have not completed half their residency. Senior residents are residents in their final year of residency. The supervising physicians past residency are referred to as attending physicians or attendings.

An attending is

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An attending physician is a physician that has completed residency and practices medicine in a clinic or hospital, often focusing on the specialty learned during residency. An attending physician can also supervise residents and medical students.

Legally, attending physicians have final responsibility for patient care, even when many of the minute-to-minute decisions are being made by subordinates (nurse practitioners, physician assistants, resident physicians, and medical students).

The term attending physician or attending also refers to the formal relationship of a hospitalized patient and their primary doctor, as opposed to ancillary physicians assisting the primary doctor, referred to as consultants

Basically the difference is the years they worked. In Grey's Anatomy timeline, according to creator Shonda Rhimes, our interns have yet to finish one complete year of residency.

From Shonda's FAQs blog:

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When is the first year of residency over?
On our show, the first year of residency will be over sometime near the end of Season Three or the beginning of Season Four. Our show is odd in that an episode may air that is actually in real time only moments after the last episode ended. So much less than a year of time has passed on the show since the pilot aired. And I wanted to honor that.

So I think in GA's timeline we are somewhere in early Spring to late Spring....maybe

. I think Bailey would be a senior year resident I believe.

sigf · 10-16-2006, 10:53 PM

Wow, thanks so much for the info Deb and IsabelAmandaEvans! That really helped clear things up a bit.

On another note, I was thinking about the Izzie inheritence situation... and I'm really wondering where the writers are planning to take this. I mean, they wouldn't just make her rich for no reason, right? There has to be a purpose to this money... I'm wondering how it's going to help advance some of the storylines.

Deb D · 10-16-2006, 11:10 PM

You're welcome Candace

Yeah, I'm realy intrigued about the money too. Like will Izzie feel guilty and reject it etc...

Thanks Melissa - specialty training takes forever! No wonder it's high-school with scalpels.

Robotica · 10-16-2006, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ngatiara (View Post)

Don't worry... My first thought was Bailey as well... But what has she done?

Exactly...

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So which resident is it?

I haven't a clue...*shakes head*

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What have they done?

Suffice to say I know even less...

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It must be a resident they're close to, otherwise they wouldn't feel the need to defend them.

This is what I'm thinking...

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It could be Burke... I'm thinking that because of his hand he might screw up a surgery or something?

I'd wonder that, but isn't Burke an attending?

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I figured it would be Bailey with reference to the Izzie situation.

This is my best guess...

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I also think Burke is going to knock some sense into Izzie, though I don't know how long it will take to sink in.

Fair enough...I'm inclined to agree with you...but it's how it'll immediately affect her that has me concerned...

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Either way, Derek doesn't seem to have even considered that Addison loved Mark, he seems to view it as nothing more than a lustful tryst... so maybe he'll sympathize the way Addie sympathized with Mere last week... who knows...

Eh, here's an angle I hadn't taken...him sympathizing with her situation...though I suppose anything's possible...

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Just about the medical positions of all the characters, I've done some research and:

Surgical Interns:
Dr. Meredith Grey
Dr. Cristina Yang
Dr. Isobel Stevens
Dr. Alex Karev
Dr. George O'Malley

Residents:
Dr. Miranda Bailey (Senior surgical resident - general surgeon)
Dr. Callie Torres (Orthopedic surgeon)

Attendings:
Dr. Addison Forbes Montgomery-Shepherd (Neonatal surgeon/Maternal-fetal medicine specialist)
Dr. Preston Xavier Burke (Cardiothoracic surgeon)
Dr. Derek Shepherd (Neurosurgeon)
Dr. Mark Sloan (Plastic surgeon)

Chief of Surgery:
Dr Richard Webber

This is how I pretty much thought it all came together...

So far as Izzie's money is concerned, I still see her donating a large portion of it to the hospital in Denny's memory...and perhaps helping forge a new cardiac wing in his name or something...but that's just a guess...

ForkInTheRoad · 10-17-2006, 09:51 AM

I just really don't want the show to make everything with Mark and Addison out to be 100% their fault or for the show to demonize them just to make Derek look better. Mark loves Addison, and I think she loves him deep down, but is unwilling to admit that to herself. The show has the opportunity with potentially writing a great story for Mark/Addison, but I see where they could big time mess it up by trying too hard to get everyone to sympathize with Derek.

infinite sadness · 10-17-2006, 12:09 PM

If Callie's a resident, I could see them defending her. Maybe something goes wrong or happens early in the episode, and she's defended later on in it.

And I agree with the above poster-- I really hope they don't demonize Addie or Mark just to make Derek look better. I was reading some of the blog for the first time yesterday and was quite shocked by how emphatic SR was about Derek... I mean, I expected her to like all the characters, and that seems to be the case, but she really loves Derek. And she said that what Addison did to him was way worse than what Der/Mer did at prom, which I simply don't agree with. Adultery is adultery. Just cause Addison did it first, it doesn't give Derek a freebie. (and if you bring in the 'best friend' angle, I find that more of an issue between Derek and Mark. Sure, you wouldn't want it to happen because then it's 2 people close to you hurting you, instead of 1...but the adultery angle is exactly the same). Either way, I really hope that they play everything out realistically and if they need to make Derek look better, they should do it by how own merits, not by bringing down other characters. But hey, Derek is apparently trying to take full responsibility for the divorce, so he's taking a step in the right direction. They both need to acknowledge that it's both of their faults though. And the writers have done a good enough job of balancing things out in the past so...we'll see...*rant over*

infinite sadness · 10-17-2006, 12:10 PM

*double post* My computer said it didn't post at all...liar... anyways...

IsabelAmandaEvans · 10-17-2006, 01:04 PM

Callie is a resident

. Bailey and the creator noted it. I'm going with Bailey competency is in question. I don't know if any of you guys remember Bailey told Meredith "If someone dies my ass is on the line" in the pilot. Denny's medical case is in question, and Bailey did say she would take part of the blame for what happened(which she should since she failed as a teacher). Which ties into getting Izzie back into the hospital at some point this season. This is closing off some of ramfications dealing with the Denny incident. Also on the nurse's blog they mentioned this:

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The interesting thing is, Dr. Bailey seems to be all about getting Izzie back into the surgical program. Saw her nagging the Chief about it just a little bit ago. It’s funny – because after what happened with the rogue Denny Duquette intern situation, there have been rumblings about Bailey’s competency as well

Callie screentime should be centered on ship-orientated with McSteamy and George.

ForkInTheRoad-I agree you do have a point. I seen that happen several times dealing with characters involved in ships, and trying to redeem a character in the viewer/reader's eyes. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually try to lower Addison and Mark down to rise up Derek because is not well like no matter what board it is

. Still in all said is done the decisions were made. Derek made is his over and over again. Just as Addison. In the end they both royally screwed up. Here is the thing whatever is revealed about Mark and Addison I believe it will balance the long S1 fling Derek had with Meredith. It will make both adulterous ships equal. Furthermore, Derek should no longer care what the backstory is since the marriage between him and Addison are finished. Whatever is revealed that Addison lied about to me it's no different when Derek lied to Meredith and to Addison. He lied to two women. Karma always finds away to bite you in the booty one way or another especially in GA

. I also agree with infinite sadness that because Addison did it first Derek shouldn't get a freebie. That's elementary school logic

. It's like "he hit me first"

. Come on. Two wrongs don't make a right. To me every single person is equal in this Four Square triangle. No completely innocent party. No completely terrible party. They royally screwed up, and was a variable in all of it.

GreysLover · 10-17-2006, 01:40 PM

but what do you guys think will happen with Merideth's and Derek's relationship?!?! Is it over or is the relationship going to rekindle itself in a few episodes. Please pleas please help me out!

~Grey's Lover

IsabelAmandaEvans · 10-17-2006, 02:01 PM

Spoiler clips released for "Oh, The Guilt"
YouTube - Greys Anatomy episode 5 TWO spoiler clips

Spoiler:

Deb D · 10-17-2006, 03:46 PM

Thanks for the clips Melissa!

Srta_Parker · 10-17-2006, 03:52 PM

Thanks for the clips!!!!!!!


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