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Old 09-27-2011, 04:33 AM
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I don't understand her hair either, I get that they wanted to change it show a physical change being she was changing mentally, but the timing was way off
I read somewhere that Julianna tweeted the show was supposed to be picking up like a week after the season finale. I guess the writing was intentionally vague then, with Will and Alicia talking "about last night" and someone congratulating Alicia or Will (can't remember) on yesterday's win (which could have been the case from the season finale, but it also could've been something else).

The other thing that bugged me with the time issue was Cary commenting on Kalinda being scarce. If they had just talked like a day or two before, that wouldn't make much sense (unless they were in the habit of seeing each other pretty much every day, in which case, you've been holding out on us, Show!).

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I'm a little bit obsessed with that threesome scene in Cary's office. I've always wondered how much Cary knows or has heard about Kalinda's sexual proclivities. Yes, she is intensely private, but she also seems to have a history of sexing up quite a few people in the Chicago justice system (Tony, Donna, Sophia, Peter, Lana to name a few), so there has to be gossip about her. How much has he heard, and how much does he believe? I think he was too distracted by the hotness of the women in the room to recognize the sexual tension crackling between them, but I could be wrong. (They weren't trying terribly hard to cover it up, with the "strange bedfellows" comments.) His head shake and exhalation when Kalinda left seemed to be more about the thrill of having her back in his office again and his overall attraction to her than a recognition of what just happened with regard to Sophia.

I also wonder how much of their interaction tipped Sophia off to Cary and Kalinda's own "thing" - was it more obvious from Kalinda's behavior or Cary's? She knows Kalinda better, but Cary wears his heart (and other parts of his anatomy) on his sleeve sometimes. Obviously she read a bit too far into it (assuming something has already happened between them).

That Will/K bar scene just kills me. "What are normal people like?" with the way her face freezes and then the smallest twitch of her mouth...I like to think she is remembering the last time she was talking to someone about normality.

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Where did we leave off, Wives? Let’s see…Eli had brought his firm in-house to Lockhart Gardner and Alicia was his new liaison. Kalinda was retreating further into herself than ever before with Cary as her only remaining connection to keep her from completely icing over.

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Cary is as inscrutable and driven as ever, and only Kalinda really understands him (I loved seeing it dawn on her that Cary was up to something with his traffic light bait-and-switch at the start of the episode).
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I hate replying to myself and I hope no one thinks I am spamming the thread, but I saw this and it was too adorable not to post:



And this is very pretty-ful, especially with our background colors:



(both found here, sorry I don't know more about tumblr to identify and link specific sources)

Also, this thread does not belong on the second page after the episode we got Sunday!
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Im sorry Arista, I was in the middle of replying to your post this morning and firefox closed on me Then I had to go and got distracted This thread does not belong on page two

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I'm a little bit obsessed with that threesome scene in Cary's office. I've always wondered how much Cary knows or has heard about Kalinda's sexual proclivities. Yes, she is intensely private, but she also seems to have a history of sexing up quite a few people in the Chicago justice system
That was the hottest thing ever, especially Kalinda, walking in between them leaving the room sigh: I think Cary knows, he just doesn't let on that he knows.

That quote from Vulture is hysterical, I love how its worded

Only Kalinda understands him, that is so true, so damn true

Thanks for bringing the pretties over, good thing to see after a long day I love Cary's facial expression in the first one
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Old 09-27-2011, 07:23 PM
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First of all, no one should EVER apologize for posting pretty things. EVER. (That absolutely genuine little smile in the first one is the cutest thing EVER. )

Second of all, I will be rewatching tonight. Of course I will be VERY carefully rewatching them.

Cary had two hot women in his office. He is a man. I'm guessing that he had some dirty thoughts just like the rest of us. Beyond that, I don't know what he knows. I'm pretty sure he knows Kalinda's not a virgin. Whether he knows she swings both ways, I haven't a clue. Again, he probably wouldn't analyze that too deeply. He is a guy after all.

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That Will/K bar scene just kills me. "What are normal people like?" with the way her face freezes and then the smallest twitch of her mouth...I like to think she is remembering the last time she was talking to someone about normality.
I didn't notice that but I always wonder how much is intentional with this show. A lot seems to be. It's possible she was thinking of that I suppose.

Thanks for bringing the reviews, too, btw. The Vulture one is hilarious, and I do think C/K have a better understanding of each other than other people do I believe that one is very true, too.

ETA: These two are just...I love how she loves the new Cary. You know she does. You know she thinks it's kinda hot. And even Sophia sees the chemistry. She totally thought they were doin' it.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:09 AM
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I didn't notice that but I always wonder how much is intentional with this show. A lot seems to be. It's possible she was thinking of that I suppose.
I think its somewhat intentional, but its hard to tell to what extent
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Old 09-28-2011, 04:50 PM
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Im sorry Arista, I was in the middle of replying to your post this morning and firefox closed on me
Oh, that happens to me all the time and I know how ridiculously frustrating it is, Carmen. Nothing to be sorry about - I was just embarrassed that I'm apparently so fixated I'm not above talking to myself in a public forum.

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That was the hottest thing ever, especially Kalinda, walking in between them leaving the room
Uh, yeah... I need fic for this so bad.

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I think Cary knows, he just doesn't let on that he knows.
I think that could work. Right now I guess it's good because they've left their options open. I'd buy whatever they go with and in the meantime I'm just insanely curious.

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I'm pretty sure he knows Kalinda's not a virgin. Whether he knows she swings both ways, I haven't a clue. Again, he probably wouldn't analyze that too deeply. He is a guy after all.
I have no doubts about the first part. And I think you're right that he would not have qualms about the rest of it either, meggie. So I suppose it doesn't matter. It's just another layer to her that I want to know if he's figured out yet, I guess.

In other news, I find something new to gush about every time I re-watch their scenes (which if I was counting would now be some black-holish type number I shouldn't consider any further)...

I cannot stop watching that gif of Cary smiling in the doorway! And I adore the way Matt plays the moment where Cary thinks to look in the file on his desk and realizes what Kalinda did.

I also found the Sophia/Kalinda scene at the campus interesting as far as implications for C/K. Sophia looked puzzled by Kalinda's reaction to the question about her and Cary. Was she surprised Kalinda would give up that information so easily, or was she thinking that Kalinda was just putting her off but that there was some truth to it based on how K reacted? The way Kalinda rolled her eyes and looked away when confronted about it was screaming that Sophia had hit on something. And I freaking love how she can't refrain from smiling when his name is brought up (Alicia in the bar scene and again here).

Did anyone get kind of a strange vibe from the scene in the bar where they catch the killer? It's interesting, because the dialogue is about a love triangle that ended v.v. badly, and Sophia and Kalinda are looking at each other (rather than the killer) when they speak the dialogue. Something about it seemed like they were projecting the situation onto their own. The way Sophia said "You stabbed him" made me fear for Cary's well-being just a little.

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I didn't notice that but I always wonder how much is intentional with this show. A lot seems to be. It's possible she was thinking of that I suppose.
If Cary's original line hadn't been such a "thing", I wouldn't be quite so inclined to believe the parallel dialogue was intentional. But it was a tag for that scene (a hugely pivotal scene) and I just have to think that at least the writing was meant to echo it. I don't know if Archie was playing it that way or not, but I choose to believe the subtext is there.

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Of course she does. Don't we all?
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:37 PM
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I was just embarrassed that I'm apparently so fixated I'm not above talking to myself in a public forum.
I edit my posts all the time. It's kind of like replying to myself. That's sad, too.

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I have no doubts about the first part. And I think you're right that he would not have qualms about the rest of it either, meggie. So I suppose it doesn't matter. It's just another layer to her that I want to know if he's figured out yet, I guess.
I was really just being funny (with serious undertones) but I really don't know what he knows. I don't think it really matters because I don't think it would upset him or put him off. (Becausehe'saguy. )

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I cannot stop watching that gif of Cary smiling in the doorway! And I adore the way Matt plays the moment where Cary thinks to look in the file on his desk and realizes what Kalinda did.
I think he's proud of himself because what he said to her in the finale appeared to kind of get through to her. At least she's talking to him again. It's a start.

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I also found the Sophia/Kalinda scene at the campus interesting as far as implications for C/K. Sophia looked puzzled by Kalinda's reaction to the question about her and Cary. Was she surprised Kalinda would give up that information so easily, or was she thinking that Kalinda was just putting her off but that there was some truth to it based on how K reacted? The way Kalinda rolled her eyes and looked away when confronted about it was screaming that Sophia had hit on something. And I freaking love how she can't refrain from smiling when his name is brought up (Alicia in the bar scene and again here).
Hard to say about the campus scene. I rewatched last night but I guess I didn't think much about it. The smile *is* almost automatic now, though. So cute.

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Did anyone get kind of a strange vibe from the scene in the bar where they catch the killer? It's interesting, because the dialogue is about a love triangle that ended v.v. badly, and Sophia and Kalinda are looking at each other (rather than the killer) when they speak the dialogue. Something about it seemed like they were projecting the situation onto their own. The way Sophia said "You stabbed him" made me fear for Cary's well-being just a little.
Apparently I was too focused on the fact that that was some HOT stuff going on with them working together. I totally wasn't paying that much attention to the parallel. I would hope poor Cary wouldn't end up physically injured but K's still got that bat so...

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Oh, that happens to me all the time and I know how ridiculously frustrating it is, Carmen. Nothing to be sorry about - I was just embarrassed that I'm apparently so fixated I'm not above talking to myself in a public forum.
It happens a lot, especially involving these two In the episode disc. thread, there are DP's all over the place, cause it was just that overwhelming So nothing to be embarrassed about Besides those pictures you posted, that gorgeous artwork I mean, is well worth the DP

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I cannot stop watching that gif of Cary smiling in the doorway! And I adore the way Matt plays the moment where Cary thinks to look in the file on his desk and realizes what Kalinda did.
Me either, I love it when he smirks, especially around Kalinda Just makes me incapable of speaking for a while

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I also found the Sophia/Kalinda scene at the campus interesting as far as implications for C/K. Sophia looked puzzled by Kalinda's reaction to the question about her and Cary. Was she surprised Kalinda would give up that information so easily, or was she thinking that Kalinda was just putting her off but that there was some truth to it based on how K reacted?
I was interested in that too Obviously Sophia knew they were friends and all, but seeing her facial expression, I don't think she thought there were any feelings there at all. I have thought about this, and its really hard to tell if it was surprise, or if she just thought Kalinda was just blowing her off. I wish we would find out the answer to that too. But with her being on another show, who knows if we will unfortunelty.
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I was watching AGAIN the bar scene and I noticed that Cary is playing with his left hand fingers and I'm not sure if it was just a Matt's thing or if it was a thing Matt "added" to show Cary's feelings... that he was nervous for istance. Or it was just nothing and I just watched to many times that scene.
Anyway I was wondering if Cary was also somehow putting to the test Kalinda and if her answers gave him another good reason to slip over her...
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Me either, I love it when he smirks, especially around Kalinda Just makes me incapable of speaking for a while
It kills me when he does that with her because you know it's genuine. It's not snarky, it's him showing her genuine affection. He totally can't hide that he likes her. So cute.

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I was watching AGAIN the bar scene and I noticed that Cary is playing with his left hand fingers and I'm not sure if it was just a Matt's thing or if it was a thing Matt "added" to show Cary's feelings... that he was nervous for istance. Or it was just nothing and I just watched to many times that scene.
Anyway I was wondering if Cary was also somehow putting to the test Kalinda and if her answers gave him another good reason to slip over her...
This is another one of those things that I'm figuring is probably intentional on some level but whether it's just supposed to be a nervous habit of Cary's or it's supposed to mean what you're suggesting, I have no idea. He definitely acts differently around her but nervously? I don't know if I think that.
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Yeah, I would have just edited except that it was like 8 hours later and I figured no one would see it if I did that. The thread needed to be bumped anyway.

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Apparently I was too focused on the fact that that was some HOT stuff going on with them working together. I totally wasn't paying that much attention to the parallel.
After I posted that, I thought "Oh gawd, am I on crack for going there?" When I watched again, I thought maybe they were just focused on each other rather than the killer so they could surprise him when they went in for the kill. But there is just an edge to Sophia's voice that struck me.

As for the bat...Kalinda will never live that down...

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I have thought about this, and its really hard to tell if it was surprise, or if she just thought Kalinda was just blowing her off.
Oh good - I was not the only one. And you summed it up much better than I did. You're right that we won't get an answer - so frustrating.

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Good catch and interesting theory. I will have to take a look back at that scene again. (Such a chore! )

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I loved this scene, when he realized what Kalinda did, laughed so hard, the second time I saw it obviously, was too out of it the first

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I'm brain dead and not even from jetlag but just wanted to say thanks for the pretty.
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