[Cristofle]

Also, this is randomly cute.



Bedtime for Liz, and carry on!

[JJM_7]

Thanks for the new thread, Liz. Night!

[Sam_MC]

New thread

Im heading off as well. Night everyone.

[Allybally]

EEk! They are so adorable!

Aaaand, I'm out. Night, all!

[Gio Gio]

Ironically, of the three couples, even though their moment was lower key I thought Derek and Meredith's moment was the most emotional and touching. My mom, who watched an entire episode for the first time, agrees. LOL.

ITA with you and with your mom. Honestly I think MD are the best GA couple (probably I'm not objective because I'm a big fan of them).
I loved their final scene so much. They remind me Chandler and Monica.

[- bad romance -]

This.Title.Rocks Seriously, I want to marry it

The romance that comes off as the most authentic is the one she isn't even trying to write - go figure I think she's putting so much "effort" in to R/Hr and H/G (in order to cover up H/Hr) that it has the opposite effect where the supposed canon romances just seem really fake and forced. I mean, in what alternate reality would Harry actually date Ginny for crying out loud? It's absolute insanity - I think I cried when I read The Kiss in HBP. The H/G hints were also far too obvious and forced. It was like JKR was thinking "I've been meaning to write H/G for years but s**t, I haven't left a single clue in the past 5 books for the readers to follow, I'll just start flinging in jealously and chest monsters and hope they buy it" Her only saving grace is that she said they would "come together and part" which is exactly what happened in book 6. If they reunite in book 7 I'll shoot myself in the head.

I'd love to rant on R/Hr, but I have to leave for a dental appointment now *groan* Expect "R/Hr and why Jo's writing of it sucked" coming at at some point later today.

[addicted2theOC]

Ugh H/G and R/Hr.

How can someone want to keep them apart?

• SENSE AND SENSIBILITY - IMAGE GALLERY - Promotional Shoots/POApromo 28

[Lyndsi]

hey guys how are yall?. i havent been here in a whhhhile and thought id stop by

[Sam_MC]

Watched Grey's Brilliant episode!

Pretty much agree with everything you said, Liz!

Katherine Heigl really rocked! The Amish storyline was also awesome. From what I know, Amish are usually made fun of in the media so it was cool to see this sort of storyline.

The Callie/Cristina stuff was awesome I like Callie with everyone but George, which I guess really isnt the point of where the storyline is going lol.

The marriage proposals were weird. Felt kind of like a stunt even though they didnt promote it or anything - I dont see how either couple could even consider getting married. But then again we had Britney and Kevin for a while there, so maybe being ready for marriage isnt a requirement to get married anymore.

I guess this means the Chief wont be retiring.

I randomly loved the Meredith/Sloane scene. They should interact more.

But Derek and Meredith were something else. Hands down the best scene of the episode and one of - if not the best - scene of the season. Meredith is a complex character, and its fascinating seeing her learn all of this stuff that most people just know. And unlike the other couples, there was no forced tension or drama - the most real couple on the show. And to think they used to be the most "soapy" couple.

Cant wait for next week. The promo looks insane. And now I must sleep.

[CreekFreak]

Sam, I think we were all wounded by The OC, that we're shocked when other writers utilize the idea of BALANCE with the "dramatic couple." LOL.

[oy_humbug]

From ew.com:

Too Many Chiefs On ''Grey's Anatomy,'' the top surgeons start to battle to become head of surgery; plus, Burke and George propose, and Bailey tries to start a free clinic By Vanessa Juarez As Meredith's voice-over about great expectations kicked off last night's episode, I thought this could either be really good or, as Addison might say, vomit in the mouth. Unfortunately for us, the cheerleaders of Seattle Grace Hospital, it was the latter. (My poor pom-poms are sad.) Let's begin with the scene where I thought things really started to go downhill. It was two-thirds or so into the ep, when Meredith and Shepherd had had a really asinine fight at the hospital and it looked as if they too might be on their way to the International House of Silence. Until Shepherd came home and said to Mere, ''I was a jerk. Sometimes boyfriends can be jerks. It doesn't mean you stop talking. You get that I'm saying I'm sorry.'' To which Mere replied, ''You yelled at me for no reason and then you walked away and now you show up here.'' Shepherd: ''Of course I showed up. Why wouldn't I? You don't trust me?'' Mere: ''I do.'' Shepherd: ''Okay, well, this is how it works. You fight sometimes, and somebody apologizes.'' Mere: ''Well, how am I supposed to know that?'' Okay. Stop the HTML. Did Mere just ask how she was supposed to know that? Was she kidding? Is she 12? I'm going out on a limb here, but typically, when you get in a fight with anyone in your life in any kind of relationship — lover, friend, child, parent — you usually apologize. Especially if you were fighting about something stupid to begin with. It's what you do. It's called ''getting over it'' — but I digress. So I thought the kicker of the show would be that Adele had moved on with her life sans Richard. But I was wrong. (It could've made for a good cliff-hanger, no?) Then Burke asked Cristina to marry him. Yipes! I thought, this has got to be the end. But then I was wrong again (a very rare event, I might add), and I lost it. George began bending his knee, proposal-style, and I began curling up in the fetal position. Two proposals in one episode? For goodness' sake, Grey's writers, let the story lines breathe. Instead of the whole great-expectations thing as the theme of this ep, it should have been titled ''What Happens as an Adult When You're Not Picked for Kickball in Grade School.'' Burke, Shepherd, McSteamy, and Addison are supposed to be some of the best surgeons in the country, yet they all acted like whiny children at the mere possibility [enter bright ray of light] of becoming chief. Don't get me wrong — there were definitely some salvageable parts to the episode. I love that Cristina and Callie will eventually become friends, probably bonding over being such hard-asses — though I've been trying to figure out why Cristina is always wearing that emotional armor. Is it because she's been in the Dead Dads Club for so long? Could it be — dare I say? — great expectations? Or pothos, the Greek notion that ''some people, no matter how much they achieve, no matter how much they're loved, they continue to chase a horizon that will never arrive''? (Today I happened to be reading an interview with Baz Luhrmann from back when he was planning to do a movie about Alexander the Great, hence the Greek...oh, never mind.) Callie, at least, can be empathetic outside the hospital. Seeing as how she was living in the hospital basement, I assume that she had a rough life, which would be a quasi-good excuse for being icy. But why does Cristina continue to be so stubborn? Meanwhile, George has turned into a sex machine. Hey, we all grieve differently. Speaking of grief, how distressed were you to watch Callie slicing up that dude's legs? Holy crap. She basically said, ''Hey man, if you want to keep your legs, you're going to have to be still while I cut slits into your calves like apple pie.'' Um, okay, but please hold the Ã* la mode. It's safe to say that the Amish people did not watch last night's episode, nor are they reading this TV Watch (sniff, sniff), but I thought that patient's scenario was out of the ordinary. I'm glad that the mother and father weren't made out to be reps of some merciless cult. By the way, did I miss something? What happened to the patients? Will there be closure on their stories next week? And what did you guys think of Nazi-land this week? The free-clinic stuff was sort of a snooze. Izzie is going to keep throwing her $8 mil at people until they finally take it. (Iz, I just want you to know that I'm still paying off school loans. Nudge-nudge.) Bailey did have that one good line aimed at the super-surgeons: ''I know you all have your messy love lives and your secrets and your silliness, but I want more.'' Changing the subject to a little TMI, but there's something about karma that makes me want to be a believer. Maybe it's that warm, fuzzy feeling of Schadenfreude I get when it works in my favor. (Boy, I sound like Cristina.) Anyhoo, the reason I bring that up is because my favorite part of the episode was when Karev pulled Addison into the storage room and said, ''You kissed me, and ever since, you've been avoiding me. You've been avoiding me because you just assume that I want you. You just expect that everyone you look at sideways is pining after you, right? Has it even occurred to you that maybe I'm not interested?'' Wow. How about them apples? So, kids. The moral of this story is that when you make it to the finish line, you'll be relieved. And you'll still probably have a big ego and low self-esteem.

[Cristofle]

But then again we had Britney and Kevin for a while there, so maybe being ready for marriage isnt a requirement to get married anymore.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. So true.

I really just cannot begin to see how Burke/Cristina or Callie/George are remotely ready for marriage. Had Burke proposed back when they seemed really solid at the beginning of the season, maybe. But their relationship has been in shambles for weeks; they communicate as well as five year olds when the going gets tough. I'd work on putting the relationship back together before getting married. And seriously, I don't have enough time in the day to list all the reasons Callie and George aren't ready for marriage. The top few are that's the first time he's ever said he loves her; he barely took her seriously for most of this season. They've been apart for months, a large chunk of that being spent not speaking for one reason or another. And their relationship wasn't close to marriage when they were together, not even CLOSE. You need to build a foundation before you get married. But maybe that's the point, that he's acting out of grief and not any kind of healthy desire to get married.

I was more impressed with the MerDer scene because it seemed more real. Meredith and Derek (while ironically probably closer to it than those two couples, lol) probably aren't ready for marriage, and we're seeing these steps. Learning how to share things with each other. Then learning how to literally live and sleep together. Now learning how to handle a fight like a mature couple.

I get a little irritated with how the Amish are often presented; I grew up around Mennonites and they're lovely people. Really simple and kind and helpful. It was nice to see a little of that reflected.

The supposed canon romances just seem really fake and forced. I mean, in what alternate reality would Harry actually date Ginny for crying out loud? It's absolute insanity - I think I cried when I read The Kiss in HBP. The H/G hints were also far too obvious and forced. It was like JKR was thinking "I've been meaning to write H/G for years but s**t, I haven't left a single clue in the past 5 books for the readers to follow, I'll just start flinging in jealously and chest monsters and hope they buy it"

I do agree with this, as much as I don't ship much of anything in the books (I mainly just like Dan and Emma, lol. I think they're cute). That's WHY I don't ship anything in the books, and why I get irritated that she puts H/Hr shippers down when I don't feel she gives good alternatives. It's not the fault of the readers who aren't impressed with canon couples. I have no interest in the R/Hr and H/G portions of the book. H/G were flat out ridiculous; he barely noticed she was alive for five years and suddenly after a random thing about her scent and some random bulls*** about jealousy over Dean she's his One True Love without ONE realistic reason for why he'd feel this way? There is no indication Ginny sees the real boy behind "The Boy Who Lived", that he can talk to her or that he trusts her the way he does Ron and Hermione. Hell, the girl's gotten progressively more irritating and bitchy with each book. I could name more than a dozen instances where she's been bitchy, judgmental, and rude without just cause. There is not one reason I can see why Harry would fall for her. To say he deserves more would be an understatement.

I just think it's unfair of her to essentially mock non canon fans when I think she's HORRIBLE at writing canon and gives particularly the people who read the books primarily for her main character, as I do, no decent alternative. It's not my fault she sucks at romance. I want Harry to have someone I feel truly understands him and would stand by his side no matter what, not a flat out bitch who's never seemed to get past the image of who she thinks he is. I can see why SHE'D like HIM, although I've never seen her list those reasons as ones why she does like him. Which speaks. LOL. But I don't care about Ginny. I want legitimate reasons why he'd like her, and I've gotten none.

[oy_humbug]

From eonline:

Will Gilmore Girls Go On? Get the Inside Dish! By Kristin Veitch Ruh-roh. I've just chatted with inside sources connected to our beloved Gilmore Girls, and I gotta tell you, I'm a little concerned about what's happening over in Stars Hollow. 'Cause, well, the prospects of an eighth season are looking a wee bit grim. You may have heard TV Guide's report that Alexis Bledel (Rory) does not want to continue Gilmore Girls and that the CW is moving forward with the idea of doing the show without her. Well, according to my sources—who are highly placed within the Gilmore family—the plan of a Roryless eighth season has been firmly rejected for one very good reason: Lauren Graham is sticking by her onscreen daughter (you gotta love that) and has made it clear that she will not continue the show without Alexis on board. So...will we get another season? Lauren and Alexis are making the decision as a team. If they both decide to partake in an eighth season, we'll get another year of Gilmore bliss. If not (and it kills me to even think it!), this will be the final year of the show we so adore. Still, don't start saying your goodbyes just yet. The show's rep at the CW insists the report that Alexis does not want to continue with the show is "really just a rumor...I've never heard that from Alexis' people or any reliable source close to the production." Plus, there's another reason to hold out hope: I'm also told CW president Dawn Ostroff isn't ready to let Lorelai and Rory go—and is prepared to do "whatever it takes" to turn the show around creatively and keep it around another year. So, maybe it'll work out. While I feel confident in my sources—they have never once steered me wrong before—I hope that in this case they're wrong. And, well, let's be honest. Money talks! And if it talks in a very rapid, witty and dramatic fashion, our Gilmore goddesses just might stick around.

From ew.com: (found this humorous)

Is it time to stop looking to primetime TV to break cool new tunes? The New York Times posted a cool piece today on how the music in The Office is decidedly un-hip, and why it couldn't be any other way. During the Christmas ep, Michael (Steve Carell, pictured) couldn't stop playing samples of a cheesy James Blunt song (on iTunes -- nice cross-promotional product placement there, NBC) in an effort to get over Carol. The choice was so perfectly lame for that man at that moment. Which got me thinking: What kind of music do you prefer to hear on TV -- random new artists or tongue-in-cheek throwbacks to the ghosts of yesterday's hits? There once was a time when I completely delighted in waiting for the end of an episode of The O.C. so I could see which masterfully selected indie tune would be plucked from semi-obscurity and shotgunned onto message boards everywhere so all the teens (and, ahem, adults) could immediately download them and then pretend they'd had them on their iPods for months. (Guilty.) In 2003, this tradition was considered my "livelihood," along with other cool activities such as insomnia, Spicy Chex Mix, and memorizing the repetivie trivia on eight different Music Choice channels (see: insomnia). But now I'm older, cooler, and have graduated to 99-cent sacks of Nutter Butters. I'm also less ecstatic about which new music gets showcased on TV. It's just not as big of a deal to me anymore -- the trend has become more of a commodity than anything else. The O.C. has released six different Mixes in CD form. And yeah, it's sometimes fun to Google a chunk of lyrics from the closing montages of Grey's Anatomy or Scrubs to see what the hell is playing. But by and large, I'd much rather gape at the utter hilarity of a karaoke jam to Pat Benatar's "We Belong" (The Office). And I'm generally much more impressed at eerie-fantastic time capsule choices like Cass Elliot's "Make Your Own Kind of Music" on the Season 2 premiere of Lost (for me, that was one of the most awesome song choices ever) than a cool new tune slapped over one of the CSI "Behold, Science at Work!" montages. What say you? What music on TV gets you the most hot and bothered?

Also from ew.com (for those of us who still watch GH):

"General Hospital" x "24" = ? Hmmmm. Last year EW asked General Hospital's head writer Bob Guza Jr. to tell us how he would write the hit show 24, and we had 24's producer give us his version of GH. Now, tomorrow's GH marks the first of 16 real-time episodes, just in time for February sweeps, and Jack Bauer is dealing with some serious family issues (maybe even a little baby mama drama?). Coincidence? Not over at GH. "I blame Entertainment Weekly for this whole nightmare we're in now," jokes Guza. Our little exercise got him thinking about a new way to build audience suspense on the soap opera well versed in high adventure but corralling the show's disparate storylines within real-time constraints just wasn't daunting enough for him. "It's that format but with a whole other wrinkle on top of it because we are, in fact, telling part of it backwards. We're going to start a day absolutely cold. The audience won't have a clue what they're looking at." The GH event will start with an out-of-the-blue explosion at the Metro Court Hotel in the Mob-riddled, fictional city of Port Charles, N.Y. (Some of you might remember that just a few years ago a fire burned down the hotel that stood there before, also during sweeps. Hotels and hospitals are great for endangering lives of prominent cast members, says Guza.) The show then resets to 16 hours before the explosion, and each one-hour episode will explain the events that led up to it, including a hostage crisis. And since this is sweeps period (and explosions and hostage-takings aren't enough) there's also the Jan. 30 return of GH veteran Kin Shriner (pictured) as the ex-husband of Laura Spencer, of the fabled Luke and Laura. Shriner will tie into an existing storyline related to Laura.

And finally, one last article from ew.com:

Sorry Situation With Isaiah Washington's apology, the Official Entertainment Remorse Machine has kicked in -- and nothing is solved By Mark Harris For a while, Isaiah Washington was actually going to get away with it. I'm talking about how things felt before the Official Entertainment Remorse Machine kicked in — the denial, then the half-baked small apology, then the more impressive, bigger, ''I'm scared'' apology (the one that goes, ''I have sinned, I must look deep inside myself and deal with my issues, I shall summon leaders of the offended community to meet with me'') with a side order of official corporate rebuke, presumably followed by regret-soaked on-air interviews and a group hug. For three months, all the evidence suggested that everyone — Washington, Grey's Anatomy creator Shonda Rhimes, Touchstone TV, and ABC — had decided it was no big deal for an actor to refer to a gay colleague as a ''******'' on the set and that if everyone just averted their eyes, the word would become a tiny speed bump that a show could bounce over without looking back. Forgive my skepticism, but I'm not a huge fan of apologies that come only after an evident threat to one's livelihood; I have difficulty believing that they spring spontaneously from a troubled soul. After all, it wasn't until Washington used the word again (during his ''denial'' at a press session after the Golden Globes), and two of his castmates called him on it, that a public outcry forced the issue. After Mel Gibson's Driving While Anti-Semitic bust, he was probably still looking for a post-mug-shot clean shirt when acts of contrition started flying out of his publicist's fax machine. And Michael Richards still had his own racist slurs ringing in his ears when he threw himself on the mercy of David Letterman. So why did it take a producer, a show, a network, and a corporation such an unconscionably long time to locate their sense of the right thing to do? If I sound grudging about Washington's apology, it's not because I don't believe him (I suppose time will tell if he's sincere). It's because now that he's started the Machine, everyone is reading from the same script, and we already know how this trite old plot plays out. Pop culture (and that includes all of us who are pop culture consumers) has become addicted to a cycle of misbehavior followed by regret followed by a warm wallow in forgiveness in which we agree to pretend that saying you're sorry undoes whatever was done. And anyone who isn't willing to play that game gets labeled a bad sport or a sore winner. So, at the risk of sounding uncharitable, let me hold off on accepting that apology for a moment. Considering that everyone in a position to do something about it was content to let the word ****** hang in the air all winter, I'm sure they'll indulge me if I mention a few regrets of my own. I'm sorry that the first time this happened, Shonda Rhimes, whose commitment to on-air diversity is evident (even if the evidence stops short of including an actual gay staffer at Seattle Grace), thought it was okay to write this off as a private affair rather than immediately let the many offended fans of her show know how hateful she thought that epithet was. I'm sorry that T.R. Knight, the target of Washington's slur who came out following the incident, didn't have the instant, unqualified, and loudly public (because that matters) support of every one of his colleagues. I'm sorry that the overall non-reaction to Washington's behavior helped to reinforce a perception that some quarters of the African-American community tolerate homophobia, a stereotype that is only going to divide us more unless both groups fight it at every turn. I'm sorry that it took ABC half the TV season to remind itself of its corporate responsibility. I'm sorry that not a single sponsor of Grey's Anatomy had the guts to speak up, even last week. I'm sorry that we in the gay community didn't make a lot more noise about this a lot sooner. I'm sorry that so many actors choose — and it is, whatever they tell themselves, a self-serving choice — to stay in the closet, since the more out actors there are, the less okay homophobia in entertainment becomes. I'm sorry that there aren't more gay characters on television: I don't want quotas or tokens, but I do think that shows like Grey's Anatomy and Lost and Heroes, which pride themselves on the variety of their ensembles, could expand their vision to better reflect their world, since series ranging from The Office to The Wire have shown that it's not so hard. Most of all, I'm sorry that the rerun ritual that Washington's apology invites us to watch is likely to obscure all this. Anyone who calls a colleague a ****** and manages not to get fired should count himself lucky. But Washington's use of the word didn't break anything that wasn't already broken, and his apology won't fix it any more than his dismissal. For all the progress that has been made fighting homophobia, and for all the ways in which the entertainment industry has led that fight, we clearly have miles to go. The problem is a lot bigger than Isaiah Washington, and the solution doesn't come gift-wrapped in the words ''I'm sorry.''

[Cristofle]

Why would Alexis and Lauren WANT to continue the show, lol? I don't watch it but hasn't it been its worst creative season ever? I'd leave before it gets worse.

[your_konstantine]

Gilmore Girls without Rory? That's a joke,right? How could they even suggest that? Would not that defeat the purpose of the whole show? As if it's not bad enough already...

I could not believe the ending of GA. I saw the Adele/Chief thing coming once I saw her face when he came to the door. But I would not have predicted Cristina/Burke and certainly not George and Callie at the same time! I remember reading about a wedding,and thought it would be George and Callie,but I wasn't expecting it all to happen at once. Loved the Addison/Alex scene. And loved Addison,Derek,Mark and Burke all fighting like children over the chief job. Best line of episode="Mark Sloane,chief of surgery. That made me vomit in my mouth a little bit." I love Addison. Cristina and Callie rock,also.

Oy.This title.Meh.