Veronica Mars - LoVe (Logan/Veroncia) #94 - He's there for her even when she doesn't love him enough. - Page 5

dorkydiva · 11-22-2006, 07:42 AM

"and as you are saying to yourself, crap he's right.." i LOVED Logan's speech. He is such a perfect boyfriend hehe..I'm mad at Veronica, but ever since these two kissed in WOCD I've wanted them together, but not right now. They really need to work on their issues before getting back together..mostly her. Veronica hasn't been ideal to me this season and that sucks. I hope that changes during the second half of the season.

LB21 · 11-22-2006, 07:58 AM

I just wanted to stop in and say that I voted and L/V is kicking Piz's butt! YAY!

Lisa

iCantBelieveItsNotButter · 11-22-2006, 08:29 AM

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... ever since these two kissed in WOCD I've wanted them together, but not right now. They really need to work on their issues before getting back together..mostly her. Veronica hasn't been ideal to me this season and that sucks. I hope that changes during the second half of the season.

ITA

**the echo fades** · 11-22-2006, 09:01 AM

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The last scene where Logan called Veronica literally broke my heart. Part of me almost wishes that JD wasn’t so good of an actor because maybe that scene would hurt so damn much…LOL. The look on his face and in his eyes, just tore me apart.

Jason just completely sold that scene. It's amazing how in one scene he can be totally larger than life, crazy hand gestures and snark, and then a scene like this where he can make himself look so small and fragile. He almost looked like a little lost child and it was just perfect. Even just down to the way he kept his phone to his ear even after she'd hung up.

That boy needs a good cuddle.

LB21 · 11-22-2006, 10:32 AM

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That boy needs a good cuddle.

I agree comepletely! I'll take one for them team on that one!

You know the chick that does the TV Guid commentary for VM said that look was going to haunt her all week. I couldn't agree more. I can't get it out of my head.

Lisa

**afrocurl** · 11-22-2006, 12:51 PM

Logan does need a good cuddle, and I'm feeling bad for him right now, but I have to say that I was elated to hear that Veronica admitted to loving Logan (even if she didn't say I love you.)

LB21 · 11-22-2006, 12:55 PM

You and me both Roz. I literally held my breath waiting for her response.

Lisa

**the echo fades** · 11-22-2006, 01:07 PM

Veronica admitting she loved him was a big thing for her. I don't understand some people who think her "yeah" wasn't enough. That was huge for her, of course she has issues so she's not just going to just flat out say it. It'll take her time but she's getting there

but we now officially know that.. SHE LOVES HIM!!!!!! so it's all good

PhillyFan24 · 11-22-2006, 01:22 PM

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Veronica admitting she loved him was a big thing for her. I don't understand some people who think her "yeah" wasn't enough. That was huge for her, of course she has issues so she's not just going to just flat out say it. It'll take her time but she's getting there

but we now officially know that.. SHE LOVES HIM!!!!!! so it's all good

While I would have liked more than a "yeah" from a fan perspective, I agree that it was definitely enough from a character perspective. Obviously Logan thought it was enough, otherwise he wouldn't have asked that they take it easier on one another. To be honest, I think it scares her that she actually admitted it, although I think she's felt it for a while.

Bonnie

GenL · 11-22-2006, 01:30 PM

I always thought that RT was wasting a perfect opportunity to make LoVe more of a team. We've seen how well they work together a few times in the past, why not have them working together all the time? That way we can have some snark as Logan helps with cases (towards other people, not Veronica) but without fighting. Also, LoVe can be sarcastic with each other without being mean or fighting. My husband and I are very sarcastic at times- it's just fun!

I just get so frustrated with all these shows because they always say that we as audiences really don't want the couples together, that we prefer the leading up to it. And, that is somewhat true. But the reason I don't like it when the couple finally get together (not just on VM, but other shows too) is that the writing always ends up sucking once they get together. But- it doesn't have to.

The only example I can think of is (don't laugh too hard) Hart to Hart. Okay- hold off a minute before you pee your pants in laughter- or hurl things at me. That was a couple that was written smart (they had a lot of one liners- although hokey ones by todays standards), they worked well together and they really loved each other. Plus, they solved mysteries. For those of you who don't know what I am talking about- Hart to Hart was a show from the 80's about a married couple who were PI's. Yes, it was hokey and would never work today- but I just mean the main concept- happy couple solving crimes together. I could totally see that being Logan & Veronica. And- I am totally showing my age.

I would just love for once a couple get together and stay happy- showing that it can be done.

As for this last episode- JD killed me in the last scene. I think Veronica just was overwhelmed with all the ILY's and stuff, so she was avoiding Logan for a little while. But- of course he's hurt by that and probably even thinking she was lying when she said she loved him. I was actually happy earlier after the fight, because they both seemed to realize that they handled the situation badly before- but that they ultimately loved each other (although Logan seemed to realize he was wrong more than Veronica). Even though Veronica still looked miserable when she hugged Logan, I just took that to mean she was upset her guard was so down. But, with the dodged phone call I just don't take that to be a good sign. Veronica is afraid to care too much, so I think she is going to run from it instead of embrace it and realize that she and Logan are a team in this relationship.

**afrocurl** · 11-22-2006, 01:37 PM

I sort of wanted Veronica to say ILY, but I'll take what I can get right now.

I mean, things were better between them at her admission, and then she just blew him off. I seriously hope there's a good reason for why she did that, or else that entire scene will just kill me in retrospect.

Ania R. · 11-22-2006, 03:31 PM

It totally broke my heart to see Logan tell her that he loves her and her not really knowing what to say. I wonder what she would have said if he hadn't asked her if she loved him... "Yeah" was disappointing on the one hand, but on the other it's Veronica and we all know she has serious issues with that kind of stuff. Plus they're obviously not OK and I feel so bad for Logan. He really is perfect now!!

rowanlove · 11-22-2006, 03:41 PM

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It totally broke my heart to see Logan tell her that he loves her and her not really knowing what to say. I wonder what she would have said if he hadn't asked her if she loved him... "Yeah" was disappointing on the one hand, but on the other it's Veronica and we all know she has serious issues with that kind of stuff. Plus they're obviously not OK and I feel so bad for Logan. He really is perfect now!!

Don't forget, even when Duncan was running off to Australia and he told Veronica that he loved her, she didn't automatically say 'Yeah or Me too', etc. If she was going to placate someone, you'd think she would have told Duncan she loved him before he disappeared from her life, but she didn't, because acknowledging that she loves someone means something to her. Yeah, she did love Duncan, but I don't think she was in love with him in S2 and she didn't want to give him the wrong impression. I absolutely have no doubt that Veronica wouldn't have said 'Yeah' when Logan asked if she loved him, if she didn't truly love him. Given how hard it is for her to say, I can absolutely see 'You know I love you too' or anything along those lines just not being something Veronica can say when point on the spot. I see her working up to it, before she lets herself be fully vulnerable enough to just say, 'I love you' or 'I'm in love with you.'

iCantBelieveItsNotButter · 11-22-2006, 03:43 PM

maybe that's problem... maybe Logan is too perfect now..?
not that any of this is Logan's fault, because it isn't...but I'm just throwing ideas out there

breath we drew · 11-22-2006, 03:46 PM

V hasn't said ILY to anyone accept for Keith and well the two times I saw accept for last night has been when she thought his life was in jeopardy. Ends on season 1 and 2... When he walked through fire to save her, then after she realized he was alive in season 2. I just hope that V will eventually be able to learn to open up more.