[pinkpaisley]

All I have to say is how amazing it is to me that Scott was only supposed to be on the show for 1 episode, and he ended up being the #3 most important person (#2, if you ask me) on the show! Thank God for Amy and Dan and fate!

Agreed 100%!

[lancer1993]

Originally Posted by Elissa5 (View Post) What I had just posted last night was news to me. While I had heard that Amy saw chemistry between Scott and Lauren from the first episode, she still had it in mind until Daniel changed her mind that Lorelai would end up with Chris. That is why they picked David Sutcliffe for the role, because he was Lauren's ex-boyfriend who she still had great chemistry with. Scott was originally only supposed to be in the pilot episode, but they mad him a regular when Amy saw the rapport that Scott and Lauren had. Scott always credits Amy for that, not Daniel. But then Daniel told her told her that Lorelai should end up with Luke. I must admit that in the 1st season until the end, I saw them ending Lorelai up with Chris. I was never a Chris hater, but I LOVED Luke from the start, and how could you not want him to end up with the girl he loved so much? That was clear from the start. So I was so relieved and pleasantly surprised by the end of Season 1 and into 2 when they were realizing the L&L possibilities. When L&L stood under the chuppah, I knew the writers saw that they were meant to be. As for posting the info elsewhere, that is fine, but I just want to say that while I totally see these theories to be true, I did not, however, come up with them. Also, of course, in any future movie/miniseries or whatever shape we get more GG in, I think it is understood that L&L would remain together. All I have to say is how amazing it is to me that Scott was only supposed to be on the show for 1 episode, and he ended up being the #3 most important person (#2, if you ask me) on the show! Thank God for Amy and Dan and fate!

Thanks again

I only hated Chris, truly hating him at the end of S6, what he (or they) did was low even for Chris.

I didn't watch the show from the start and only caught up on the first 3-4 season after falling for L&L so it's hard for me to see them with any one else.

I'm glade Scott was give a chance and ended up being so important to the show, I don't know what would have happened if Chris ended up being the love of her life. What would have been the point of Lorelai running away all those years ago? I guess we found that out in S7.

[Elissa5]

Originally Posted by lancer1993 (View Post) Thanks again I don't know what would have happened if Chris ended up being the love of her life. What would have been the point of Lorelai running away all those years ago? I guess we found that out in S7.

Amen to that!

[lancer1993]

Amen!

All I'm saying the whole plot of the show would have changed, thanks god DS didn't want to sign for a more permanent role in the early season!

But this is the SP news thread so do we know how much more they have to shoot of the 13 eps they have (do they have 13 eps?) and if Scott has any thing apart from SAW5 limed up after?

[Joannathe1]

Originally Posted by Pasadora (View Post) for Mr. P. and thanks Elissa for that theory. It really does make a lot of sense.. and one's for sure, I wouldn't have become such a GG fan if the show was about L/C. It was just nothing special and I don't know why but I never liked Christopher and I was always so pissed when he came back.

I just wanted to chime in... I know it's SP thread but, I was on my way earlier today and didn't have the time to post.

I so agree with Pasadora. I would not have become a big fan of GG if there was a L/C forever coupling. I never liked the Christopher character from the start either. I think he and Lorelai is too much alike, there wasn't much of the opposite to make me think much of them together, watching C is like watching Lorelai. I wonder how Amy would have wrote his character to make him likeable as father after the way she wrote him in earlier season. I mean in S6-7 there was nothing redemable about him. She give him a **** load of money and that was all there was. If he had come back when his daughter was in trouble and needed him and helped his daughter then before GF died and leave him money.

It didn't make sense the way he came back, because it looked like if he didn't inherit the money he wouldn't have come back.

JMHO.

I am glad that they didn't go L/C way for long becuase "I" for one loved, loved the L/L paring. Only one other tv parting touch me that much.

[Brilliant Disguise]

because he was Lauren's ex-boyfriend who she still had great chemistry with.

Excuse me? Am I reading this right...

[crazyboutscott]

Es I thought the same thing.. I never knew she dated David.

[MouthyMeghan]

Elissa5 -- may I ask where are you getting your information from? Most of this is news to me. I know that Daniel pointed out the chemistry between LG and SP in Kiss and Tell after they walked out of Doose's market, but the rest is most definitely news. I didn't even think Lauren Graham knew David Sutcliffe before Gilmore Girls. Also, if Amy had plans for something with Lorelai and Christopher, why was Christopher only in one episode in season 1?

Curious.

Actually, I just read an interview where David Sutcliffe said himself that the role was described to him first as just a one episode gig. There was only a possibility it may become recurring. He also said that they didn't know the kind of chemistry LG and DS would have together until the cast met and they had some scenes together etc. So it doesn't sound like he knew LG before GG even started.

[BarkMyer]

Originally Posted by crazyboutscott (View Post) Es I thought the same thing.. I never knew she dated David.

LG told Ausiello that she and DS had had "dinner" - emphasis on the dinner, in a suggestive manner.

[crazyboutscott]

I thought that dinner was recently. The way I read what Elizza said I took it as they dated before GG even aired??

[Looney6]

Amy originally intended Lorelai and Christopher to be the central couple

Those stories floating around about chemistry changing how Chris would be used and probably the L/L pairing is just showrunner spin. They needed to make their narrative seem more "off the cuff". The textural evidence all the way back to the beginning and especially written into the arc of TDDR and CR is that Chris was in fact NOT the one. He would just be the proverbial stick in the wheels because of an unhealthy attachment on Lorelai's part. They actually mucked everything up this season in terms of what Amy had set up. The parallel between Luke & Chris as fathers would have been fleshed out better and how all of this related back to L/R/E and the 16 yr estrangement would have been addressed too. YMMV

ETA

Wasn't Sutcliffe married for a good portion of GG's run? Also, Lauren said herself that she was in an on again/off again long term relationship for most of the show. When would she have time to date DS around this relationship, MP and MB and her 15 hr work days?

[MouthyMeghan]

I'm pretty sure that it was Ausiello that made the dinner sound suggestive. He loves to rile the fans up and he did it all the time with the LG/SP/DS drama. We never heard how Lauren really pronounced the word since the interview was in print.

She clearly said that she and DS were friends, but she wasn't giving DS an advantage in the show because of that.

And, yes, she said in an interview recently she had just ended a lengthy relationship with someone.

[lancer1993]

Originally Posted by crazyboutscott (View Post) I thought that dinner was recently. The way I read what Elizza said I took it as they dated before GG even aired??

I thought this also and yes he was married, was Lauren the other woman

Didn't DS not want to be locked into a full time roll? Maybe we need to thank him as he might have been part of the reason it wasn't the C&L show before S7?

MA does like to rile the fans and having the David & Lauren dating thing in the mists of the C&L thing on-screen only fueled rumors that LG had something to do with the S7 SL, we may never know the whole truth.

So any news on Scott and AiA? I won't get to see the 2nd ep for a few more days. Sometimes it's a pain not living in the US, then I see the news a 14yo is caught about to shoot up another school and thank god I don't! long live the internet!

[Elissa5]

I cannot say who my source is. This person told me I can relay the info but would prefer to remain anonymous. This person has worked in the TV and theater industry and knows unbelievable amounts of information about many many shows, not just GG. But this person is a HUGE GG fan.

I was told that Lauren dated David before GG and helped get him the part. David was married to another actress from 2001 to 2003. I have no idea if she was the "other" woman. I was also told she had also dated Chris Eigmann, who was also married while on GG, and got him that role too. The LG/CE dating was news to me. The LG/DS is not news. I've heard that from other sources too. People knew they had dated but didn't know when. Someone else told me that LG dated DS after she dated Matthew Perry (if she really dated him). I don't know for sure who she definitely did date or did not date. I'm sorry, I should not have implied it was definite knowledge that she dated DS. It is just my assumption and what I've heard from other sources.

I asked my source their opinion about whether or not LG and SP dated and this was the answer given:

It's my impression that Graham dated both Eigemann and Sutcliffe *before* they were on Gg, or, in the case of Sutcliffe, perhaps early in Gg's history.

Regarding Patterson, it's been conjecture for some time that Graham and Patterson dated. I don't think that it's an unreasonable theory as there's some evidence that Graham has had Julia Roberts Syndrome (ie: the tendency to date one's co-stars) since at least as early as her live theater days in college.

FTR regarding the dating questions, Eigemann has been connected to Graham (via imdb IIRC) and Sutcliffe is strongly implied in the more reliable parts of the rumor mill, but rumors about her and Patterson are much less reliable, IMO.

I do, however, think it's plausible that Graham and Patterson are strongly attracted to each other but at the same time drive each other crazy with their contrasting work processes, which is why IMO their chemistry works so well.

If they had seriously dated, I think their chemistry would have fallen apart.

Also, let people know that it's not uncommon for actors in the same production to date. It's not particular to acting, it's the same "an intense workplace is the only place that people have any opportunity to find a date" thing that happens with other time-intensive professions such as medicine and the legal system.

I've witnessed so many behind-the-scenes melodramas, even if nothing happened romantically between LG and SP, it's simply not a far-fetched theory by any stretch of the imagination.


BACK TO MY THOUGHTS - I never heard that Chris was only supposed to be in 1 episode. It wouldn't make sense to me that they would only have him in 1 episode the very 1st season and not again, especially with his being Rory's father. I heard Dan and Amy talk about Chris in a commentary I think it was for one of the DVDs but maybe it was in a interview. They talked about how they wanted someone who they could always bring back and leave people with the impression that he could possibly be the one for Lorelai.

[pinkpaisley]

I do, however, think it's plausible that Graham and Patterson are strongly attracted to each other but at the same time drive each other crazy with their contrasting work processes, which is why IMO their chemistry works so well.

I always thought that was true,

Let's not get too far off topic. Discussing Lauren's dating habits is for another board.