[lulu1960]

Oh you know that Gary's been on the ole computer looking at racks and I'm not talking shoe racks.

Maybe Green Bay Packer Cheerleaders.

[lancer1993]

Originally Posted by lulu1960 (View Post) Oh you know that Gary's been on the ole computer looking at racks and I'm not talking shoe racks. Maybe Green Bay Packer Cheerleaders.

Maybe Franny had a uniform?

[Elissa5]

For sure, Gary was looking at rack sites on the computer!

[pinkpaisley]

Originally Posted by lancer1993 (View Post) Maybe Franny had a uniform?

I am sure that's how they fell in love. Wasn't Franny the popular one in high school, maybe even a cheerleader, and he was a jock. And then he knocked her up.

[Folie]

Originally Posted by pinkpaisley (View Post) I am sure that's how they fell in love. Wasn't Franny the popular one in high school, maybe even a cheerleader, and he was a jock. And then he knocked her up.

When did we hear that Franny was popular?
I mean I'm assuming she wasn't UNpopular seeing as she and Gary dated and Gary was a jock. But have we really gotten anything specific on the show that would indicate that?

[lulu1960]

Originally Posted by Folie (View Post) When did we hear that Franny was popular? I mean I'm assuming she wasn't UNpopular seeing as she and Gary dated and Gary was a jock. But have we really gotten anything specific on the show that would indicate that?

I think we think that becausde of the way she was talking to Claire when Claire was going to break up with Jeffrey because she was establishing her popularity and Franny was agreeing like she may have acted similar back in the day.

[crazyboutscott]

I'm not sure about Franny's popularity but I am sure that Gary looked very guilty when they were taking the family computer. I also think he look proud when Justin said what he was looking at. Like Father, like son!!

[Elissa5]

Was it said that what age they were when Frannie got knocked up? Were she and Gary were still in high school? I did not think they were in high school when they got pregnant and married. Claire could only be somewhere in between 16-18 years old, therefore, as good as Scott looks, I am not sure they are assuming he is at most 36 years old!

[lulu1960]

Since Justin is a Junior and is the eldest he's 16 or 17 years old and if they had to get married because she was pregnant they're been married around 17 ot 18 years.

So I would think they may have dated though high school but I agree I don't think she got pregnant then. In the flashback they looked like they were supposed to be in their 20's.

Yes they are pushing the envelop with Scott's age but Amy is I believe 38 or so, so it works for her.

[SPA]

I agree with Lulu; early 20s is probably what their ages were when Justin was conceived.

Thank goodness Scott doesn't look his age. I mean, can anyone say that he truly looks like he's 50?? The man is timeless, isn't he??

[Elissa5]

I thought Claire was older than Justin. Hmm. You learn something new everyday!

Maybe Gary and Frannie knew each other when they were growing up but he was still a few years older than her. He could have been friends with an older brother of hers or something like that.

[pinkpaisley]

I thought Claire was older than Justin. Hmm. You learn something new everyday!

She sure does look older.

I saw Dan Byrd in Lonely Hearts with John Travolta. He did a great job there, even though he had a very small part.

[SPA]

I wonder what kind of clothes the Franny wants to change Gary into.

I, of course, have a different suit in mind for him

[KbatMO]

Originally Posted by lulu1960 (View Post) [...] So I would think they may have dated though high school but I agree I don't think she got pregnant then. In the flashback they looked like they were supposed to be in their 20's. Yes they are pushing the envelop with Scott's age but Amy is I believe 38 or so, so it works for her.

In the pilot, I thought Claire was the younger one ... but then I thought I had it confused! Maybe not just me... In my mind's eye ... in the Gary and Franny flashback with the preg. test (+++) ... I see a school bathroom. Will have to check. My impression was that they did a "Lorelai" - sorta - Franny got "knocked up" at an early age - 17 or 18? Age 21 max - if they went to college together, that is. Clearly got married 'cause of pregnancy. Which means they're pushing the envelope on Scott and Amy's ages ... and I don't care!! I love this show and the two of them in it! Franny and Gary look really cute together!!!

Since there are millions of sites with "racks" (+ other special areas!), Gary couldn't possibly visit the same one as his son, but it was apparent he's visited similar ones when he freaked about his computer being confiscated by the police. I thought that whole sequence was hysterical ... made points about boys, men, the stuff all men do (and don't tell their wives) - with or without the net ... and they still made their point about privacy. They presented the male issues explicitly, humorously, and gently ... not in bad taste IMHO. (And all the while, spoofed Raja as a terrorist threat.) As for Gary ... I heard each episode is standalone so he may not get busted by Franny (no pun intended!) - but if he does, look out!!!!! Her character is a "piece of work!"

I've seen fantastic critical reviews all over the place. (Googled "Aliens in America".) LA Times, NY Times, .... National Public Radio NPR : National Public Radio : News & Analysis, World, US, Music & Arts - has done 4 separate pieces about the show since Oct. 1 and published a 5th piece - an essay on AIA by a prominent Muslim American anti-discrimination activist on their website, which was very positive. There have been academic seminars. Media pundits/critics and Muslim-Americans are praising the show. It's been likened to "All in the Family" as far as groundbreaking. Even if it was pre-emptive vs. writers' strike, ordering the 3 more scripts is a very positive sign. It greatly increases the likelihood of a full first season. The ratings aren't great, and they lose some Everybody Loves Chris viewers, but as far as street cred the CW would be toast if they didn't give this show a chance. It's gotten way too much serious, good press.

I also question the time slot, SPA. Esp. vs. Dancing with the Stars, sad to say. The good(-ish) news: Since Monday nights are historically football nights, I've nicknamed CBS line-up "misogynist Mondays." I don't think those sitcoms are funny even if they're popular --> Aliens is an opportunity for smarter and/or less testosterone-laden viewers to relax and watch a quick, funny, smart show. My questioning of the time slot is that the other 3 CW sitcoms that "bookend" Aliens are aimed primarily at their African American audiences. If they're not familiar with the show, people initially see a mostly white family (very!) in Wisconsin.

I heard they're going to start publishing adjusted ratings (for all TV shows) that include DVR recordings. The major networks have started to insist upon it - because their ratings aren't so hot, either. Haven't searched yet, but that could make Aliens ratings look brighter. I hope!

Music news - "What's so funny about peace love and understanding" is supposed to be avail. on i-tunes, as well as a full album by the writer/performers just out this week - called "American Scream." I like the full song.

Next week Metamorphosis (1.04), Franny's going to dress up Gary! I'm assuming that's the hysterical make-up SP referred to in his interview, but I'm not sure. In 1.05 (I think), alas poor Gary's supposed to lose his job. I mention it because I think it might be our best chance of seeing unshaven Scott for the rest of the year! I miss scruffy Scott!!!!!

Lastly, I wonder if this means Scott's going to be in Vancouver beyond the end of October to tape those 3 add'l eps. Anybody heard anything?

[lancer1993]

KbatMO thanks for all that, I was hoping Gary would play a bigger part, maybe this is where he starts his own business?