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Old 05-11-2008, 08:02 PM
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The show has been largely apart the father/son dynamic and all of that, and I think losing it wouldn't make sense... but idk.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:15 PM
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Imo Dan wont die until Lucas admits his father is the source of his insecurites that prevented him from waiting for Peyton after she said "Someday"
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:17 PM
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You really think that's going to happen?
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:22 PM
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You really think that's going to happen?
I think it should happen but sadly I can't see Mark thinking that Lucas insecurities stem from Dan. I know that my dad ad securities for me I dont know how it wouldn't for Lucas
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:23 PM
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I think it makes sense but I just don't see it happening.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:39 PM
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Yeah how great would the story be though. Peyton reasuring Lucas that he's not Dan. But last weeks episode Lucas was sure acting like Dan for a minute though. It scared me as a Lucas fan Its like he forgot that he has the same heart defect


OT: Nik do you have "thinking over" by Dana Glover?
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:42 PM
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I think Lucas has the right to be bitter and cold towards Dan... but it felt weird seeing him act that way.

Nope, I don't have it.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:54 PM
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aww its ok

Yeah I think its ok for Lucas to be cold and bitter towards Dan but not like that though. I think if Peyton can forgive Ian for what he tried to do to Peyton Lucas will have to one day forgive Dan not for Dan but for his own sake because dude will go bat **** crazy if he does not let Dan go comepletely.

Am I the only one annoyed that Nathan is acting more like the older brother then Lucas right now Nathan realizes that he loves Dan but he refuses to let him in between his family, while Lucas is only stuck being bitter. Imagine Peyton staying bitter or scared of Ian? She probably would never let herself be happy with Lucas.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:54 PM
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That's all I really want right now is Lucas to finally admit this whole year was based around his insecurities. I really think the "someday" brought out all his old insecurities. The Luke from S4 would have kept his promise to wait for Peyton, but he let his insecurities get the best of him.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:56 PM
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I think its different for Nathan... he grew up with Dan, he was his father. Lucas didn't have that relationship with him.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:58 PM
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I think its different for Nathan... he grew up with Dan, he was his father. Lucas didn't have that relationship with him.
I know and a part of me think thats why Nathan does not take Haley for granted, but Lucas is sort of doing that with Peyton. He grew up with Karen telling him he deserves this and that. Hes a good kid while Dan is pressuring Nathan and telling him when he sucks or what ever
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:59 PM
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Hmm, I never really thought of that, but it makes sense to me
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:08 PM
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Its like all Nathans life he had Dan who told him you're not good enough and using him to recreate his dream and Deb left Nathan with Dan remember Deb new how horrible Dan was being to Nathan too.

Lucas grew up with Karen who is probably the only sain parent in TH and Keith who would have been ana amazing father to Lilly like he was to Lucas. Lucas insecurities really was "does Dan love me enough" Whats so good about Nathan?" "Why does he not want me?" Nathan is the first to tell you Dan's not the best father in the world IMO Lucas got lucky LOL
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:10 PM
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I guess its just the whole "grass is always greener" thing... but I do think Lucas got the better end of the deal, cause he had Keith.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:13 PM
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Yeah how great would the story be though. Peyton reasuring Lucas that he's not Dan. But last weeks episode Lucas was sure acting like Dan for a minute though. It scared me as a Lucas fan Its like he forgot that he has the same heart defect


OT: Nik do you have "thinking over" by Dana Glover?
Me too I got so scared seeing how heartless Lucas could be when he was refering to Dan, then I got chills, Im really afraid of the way hes going to behave and the tone of his voice to Peyton tomorrow
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