CristalBuddy

mjgchick

thanks for the new thread

CristalBuddy

No problem

Now back to this:
About this story:
Today It is Quiet, an One Tree Hill fanfic - FanFiction.Net



Call me strange, but I actually...enjoyed reading the suicidal Sawyer one Enjoyed is the wrong word but I could see the logic perfectly clear in that story. Sawyer felt completely alone and desperate for release.

In Today is Quiet, it's as you said Jerome - that's just Peyton being selfish and weak. Then again, I've never suffered from PTSD so I shouldn't make rash comments like that either. The part that got to me was what she asked of Lucas the first time and he agreed. He resisted for a second and then just gave in. Then she asks him to do it for her Lucas would not be capable of pulling the trigger. But that just may be me.

Bringing up Shakespeare in this case is spot on. I feel like this story was a twisted version of one his tragedies. The writer has their strengths, but I don't think this type of story fits LP.

It may be insensitive for me to say this, but I just feel like Peyton having such intense PTSD and being suicidal after the PsychoDerek attack seems a little dramatic to me, especially if Lucas saved her before anything drastic happened.

hilarie.love

IA.

I also wish they would've gone into more depth after the PD attack for Peyton - and even Luke. They did a good job in 4.06, but I wish they showed us more. I guess it's just all left open to interpretation cause no way can someone get over that in a few days. It wasn't even just some random creep, but someone she thought was her brother and let into her life as such.

Even in 4.17 I wish it was Luke who came back for several reasons. 1) I didn't really like using that as some type of way to reunite BP. It was lame and felt forced - B needed to go out of her way imo and not just reconcile over something they didn't really have a choice over. 2) I would've loved too see Luke's reaction to that cause we got nothing which I thought was ridic. That would've been SOOOO interesting to watch imo and I would've loved to see where the writers would've taken that had Luke been the one to find her.

Also, I'm really liking that S3ish fic that was posted in the last thread. Those are always my fav and there aren't enough written imo.

AngelCutie

Thanks for the new thread

CristalBuddy

YW guys

Which one, did I miss adding something to the OP?

fredothechimp

I just had a hard time seeing mini Peyton so damaged. Peyton's line at the end owned me, it was so heart breaking .

It's just a selfish thing for Peyton to ask, she knows by asking him to do it she's damning his life emotionally and physically. Her actions were in all respects killing Lucas. Even when Peyton's pain was at it's worst in S2 she didn't turn to suicide, and I don't think she could leave Lucas with that gilt or any of her friends and family with that burden.

Lucas would have never pulled the trigger. It goes against his whole complex of saving her.

I appreciate the good writing, but I'm somewhat irked when people impose a whole different dynamic on characters, removing them so far from their personalities. At times it feels like people use Angst/Tragedy/Hurt for it's shock factor to compensate for developing a story.

That's another thing, if Peyton's pain were due to things happening as they did on the show then I can't understand it at all. Even if more were to have happened I can't see it. I guess thats how OOC both Peyton and Lucas felt in that story.

By removing that reaction and completely moving past it they made that second attack useless as a storyline . I kind of felt that way with the whole latter part of S4 though. After 4.14 it was always a mad rush to complete the season (Series), considering they were unsure of it's renewal.

I think they designed that whole second attack just for BP, lame considering the amazing scene Peyton and Brooke had in 4.15 it could have been so much more if they had executed it better.


Brooke: "So you said we were never friends. Never meant anything to you. (throws against the house the cup Peyton gave her) Fine! You want to see something else? Here is the picture of you and Lucas on my birthday! (throws the picture against Peyton) Who's the whore now?"
(Peyton gets closer and they starts fighting)

Brooke: (still fighting) "Just let it go! I'm the one with no boyfriend at prom, just a black eye! You are going to prom with the guy you love, so you win! (shouts) You win! (Peyton starts walking away) Why do you even care anymore?"

Peyton: "Why do I care? Brooke, this has been one of the worst years of my life... and I needed my best friend more than ever... and you cut me out because I was honest with you... and you were never ever honest with me."

Brooke: "Peyton..."

Peyton: "You made fun of my mom's death Brooke... you knew her, you cried with me when she died... and now you use her as a punch line for a joke to hurt me... it hurt. It did... but not anymore because you and me we're done... you're right she's dead... and as far as I'm concerned so are you."

An Update. A long, beautiful update: You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory Chapter 14, an One Tree Hill fanfic - FanFiction.Net

Part two of this as well, It's Still You, an One Tree Hill fanfic - FanFiction.Net I don't know why she posted it in a new story, but whatever.

CristalBuddy

If anything, Peyton has always shut down and tried to deal with things on her own so it's even more of a head-scratcher that she'd even tell Lucas about her intentions. Actually, if Peyton was ever suicidal Lucas would be the first and foremost to keep it a secret from. He would be on guard 24/7, not even sleeping a wink knowing how far gone she is just to keep her holding on. But this story just turned Luke into a coward and unrecognizable as the guy we've come to know.

The boy can't live without her.

Then, if Peyton couldn't do it herself, wouldn't that just send up flags that she really doesn't want this? Just a thought...
In that case I could see Lucas telling her, "You want this, not me. I can't and won't."

Still can't see him pulling the trigger

Some stories are just over the top with drama that I feel like I'm watching a really bad soap.

Can I just say, on the topic of 4.15&16...that I'm really glad Peyton kicked her ass? I was so PO'ed that Brooke went there to hurt Peyton.


Do you mean this one? For Now, For Later: Part Two, an One Tree Hill fanfic - FanFiction.Net

She may not know how to upload new chapters. But I feel like part one was much stronger. Part two isn't anything I haven't seen or read before. Its just a rehash of 3.16, which to be honest I'm getting really bored with in fanfics. Unless it completely changes the course of what happens in the shooting then I'd rather not read it

And You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory How could Kate leave it like that?! I can't believe Lucas just came out and said ILY so soon, I did not see that coming, but for the record lol. The story is so heartbreakingly beautiful though. Kate's got the angst/tragedy/hurt/comfort tone down to a pat. Peyton's determination to be there for Izzie and the appearance of the "Memory Box" Then Lucas' reaction and frantic helplessness really pulled at my heartstrings. Kate wrote that really well! Hopefully Peyton makes it through

fredothechimp

I think the more we look at it, the more we find it impossible. It's impossible to see Lucas even considering such a situation, but then I can't even get myself into the mindset where Peyton would go as far as ending her life. It was easy to be so angry with the character when she asked Lucas to do it. Ughh.

Don't know why? All the drama and sadness without a purpose just doesn't appeal imo. Wasteland should be a blueprint for heavy drama .

God Yes! Brooke so deserved it. The things she said were so awful. At times I wonder why I have an easier time forgiving Brooke in S4 then with Haley in S5.

Yeah the whole chapter was a bit of a re-hash of the school shooting. It's seemingly been a common occurrence as of late.

I think Lucas had been feeling it for a long time though in the story. Kate always dos an excellent job of embracing both of them. They'll have their reluctance and doubts, but you always see that affection and the strength they bring out in each other even during the worst times.

CristalBuddy

Really? I'm the other way around


I'm sure he's felt it, but I just didn't expect him to come out and say ILY like that. It was really sweet though, perfect moment to drop that admission (at least for me).

Kate is really great at that. When she betas for me she gives suggestions to add here and there to make more of an emotional impact in my chapters. If you ever need some suggestions on strengthening the angst in your work, I'm sure she wouldn't mind helping you out there Jerome

AngelCutie

Updated
Hazy Chapter 14, an One Tree Hill fanfic - FanFiction.Net

fredothechimp

Good update . I've always had an affinity towards her writing. Loved "Just a Summer Thing". I'm curious to what she means by the whole NP "relationship" playing a part throughout the story.

CristalBuddy

I seem to have forgotten what Hazy was about That's been happening with a lot of fics lately

I do want an update for All That You Can't Leave Behind, though

fredothechimp

I think you mentioned it like a week or so ago on the last update . It's the one where Peyton is a record label producer/band manager and Lucas is like a freelance reporter for I think Rolling Stone doing an article on her. They fall into a relationship, so on, and so on.

Are you hinting something Ambour's way? I want an update too, I think she said it was close to an end?

I found the "jist" of this somewhat humorous. You're Majesty, an One Tree Hill fanfic - FanFiction.Net "King Lucas III. Husband to Queen Peyton. Ruler of England, France, and Ireland… was in love. In love for what felt like the first time… to his wife’s Lady in waiting. total AU! Brucas, some Pucas, Naley, Some Jaley. possibly mature in later chapters.

I think the author is missing the fact that Henry VIII in fact didn't 'love' his other "wives" (Considering two were beheaded .), only marrying them and making them queen to obtain a valid male heir (Ironic that his daughter grew into the image of one of the most iconic rulers in their nations history.). I love the "Pucas" knock though .

CristalBuddy

Did I? MAN I have a horrible memory!

What? No. I would never pressure someone.

(Yes.)


I am honestly so amused by the time and effort some people go into trashing characters and ships. Coming up with names like 'Pucas' & 'Seyton', don't people have something better to do other than worrying about something they hate? Talk about bitter people

You know...I've actually always been a sucker for Victorian-esque stories. I remember reading a really well-written Piper and Leo one (aw, my Charmed days!) way back when. How ironic is it that I was a Piper/Leo shipper back then and I'm an LPer now. LPs all around Though I think Piper/Leo are the equivalent to NH in OTH fandom. Point is, I wouldn't mind an LP (friendly) fic in this type of situation.