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Old 11-18-2016, 01:23 AM
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i still like BP because they both made mistakes but I did get really angry with Brooke a lot of times.
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Old 11-18-2016, 01:24 AM
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^ Same here. I prefer Laley over Breyton though.
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Old 12-03-2016, 10:10 PM
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Out of the core 5, who do you think was the most selfish?
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Old 12-04-2016, 05:40 PM
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Brooke 100%. At least in the early seasons. Or Nathan from time to time.

In the later seasons I hate to say it but probably Lucas.

IMO Peyton was pretty selfless and so was Haley. It seemed they always tried to please other people. With the exception of Haley going on her tour.
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Old 12-04-2016, 05:43 PM
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Yeah agreed, seen people call Peyton the most selfish. Lucas was definitely way more selfish than Peyton ever was.

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Im so opposite to you guys i always thought peyton was the selfish one mroe than brooke but now i do see brooke did have her bad times .. now i see Lucas was the worst
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Old 12-05-2016, 04:56 PM
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Brooke and at times Nathan was pretty selfish in the high school seasons IMO and Lucas was in the adult seasons from what I saw. Some people disregard BN's selfshness because they developed as characters.
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Old 12-06-2016, 07:56 AM
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I didn't like NH in season 2, I didn't like how they were handled.
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Brooke 100%. At least in the early seasons. Or Nathan from time to time.

In the later seasons I hate to say it but probably Lucas.

IMO Peyton was pretty selfless and so was Haley. It seemed they always tried to please other people. With the exception of Haley going on her tour.
I have to agree, I like Brooke don't get me wrong, but in the early seasons she was for sure the most selfish. I grew to like Brooke a lot more later on but at first she was not my favorite at all. I thought Peyton was pretty selfless, same with Haley most of the time.
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Old 12-07-2016, 10:05 PM
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^ Yeah agreed, she was selfless in the adult years but she was pretty selfish in the high school years, which is why I can't call her the most selfless character like some other people do.
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I have to agree, I like Brooke don't get me wrong, but in the early seasons she was for sure the most selfish. I grew to like Brooke a lot more later on but at first she was not my favorite at all. I thought Peyton was pretty selfless, same with Haley most of the time.
Yer i loved brooke so thags why i didn't see thag side before
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Yeah that's true, but I saw the selfish side of Lucas and he's my favourite male character.
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Old 12-08-2016, 07:38 AM
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Peyton and Brooke were both at times selfish.
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All characters had their selfish moments (Haley arguably the least, partly because Mark liked to use her as a prop more than any other main character, so she barely ever got to do anything for herself), but Brooke’s brand of selfishness was by far the most irritating for me. Especially given s2+ the writers liked to pretend she’s a saint (e.g. she says she wants to run for a class president so that people would think more highly of her and this is presented as an admirable rather than terrible mindset). s2 and 5 are particularly grating on the St. Brooke front. Her “poor little rich girl with a heart of gold” sl is so terribly written and annoying. However, s3 is even worse for me because she is so excessively selfish but nobody is ever calling her out on anything.

On an unrelated note, one of my biggest pet peeves about the show in general is how bad the dialogue is. I cringe 90% of the time the characters open their mouths. The humor is mostly dumb and not funny. The serious lines are mostly cheesy, preachy and shallow. And it's all worded so badly quite frequently too.
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:01 PM
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^ Yeah agreed.
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