Degrassi - Spepper[T/M]#64: Because Manny likes Toby's glasses, too.

Mayberry · 10-16-2008, 07:34 PM

Welcome to the 64th Toby Isaacs & Manny Santos Appreciation Thread!

Decorating lockers, or meeting at lockers, we love them. For six years, Toby Isaacs and Manny Santos have been great friends-- wise counselors, shoulders to lean on, understanding. Well, we believe it's time for something more and that these two ultimately deserve each other. Our Locker Buddies, whether friends or lovers, deserve a shot, even though it is a long shot. The cheerleader and the gamer geek defy social circles because they truly care for one another, and we hope romance is in store for them.

1. Because they give the best advice at Degrassi.
2. Because like J.T., Toby couldn't stop staring at Manny's thong.
3. Because it's a longshot, but we like longshots.
4. Because sometimes friends make the best lovers.
5. Because she comforted him after Rick's death.
6. Because Emma wanted Toby to like Manny instead of her.
7. Because Toby banged his elbow to get a kiss from her.
8. Because he would treat her right.
9. Because she went to Rick's funeral with him.
10. Because they've been friends since season one, it's time for more.
11. Because she needs a good guy.
12. Because Manny told Toby to stop acting weird.
13. Because she tried to warn him about Kendra's locker.
14. Because he got jealous when J.T. was measuring Manny.
15. Because they're both mature.
16. Because J.T. got a chance, why shouldn't Toby?
17. Because he'd appreciate her for more than what she looks like
18. Because it's unexpected
19. Because she thinks he's a sweet guy.
20. Because he wouldn't let her go.
21. Because he cheered when she won Prom Queen.
22. Because DTV likes Tobanny, too.
23. Because he likes her, even in that weird prom dress.
24. Because they both follow their heart.
25. Because she wouldn't have to chase after him.
26. Because she was on his list, but now she's on top.
27. Because Manny thinks he seems kinda cool.
28. Because computers and science totally go together.
29. Because Toby didn't like her checking out those Lakehurst guys.
30. Because Manny's science grades probably improved thanks to Toby.
31. Because no matter what she does, he probably won't think badly of her.
32. Because he's dependable.
33. Because he was interested in finding out who she would date (mini!)
34. Because whenever he's hurt, she's around.
35. Because he's never made her cry.
36. Because she helped him with his robot costume.
37. Because they're open and honest with each other.
38. Because they're both close to the coolest teacher ever, Mr. Simpson.
39. Because they both taught Holly J a lesson in being nice.
40. Because they're usually involved in the most dramatic storylines.
41. Because both of them like to make out at parties.
42. Because she would help you with your homework, and then Toby would make sure nothing bad happens while it's typed in the computer.

#1 Because a kiss on the elbow got us talking!
#2 Because she's on the top of his list.
#3 Because they'll complete the fluffy fluff collection together.
#4 Because Toby needs a storyline
#5: because they both follow their heart
#6: Because a little salt and pepper form the perfect combination
#7: Because she's saving the last dance for him
#8: Because Toby's going to use his camera to film their lockerroom lovin'.
#9: Because he'd fall for her and never come back!
#10. Because there are more than ten reasons why we love them.
#11: Because a little hanky panky never hurt anybody.
#12. Because she's always there in his time of need.
#13: Because the pillow talk would be more than worth it
#14: Because they are both daydream believers
#15: Because Toby and Manny share a special locker of love.
# 16: Because she wants to hunt in his pants
#17. Because Bubbe's car has plenty of room in the back for....
#18: Because they match in more ways than one
#19: Because he can always get a kiss from her!
#20. Because in 20 years, they'll still be some hardcore Spepper lovin' going on.
#21: Because a dash of Spepper always spices things up!
#22: Because Manny likes when Toby eats out (hell yeah)!
#23: Because "someone's in love"
#24: Because when the lights go out, everything heats up.
#25: Because even Jay ships them. Or he would if he knew about them.
#26. Because he may want Paige to call him, but Manny's got his number
#27: Because the MI lab is now the Manny Issacs lab! Yeah.
#28. Because Toby dreams of Manny on a beach in California.
#29. Because season seven has Spepper written all over it.
#30. Because because after 30 threads, they're Speptacularly cuckoo bananas!
#31. Because just wait for their promo! This season's big surprise!
#32. Because they will stick together throughout all this HS drama.
#33. Because the best ship is friendSHIP.
#34. Because a Spepper wedding would cause no controversy whatsoever.
#35. Because you might regret you let the geek in pink slip away.
#36. Because NO one messes with Toby Isaacs, except Manny.
#37: Spepper will have their own little private 'talent showcase'
#38: Because a zombiefied Toby would never harm Manny!
#39. Because everything Spepper does is networthy.
#40: Because after 40 years, they'll celebrate unifying Degrassi by unifying.
#41. Because Toby knows when Manny's REAL birthday is
#42. Because he's the hot scandal in her A&E biography.
#43. Because every Thanksgiving dinner needs salt and pepper.
#44. Because she adds the spice, and he adds the risk.
#45. Because they have their own holiday, including fireplaces.
#46. Because Manny wants herself some eight magical nights of Toby!
#47. Because Manny will be Toby's oh so sexy scientist.
#48. Because 2008 is the year of Ted and Marie.
#49. Because a Spepper mini? Bring It On.
#50. Because 50 years later, they'll still be on a magical ride
#51. Because they'd make perfect puppy parents.
#52. Because Toby Jr.'s gonna be FAMOUS!
#53. Vote Spep! Even if it does actually make your vote irrelevant.
#54. Because they always keep it classy.
#55. Because Toby would never hide from Manny.
#56. Because they are Degrassi's very own Mouth and Brooke.
#57. Because he doesn't have to ask her; she's just there.
#58. Because they won UC Couple Survivor!
#59. Because computers and science work well together.
#60. Because in sixty years, it will be Toby...and then the BFF.

Because she still owes him one last dance...

Episodes: Cabaret - Careless Whisper - Back in Black - Islands in the Stream - West End Girls - What It Feels Like To Be A Ghost - The Bitterest Pill
Reminders: lockers - hunters - hot tubs - kisses on the elbows - prom

Spepper Fan Fiction:
The spell is broken... - As Yet Untitled Spepper Fic
I Want to Save You
Cherish
Someone to Watch Over Me

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Spepper Minis
Locker Buddies - Comfort
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Cuckoo Bananas - Quantity v. Quality
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Prom
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Manny likes to pet Toby....

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Supporter Q&A

What is your favorite Spepper moment?

As mentioned earlier, it's when she comforted Toby after the school shooting. The empathy she showed for him during that time characterizes why I love the Fab Four so much. No matter how much they may have drifted apart over the years, you know that when they need them most, they'll be there for them. It may take a little while, and some convincing from another Fab Four member, but ultimately, they are there for them in the end. That type of bond is something we all look for from friends, and even family. It's not something all of us are able to realize, though. --JustMe2000

My favorite Spepper moment is when Manny comforts Toby when he's worried about Rick's visitation. When his best friend couldn't step up, she stuck up for Toby and attended the visitation with him, despite not really being involved in the shooting storyline. She was truly loyal, and it's probably one of the best thing Manny's done on the show. --Mayberry

My favorite moment would have to be manny comforting toby after rick died, it was just really sweet that she was there for him when his other friends weren't. --xxCrashIntoMexx

Manny going to Rick's visitation with Toby AND sticking up for him against JT in the same episode. It was really sweet, because while he own best friend wouldn't talk to him, SHE was there.She didn't judge him for being Rick's friend, and was there by his side when he most needed it. --lalatina15

My favorite Spepper moment would have to be Manny comforting and helping Toby after the shooting. She was there for him when no else was, and that's all you can ask for from a friend. Manny's loyalty and friendship with Toby shone through and really showed us that she honestly will always be there for Toby, even if she isn't always around him. He needed her, and that was it.
ish78

Why do you like Spepper friendship?

Again, it goes back to the core element of the Fab Four, but in this specific pairing, perhaps because on the show they are so often the side kick in their main best friend relationship, there's an underdog quality to these two that makes it so easy to latch onto them. --JustMe2000

I like Spepper friendship because the two understand one another, or make it a point to understand the other. Toby is open to and respects Manny's opinions, and Manny appreciates that Toby's sweet and caring. Also, it's nice to have a fellow romantic around. --Mayberry

I like that they're both really loyal to each other, they get each other and they like each other for who they are. they respect each other more than anyone. --xxCrashIntoMexx

Manny said it herself... Toby's a "sweet, sweet guy". He sees beyond her stereotype of being promiscuous or whatever and just sees Manny- his good friend. --lalatina15

I like their friendship because it's reliable, sweet, loyal and always there. They've never really had much drama between them, and they've always gotten along...and that's extremely rare on Degrassi. I really feel like because of this lack of drama, they've appreciated the other a lot more for it and they've been able to support each other with their respective problems. They have one of the healthiest friendships on the show.
ish78

Why do you think they deserve a shot at romance?

I think they deserve a shot at romance, because they've both been disappointed with prior relationships, and Manny hasn't always been treated well by other guys. I believe Toby would do that for her, and Manny would put in the effort to make the relationship work since she's done it in the past. Plus they're adorable together. --Mayberry

I think they desearve a chance because they both seem to want the same things and they both desearve some happiness. --xxCrashIntoMe

Because they both deserve a chance at happiness. --lalatina15

because they have been through so much together and both Manny and Toby haven't had the best of luck with love. --Californian

I think they deserve a shot at romance, because they both really need each other. Manny needs someone stable in her life, and Toby just needs someone to love him...for him. --ish78

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Spepper Prom '07

Homecoming dance?

**lalatina15** · 10-16-2008, 07:43 PM

Who doesn't like a kid in glasses? C'mon!

**JustMe2000** · 10-16-2008, 08:05 PM

TPTB at Degrassi, apparently, given that they don't seem to ever want any of their "hotties" to wear glasses, even if the actor playing them wears them in real life.

BTW, hear that sound coming from a couple hundred miles or so to the north of where you are? A deafening silence....

**lalatina15** · 10-16-2008, 08:27 PM

Well, it's noisy again... just, there's still catch up to be done.

Paige wore glasses... once. So did Jay.

**JustMe2000** · 10-16-2008, 08:45 PM

And it's ......a little louder now.

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Yeah, I can't choose between Spin/Jane and Spin/Paige either.

I can.

Mayberry · 10-16-2008, 08:52 PM

What are ya'll talking about? I'm lost.

You brought that all the way over from the Hotseat....never mind.

**JustMe2000** · 10-16-2008, 08:58 PM

ALCS Game 5. Now all tied up.

And, I didn't want to clog up the HotSeat thread. See, I can be considerate.

Oh, and speaking of Paige, I just saw the first few minutes of that Rita Rocks show that Lauren was cast in before being replaced. It's got Ricky Ullman in it, too, playing a sort of stoner boyfriend of the character that Lauren would have played.

Mayberry · 10-16-2008, 09:21 PM

Replacing Lauren?

Boo.

**JustMe2000** · 10-16-2008, 09:30 PM

I think Lauren looked a little.....old........to be playing Nicole Sullivan's daughter.

Still, it would be nice to see her get a nice break which that role could have been.

And there will be a Game 6.....

Mayberry · 10-17-2008, 05:21 AM

Lauren always seems young to me.

Oh, well, at least there's Degrassi.

ish, have fun on your university trip!

**JustMe2000** · 10-17-2008, 11:19 AM

1989 the number another summer (get down)
Sound of the funky drummer
Music hittin' your heart cause I know you got sould
(Brothers and sisters, hey)
Listen if you're missin' y'all
Swingin' while I'm singin'
Givin' whatcha gettin'
Knowin' what I know
While the Black bands sweatin'
And the rhythm rhymes rollin'
Got to give us what we want
Gotta give us what we need
Our freedom of speech is freedom or death
We got to fight the powers that be
Lemme hear you say
Fight the power

Chorus

As the rhythm designed to bounce
What counts is that the rhymes
Designed to fill your mind
Now that you've realized the prides arrived
We got to pump the stuff to make us tough
from the heart
It's a start, a work of art
To revolutionize make a change nothin's strange
People, people we are the same
No we're not the same
Cause we don't know the game
What we need is awareness, we can't get careless
You say what is this?
My beloved lets get down to business
Mental self defensive fitness
(Yo) bum rush the show
You gotta go for what you know
Make everybody see, in order to fight the powers that be
Lemme hear you say...
Fight the Power

Chorus

Elvis was a hero to most
But he never meant **** to me you see
Straight up racist that sucker was
Simple and plain
Mother **** him and John Wayne
Cause I'm Black and I'm proud
I'm ready and hyped plus I'm amped
Most of my heroes don't appear on no stamps
Sample a look back you look and find
Nothing but rednecks for 400 years if you check
Don't worry be happy
Was a number one jam
Damn if I say it you can slap me right here
(Get it) lets get this party started right
Right on, c'mon
What we got to say
Power to the people no delay
To make everybody see
In order to fight the powers that be

(Fight the Power)

ish78 · 10-17-2008, 12:07 PM

^ New ep todaaay. Hope I can get The-Click to work...if not, I'll just watch my new DVDs and embrace the Spep in season six.

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ish, have fun on your university trip!

Aw! Thanks!

It was actually a lot of fun!

Now I'm definitely sure I'm going into biochem next year.

EDIT: So, after being at the spoiler thread, I feel like crying, because I can't watch anything on The-Click anymore...and pretty much everyone else can.

Mayberry · 10-17-2008, 12:20 PM

Glad you had fun. My first visit was to the local community college sometime in junior high. I knew I wasn't going there, not because it was a community college, but because I almost got left there on a field trip. Bad memories.

ish78 · 10-17-2008, 12:23 PM

AWW! That's so horrible...but so funny.

Argh. This is so frustrating. I want to go to spoiler thread to check on ep status updates...but I can't without getting spoiled! AH. The irony of the spoiler thread.

**JustMe2000** · 10-17-2008, 01:18 PM

I don't know if you've seen 803 yet, but there is a download available for that episode.