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Old 08-15-2010, 09:31 PM
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Episode 1017/1018 Discussion- Tears Dry on Their Own- Aug 16/17 (MuchMusic and TeenNick)

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1017- Tears Dry on Their Own (1) - Aug 16, 9:00 PM ET (MuchMusic and TeenNick)
-Jenna is determined to try out for the reality show The Next Teen Star...until the ultimate complication presents itself. Connor reconnects with his older online love. (MuchMusic)
-Jenna gets sick at her audition. (MSN)
-Jenna becomes ill on the day of her big audition. (TV Guide)
-Jenna is determined to try out for a realty show. (Zap2It)



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1018- Tears Dry on Their Own (2)- Aug 17, 9:00 PM ET (MuchMusic and TeenNick)
-Jenna faces the prospect of being a single teen parent and worries her dream of stardom is over before it has begun. Connor's online romance troubles only intensify with a face-to-face meeting. (MuchMusic)
-Jenna's biggest fear is realized; Dave and Wesley tell Mr. Simpson about Connor's girlfriend. (MSN)
-Jenna's biggest fear comes true, and she wonders how K.C. will respond. Elsewhere, word spreads about Connor's "girlfriend. (TV Guide)
-Jenna faces the prospect of being a teen parent. (Zap2It)
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Can't wait for these episodes!

Edit: That had to be one of the worst episodes I have seen this season.
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:43 PM
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LOVED it. Mostly for Riley. hehe

The Jenna plot isn't very interesting so far. I liked how they introduced that she has an older brother though. That was cool. I thought it was kind of weird that she wasn't more worried early on. Like if I thought I was pregnant I would be completely freaking out. But I can't wait to see KC's reaction tomorrow. And the whole parody of Adamo's show "The Next Star" was really funny.

But omg I love Riley! And finalllly Riley & Anya are hanging out again. They could be such good friends. And the scene when Riley just immediately says that the doctor is gay was so funny. I love seeing Riley so comfortable with himself even though it's only with Anya. This makes me reallly excited for his episodes later this week!

The Connor plot was okay. I'm glad to see that Connor is finally getting his own storyline and all. And I think this definitely makes sense for his character. I could totally see him meeting someone online like that.

Also I just have to say how great season 10 has been. I feel excited about Degrassi again. There was a while when I felt like I was growing out of it. But all of the sudden it has this new energy. It seems like they have hit their stride with this new generation. I'm really happy about that
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:36 PM
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I thought it was kind of weird that she wasn't more worried early on.
Well, as Alli said, "denial" isn't just a river...I think she was completely in denial, I can totally buy her acting the way she did. Didn't Jenna, at one point, describe herself as being the only girl in a family of brothers? Well, I was glad to see her brother, and hopefully he and their father factor into this plot at some point. The stupid TeenNick promo monkeys almost ruined what was probably the best scene in this plot- that last one with Alli and Jenna. Speaking of which, they may not have done enough to explain why they're together, but I do like them together and I'm enjoying their scenes. I'm really looking forward to the second part of this plot.

I'm also happy to see Connor finally get a plot and I have to agree that it does make some sense that he would reach out to someone online. And oh yeah, that woman is creepy as hell. Good job on that front, Degrassi. I was glad to see Dave and Wes e-mail Snake. The Chat Roulette parody was funny.

Glad to see Riley and Anya hanging out again, there's a shared almost dorky way of interacting with people that makes them a good fit. I wonder how long it's been in Degrassi time since the last episode, given that Anya's mother has only one week left of treatment? Then again, I don't really know much about that stuff.

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Old 08-16-2010, 07:38 PM
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The A-plot ended up just being really boring. I think the subplots would have been better if they weren't spread out so much. I really liked seeing Anya and Riley together again but I wished there was more. The scene at the hospital when Riley talks about his gaydar was adorable! I'm looking forward for more of them through out the week. Glad Connor's getting a part and I actually find it interesting because I think Three Tenner friendship is nice.

Back to the A-plot. Melinda's acting was better in the last scene than Jessica's and I don't think that was a good thing. I think a lot of the Jenna scenes fell a little flat because I wanted more of a reaction from her. Jessica's acting still bothers me. I feel like the whole Jenna/Alli friendship was just so she could have someone do the test with her. I guess it still just bothers me that they never even bothered to provide any set up for their friendship.

I'm tired of pregnancy plots on this show. Like it's been done, done, and done again and I think that also made this episode feel stale. I'm going to be honest and say Jenna and KC just came off as total morons in this case. There's no excuse for teen pregnancy in this day and age.
Jenna's "Sometimes" when Alli asked her if they were safe honestly just made me want to slap her. Maybe I'm just too old for irresponsible teenagers these days. But come on, isn't this the girl who went to the clinic with Alli? No excuse! There's the pill, the patch, lots of things Jenna could have gotten.

Anyway I think pregnancies are better left to 16 and Pregnant/Teen Mom.
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LOVED it. Mostly for Riley. hehe

Also I just have to say how great season 10 has been. I feel excited about Degrassi again. There was a while when I felt like I was growing out of it. But all of the sudden it has this new energy. It seems like they have hit their stride with this new generation. I'm really happy about that
Agreed. This season has been great, and it's renewed my excitement for the show.

With that said, onto the episode...

I didn't really care for the a-plot. I just don't feel invested enough in Jenna's character, I didn't really buy her friendship with Alli, yet another Degrassi character trying to become a star, etc. The pregnancy was obvious, and in the Degrassi realm, it feels a little overdone-- but maybe I'll change my mind about the plot in the second half when KC reacts.

I liked Connor's plot. While internet safety has been done before, I like that they're tackling the issue with a male character, and that the aggressor is female. I'm also happy to see Connor getting plots this season--I missed him during s9. I'm curious to see where things will go with this.

The Anya/Riley plot was cute, though it's lacking... something. I'm glad to see follow-up on their friendship, as I really liked these two together in 810 and 918. I also liked that Riley got to be there for Anya, showing that the friendship isn't one-sided. To me, this friendship feels more natural and genuine than Anya's friendships with HJ, Mia or Leia. Looking forward to more with these two.
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I believe this episode was very slow compared to the rest of the season. But here are my intakes...

Plot A: I don't know, it didn't seem really realistic to me, the whole "Jenna might be pregnant/ Pregnancy test is postive" scenes. I've had friends that have thought they were pregnant before, and they FREAKED out. Jenna was so calm the whole time in the beginning, and her reaction to the pregnancy test being positive "oh crap" was sooooooo dull and boring. She should've been having a heart attack, crying and ranting about how stupid she was and how her whole life is going down the toilet. That's what I'd expected, because that's what someone in her posistion in RL would have done. I'm hoping that tomorrow with KC's reaction will be more dramatic and redeeming.

Plot B: Connor's online 'friend' is just a plain creeper. She's like fourty years old and she's wasting her time playing Degrassi's version of WOW and hanging out with fifteen year old boys. Connor's ignorance in this is a little troubling, and I dont think he really knows what he's getting into. I think it was the right thing for his friends to tell Mr. Simpson. Something tells me he's going to sneak out to see this crazy lady again. I really want to see how this turns out.

Plot C: Riley and Anya becoming friends again and hanging out was adorable in my eyes. Anya really needs a consistant friend right now that can help her keep her hopes up, and I think Riley is the perfect guy for that. Plus, every girl should have a gay best friend . And Riley's comment about his gaydar really made me laugh. It was perfect for that moment in my opinion.




Overall, this episode was kind of dull, with a couple good moments. Hopefully tomorrow's episode will be better. Though I'm really just counting down the moments for wednesday and thursday episodes with Eli and Clare<3
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First day with no leaks! But between twitpics Stefan Brogren has tweeted and giveaways in the commercial promos, I still feel like I've been spoiled. Maybe that's why the A-plot wasn't that surprising or "go there." But I'm enjoying Jenna's denial. It reminds me of girls I went to high school with who even went so far as to try to hide their pregnancy. I can't remember exactly how far along they would get before finally their mom would figure out something was up. I also like that we get to see how she's afraid to tell KC, unsure of what his reaction would be. Judging from previous episodes where it's shown how she's insecure and afraid he's going to leave her, I think her hesitancy to tell him is understandable. I'm not sure if I'm 100% into another pregnancy plot but it might be nice to see a girl carry the baby to term.

I buy into the Jenna/Alli friendship. Actually more so than the Clare/Alli one, although I did enjoy how they would balance each other out with Clare being the good girl and Alli more of the risk taker. I think that Jenna and Alli would have more common interests and be able to relate to each other better.

I don't like how Zane is giving Riley the cold shoulder until he comes out; don't appreciate that pressure that all. But at least I was amused by how Riley explains that "I didn't get that joke anyway." Clueless Riley is adorable. So is the Anya/Riley friendship. It tugged at my heart strings to hear Riley tell her that he doesn't really belong anywhere. I'm glad he's able to find a little peace with Anya.

As for Connor's plot, I'm starting to buy into people's arguments/frustration that his secret gaming girlfriend should be someone his own age. The lady is kind of creepy but there's this part of me that understands why he wants to be with someone who understands him. He doesn't feel that with his peers and I think that ties in nicely with his Aspergers and what we know of his character. It will be interesting to see how this storyline plays out.

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I wonder how long it's been in Degrassi time since the last episode, given that Anya's mother has only one week left of treatment? Then again, I don't really know much about that stuff.
This was my biggest question about the episode too. As soon as she said, that I thought, "Whoa, a lot of time must have passed." This site says most treatments take 6-8 weeks. I still kinda wish her mom would have to go through chemo instead of or in conjunction with radiation. It hits you a lot harder when you see someone go through that and I'm afraid this storyline will be forgotten quickly if she's suddenly all better.

The Jenna pregnancy plot was underwhelming because it's been done on Degrassi so many times. I hate to say that I feel desensitized to the subject, but it's true. I guess maybe this will be the first time we'll get to see a character carry a pregnancy to term and keep the baby? (Assuming she goes that route.) So far we've had abortion, morning after pill, adoption, and a teenage mother whose pregnancy we never saw. So if Jenna keeps the baby, that'll be new. I guess. And maybe she'll have her life made out for her if she wins the reality show and has a musical career? Kinda like how Mia found fame and fortune with her sudden modeling career. Teenage moms can solve all their problems as long as they have a special talent! I hope Degrassi will surprise me and make this pregnancy storyline actually realistic and compelling, but we're not off to a good start.

The Connor plot really freaked me out because I could totally see him wanting to hang out with his new friend and obviously we can't trust her. I kind of loved when Snake showed up to whisk him away. Snake's still got it sometimes. Good for Dave and Wesley thinking ahead like that, too. I also enjoyed the spoof of Chat Roulette. Jeez, does Degrassi monitor or care about the websites that their students are using? You'd think a school would block all these social networking and gaming websites to cut down on potential issues arising.

And I'm with you Nicole, DNW Zane pushing Riley out of the closet. It sucks that Riley is friends with homophobic losers like Owen but his life won't be perfect and wonderful if he comes out before he's ready. I understand Zane's frustration but he just... isn't helping.

I wonder if the format of these episodes would be slightly improved if the C-plots lasted only one episode instead of 2. More characters would get more exposure that way and so far none of the C-plots have felt like they really needed to be stretched out across both parts of the episodes.

Even though this was arguably the weakest episode yet, season 10 is shaping up to be my favorite season ever. Degrassi is the only TV show I've honestly grown up with and I'm so glad I never gave up on it. This season feels like a return to the charm and intense drama that caused me to fall in love with this show in the first place.
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I didn't really like/care about the Jenna storyline at all. Like others have said, it really brings nothing new to Degrassi. Not to mention, it wasn't even a surprise. It's been speculated to death, Stefan leaked it with pictures, the PSA came out, the actors & character twitters have been giving away hints... it all makes me think that they did this huge build up to a completely average storyline because Jenna has so many haters, and they wanted to ease people into the storyline or something. But really, not using protection? I was shuddering at their stupidity. It's really annoying, and kind of hard to believe, when Degrassi has brought people in before showing the kids how to use condoms, so it's not like they're not getting sex-ed...
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Oh and I agree, the most interesting thing about that plot was her older brother.

I'm easing into the Connor storyline. I was looking forward to it at first, then disappointed, because I was hoping he'd meet a girl his age and attractive, or whatever. But I guess Degrassi wants to preach a bit about the dangers of online interactions. But part of me still worries that there is this stereotype with girls (or guys) who play games, like they're unattractive losers or something... or that people online are old and creepy. But I'm likely just being sensitive. Also, I was very surprised that the writers knew that expansion packs come out for MMOs. It was a good way to have them meet up. Dave was really annoying in this episode, and I'm starting to like him less and less. I was kind of interested in him at first, but I like Connor and Westley too and I don't really like how he treats them.
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I'm still enjoying Anya's plot! I liked the tie in with Riley too, it felt very natural. They make good friends. It'll be interesting to see where the doctor thing goes, lol. And with Zane/Riley... I think he's being WAY too hard on him. Also, that joke was utterly stupid, so I don't blame Riley for not really understanding it.

And finally, weird things in this episode: Why did Alli get detention for sneaking pregnancy books out of the library? What, they don't allow students to take out books there anymore? And like Christine said - what was with Connor being able to game, use a webcam, and go on a chat roulette rip off on the school computers? Get a firewall, Degrassi... although, I guess it's all allowed since Simpson walked in and gave the OK once he realized Connor did his chores!
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Okay, im saurpriswed I didn't hate this episode, but there were still many things that irked me.

A Plot - Jenna wasn't so bad in this episode. I WILL say I found her song kinda catchy lol I hated all her scenes with Ali, it just biothers me still that they're friends without any inkling before that they would be and without any closure for the Clare/Ali friendship apprantly evaporating. iI felt bad about how in denial Jenna was the whole time, and I do sympthize with her character, BUT im sorry if she thinks she is repsonsible enouigh to have sex, then be responsible enough to be protected. I couldn't believe that when Ali asked her about always being safe she didn't say yes, i was kind of like WELL, its kinda yours and your bf's fault then, isn't it? I did'nt care overly about all the audition stuff, I thought it was sweet that KC did show up in the end. Anyways im interested to see where it all goes!

B Plot - Im intrigued by Connors Plot. Im still really disturbed by this women. I couldn't believe she asked him back to her house, I mean hes 15! Its so gross and ick. I hope Connor gets out of it before its too late. Wesley and Dave totally have it right and im glad they took measures in protecting Connor. Im sure Connor must feel lonely, but I mean come on, you're gifted and NOT stupid. I just hope it dosen't turn out bad.

C Plot - I really like Anya's and Riley's friendship. Riley can be his full self with Anya, which is nice. I thought it was sweet of him to go with her to the doctors and such and the whole argument about the doctor being gay or not gay was funny. Riley is kinda dumb though, like does he honestly expect Zane to be like, okay yeah lets hang out again after what happened? I do hope things work out between them because I LOVE ziley!

The thing that still bothers me the most, like I said is Jenna and Ali. I hate it, and it makes no sense. haha
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I would like to bring up (from another forum) that std's are never brought up anymore except for humor. The only consequence ever shown on television is getting pregnant! It's not like std's disappeared. Though it's probably because with std's only the person having sex feels the consequences, with a teenage pregnancy a lot more people feel the consequences not to mention the new baby does too. Still though, it should be more prevalent on television.

If anyone wants to read more material on it, here's a good recap too 'Degrassi: The Boiling Point' Recap: Tears Dry On Their Own, Part One | Ology
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But part of me still worries that there is this stereotype with girls (or guys) who play games, like they're unattractive losers or something... or that people online are old and creepy. But I'm likely just being sensitive.
No... I agree with you completely. It's really stereotypical. I ended up rewatching the episode on MTV this morning (I can't help myself, the HD airings are just so pretty compared to TeenNick's crap VHS-quality) and another thought occurred to me... what are the odds that this woman also happened to live in the Toronto area? It seems really unlikely. The plot might have been made more interesting if they traveled long distances to meet up, but I also guess they wouldn't have bothered if that were the case.

Tonight's episode will be the 8th in a row that features Dave, Wesley, and Connor together in a B- or C-plot. It might be time to let some other Degrassi characters have their moment.

And I wanted to say that I think the Jenna/Alli friendship makes sense. Alli was friends with both Jenna and KC before they started dating. Clare has moved on and I don't think Alli should have to pick sides. I think she's still friends with Clare; they just aren't spending as much time together. Alli is really focused on being popular and Jenna is popular, but she's also sort of the outcast among the cheerleaders. So their friendship seems pretty natural to me. Ideally I would love to see Clare, Alli, and Jenna all be friends again, but I doubt it'll happen.
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A-Plot--very predictable b/c of all the promo's Muchmusic and TeenNick kept showing everyday It's pretty reckless and stupid of Kenna to have unprotected sex repeatedly. Has Jenna forgotten what Alli went through during her HPV scare? Also Jenna kissing KC after getting her gold ticket?? Locking lips with somebody that just puked is so gross. Jenna's reaction to finding out she's pregnant--I view it as she is shocked and numb to the revelation. I wasn't expecting her to cry with anguish or happiness.

It was so wonderful seeing Anya and Riley in a scene together. I love that Riley can be at ease without worrying if other people suspect if he's gay or not. I laughed when they wondered if the doctor was gay or not

Connor and Lovequeen are kinda disturbing, especially the part where she suggested he come over to her place to play the game. The upcoming previews of them doesn't look very good
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I would like to bring up (from another forum) that std's are never brought up anymore except for humor. The only consequence ever shown on television is getting pregnant! It's not like std's disappeared. Though it's probably because with std's only the person having sex feels the consequences, with a teenage pregnancy a lot more people feel the consequences not to mention the new baby does too. Still though, it should be more prevalent on television.

If anyone wants to read more material on it, here's a good recap too 'Degrassi: The Boiling Point' Recap: Tears Dry On Their Own, Part One | Ology
I was just thinking about that today. They haven't had an STD in a while.

Would be liking it if they did an arc on gay people receiving an STD, however.
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