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I think that if Holly J and Sav aren't getting much screen time and any real development now that it isn't going to happen either in 2011 or in Season 11 because I think that they will be upstaged by some other younger, opposites attracts couple even if it isn't Fiona/Adam and Eli and Clare and that it won't matter as much for Holly J because the writers and the powers that be will put her on-screen with other characters and other storylines, It's hard to take Sav seriously on any level for me because the writers don't care enough about him to develop him and this is after over three years on the show. I don't think I will ever understand why he's still on the show from a writer's prospective and the actor's prospective because there are characters who just arrived this season who've been given more to do than he has in over three years.
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I hope we don't have to see them in season 11. They shoved Jane, Danny, Peter and the rest of the most recent seniors out the door very quickly. However, they probably will decide to keep them around longer. If they do, I truly hope they don't show HJ denying herself life to stay with Sav. Because as a grown woman, that's exactly what she will be doing. She's basically chaining herself to a tree in the middle of the forest. That's not something she would have ever done before.
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I also think that Sav had it worse than it just being about things falling apart during senior year because he was never really developed or given much of a personality or anything constructive to do and all being with Holly J does is reinforce everything that is wrong with him and also what a pointless character he is which is disappointing because there were opportunities to develop his character outside of being someone's boyfriend but it was never really explored and instead just dropped and dropped quickly and by the time that this was done it was too late for most people to want to get invested in his character and storylines especially after seeing how the seniors are normally on the back burner regardless of who they are and how popular they are with viewers. __________________
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I also think that Sav had it worse than it just being about things falling apart during senior year because he was never really developed or given much of a personality or anything constructive to do and all being with Holly J does is reinforce everything that is wrong with him and also what a pointless character he is which is disappointing because there were opportunities to develop his character outside of being someone's boyfriend but it was never really explored and instead just dropped and dropped quickly and by the time that this was done it was too late for most people to want to get invested in his character and storylines especially after seeing how the seniors are normally on the back burner regardless of who they are and how popular they are with viewers. __________________
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I think that Holly J and Sav would be a little easier to deal with if Holly J actually had to deal with any real consequences from her actions. I never got the impression that Holly J actually felt guilty about having slept with Declan because after "Love Lockdown" Sav goes M.I.A. until "Halo" and Holly J is still on screen a lot without him and Sav seemed to be completely out of sight completely out of mind for Holly J. She also spread a rumor about Sav and Anya expecting a baby and she never thought about Sav's feelings. All she was concerned about was the fact that he was in the way of her being student council president and in the she still got what she wanted because she's still the one doing all the work for student council and I often forget that she's not student council president anymore and taking student council away from her wouldn't affect her negatively it would be Sav who would be left with nothing to do in my opinion not Holly J.
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I think the main reason I can't stand this pairing is because it's so obvious they're not on the same page. Their feelings aren't mutual. HJ only agrees to matters in the relationship after Sav does. If they actually cared about each other, maybe I wouldn't find their status so annoying and unnecessary. They can do without each other and I don't understand what's romantic about that.
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Exactly. It's so obvious she still has strong feelings for Declan, but she is just afraid right now of possibly getting hurt again, so she's holding onto Sav. Which still doesn't make much sense if you think about it because Sav is known hurting girls he dates.
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Okay, I have genuinely tried to like this pairing. I really have. But I just don't understand the point of it. I mean, really, what were the writers thinking when they threw this mess together?
First of all, I mean, it's clear to me that with Savvy J, they're trying to pull another Spinner/Emma thing, you know? In order to wrap up their time on the show with a nice little bow, they're going to put these two characters together, who've barely interacted before this season, to give them a "happy ending", because they both apparently need someone to be endgame with. I mean, it's obviously not as ridiculous as Spinner/Emma. Savvy J have been together for the majority of the season and it's not like they got married in Vegas after a drunken night of partying. But still, it's so freakin' random. They have absolutely nothing in common with each other beside the fact that they're both in student council. So, is that all they talk about when they're together? Not to mention the thing that annoys me the most, which is that it's completely unrealistic to have Sav hook up with the girl who played a hand in manipulating him into thinking he's a teen dad just so she could win the school election. I mean, it's not even like she apologized. I don't know about anyone else, but I would never date someone after that. Sav is clearly there to simply be an accessory to Holly J's character. They haven't even given Sav any issues of his own since I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself. Even in the plot coming up with him and Alli, it's obvious that it's just another storyline that's going to focus on another character instead of him (aka Alli). I mean, I think Sav's a nice guy, but that's really all his character's got going for him. Holly J is ten times as three-dimensional, and really, I hate that she's getting screen time only when she's with Sav now. The whole thing bothers me. I mean, both of them are living in this la-la fantasy world where they have zero problems. The only issues in this relationship were Declan in the beginning, who Holly J seemed to get over a little too quickly in my opinion, and the whole Jenna thing, but it was obvious from the beginning that Jenna didn't even have a chance with Sav, so...I didn't really consider it conflict. At least the other couples on the show this season (even if I don't like most of them) had serious problems in their relationships and it hasn't been smooth sailing with them. I feel like with Sav/Holly J...the whole thing is just too simple. I mean, it's obvious where their whole storyline is going to end up. They'll angst for a little at the end of next season's Boiling Point about whether or not they should stay together, because "like, OMG, I totally wasn't expecting to actually fall for you and want a serious relationship, but now I do and I want to continue this mess of a relationship into college", and then they'll decide to stay together and the whole thing will probably end in some ridiculously cheesy, Hollywood movie, "inspirational" kiss scene. Unless they both come to their senses, surprise us all, and actually do what they said they were going to do and break up after graduation. But I think that's too much to hope for at this point. I just feel like this is one of those couples that Degrassi is famous for, where they randomly pick two people and shove them together. I usually don't believe in joining Anti threads, but I have to make an exception this time. Last edited by Kwinks; 01-13-2011 at 11:20 AM |
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I think that a real problem is the fact that Sav is given the worst dialogue and he isn't helped by the fact that Holly J has been given actual storylines and character development over the last three years and Sav has been given next to nothing to do in those same three years. Holly J can and does do circles around Sav and he really has the same problems that Anya has not surprisingly in that Sav never really got much of a chance to explore life on his own and to actually do things that he is actually interested in and no one ever told him to "Get A Life Outside Of The One With Anya" like she was told by both Jane and Holly J ironically in "Wanna Be Starting Something." I don't think that these two have much to actually talk about because there are no real problems in their relationship especially in comparison to the other current relationships and they have nothing in common and let's be honest Sav's not interested in being president of student council, he only ran because his parents thought it would help him on his college/university applications. Even in the student council storyline it's really all about Holly J and Sav just looks completely awkward and completely in over his head and so I don't see how that makes him look good or gives him something constructive to do. __________________
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In my opinion Sav is bringing Holly J down but, in reality he would bring anyone he was dating down because Sav was never important enough to the writers and the powers that be to actually give anything constructive to do or say and by the time it started to happen this season it was too little, too late. The the writers and the powers that be made it so obvious that they were concerned about and wanted to give their time and energy to the younger kids and when Sav was one of the younger kids it was never really about him and instead about others around him and so I thought that it would be a hard sell to say the least to make anything about him now because even if it was I don't think it would be something that would be sincerely invested in by the writers and the powers that be and let's be honest they have never hidden that fact. I can't support a ship where it's all about one person all the time and the other person is just written like a complete after thought. __________________
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Same thing with Anya. It's obvious that the doctor she's hooking up with is going to be this relationship Sue with no personality. He's good-looking, successful...and that's it. The only purpose he's going to serve is to be her boyfriend. The only thing that's going to be interesting about it is the fact that he's so much older than her. I mean, even her mom's cancer is going to be pushed to the side in favor of this Mr. O/Paige rehash. Quote:
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