Degrassi - The Hedonists [Anti Sav/Holly J.] #5: Because "I'm newly single. The weight of the world is lifted off my shoulders."-HJ

vivalalove · 06-07-2011, 05:50 PM

Welcome to the 5th
Anti-Holly J Sinclair & Sav Bhandari Thread

The [ A n t i - s u p p o r t e r s ]

[1]Hermione Granger

[2]ShineSoBright23

[3]vivalalove

[4]Holland Fan Forever

[5]RickyandChucklover1

[6]Redlight-Electr0

[7]NoSeriously

[8]JayJ

[9]letthedrummerkick

[10]lavidalavida

[11]starsprite

[12]All_Star07

[13]Denmark

[14]TransAdam

[15].RainbowPiggies.<3

[16]hannahe5

[17]rebelsoul

[18]Bandbabe

[19]MTG11687

[20]DollyJfan4life

[21]austendarcy

[22]Queen J & The Dark Prince

[23]Kwinks

[24]varjax-golightly

[25]KatieCtalksalot

The [ S o u n d t r a c k ]

[ The Way I Loved You ] by Taylor Swift

He can't see the smile I'm f a k i n g
and my heart's not breaking because I'm not feeling a n y t h i n g a t a l l
You were wild and crazy just so frustrating
intoxicating, complicated
got away my soul m i s t a k e

[ Bored of your Love ] by Meg & Dia

I can picture your face on the other side completely o b l i v i o u s
do you really feel like this love is r e a l ? I wish I could join you

[ Decoy ] by Paramore

Close your eyes and m a k e b e l i e v e this is where you want to be
forgetting all the m e m o r i e s , try to forget love because love's f o r g o t t e n me

[ The Way I Loved You ] by Selena Gomez

It m i g h t be wonderful, it might be magical
It might be everything I've waited for, a miricle
But even if I fall in love a g a i n with someone new
It could n e v e r be the way I loved y o u

[ Coming to Terms ] by Carolina Liar

I'm u s i n g you
you're using me
it's never as e a s y we believe

[ B r o k e n ] by Cassie Steele

You take a d v a n t a g e of a simple h e a r t b r e a k
At least you had to l o v e to know how to a c h e

[ Thinking of You ] by Katy Perry

I guess that s e c o n d b e s t is all I will know
because when I'm with him I am thinking of y o u
what you would do if you were the one who was spending the night
I wish that I was looking into y o u r e y e s

How do I get better once I've had the b e s t?
You said there's tons of sifh in the water so the waters I will test
He kissed my lips I taste your mouth
He pulled me in I was d i s g u s t e d with myself

[ Lips of an Angel ] by Hinder

I guess we n e v e r really moved on
It's really g o o d to hear your voice saying my name
it sounds so s w e e t
Coming from the lips of an a n g e l hearing those words
it makes me w e a k

[ Break Your Little Heart ] by All Time Low

I'm wasted, wasting time
You talk for hours but you're w a s t i n g lines
A pretty face but the c h a s e aint worth the p r i z e

The [ R e a s o n s ]

1. Because it shows signs of an o b v i o u s rebound relationship

2. Because n o - o n e who has found out about them remotely c a r e s or has taken them s e r i o u s l y

3. Because Sav and Holly J weren't even f r i e n d s before they got together

4. Because Fiona still expects her to m a r r y Declan

5. Because they've kept it a s e c r e t

6. Because they've both b r o k e n the friendship code with Anya and Declan

7. Because Holly J m e d d l e d with Sav and Anya's and didn't care that it h u r t him

8. Because he was s u p p o r t i v e of her relationship with Declan

9. Because the strip tease was completely u n s e x y

10. Because Holly J and Declan haven't officially b r o k e n u p

11. Because they went a g a i n s t each other in the campaign

12. Because Declan is r e t u r n i n g and will show Holly J what she's m i s s i n g

13. Because Charlotte and Ray being good friends in real life makes their romance scenes a w k w a r d

14. Because they c o n t r i b u t e d to the school's new strict policies

15. Because not long ago he was calling A n y a the l o v e of his life.

16. Because his parent's w o n ' t approve of the culture difference

17. Because she's g i v i n g u p on her dreams just to be with him.

18. Because saying "We're having fun" does not suggest Holly J's c o m m i t t e d to the relationship.

18. Because the serenading was c h e e s y and s i c k e n i n g

19. Because going from Declan to Sav is like taking the f r e e f a l l

20. Because Sav has n o a m b i t i o n whilst Holly J has a lot

21. Because b a d singing and school s t r i p p i n g do not equal true love

22. Because n e i t h e r of them are using their hearts, only their b o d i e s

23. Because there shouldn't be an e x p i r y date if it means something to them.

24. Because Sav n e v e r liked Holly J being friends with Anya.

25. Because "Holly J Sinclair? You have h e a l t h i n s u r a n c e right?

26. Because Holly J crossed him o f f her list

27. Because Holly J told Declan first and n o t Sav about getting into Yale

28. Because anyone who is confident in their relationship isn't going to f r e a k - o u t when their girlfriend's ex shows up but Sav d i d

29. Because Holly J told Sav that she was having lunch with Declan and his feelings about that d i d n ' t m a t t e r

30. Because she seemed u n c o m f o r t a b l e when Sav hugged her

31. Because "You come first...right now."

32. Because "No pressure."

33. Even Jenna could tell they're not in love!

34. Because third Parties who have nothing to lose or gain should not have to play a big role in getting a couple back together

35. "Coming second doesn't feel so good." - Sav

36. Because you can't base a relationship on having fun

37. Because They Hadn't Talked In Forever-The boyfriends/girlfriends I know are either always together or they make an effort to spend time together, but that never happens with Holly J and Sav and Holly J is the one with the hectic schedule it isn't Sav.

38. Because sick or well, we would still have a lack of affection between Holly and Sav

39. The end scene at the hospital couldn't have come across as more forced and cheesy

Past Threads

#1: http://www.fanforum.com/f191/anti-ho...stry-62964064/
#2: http://www.fanforum.com/f191/anti-ho...love-62966711/
#3: http://www.fanforum.com/f191/idiots-...-sav-62975761/
#4: http://www.fanforum.com/f191/hedonis...tasy-62981418/

Future Threads

Because not so long ago Anya was the "love of his life"
Because he cares about her as long as there are no parents involved
Because Holly J doesn't smile when someone sings her crappy song
Because they're the second Pia.
Because it's always only "right now" for them
Because she tells him she slept with someone else and he feels the need to apologize
Because once they got together, his character's growth stopped.
Because she wants to go back being casual
Because why would you want to be with someone who lied to you about your ex being pregnant?
Because Jenna cared more about getting them back together than Holly J did.
Because their body language says it all. They're not in love
Because if Chantay didn't see it there really isn't much there.

DollyJfan4life · 06-07-2011, 06:48 PM

Tftnt!

**Holland Fan Forever** · 06-07-2011, 09:13 PM

Everyone go vote in the suvivor thread. It's Fiona vs Anya, vote for your least favorite. Anya gets my vote here because Fiona has been allowed to have character development and storylines even if it's been rushed and in part because of her Holly J got more screen time outside of this awkward, train wreck of a relationship.

varjak-golightly · 06-08-2011, 02:36 AM

TFTNT

**Holland Fan Forever** · 06-09-2011, 09:22 PM

I think that the real problem with this ship is that there is no progression or even any indication that anything that we are supposed to actually pay attention is going on if they aren't on-screen. Even if someone didn't like how the other ships handled the challenges and issues that they were given that they were at least given a real issue or challenge to deal with as couple but Holly J and Sav just weren't given anything to do. I also think that like them or not EClare shows that if the writers want to that they can write for an opposites attracts couple but that just didn't extend to Holly J and Sav where the whole storyline was always all about her all the time.

**Holland Fan Forever** · 06-20-2011, 05:19 PM

Here's to hoping we don't have to see a "reunion" between this train wreck of a ship during Season 11. Does anyone have the clip of Holly J crossing Sav off of her list? I think that would be a good thing to put in the OP, if possible.

vivalalove · 06-20-2011, 09:05 PM

Does anyone here know how to do caps? If we find someone we could have a whole banner of anti moments.

**Holland Fan Forever** · 06-23-2011, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivalalove (View Post)

Does anyone here know how to do caps? If we find someone we could have a whole banner of anti moments.

I don't but I would love to see a banner of anti-moments here and we could even do play game of survivor in this thread with those moments which should help get the thread moving as well.

**Holland Fan Forever** · 06-24-2011, 01:15 PM

Maybe we could do the ABCs or Anti-ABCs for this couple.
A is for Awkward, for example.

**Holland Fan Forever** · 07-04-2011, 01:45 PM

To everyone here who celebrates the 4th of July, Happy 4th of July to all Hedonists!

We've also got to add "Because Landon is Not A Fan Of The Holly J/Sav Thing" to the future thread titles list.

**Holland Fan Forever** · 08-27-2011, 07:30 PM

I am so happy that we haven't had to sit through more of this awkwardly written couple this season.

The writers and the powers that be never even gave a real reason as to why they should even want to be friends and it was always so clearly all about Holly J all the time when Sav was the one who really needed a storyline and something to do not Holly J. The truth is that they both needed their own storylines not one together. The writers and powers that be failed to give a reason to care about Sav's character and I figure that if he can't even get a basic scene of standing up to his parents after all this time that says a lot about how the writers view him as a character.

**Holland Fan Forever** · 02-13-2012, 10:15 PM

Happy Valentine's Day to all Hedonists!

I think that breaking up with Sav is the best thing that Holly J could've done for Sav and their break up really reminded me a lot of Sean and Ellie's break up because in both cases it was obvious that the writers were just done with both couples. I think that Sav was really treated badly especially given that he supposedly defeated Holly J to become student council president and then when we come back in Season 11 he and Holly J are co-presidents even though not doing much with student council ever affected Holly J. I don't think Holly J was ever really going to have to suffer for very long because Fiona would always be there for her but to me Sav was treated about as badly as Riley and Zane were.

ChinaTequilia · 04-15-2012, 02:48 AM

Can you add me?

I'm glad that Sav & Holly J didn't end up together. He was her rebound, and I never really understood why he fell so hard for her. Also, I can't believe that Anya was completely okay with her best friend dating her ex-boyfriend, so she loved and lost her virginity to. Sav could have had so much more character development if he hadn't been paired up with Holly J. He should have stood up to his parents, but not over some girl that he was only causally dating, who obviously didn't love him back. And they didn't even have any chemistry!

ihavealife2uknow · 04-15-2012, 08:46 AM

For me these two were less about chemistry and more something for these two characters to do since neither had much to do besides being school president in the first half of the season. I never bought that Holly J would want anything romantically to do with Sav after she seen how he handled the arrainged marriage situation with Anya. I think they were good as friends but nothing more.

vivalalove · 04-15-2012, 12:48 PM

Welcome China Tequilia! Added you.

It's always nice to see another Sav/HJ hater.

Although we no longer have to worry about them, this relationship had so many inconsistencies and shortcomings that I don't quite understand why they were so quickly embraced. As much as Landon was going to leave to do Terra Nova, I also still resent the fact that they had to ruin Declan's character in order to make them seem like a decent pairing.

I also disliked the fact that the whole Anya situation was glossed over. It didn't make any sense that she would be so comfortable with such a situation. Her first love and her supposed best friend suddenly hooking up their senior year?

This relationship was one sided from the beginning, and it did nothing to compliment either character.

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