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verify impending doom

First time posting!

Wow. What an episode. It really lived up to my expectations and left me intrigued. But one thing I found really interesting was that Owen recorded the party. Sure, it's not out of the usual with it being a high school party in the age of technology, but does anybody think that this might have some significance down the road?

1) For one, Mama Torres doesn't even know about the party. If the video gets out, there will be hell to pay.

2) Also, there was a lot of underage drinking at that party. Stuff like this often ends up on facebook, and (depending where you are and other circumstances) if the police find out, Mr. and Mrs. Torres could get in trouble. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Audra Torres part of the school board or at least a very active member of the PTA back in the Boiling Point? It could be interesting if it gets out that this happened at her house.

3) And seeing how the new hockey team is a local thing and it looks like the players are kinda important, being relocated to Toronto to play hockey and all, what would the rest of the city think if they found out that this is what their team was doing? They were all wearing their team jackets at the party, so they're identifiable.

What do you guys think?

JustMe2000

Well, Toronto's a city with millions of people, and probably numerous junior hockey teams, so the city as a whole probably wouldn't care much if at all about what this team is doing. The area in and around Degrassi, perhaps.

Welcome to the board! I'm looking forward to seeing more posts from you.

On to the episode......let's see...

-Drew in a pink shirt? Not a good look.

-I can't help but wonder how Dallas knows the Torres family, and more specifically how Mama T will respond to what apparently is coming down the road with him? I guess we'll find that out in good time.

-This party did have a lot of drinking, which is a good thing- if you're going to have a party on the show. That said, Drew seemed even more messed up than everyone else. Did he get drugged? Or he just drink way more than everyone else?

-I was a little surprised that Marisol didn't show up with Katie to the party, you know kind of a sisters in arms type thing.

-Speaking of that, the stuff was Clare/Alli and Clare/Alli/Jenna was full of win. Hopefully we see more and more of that as the season goes on. Oh and, even after multiple viewings, Jake did indeed steal the show.

-I loved the little scene with Maya practicing and noticing herself (and her lack of...development) in the mirror. The best quiet moment in the episode. Well done by both Oliva and Stefan.

-While I'm not too keen on seeing another band, the idea of Mo and Olivia being the focal points of that band just sounds awesome in that classic oddball combo way that some things do.

-Tristan's "I already am" (shopping) line made me laugh, and Zig's reaction to Tori's breast reduction surgery idea was hilarious. Oh and Tori's line about Zig's hair made me laugh as well.

-Was that Fiona that Marisol was talking to at the beginning of the episode?

In the old (pre 3 plots over a two-part episode) days, the Eli/Clare plot would have been resolved with tonight's episode. Something will be tacked on to it tomorrow, hopefully it will work, or at least not make this non-fan of the couple not want to fast forward through the scenes.

Drew/Katie, Drew/Bianca. Not interested in either at this point. Just give me the fallout from what happened at the party.

Very much looking forward to seeing what happens there and with Maya and her audition.

Glad to have the show back.

kaleidocat

Welcome verify impending doom!

That was basically my reaction. I'm a little skeptical of the drugging on a few points. One being is that it is going to be a way for him to excuse using Katie for sex to impress his peers. Two is how common is it for guys to be drugged? But then again maybe we are just used to the roofied and raped tales told. I suppose it is possible that his buddies wanted to loosen him up for his first time. Or it was a prank...

NocturnalCouchPotato

Wow, this was a pretty good episode. I'm not gonna lie, most of 11.5 was a blur to me. Aside from Hollaback Girl, this was the first episode where I wanted to see the second part.
- Dallas seems like a realistic character. He's not too likeable or a complete villain. He just looks out for himself. While I don't like him as a person, I can appreciate him as a character. It just really creeped me out how he commented on Maya's 'character development'. Maybe it's because he was walking with the other hockey guys in a weird manner or maybe it's because Demetrius is really taller than Olivia. I never noticed how young she was. But yeah, I just hope he doesn't become a Karma Houdini like Damian from S6 and S7.
- The freshman scenes were funny. I think Maya needs to just ditch her middle school clothes. I know it's more of the wardrobe department's issue rather than Maya's, but when I was a high school freshman (in 2009-2010), most girls just wore Hollister or American Eagle and just avoided any graphic t shirt. I hope she doesn't join Katie in getting an emo makeover.
- As a rabid anti-Eclare shipper, I have to say, those scenes were tolerable. I agree with JustMe2000. I don't know how they could make this plot stretched out any longer for now. I wish they'd take their relationship slowly this time but we all know that doesn't happen in TV land.
- I was reading a few Tumblr blogs and a few people said that Katie raped Drew. I don't know what I think of it right now, but so far this makes Love Lockdown look black and white.
- Wouldn't Katie see Drew and Bianca together and connect the dots? Heck, wouldn't she say 'is it Bianca?' in the classroom? I have no clue what's going on in her head. But Chloe looked really great tonight.
- I'm glad Drew decided to dump Katie even after getting a gift from her (Shout out to Craig!). I just wish he would've kept his word. Their bedroom scene made me upset. Katie is such a train-wreck and Drew is beyond the point of no return.
- Am I the only person who thought Becky's suggestion of donating the uniforms was a nice idea? I got second hand embarrassment when the others thought it was weird.
Overall, I liked how the characters and scenes were seamless and a lot of different groups interacted. Let's hope it stays like this for the rest of the show.

necklace

Am I the only person who thinks that when Drew said "I did it", he meant that he successfully broke up with Katie and that it's going to be turned around next episode? I know she'll be saying that they did sleep together but Katie's definitely not above lying about such thing. I have hard time believing that she would actually sleep with Drew when he was that drunk.

I'm not saying this is what happened but if that's the case it shouldn't be called an "excuse". Just think how people would react had Drew been a girl in this scenario.

Eva Diva

WOOHOO!! Summer of Degrassi is back!!
I'm so glad the show moved to a new timeslot because the 9 pm timeslot interfered with my work schedule.

The school might be concerned about all the underage drinking and their reputation again after the uniforms were no more.

I'm a hockey fan--an NHL fan really. I sometimes watch junior hockey from time to time but I have heard of stories of lots of today's NHLers used to party up during their young teenage days on the weekends (if there's no game). There's even a tumblr about it dedicated to drunken hockey players Some still do now lol.

The Torres are Dallas' billet/host family. Hockey players sometimes come from all over the province, the States or Europe. Drafts are held and teams pick the players when they're 14-15 years old. The teams and billet family co-ordinate with one another (a requirement to most leagues, criminal background check is provided too). Once hockey season starts, they move right away to their billet family. The Family provides room and board, player must pay for their own thing too (long-distance phone calls, clothes, etc.) Players stay with their host families until they get traded to another junior team or get drafted by the NHL

Forwood4Bamon

I agree with everything you said.

Inesal

The Clare/Eli romance needs to be careful. What was once a challenging, complex scenario could easily devolve into boredom. There is a bit too much combined navel gazing going on.

I never thought I would say that Maya and Tori and Tristan would make an episode passable. On one hand, I am bummed to see they have not got rid of the incredibly blank personality of Zig who is a waste of screen time. On the other hand, Zig is at least not a bully. That can't be said for the majority of this show's focus.

The problem with the episode is it's focus was on much of it's more repellent characters. We have Drew, a dull, uninvolving slab of wood, deciding between the inconsistently sketched Bianca and the vile Katie. The whole scenario only serves to make all 3 characters look more and more repugnant. Am I supposed to feel empathy for any of these 3. Throw in a touch of the loathsome bully Marisol, the despicable bully Owen, and a new character in Dallas that is the kind of bully who permanently damages the lives of young people and it is tough wadings. If the most despicable of all characters, Dave, would have played a bigger role it would have made the episode unwatchable.

Watching a group of bullies just is not fun. Maybe Bianca and Owen can get together and snicker about how they abused Adam (who, in the most unrealistic plot contrivance in Degrassi history, seems to have completely forgiven humiliation at the hands of both). Maybe Katie and Marisol can get together and laugh at the cruelty they unleashed on Imogen? And then Dallas can tell them how he hopes to get a kid to commit suicide through his cruelty?

I like Degrassi but I cannot recall a time when there were so many despicable characters getting way too much screen time. That is why Jake, Tori, Maya, Imogen and others are fresh air. It helps overcome the swill of scum that Degrassi spends way too much time focusing on.

shance

I found the Maya subplot refreshing. It reminds me of the days when not all Degrassi plots had something to do with romantic relationships, and more to do with growing up. I got flashbacks of S1 when Emma got her period. Not to mention... it reminded me of the second episode of the original Degrassi, with Melanie worrying about her chest.

kaleidocat

Let’s see if I can elaborate how I fear Drew being drugged could be used as an excuse (probably a poor choice of words). I’m not thinking this is a real world situation where someone is slipped something to take advantage of them. I’m thinking more along the lines of how Degrassi is adding in this extra OMG plot element to lessen the wrongs he has done to Katie and Bianca prior, excuse them, and make him the victim. I want consequences brought onto Drew the old school DTNG way for being in a love triangle – you end up alone.

Degrassi has created some interesting speculation and I am anxious to see where the aftermath of the party heads. See you all later!

mellifluouscloud

Ah, Degrassi is back. We open with the start of spring semester, as everyone is just getting off the buses, catching up in the parking lot, wondering aloud about all the new students, and then the entire school is called to attend an assembly. And then we end with a wild party, excessive drinking, and questions of what exactly happened in the bedroom and what -- if anything -- was in Drew's drink. It feels so... familiar.

Maybe that's because we saw these scenes before. Standing in the Dark was a stellar episode and a brilliant way to start season 7, so I understand why the writing staff would want to recreate it. But to me it seems lazy. I know Degrassi has a natural inclination to "cycle" through stories and plotlines again and again, but come on, season 7 was not that long ago. And this episode was not Standing in the Dark.



I'm not sure what they're trying to accomplish with Becky. Based on our first impression of her (above) and the character description, it seems that Degrassi's goal is to create a caricature, not a character. My understanding is that she's supposed to be an ultra-conservative close-minded Christian and therefore (I assume) pisses everyone off. She enters the Degrassi universe with a high-pitched squeal of a greeting and is such a ditz that she needs someone to show her to class. I am very wary of whether or not she'll be humanized or if she's just a device to cause drama. She seemed like a very caring person at the party, yet I was baffled by the reaction of Adam and the others when she wanted to -- GASP!!! -- donate the uniforms to charity. Oh my god, Becky, you are such a bitch, wanting to donate clothes to the less fortunate. Or at least Adam et al seem to think so. What exactly is the message here? I'm still assuming Becky will turn out to be a stereotypical crazy Christian, which is really frustrating, because Degrassi used to avoid stereotypes. Plus, they already did the "closeminded Christian redeems herself eventually" storyline with Darcy (is this episode meant to be an homage to Darcy's great moments?!) and probably should have gone this route with Clare, too, but it wasn't convenient to her love life, so that fell by the wayside. Nonetheless, I'm determined to like Becky because I feel like the show wants me to hate her. I refuse to believe that anyone is that one-dimensional.



I love Maya and I totally sympathize with having no boobs and looking young. This was a nice old-school Degrassi storyline that I (mostly) enjoyed. I do have to question the fact that she purchased these inserts -- really?! Whatever happened to good old-fashioned tissue paper? I also liked seeing Maya, Tori, Tristan, and Zig all hanging out together peacefully without any awkwardness or tension. It was a breath of fresh air.

On the other hand, I wish I could enjoy the Clare/Alli/Jenna scene but it seemed really out of left field and forced. Clare and Jenna have so many unresolved issues that I wish we'd see them sit and talk about it for once. That would be interesting to me. Instead it's always like... now they're friends, now they hate each other, now they're friends, now they hate each other, etc. with no explanation. Well, the "hate" phase is always self-evident but how they go back to being friends again is vague. I felt super awkward when Jake appeared in the doorway, but apparently Clare didn't. It's like they never dated. Like there is no tension whatsoever. What? Why is it that I feel weird and they don't?!

Anyway, getting back to the A plot and the question of what was in Drew's drink. It definitely seemed like he may have been slipped something extra. But I'm not sure what it means. I'm also not even convinced that he and Katie had sex, which I feel stupid even bringing up, but then I saw others here posting the same thing. He says "I did it!" but how do we know that they really did? And is that even what his buddies were expecting? Before he went upstairs, they were all encouraging Drew to break up with Katie, so why would sex be the expected outcome? This was really unclear to me, and I just hope they didn't have sex because I don't even want to deal with the possibility that Drew may have been drugged when this occurred and what that means for Katie.

JustMe2000

I'm aware of the host family concept, but in this case I still got the sense there was a greater connection between Dallas and the Torres brothers and that they have a long standing relationship.

Regarding whether Drew and Katie had sex, I'm not sure if they did. Promos and write-ups seem to suggest that they may have, but that whatever happened neither one seems to remember, especially Drew. I guess we'll find out, but yeah it's probably not the best idea to evoke memories of (imo) one the all time classic Degrassi episodes.

Oh and I agree that Becky's idea of donating the clothes was a good one (and the type of thing that I could see Clare suggesting if she wasn't off dealing with Eli).

MegaJ

Degrassi is back, yaaaaaaay. I had a bad time yesterday trying to view the episode, but I found a download and I'm set baby!

A-Plot. Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew. Drew. Drew. DREW. I want to like him, but dammit he does stupid things so much. He's the new Craig, without the tragic family situation. He should've listened to Adam's advice about sometimes it's better to rip the bandage off. And yes, I mean I do think he was trying to be a nice guy about it but, in that situation he should've just taken Katie slapping him or yelling at him like a man. A mess. I wonder if that party night will come back, he did seem like he may have drank a roofie'd drink (not surprising considering that crowd). I don't think it might, but this show has surprised me before about revisiting plotlines, see Jacinda. I wonder if Friday's ep summary has something to do with it.

I can understand Katie, now that I think about it. I thought she threw herself at Drew, but then again she just came from rehab and was wanting some sort of normalcy after rehab and losing her athletic dreams. Not sure why told her to keep them sleeping together a secret, I can't imagine Katie wanting to keep it.

B-Plot. I like EClare, COME AT ME BRO. I don't really have much to say except they were great in their scenes and I'm really liking that the two of them (and the writers) will keep them balanced this season and away from each other doing their own thing while being together.

C-Plot. I always liked the puberty storylines Degrassi has, it really pulls the show down to Earth a lot. Maya had a relatable problem for many girls, and thought she needed to be more "mature." All the side players in this episode were also great, the other niners especially Tori and Mo.

JustMe2000

-What class is Ms. Oh teaching now? What is this, three in six months? Okay....

-I liked the little follow up to Becky's donating the uniforms to the needy idea from the last episode (for those who missed, she made an announcement about it on the PA)

-Imogen's try out for Mo's band was oh so very Imogen, which depending on your point of view, can be a good thing or a bad thing.

-At the end, we saw Marisol/Katie and Drew/Bianca at what looked to be a mall. I guess it was probably the same place the 'niners were at in part 1. Either way, nice to see a different set.

-The idea of Drew taking calculus is all kinds of hilarious to me. But, I also love the idea that he tried to skate by in his last semester on bird courses. Oh and Adam's reaction to his mother slapping that down was hilarious.

-Tori failing 4th grade? The idea of her being a 9-year-old terror amuses me- and brings back memories of Angie giving Caitlin such a rough time.

-I'm glad we got to see Marisol's "the liar, the bitch and the ****ty wardrobe." I was waiting for that to show up ever since I saw it in that promo.

-I think these two episodes did a good job of establishing how Dallas could be the perfect team captain/alpha male, who will both take care of his boys and have those boys follow him no matter what. He's reminding me of Jay in the way he can say and do some awful things, but still have a charm about him. The scene with him and Adam giving Drew advice on how to break up was one of the best in the episode.

-Clare's new boss would have been more believable if he acted and dressed like a slob, then again

-Maya's "chicken cutlet" falling out during her audition was predictable, but still enjoyable and very relatable even to someone who never had to deal with being teenage girl. Mo's reaction wasn't too surprising, either, but I'm fine with that, as we know he's serious about music and it made sense that he would want Maya in his band. Oh and Maya's take down of Owen was also a fun moment. Well, maybe not for Owen.

-I'm still not sure what to think of the Drew plot in this episode. I guess I wanted to see more about what he did after her blacked out. Dallas made the comment about how it could be a rough day for him at school (in the sense, at least in my mind, that people would be all over him for his party antics). That didn't happen at all, and it quickly turned into another romantic triangle plot, which I guess it always was. I went into this thinking the best thing for all three was both couples biting the dust, allowing them all to move on, and nothing that happened in these episodes changed that opinion. I hope it still happens by the end of week. Oh and I'm guessing Dallas' "bump on the head" comment is a hint that it will turn out that Drew had a pretty nasty concussion.

The line count:

1201
Drew- 45
Katie- 24
Clare- 22
Dallas- 22
Maya- 20
Adam- 12
Bianca- 12
Eli- 11
Tori- 11
Tristan- 10
Jenna- 9
Alli- 8

1202
Drew- 45
Clare- 28
Maya- 25
Dallas- 20
Katie- 19
Eli- 16
Bianca- 15
Tori- 14
Mo- 10
Adam- 9
Asher- 9