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Episode 1235/1236 Discussion- Karma Police- 3/15 & 3/22 on Much Music & TeenNick
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1235 Fiona- 50 Dallas- 29 Imogen- 21 Alli- 18 Drew- 16 Zig- 13 Madame Jean-Aux- 12 Damon- 8 1236 Fiona- 49 Dallas- 24 Imogen- 18 Zig- 17 Alli- 13 Damon- 11 Drew- 10 Range Officer- 9 __________________
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TFNT! I cant wait for the Dallas and Fiona plot.
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And it starts!
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wow what an ep. I was so scared for fiona. I can not believe Dallas has a kid.
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Superb job of acting by Clark who both conveys loneliness (no family or roommates at such a young age), the horror of the being confronted with her mortality, and devastation. Fiona and Imogen may have the 2nd most natural romantic chemistry on the show. Only Adam and Becky are stronger. Which reminds me. Where the heck is Adam?
Dallas's scenes are okay but he seems to have become the latest jerk who turns out to have a good heart fantasy that Degrassi revels in when it comes to many of it's male characters. Enough Degrassi. Enough. In real life, most teens that are jerks turn out to be adults that are jerks. They don't all of a sudden have these transformation. Here's an idea. How about showing some complexity to begin with. Instead of introducing a character like Owen or now Dallas as a bigtime jerk - how about showing them as complex from the very beginning. So why does the show pulls this crap. Well it is simple. They are pandering to that group of the audience that gets off on bad boys who just need a woman to show what is inside. By playing to such simplistic notions, the show ends up with these A to Z arcs that seem inorganic. Joyette is still very good. |
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A Plot. Another revisiting of the "Fiona is lonely" thing. She's gotten better, but these things just can't go away overnight. It makes total sense that she would find solace in her twitter followers who do pay attention to her. Scary moment in the end there, and I'm glad the guy didn't hurt her. It was heavy-handed, but I do think the target audience does need to be aware of the dangers of giving out too much info on social networks. Nothing else to add except I liked Fiona's scenes with Dave and Fiona's wearing a rainbow bracelet!
B Plot. I liked it, not too much to say right now since it's set-up. TeenNick already gave it away earlier this year. Dallas is a very strong character with a strong actor, glad he had a good backstory. C Plot. Again, more set-up. My favorite scene was the beginning with Zig ripping Tori for crying. I had this reaction at my school when some poor basketball player died and everyone was crying and I kept it in but I was secretly like SMH. I suppose that's a normal reaction, especially with Zig's guilt. __________________
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I don't even care about anything that happened in this episode because I'm more excited about Zoo Be Zoo Be Zoo next week. Being a fan of both Degrassi and Mad Men finally paid off!
PS - Seriously I'm supposed to believe that Zig was always in French class with Maya, Tori, and Tristan? How come we NEVER saw him there before? |
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It is a new semester, say two teachers teach French (as I had 2-3 that taught Spanish at my HS), and he decided to switch teachers for the new semester.
Or maybe he was there before and I just don't remember either. And for the poster that referenced mad men. I've never watched it so I have no idea, what are they referencing there? Can you explain it? __________________
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However change takes hard work and it really annoys me that we didn't see ANY of Dallas' therapy sessions, him working on his anger issues and guilt about Cam. This guy was about to jump off a roof 2 weeks ago and now he's all good!? We sat through a full hour of Eli doing E, Clare nagging, Katie being boring and Conner/Jenna space dates but no word on Dallas' progress? Not even a drop-in? It's sad because Joyette IS good and now Dallas' recovery is being glossed over for his relationship with Alli or whatever. The writers are terrible at "redemption" plots. So much more could've been done here... Zig - At least Zig is acting out along side Jay 2.0 (not nearly as cool as Jay 1.0). It seemed like that plot quickly turned away from Zig's guilt and towards him impressing the French teacher. I hope Zig fully commits to Zou Bisou in part 2! Leg pop and everything. Fiona - Sorry. I don't even care anymore. Love the actress but it's time Fiona gtfo. This was just a set-up so not much else to say other than it was much better the RoL. Man, RoL was baaaaaaad. |
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I liked the Zig plot. Seems like he's trading aggressive behavior for relying on the French teacher in order to cope with what he said to Cam. I think it'd be neat if it turns out to be a plot about Zig becoming obsessed with relying on the teacher, maybe something like what happened with Darcy and Snake? Fiona's was eh. The scene where she's attacked was good, though. She was portrayed rather stupidly though; she shares tons of information to a bunch of strangers, including a tweet by tweet location update, and apparently stays at her condo after some guy she knows nothing about breaks in and steals stuff. She doesn't even know if the door was locked or how he got in, the guy could be a stalker and just waltz back in during the middle of the night. Last edited by Sibs; 03-17-2013 at 06:33 PM |
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The last thing I want is for Fiona to be off the show. I know it is coming (senior year) but there are so few queer characters on television and the loss of Fiona/Imogen will make a significant impact on that representation. The loss of Adam (after his senior year) will also have a big impact. Then it is down to just Tristan. Shamefully, the show got 5 9ers and then has spent most of it on the detestable (and horribly acted and written) Zig and the incredibly dull Maya. They killed off the most intriguing of the 9ers Cam for the sake of apparently gaining sympathy for bad boy Dallas and sociopath Zig* (don't forget to give Eli more screentime ), Tori seems to be there solely to react off of Zig or Maya, and the show has not made anywhere near enough use of Tristan.
The show's best aspect has been it's handling of queer storylines. I do wish we would see more of Fiona and Imogen's romance instead of a focus on a not to tweet too much information PSA. |
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The niners all have great potential. Maya is a simple character, who will be affected greatly by Cam' suicide eventually. She doesn't set the world on fire, but I wouldn't classify her as boring. Tori hasn't been given much to sink her teeth into, but she has natural charisma. Tristan is awesome. Cam is a sophomore by the way. Eh, I feel like Zig will be a Jenna where he improves his acting as time goes on. Besides, they could always add other homosexual characters for Season 13. |
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The shame about the loss of Fiona after this season is the character is one of the stronger written and acted characters. She is vital as a break from the nonstop teen boy worship the show revels in. And her journey from rich brat to a person recognizing belief in oneself has been one of the finest in the show. That along with Fiona and Imogen being one of the few couples on the show with chemistry means the loss will be sad particularly since Degrassi has not shown any ability to fill in her character.
The show also seems to not be showing any Adam this year and of course Tristan is being kicked far to the back. So tonight's A story works at a far higher level than the others. The B and C stories are stinkers that continue pushing the greatest of Degrassi's flaws - the introduction of a thoughtless, repugnant but handsome male teen who is becomes a misunderstood boy with a sensitive heart. Bad storytelling, horrible dialogue and an atrocious performance by Hoyos sink the Zig story. But to be fair, a character and a storyline like that are designed to get awwww's and not much else. Zig's speech for forgiveness never felt organic and was more the height of writer's room pandering. The only good point in the Dallas storyline is that in that case the actor has some acting ability. My hope is that another actor replaces Hoyos or the character leaves the show. Right now, I feel insulted every time he is on screen. He is another US Skins Tony. Combine him with the utterly bland Maya and it is hard to watch. Lose them and keep Tristan and Tori. Last edited by Inesal; 03-22-2013 at 07:07 PM |
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