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Angsty Artists#57 (C/A): Because he really loves her, and wouldn't want to change her
Welcome to the 57th Craig Manning and Ashley Kerwin Appreciation Thread Made by Ria Made by Kelly By kaleidocat By Keturah Popgurls.com interview with Jake Epstein: Which girl would you pick? Can you tell me? Jake: Personally? Ashley. I mean, honestly, I never understood the Manny/Craig relationship. I just think the two characters wouldn't go well together in real life. <SELECT NAME="Members" SIZE="10" MULTIPLE > <OPTION SELECTED> 1. konstantine <OPTION> 2. LidelKewte <OPTION> 3. kaleidocat <OPTION> 4. Mayberry <OPTION> 5. T'Lynn <OPTION> 6. idontwannabe73 <OPTION> 7. Payton Tyler <OPTION> 8. LilLala08 <OPTION> 9. Candice L. <OPTION> 10. XxDreamer <OPTION> 11. miss blue sky <OPTION> 12. EmmyMcBitchy <OPTION> 13. SydneySummers <OPTION> 14. sugarfree <OPTION> 15. punkmusicc <OPTION> 16. Terpsichore <OPTION> 17. Bkrstar <OPTION> 18. StaringDownTheSun <OPTION> 19. EvaBlue <OPTION> 20. amys12 <OPTION> 21. *Lizzie* <OPTION> 22. PinkPastry <OPTION> 23. 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Crash Websites Destined to CrAsh Crash Fan Fiction I Saw Her Standing There - Nikki's Fic This Is It , The Mixed Tape Learning to Breathe, The Best Laid Plans-Diana's fics Empty Apartment -Lissa's fic More Things Change -Nicole's fic Various Others: Rings, Rainy Days, and Valentines The Crash Bad Decisions Craig's Pain By Jenn <SELECT NAME="Members" SIZE="10" MULTIPLE > <OPTION SELECTED> Guitars <OPTION> Shakespeare <OPTION> Post-Emo music <OPTION> The luau dance <OPTION> The Ramones <OPTION> Roses and flower petals <OPTION> Snowfights <OPTION> Hotel rooms <OPTION> Death Cab For Cutie <OPTION> Neutral Milk Hotel <OPTION> Weddings <OPTION> Beds <OPTION> Bars <OPTION> Textbooks <OPTION> Rings <OPTION> the Record Store <OPTION> Fries & gravy <OPTION> Acoustic <OPTION> Slow dancing <OPTION> Love songs <OPTION> Surprise parties <OPTION> Lyrics <OPTION> Vintage clothing <OPTION> The holidays <OPTION> Keyboards <OPTION> Recording Studios <OPTION> Second chances <OPTION> Yearbooks <OPTION> G.M. Food Protests <OPTION> Biology class <OPTION> Ambulances (Eye of the Tiger) <OPTION> Jimmy Hendrix <OPTION> Math class (Ghost in the Machine) <OPTION> Car Washes <OPTION> D-Mailing <OPTION>Goulash <OPTION> Annoying friends and horny aunts <OPTION> Birthday cake <OPTION> Pastry chef's <OPTION> Mary Poppins <OPTION> Prom <OPTION> Kevin Smith <OPTION> Duets <OPTION> Top-Lip kisses <OPTION> Silent Bob <OPTION> England <OPTION> Cheese (the Heather Sinclair line Ash made) <OPTION> Cyndu Lauper's hair <OPTION> Couches <OPTION> Cabs <OPTION> Books <OPTION> Gyms <OPTION> Photographs <OPTION> Hot Chocolate <OPTION> London Calling <OPTION> Emotional Roller Coasters </SELECT> <SELECT NAME="Members" SIZE="10" MULTIPLE > <OPTION SELECTED> Take My Breath Away <OPTION> Dressed in Black <OPTION> Tears Are Not Enough <OPTION> Father Figure <OPTION> Pride <OPTION> Should I Stay or Should I Go? <OPTION> Against All Odds <OPTION> Holiday <OPTION> Rock and Roll High School <OPTION> Ghost in the Machine <OPTION> Anywhere I Lay My Head <OPTION> Neutron Dance <OPTION> Voices Carry <OPTION> Secret part 1 <OPTION> Eye of the Tiger <OPTION> West End Girls <OPTION> Going Down the Road part 1 <OPTION> High Fidelity part 2 </SELECT> Past Thread Titles 1. He'd love her for who she is 2. A Ramones shirt is way better than that pink sweater... thing 3. Because "Ashley and I, We're Back!" 4. Because Everything--It was all about Ashley 5. "So, you're here with me?" "Absolutely." 6. Because they only needed one bed 7. This Holiday is all about them... and goulash. 8. Because they're in tune with each other 9. Because they have never been this happy 10. Because she's not leaving. 11. Because he wants to get drunk off their love 12. Because she may have broken up the Squatch, but he repaired their love. 13. Because her heart's in Toronto 14. Because she'll be waiting for an email 15. Because we still want an angsty airport scene 16. Because she's his leading lady 17. Because leaving for England was the hardest thing she had to do 18. Because Space Isn't Always A Bad Thing. 19. Because Flower Petals Is Beyond Sweet 20. Because in 20 years it'll still be Ashley. 21. Because he'll smother her in sweat. 22. Because if it's love, make it hurt 23. Because he'll always be "her" Craig. 24. Because they have more than the music. 25. Because Jake prefers Crash and so do we 26. Because it's all about the pants on the lamp 27. Because she's his love buzz. 28: Because that picture was obviously photoshopped 29: Because their reunion was worth the work they put in 30: Because in thirty years, they'll still think of one another 31: Because no other couple cuddles so cute on a couch 32: Because he's still waiting on the other side of nothing 33: Because out of sight does not always mean out of mind 34: Because we're saving up for Ashley's ticket to Toronto 35: Because he'd stand outside her window with a stereo. 36: Because she's the one that got the "I love you" 37. Because CRASH won best picture at the oscars 38. Because we still have faith in our power couple 39. Because she always knew he was destined for greatness 40. Because in 40 yrs they will finally have that apartment in Vancouver 41. Because us CrAshaholics really need a fix 42. Because they really are like magnets 43.Because we're dreaming of CrAsh babies 44.Because this rollercoaster still has some twists and turns. 45.Because we miss their smiley kisses 46. Because Joey knew it was love 47. Because with both of them back, anything can happen 48. Because she missed him while she was looking for herself. 49. Because we're CrAshaholics and we refuse to go to rehab. 50. Because theres now fifty threads of CrAsh love. 51. Because they can withstand years of obstacles. 52. Because they're bound to CrAsh again! 53. Because they cant resist each other for an entire season. 54. Because they're so, so not over 55. Because now we have a site to spread the Crash love 56. Because good things BETTER come to those who wait! Now, drum roll please, here is the list of the Top 50 Crash Moments as picked by the Angsty Artists! 50. Fist bump (TANE) 49. CrAsh IM-ing each other in VC 48. Ashley slapping Craig (Holiday) 47. Craig thinks Ashley decorated his locker/Ashley is speechless at the sight of Craig (GITM) 46. Craig and Ashley fighting in the MI lab (RRHS) 45. Craig taking Ashley's picture (DIB) 44. "Testing 1 2 is there a Craig Manning in the house?" (AILMH) 43. Craig and Ashley's "variety hour"/photo session (ND) 42. Tree-trimming (Holiday) 41. Ash sitting on his lap "I love your curls" (FF) 40. Ashley sticking up to her mom (VC) 39. Their goodbye kiss (GDTR) 38. Makeup scene (SISOSIG) 37. Craig checking Ashley out by the lockers (TMBA) 36. Craig talking to Joey about the girls leaving (GDTR) 35. Guitar shopping (GITM) 34. Ash saying the lyrics are just right (RRHS) 33. Kiss and make up (Secret) 32. The stare in HF 31. Craig telling Sally he loves Ash and won't hurt her again.(VC) 30. Craig and Ashley exchange looks during the final (TANE) 29. "How much do you love me now?!" (WEG) 28. Craig gives her a journal (GDTR) 27. The makeout on the couch (Pride) 26. Their Taming of the Shrew interpretation (DIB) 25. Craig defending Ashley against his dad (TANE) 24. Ashley telling Craig they are going to get him help (VC) 23. "He'd love her for who she is" (DIB) 22. "Until you mean it" (RRHS) 21. Craig asking Ash to the dance (TANE) 20. Craig threatens to "smother her in sweat" (WEG) 19. Snowball fight!! (Holiday) 18. "So you finally asked that Ashley girl out?" (TMBA) 17. Their WEG performance 16. Kissing on the stairs in front of the school(VC) 15. Craig singing "shine" to Ashley in the gym. (SISOSIG) 14. Crying in the phonebooth (VC) 13. Makeout scene (SISOSIG) 12. The hotel room scene: after "pants on the lamp"/"But I'm your Craig" 11. "Craig and I are back together, and that's it" (VC) 10. Craig sings to her in RRHS 9. Dancing at the end of the Luau (TANE) 8. Ashley mouthing "I Love You" to Craig at her dad's wedding (VC) 7. Craig telling Spinner/Marco it's all about Ashley (ND) 6. Dance in the club (VC) 5. The kiss in the hallway (ND) 4. Ash's acceptance of Craig's proposal (VC) 3. The kiss after Craig runs out of the studio (ND) 2. Hospital room scene (VC) And the number one Crash moment?... 1. The hotel room: surprise/rose petals/their first time (VC) Naturally! Ash's Last Journal Entry Have you ever done that thing with your eyes where you focus on something with like a regular pattern, like checkered curtains or something really close up and then your eyes go blurry for a second, but then when everything comes back into focus it's like a strange, vivid 3-D effect and you can't tell how close up or far away the thing you're staring at is, like even though you know it's across the room you feel like you can touch it? That's as close as I can come to describing the last year or so with Craig. Especially since he began to have bipolar episodes. I know he's there, but no matter how far I reach, I just can't touch him. Even when he's on his medication and we're having fun, writing songs and playing music together, he's just a little bit out of reach. Of course he can't help it. He's not trying to hold back from me. It's me. On some level I just can't let myself put him into focus. I'm always worrying about him, waiting for the next bipolar episode, watching for signs. I can't trust my own judgment around him -- when he's happy is it because he's off his meds, having a manic period, or when he's upset is that because he's off his meds, or they're not working, and he's depressed? I can't tell -- and I know how much it hurts him to have me constantly questioning his moods...and it's too much for me to handle too. So I just have to go away. It feels horrible, like I'm abandoning someone who needs me. But I need to deal with my own things, and Craig has Joey and Caitlin there for him -- not his biological parents but an amazingly supportive substitute. It was hell telling Craig I didn't want him to come with me to England, even just for the summer. I guess he figured out what that really means. But it was something I had to do. I'm sorry...bye. Craig's Last Journal Entry Back to square one for both me and my tiny stepdad Joey. Weird timing -- both of our leading ladies (and onetime fiances) bail on us for faraway places (Ashley to England, Caitlin to LA) within a day or two of each other. Now it's just me, Joey and my sister. Living in a house technically owned by his oldest flame Caitlin. Don't ask me how that's going to work out...too much to thin about...man I've never seen a 30-whatever year-old guy bawl his eyes out like Joey did when Caitlin left. Funny, I was shocked, but I never really so much felt like crying when Ashley left. Must be because I'm a real man or something...yeah right. Instead I stopped taking my meds and lost my mind on the streets where some scammer stole my guitar. Real bright. Surprisingly (not) going off my meds didn't make anything better. (such an idiot sometimes -- maybe on some level I understand Ash...which is the problem of course, since she's the only person I have the slightest understanding of...full circle again...) So here we are -- Joey with no fiance, me with no Ash and no axe. And Kevin Smith waiting to hear some amazing song I'm supposed to finish for his movie. Terrifying much? Hope I can get Jimmy to lend me his guitar...as long as I don't tell him I talked to Spinner who did his best to save my hinie...maybe he deserves another chance? not so sure... It's going to be a quiet summer. Back to helping out at the car lot for me...a single used car salesman. Looking at Joey, maybe it's my fate. Oh man... Banner by Jenn Beautiful timeline by Ria Memorable Quotes Ashley: Craig This is kind of perfect. Ashley: That should be my new look. Craig: Ay, don't make me take this book away. Ashley: *Kisses him on the cheek* Kidding. Craig: I love you. Ashley: Than you so much for say that, it's perfect. I love you too. Craig: Last time we dated it was disaster this time it's a nuclear. Ashley: We're not over. Craig: So you're here with me? Ashley; Absolutely. Craig: Um.... Everything, it was all about Ashley... It wasn't about a single, or making it big.... Just Ashley. Ashley; So do you think we can? Craig: Yea.... I do. Ashley: Me too. Craig: Because if he really loved Kate he wouldn't want to change her. He'd love her for who she is. Ashley: How are you doing Craig? Craig: Better. Craig: How's my favourite little pastry chef? ----------- Joey/Caitlin and Craig/Ashley Parallels: by Mayberry After the Jaitlin and Crash break-ups, the couples gave each other the icy shoulder. Joey termed Caitlin "ice maiden" but obviously still had a thing for her. Likewise, the blow-ups in RRHS show Craig and Ashley on shaky terms, but in later episodes, Craig still obviously cares for her. The two couples later reunited. If anyone's seen the old Degrassi, Caitlin was a bit moody like Ashley. Part of the reason she and Joey clicked was because he brought out the fun side in her. Craig really brings out the fun side of Ashley, which makes them a good match. Caitlin also didn't always treat Joey that well; sometimes she put what she wanted before her relationship with him. Joey had to work hard in that relationship as Caitlin got more distant. But they reunited. Similarly, Ash is interested in pursuing her interest in music while in England, and if Craig loves her, which he's said several times (in song and not in song), they will get back together. ----------- CrAsh animations by Mary Why We Love Crash There are many reasons we love Crashley, but mostly it's because they will always be there for eachother. We've seen that in past episodes, how Craig helped Ashley realize she shouldn't change for someone else, and how Ashley helped Craig through his fathers death, and his bipolarity. And the summer will make them stronger and make them realize how much they do in fact love and need eachother. Also for the fact that after Craig, cheated on her last year, she was willing to give him another chance. That say's a lot. Degrassi Crash Shippers Joey- Always knew Craig liked Ashley. Even when Craig took Manny out in TMBA, Joey asked if he had finally asked out Ashley. He knows it's love. Caitlin- Because she saw that his heart was breaking Because she was the one that suggested he go to London. Because she sees her relationship with Joey in them Jimmy- Told Craig that he knew Ashley and him would soon get back together. Marco- Because he encouraged Craig to tell Ash how he felt in SISOSIG. Because he helped Craig buy a suit, despite disliking Ash being in the band. Spinner- Because he apologized to Craig, and said Ash wasn't so bad after all. Paige- Because she talked to Ash after the party, which led to Ash apologizing to Craig. Ellie- Because she's Ash's supportive best friend who wouldn't double cross her. Because she knew ash cared about him. Emma- She even bitched Manny out for going after Craig when he was with Ashley. Banner by Jenn __________________
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Great job Nikki!!! I love how the title calls back to the very first one..."he'd love her for who she is"!! Perfect!
Let's hope Ash remembers all this soon!!! __________________
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I just love this title
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Good title. I love how he finds her attractive during all her phases. Ellie and Manny both looked pretty in WPA, but you wouldn't find Ashley doing that. She seems so comfortable with herself around him. She'll say whatever she wants and dress how she wants and he'll be chasing after her.
I don't know what I'm going to think of Season 6 Ashley. I understood all her transitions up to this point. __________________
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Exactly, Nicole! I'm just totally baffled now!. (< so much so i don't know whether to use an exclamation point or a period apparently! ) If she had stayed the way she was in HF, it would make more sense. But to me the more makeup and hair just changed it completely. But, maybe some of you are right, maybe it's just for "a date". But, even then, Ashley doesn't get dressed up! Look at her hair in her fathers wedding...I always thought her hair could've been more done up, but it still looked pretty.
That's why I just hope that the writer's use this all as a message...the same one we got in DIB, but I'm not so sure that's what they'll do. But it's what they should do! __________________
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Agreed. All of her transitions made sense to me, and Craig just went along with them, never questioning them. The pictures may be misleading, but not liking this new Ashley at all. Sigh. I remember in one other pic, Ellie's also showing off her shoulders, something I never thought she'd do, but I don't know.
Yeah, I don't think Craig would stare at the other two girls if Ash was in the same vicinity. ETA: But doesn't she have the same hair/style when they're kissing on the bench in the school? Hopefully, it's different later on. __________________
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Oh yeah, she does Nikki!! I think it's a little more toned down though...but yeah, you're right. gah! I guess one of the things that bugs me is that it's gonna look like she got a perm! lol Cause like I said, as far as the character goes, from what we know she has straight hair.
I almost feel psychic though! Because on here, and on DB, we had been talking about DIB...and specifically on DB, we were talking about "oh, wouldn't it be cute if Craig said that or something like it again". And now, it's so abundantly clear that he can/should!!! Okay, maybe not abundantly, but all signs are pointing that way! Meh, i dunno! __________________
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Awww remember Craig's face when he saw her walking up to him in the woods during DIB. He said "And you are...?" I SO see him having that same exact reaction if our speculation about Ash is true!
Craig hasn't said anything bad about Ash when his head was clear. He insulted her in GDTR, TANE, and RRHS out of anger but every single one of those times he felt bad about after he calmed down. But in VC when he was saying all those nice things about her he still felt that way when he was sane. Great title. __________________
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one a funnier note, this picture is hilarious!: and this one is just the definition of love: __________________
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Oooookkkkkay, is FF going to let me post now? Darn, I had this whole synopsis of an episode devoted to erectile dysfunction planned out. There was Jimmy and his problems, JT's insecurities, and our own Craig because most psych meds have some unwanted side effects. Oh, just to let you know, I started planning all this out because I was wondering why Jazel never had the Jimmy doesn't feel pretty enough problem. Did they just go cold?
Anyway, I have a feeling that with Jimash, it will be something along the lines of DIB. I bet that Jimmy isn't upfront about his problems and Ashley interprets it as she's not attractive enough, something is wrong with her, and tries to please him. __________________
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A new thread already! And I love the title, it really fits.
I think I'm going to wait and see about Ash until I see the premiere cause looks can be deciving so I'm just going to have to wait it out. Quote:
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Something always pulls them apart, and I think it would be interesting to see Jimmy be the one to back out of it. Ashley was the one that kept wanting to bail in seasons 1/2.
Ha, the CD is about to hit Craig's face in that one pic. Must face killer CDs for love. __________________
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I really think it will be Jimmy backing out. Ashley is going to stick around and try to make him happy, make him smile again. :gag:
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Wow! New thread already? Ya'll are fast!!! And caps!!! Aww! So cute!! It's like my lucky day!!
ETA: I am not looking forward to JimAsh sneak speaks... At all... __________________
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I put some caps from the snowfight in my photobucket. I used my vhs copy and the tracking showed up at the bottom...ended up cropping it out. But at least it's bigger?
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